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RIAA Targets 21 Sites For Shutdown
New submitter souperfly writes "The Inquirer has a list of 21 sites that the RIAA is looking to get shut down by ISPs this week. The list includes sites filestube, Bomb-Mp3, Mp3skull, Bitsnoop, Extratorrent, Torrenthound, Torrentreactor and Monova, and at least one ISP — Virgin Media in the UK — has confirmed the number of targeted sites. BT confirmed it will block the site, but didn't say when. Before, it was thought that only six sites were lined up for a chop."
Please, find a violation on RIAA.org and get them shut down. I'm begging you.
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I didn't know about half of those before.
And all these sites will have due process rights and a day in court before any of thier sites or livelyhoods are ruined... Oh wait a minute....
And, ah, yes, iTunes, AmazonMP3 are just terrible market failures that prove no one still pays for music.
Good thing they don't know about t******z.eu
That's been the best one for years.
I'm glad the whip and buggy industries were not as organized as today's IP industries.
Also, I find it insulting that Mr. Turkewitz considers shared music illegitimate by default. What music I have released, and most of my friends have released, was free and distribution was encouraged. In fact, my first release was on ocremix.org, where all the music is free and torrents of their content are an encouraged distribution method. I'm sure glad this RIAA shill has set us straight and made it clear how illegitimate our free community-minded distribution of our works is. Sure wouldn't want to encourage that kind of illegitimate "online music marketplace."
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I thought for a moment this was going to be more interesting. "But you can't shut down our ISP, how will we connect to the internet?" "We don't care. Virgin Media has been used for copyright infringement and must be eliminated from the face of the earth. Our business model requires it, and we all know that the well-being of the music industry overrides all other concerns."
It would be fitting for Neil Turkewitz and people like him to find themselves in a Saw type device which is recorded and shared about via the very locations they wish to get shutdown.
You do not have the right to dictate changes to a society so that it fits your business model better.
So, how about the bills before Congress authorizing more H1B's? American companies should be able to hire the best talent to compete in the global economy, right?
Oh sorry... it's only someone else's business model that needs to adapt to the changing times. When it's our personal business model that's at stake, then it's, like, personal.
Indeed. I, too, make music and release it for free, encouraging distribution. I have to put big disclaimers on my site saying that yes this is legal and no I am not affiliated with any RIAA record labels.
(Posting anonymously so as not to appear as a self-promotion.)
I ask myself why would anyone support this industry with manufactured superstars, wealthy clowns that shudder and flop to braindead pulsing all the while ancient disc media is shifted around the world as if some shadowy currency
the day music died was long ago but from it arose a gigantic undead corpse in the 60s, going through the motions of art while fuelling on greed until only the hunger for money was left
this beast was slow to understand the impact of a new communications medium, its reptilian brain finally sensing threat began its strangling trying to lock our culture in a box and charge admission, building the weapons of silence for the defence of a dusty ledger
furthermore I think I may have taken NyQuil instead of DayQuil and shouldn't be modifying this database script... UG
Fuck off and die in a fire. You do not have the right to dictate changes to a society so that it fits your business model better.
Easy there cowboy, no need to get angry. None of the sites they I'd ever heard of before today, and I pirate the everloving fuck out of anything stamped as owned by the British Emp--er, RIAA. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go dump some more of their junk in the river while dressed like one of the village people...
As long as they maintain this level of incompetence, piracy will live on forever.
#fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
For a second there, I thought he was describing RIAA.
"To those who are overly cautious, everything is impossible. "
As a huge fan of ocremix and a man who couldn't carry a tune in a bucket, I'd like to thank you and people like you for remembering what it's like to be an artist.
"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right" - Salvor Hardin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RIAA_member_labels
I no longer do.
Sharing cassette tapes in my day was how we learned of new music.
Notice the sansui g 8000-35000 are in storage not the living room.
We shared listening experience Who cares the crap mp3 on someones ipod no one.
They stole from Canadian artists and are suing people who pirate albums from Canadian artists, against the will of said artists.
oh, I'm no artist. I was a post-surgical kid on Vicodin with a demo version of Fruity Loops on Win98. But I have since taken up guitar, partially inspired by that experience.
Music is not an industry. Music is practically a food group.
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Good on you! Keep up the good work.
