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Blockbuster To Close Remaining US Locations

UnknowingFool writes "Blockbuster announced that it will close its remaining 300 U.S. locations by January and discontinue the DVD by mail service. Before being bought out by Dish, the chain was slowly closing locations. Dish's CEO said, 'This is not an easy decision, yet consumer demand is clearly moving to digital distribution of video entertainment.' From an all-time high of 9,000 locations in 2004, the chain has fallen on hard times and had emerged from bankruptcy in 2011."

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  1. Wait, what? by sunderland56 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Blockbuster still exists?

    1. Re:Wait, what? by asmkm22 · · Score: 2

      They closed a lot of stores, but many still remained.

      Until now. [queue the dramatic music]

    2. Re:Wait, what? by Charliemopps · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Think Rural. Get out in the sticks where your max internet speed is still 56k (and that's most of the country) and DVDs suddenly become useful again. I have a feeling that people in the Dakotas, Oregon, Washington state, etc... are going to be irritated the most by this.

    3. Re:Wait, what? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In the 'sticks' you press the 'on-demand' button on your DirectTV remote..

    4. Re:Wait, what? by slaker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Here in the midwestern US we have Family Video, which at one time also had pretty decent dialup service. All the local Family Video stores I'm aware of are still open, have free titles, rent most stock for $1 and have a porn section. As the last chain standing I'd say they did it right. I've been an eight-DVDs-at-a-time Netflix subscriber since 1999 but I'm glad the local brick and mortar store (not vending machine) is around. Sometime it's nice to just browse.

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    5. Re:Wait, what? by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why do you take everything so figuratively?

      Gaaaah!

      [sound of head literally exploding]

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    6. Re:Wait, what? by Black+LED · · Score: 2

      Yep, it's right next to the Miller's Outpost, Thrifty Drugs, Egghead Software, Waldenbooks and Quiznos. Just past the payphones and Crystal Pepsi machine.

    7. Re:Wait, what? by lgw · · Score: 2

      What really pisses me off right now is that Netflix is slowly killing their DVD business. Half the titles in my queue have become "short wait" this year, as Netflix stops buying replacements for broken discs. Very disappointing - I really like their DVD service.

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    8. Re:Wait, what? by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      The one near me actually had cars. There were always several cars in the lot. As the only video rental in the area that made sense. Now it's closed though but not because it reached zero customers but because there were not enough customers to support maintaining the business versus selling off the building.

      This also does not mean ALL video stores are closing; just the Blockbuster stores. If you drive around you will find video stores scattered around, especially in poorer areas of cities, as well as those video kiosks in grocery stores (same thing as a video store except for having a lousy selection), videos being sold cheap at drug stores, and so forth.

    9. Re:Wait, what? by swb · · Score: 2

      I've had a number of minor titles in my queue go to the "Saved" category with availability unknown, and ironically a couple that have done that but become available streaming.

      I'm not sure what drives the discs that were available that became unavailable, especially considering the number of discs that appear to be custom duplications for Netflix. I can only assume a disc that goes unavailable is out of print and Netflix does not have the rights to do a custom rental pressing.

    10. Re:Wait, what? by Rhacman · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm not sure why someone would do that either but the way you talk about it perhaps they should make a movie about it. It would feature the heroic adventure of a person browsing and reserving a rental online then trekking to the climate controlled grocery store to pick up the disk from the kiosk along with their groceries.

      [spoiler] In the climax of the movie our hero returns the movie the next day and purchases a soda and bag of pretzels from the adjacent vending machines to celebrate the $2 he just saved. [/spoiler]

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    11. Re:Wait, what? by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Their business model was morbidly flawed; they started renting movies when tapes cost over a hundred dollars each, so four bucks to rent one wasn't a bad deal. But then tapes (and later DVDs) came down in price, Blockbuster's competitors had prices down to a buck a tape/DVD and Blockbuster acted like they held a monopoly. Hell, there used to be a Blockbuster right across from Family Video on 6th street here, with FamVid DVDs at $1 and Blockbuster DVDs at $4 and you could often BUY the DVD Blockbuster was renting for $4 at WalMart for $5.