And I thought I checked anon as well. I bet I anon-posted on the wrong response tab.
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H1Bs are an underclass. That's the real problem with H1Bs.
If someone is important enough and their skills important enough that you want to drag them half way across the planet then treat them like a real person and give them a green card or even instant citizenship.
No republic should tolerate the creation of an underclass. It's a threat to the liberties of everyone. It's also ultimately bad for business since the bottom line is entangled with individual liberty.
Also, the idea that corporations can poach talent from across the planet is also unequal. If they can do that then we should likewise be able to do the same (work where the cost of living is cheap).
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Remember when it was England who used to tell Americans what to do?
Careful with names containing L slashdot.org/~AiphaWolf_HK slashdot.org/~AlphaWoif_HK slashdot.org/~AiphaWoif_HK
These have been high-quality torrent sites. I'd be outraged to see them go.
One less reason to like 'murika >:(
Please please please please because it makes my eyes bleed:
"Get shut down" --- verb.
"A shutdown" --- noun.
Here's a glimpse into that alternate future.
http://whyswords.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/horsecar.jpg
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Learn English.
And I target the RIAA with my asshole
That would mean anything if I, or the people being discussed, had anything to do with Congress or H1Bs.
For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
Vaguely. I seem to remember lots of violence being the result, incidentally.
For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
Yeah, that was nice, don't tell us what all is affected.
(MP3Skull will be no big loss, never saw a downloadable file ever.)
And I'm betting if KAT was on the list we'd hear about it.
Laughter is the Spackle of the Soul.
Music is not an industry
I think this deserves repeating.
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I like it, so gangsta.
Doesn't even have to be free music. If I own a CD and I lend it to a friend, or share it with a friend when they come to visit, or I make a copy for my phone or computer, that's perfectly legitimate.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
The RIAA is actually the music industries final form. The only way for them to remain relevant is to become a law firm that litigates non stop.
Well, kinda. Music sales are way down, even including MP3s. What is booming is streaming. Most music is shit, or at least not worth 50p to own, so people just stream it instead of owning it. Streaming doesn't make as much money as sales.
The other worrying thing is that apparently streaming and MP3 are good enough quality for most people. The music industry was rather hoping that there would be a market for higher quality than CD, in the form of SACD an DVD-Audio. It's their own fault really, modern music (even re-releases of old stuff) is so heavily compressed and distorted that there really isn't any point trying for higher quality recordings.
Protip record labels, if you want to sell more discs. The last two I bought were re-issues of ones I already owned but properly mastered. The only people still buying your warez care about sound quality. Everyone else listens for free on YouTube or the radio.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
I swear they were the ones who originally told me about last few sites I've used on the rare occasions I download music or a movie. Especially when it comes to ISP level filtering, this is basically an advert.
Then let me internationalize Xicor's comment: I would hazard a guess and say that it would be beneficial to the global public if the IFPI and MPA would go f themselves.
Hello, music as a concept belongs to the RIAA. Didn't you get the memo:
So what happens once video game publishers, who own copyright in the compositions underlying all of OCR, start cease-and-desisting OCR?
Pretty sure the 'dressed like one of the village people' part was redundant. I imagine you always dress that way.
So if I were to write, record, and release an album outside the RIAA system, how should I defend myself from plagiarism accusations brought by the music publishers that share a parent company with the RIAA labels? For example, what should George Harrison have done differently when writing "My Sweet Lord"?
Nice one Captain Shill.
Less obvious next time please.
Lol: captcha: paranoia
Also, the idea that corporations can poach talent from across the planet is also unequal. If they can do that then we should likewise be able to do the same (work where the cost of living is cheap).
Isn't that what work visas or outright immigration are for?
Aside from that, one country letting businesses import underpaid labor (via H1B or unreported illegal immigration)to keep wages artificially low shouldn't force all other countries outside that arrangement to do the same. After watching the damage that approach has caused California over the last few decades, I wouldn't wish it on another country's citizens unless they were truly vile individuals.
FWIW, the above is due to anger at the socioeconomic situation and associated problems (e.g. rise in crime). My schools, friends & extended family already had a high degree of racial diversity (including plenty of 1st-to-3rd gen immigrants), so it's not an "omg non-white people" issue.
Now mostly at Usenet:comp.misc & SoylentNews.org (it's made of people!)
Didn't Apple (mostly) kill music DRM by proving that people will buy digital music if it isn't a major pain in the ass to purchase, store, recover, or access? Hasn't the rise of streaming services like Pandora, Rdio and Spotify places the final nails in RIAA's coffin?
Isn't the lack of live, streaming NFL and NBA games cable and satellite's last hope for DRM laced video? More and more people prefer NOT to sit with a bunch of self absorbed phone addicts in a dark theater to watch a crappy movie.
Only the dead have seen the end of War. - Plato
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I don't pirate online, but that's not to say my previous collection is from umm...dubious origins. In any event, I do stream music rather than listen to FM radio because it opens me up to whole genres of music I would otherwise not be exposed to short of making a random purchase of music. Which BTW was the norm back in the mid 90s's and prior. Back then if you wanted to hear music other than what was on radio rotation, you got exposed to music from other peoples collection (which was often limited), or close your eyes and pull an LP/CD/Cassette and random and hoped for the best. However today, I'm finding all sorts of obscure bands that range from absolute shit to pure genius-why-isn't-this-top-40 level of stuff. Eventually, I'll find something I like and will do one of two things. 1; find a used CD and purchase online or, 2; purchase music from iTunes. Come full circle now, I'm purchasing more music thanks to legitimate internet streaming than I've ever did before. As for the RIAA, they can go fuck themselves!!! They're not the sole arbiter of what music should and shouldn't be popular. I'm not fucking cattle!
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You are obviously poorly educated, my friend. Let me help you with a basic concept. Any activity which fails to enrich either an American corporation, or the wealthiest 1%, or both, is by default "illegitimate". Your purpose in life is to help to amass more fortunes for those who already have more money than they can ever hope to spend. If you are not fulfilling that purpose, then you are illegitimate.
Check your sarcasm meter - the above is sarcasm because I have posted it. Had a RIAA rep posted it, there would be no sarcasm at all - he would be 100% serious.
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Here in Australia, we went through similar motions last year (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/04/20/0058202/australian-isp-wins-case-against-movie-studios), however our difference is that the local ISP fought back. In interviews with that ISP's CEO, he basically stated (paraphrased) "If MPAA/RIAA reported their findings to the police, and the police asked us for information on our customers - we would gladly provide those details. However we do not report to the MPAA/RIAA, so why should we get our customers in trouble if it's not warranted".
What the UK definitely needs, is an ISP who will stand up to the fact that the MPAA/RIAA actually have no rights both nationally and internationally. They can whinge all they want, but until the police/relevant local governing body with jurisdiction over the matter makes the decision, the ISPs should be free to provide access to whatever sites that the customers want.
This is absolutely ridiculous that an association has such influence in this regard. Emphasis that it's an association, not a governing body / police department.
I don't see how it should necessarily be so hard to select all of one's photos whose timestamp is last month, paste them in a document, verify that they're actually photos that one remembers taking, save in some format accepted by copyright.gov, and submit the file for registration.
No republic should tolerate the creation of an underclass. It's a threat to the liberties of everyone. It's also ultimately bad for business since the bottom line is entangled with individual liberty.
That's an incredibly patronizing attitude. You don't think that adults are able to make that decision for themselves, considering the tradeoffs with the benefit of discussion with local townspeople who have done the same?
It's amazing how creative the people on this site are coming up with self-serving arguments. Oh this is not for me, this is to protect the would-be professionals living in India and China from casual exploitation from the Microsofts of the world. Then others chime in: How informative. How insightful!
How hypocritical. Now go back to your little RIAA bashing.
One thing I like to do in discussions of this subject is check out links to music. So please, post some links. Since you've blown your cover anyway, might as well.
Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
Theif? I produce!
And yes, it does indeed suck a whole bag of dicks. The page title is not sarcasm. 99% of what is actually on my webserver is not globally visible and indexing does not work. It's a glorified dropbox. Sure, I used to have a blog - but it went away when I got sick of fighting with security vulnerabilities and realized I didn't really have much to say on it. I put things on it, then link to them. See? That's you, right there!
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Yeah, I'm not on the list. Google indexed my entire private multimedia site and posted it to the web. As near as I can figure the webproxy at work submitted everything I accessed. To think I still can't get Google to index my public site, maybe I should post some anti Bush rhetoric to entice them.