      Meanwhile, there are still dozens of Family Video stores here in town, as well as lots of RedBox kiosks. Blockbuster was greedy to the point of mental retardation. No way can you rent a $5 or $10 or even $20 item for $4.

    12. Re:Wait, what? by dwillden · · Score: 3, Interesting

      True but what really killed Blockbuster, was when Viacom spun it off as an independent company, but saddled it with all of Viacom's debts.

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  2. About time by KBehemoth · · Score: 5, Funny

    They were supposed to close years ago. They never got the memo because they only communicate by telegraph.

    1. Re:About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The courier was afraid to go into the store. He had a VHS that was late.

    2. Re:About time by TWiTfan · · Score: 2

      How in the hell are DVDs cheaper than a flat $7.99/month?

      They're not. But that's apples and oranges. When I walk into Blockbuster, I can be pretty sure that they'll have every new release out. When I go to Netflix, I can be pretty sure that all they'll have is a relatively weak selection of older stuff. A more apt comparison would be to Amazon's rental feature, where I can rent a new-release HD streaming feature (with a decent selection to choose from) for the same price as I can rent it on blu-ray from Blockbuster--only sans any special features and with noticeably lower video quality.

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    3. Re:About time by EdIII · · Score: 4, Informative

      The analog perfection that is VHS. Obviously.

      Seriously though, most DVDs and BluRays are absolute shitty encodes. Combine that with low-end equipment and you have overall poor quality with very visible artifacts like the infamous waterfall effect. I almost have a seizure watching Voyager on Netflix. That damn background in the medical bay is a wonderful example of such limitations.

      That's what you get with modern digital video formats. It allows for poorer performance and artifacts with lossy compression and non-perfect display software that has no problems fucking a frame or too or going half ass on the decode. Well mastered DVD/BluRay on appropriate equipment does not have this problem though. Unfortunately for most you are not going to find that at Walmart.

      So when you compare a DVD version against a VHS it's easy to see the lack of digital artifacts as an "improvement". Fuck. Compare it to LaserDisc? No competition at all. LaserDisc is still unreal compared to DVD. It took BluRay on high end equipment to finally beat LaserDisc. Stats may say otherwise, but real world performance is the best metric.

      Tl;DR : Not all DVD/BluRay masters are the same and the low end makes VHS look good by comparison.

  3. Really sucks by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I loved going in and buying the used flikcks; sometimes 4 DVDs for $20 or 2 Blurays for $20. I built up a nice physical collection which I much prefer to just files. If they shut down any local stores I'll make a point to be there early for the sell-off day.

    I guess I'm in that minority that likes the in-store experience and browsing shelves rather than clunky cable box UIs.

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    1. Re:Really sucks by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I guess I'm in that minority that likes the in-store experience and browsing shelves rather than clunky cable box UIs.

      I'm with you on this one.

      I still buy CDs and BluRay disks by going to the store and looking at what's there. I prefer to have the physical thing, instead of some digital thing they can decide on a whim I no longer 'own' and can no longer use.

      Admittedly, I haven't rented a movie in years ... but I'm certainly not paying to rent it on-line and then pay my ISP for the bandwidth needed to stream it.

      I'm definitely not prepared to give up physical media.

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  4. does everyone REALLY have IP-connected TV? by Joining+Yet+Again · · Score: 2

    I realise I live in an 18th century house with '70s heating system and am dripping in Old Money, which means I have the best money could buy... 30-300 years ago, but have people really moved on that quickly that everyone today has an IP-connected TV in their living room with which to watch films?

    1. Re:does everyone REALLY have IP-connected TV? by alexander_686 · · Score: 3, Informative

      IP is not the reason why BB died.

      Netflix was hammering it from above with a deeper catalog and a reasonable price structure. Redbox was hammering it from below offering cheaper rentals on the new releases. That gave BB a very thin environment to live in.

  5. Re:Ding dong the witch is dead! by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Informative

    nonsense, they were success in early 80s. that business model was what every VHS shop had, except BlockBuster's rates were lower, they had more of the popular movies and the fine was nominal.