Agreed. Honestly, AFAIC if you're contributing to the conversation, even a little, there's no reason not to post your own links to your own site(s). It's the "posting just to advertise" that people hate.
Yes. This is one of their most repugnant rethorical tricks (and they have quite a bunch of them). Their version is even worse: they don't say "by default". Just "Shared == illegitimate". Ugh.
This is good news. The torrent server panorama was getting stale and complacent.
Cheers to the new players! Live short and bright lives!
+1!
You've characterized the slashdot reader very well. They are libertarian as long as their jobs are safe and their lifestyle is not threatened. They want no government interference whether it's job market or drug ban. But put THEM in a market, start evaluating options for replacing them, they become protectionist!
I'm much more funny, interesting and insightful than the moderators think
Oh, I'm sorry: you lose. I give a shit about "bedroom music creations." In short: suck it bitch.
Me too. Me and a mate did a record and were happy enough to just put it on soundcloud, last.fm etc. Maybe it's just me being an oddball but I think art is sullied when it's all about money.
Aww, for a moment I thought they were going to shut down Virgin Media, I almost liked RIAA.
Wonder what the full list of 21 is? Is youtube itself on the list? What about bing or google?
RIAA is just a proxy for the big names of the entertainment industry. Hurt them where it hurst, in the wallet. Boycott movies and cable TV.
It doesn't have to pose a major threat; every lost sale is a lost sale. I haven't given them a dime in years, and I don't "pirate" their product.
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The music industry was rather hoping that there would be a market for higher quality than CD, in the form of SACD an DVD-Audio.
Don't forget the Blu-ray album reported the other week. To me, it just smacks of trying to get rid of music which is portable; let's all go back to strapping hulking disc (or, god forbid, cassette) players to our belts with bags of the relevant storage medium on our backs. Not that I think this so-called hi-def audio is a bad idea, just the execution of it..
There's no substitute for a hard copy (well, a copy I have on a device where *I* control the bits), even if only to retain it if they stop serving it up.
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Be forewarned, I had no musical training or experience at the time. My brother was in percussion at the time in high school. Here it is. My brother is DJ Goyim, I was DJ Intermodal. I really think he and I should do another collaboration now that it has been 12 years. Especially once I get some equipment and can actually record my guitar, and it would be great if he picked his drums up again. Last I saw, the entire kit was sitting in our parents' hall closet.
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Protip to corporations: if you want to sell stuff, you need to have a middle class to buy it, which means you can't horde your funds or merely cycle them among the already wealthy.
"trickle down economics" works as well as "bottom up economics", but really what we need is "middle to middle economics", in which the majority of the population earn similar amounts.
Somehow, every system we build, no matter how new and updated, an aristocracy forms at the top of the power structure and attempts to rule the masses indefinitely.
Also, I find it insulting that Mr. Turkewitz considers shared music illegitimate by default.
It's in his best interests -- YOU are his competition. You are the biggest threat to the RIAA -- you, the independent. Do you really think the RIAA gives a shit if I give you a copy of a Metallica album? But if I give Joe Blow a copy of your album, he might like it and buy another of your albums, leaving Joe with less money to buy an RIAA album with.
As Doctorow says, nobody ever went broke from piracy but many artists have starved from obscurity, which is why I put the first drafts of "Nobots" in my /. journal; as soon as I can get it printed (been waiting 3 weeks for a galley proof, they shipped it last Thursday and it's not here yet) I have a couple of sales. I may not make back what I've invested in it (so far about $350) but if nobody had read my stuff, how would I sell even a single copy?
As soon as I get to where you can get a copy from Amazon I'll put a finished version of it, one chapter per week, in my journal and on my new web site. A month after it's out I'll make paperback available, a month after that I'm posting PDF and e-pub on my site for free download... because I didn't write it to sell, I wrote it to be read.
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Oh, on this we certainly agree, I was imply remarking on the potentially libellous nature of referring to file sharing as a whole as if it were illegitimate until proven otherwise. Innocent until proven guilty is the basic premise of criminal law in the United States, even if people have bastardized that over the past 200 or so years.
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Oh, on this we certainly agree,
I was sure of that, I just needed to beat my dead horse again, that lazy bastard...
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