  6. The Reasons by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dish's CEO said, 'This is not an easy decision, yet consumer demand is clearly moving to digital distribution of video entertainment.'

    Oh, sure, blame it all on the consumers!

    Let's be realistic here: Yes, increasing consumer demand for instant gratification is part of the video stores downfall, but they're experiencing an equal amount of pressure from the content cartels, who have spent years trying inadvertently (or intentionally) to kill off the rental industry with their obsession over controlling how consumers can access media.

    Content cartels... like Dish Network.

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  7. I got a nice restaurant ... by perpenso · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mine only closed about a year ago. It was replaced by a nice restaurant. Here's hoping everyone else gets a nice replacement.

    1. Re:I got a nice restaurant ... by RenderSeven · · Score: 3, Funny

      The Bank Event Horizon - Many years ago this was a thriving, happy planet - people, cities, shops, a normal world. Except that on the high streets of these cities there were slightly more banks than one might have thought necessary. And slowly, insidiously, the number of the banks were increasing. It's a well-known economic phenomenon but tragic to see it in operation, for the more banks there were, the more they had to charge and the more had to be borrowed to pay for it. And the more they borrowed the higher the fees became, and the more the banks proliferated, until the whole economy of the place passed what I believe is termed the Bank Event Horizon, and it became no longer economically possible to build anything other than banks. Result - collapse, ruin and famine. Most of the population died out. Those few who had the right kind of genetic instability mutated into beings with no buttocks to carry wallets.

      An entire archeological strata made up of nothing but ATM cards, and above it... nothing"

  8. Netflix was a reason but not the only reason by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It would be easy to say that Netflix killed Blockbuster, and certainly Blockbuster inflicted harm on themselves. Netflix did play a part but Blockbuster's problems come from a business model that came under threat from multiple fronts.

    Netflix challenged Blockbuster by offering both instant streaming and titles by mail services but mainly in older titles and TV shows. Blockbuster still had an advantage for consumers in new releases.

    Unfortunately, the rise of VOD competitors like Apple's iTunes, Amazon Instant, VUDU, Microsoft, etc offered consumers better choices when it came to new releases and offered advantages over Blockbuster. Even at the same price of a Blockbuster rental, consumers didn't have to physically get and return the title. Stock was never a problem, and the catalogs were better than a consumer could get at a Blockbuster's location.

    For consumers that could not stream video, Redbox has taken away the last advantage of Blockbuster. The prices are cheaper and even if the selection is as limited as a Blockbuster location, there are far more Redbox locations. Since Redbox's model allows rentals to be returned to any location, this means the death of Blockbuster in many locations.

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    1. Re:Netflix was a reason but not the only reason by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It would be easy to say that Netflix killed Blockbuster, and certainly Blockbuster inflicted harm on themselves. Netflix did play a part but Blockbuster's problems come from a business model that came under threat from multiple fronts. [..] Even at the same price of a Blockbuster rental, [VOD] consumers didn't have to physically get and return the title.

      This is true, but there's one important factor everyone missed (and I overlooked myself in the past until someone mentioned it)- the falling cost of DVDs over the past decade has often made it barely cheaper to rent instead of buy. With box sets, it's usually a no brainer- the equivalent cost of each disc is frequently below what most places would bother charging for rental.

      To be fair, this is less the case for the new-release blockbuster DVDs which Blockbuster specialise in (apparently, I'm never in there myself), as those tend to be still quite expensive when new. Even so, nowdays it's surprising how fast the retail price falls after this.

      Prerecorded videotapes were apparently massively expensive in the late 70s and early 80s, and even when prices on retail tapes had fallen it still made sense to rent if you were only going to watch it once. Nowadays? Not so much, if at all.

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  9. Re:A few are still around by Mitreya · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My sister still likes going to the store and browsing.

    "Digital delivery" for which the market has spoken does not work in combination with crappy (monopolistic and sometimes transfer-capped) internet.

    Having a near-by rental store had its benefits.

  10. independent video rental? by schlachter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Blockbuster pushed out many of the independent video rental places. I wonder if some of them will make a come back, to fill what ever niche there will be for renting physical videos. Or maybe that niche just won't exist anymore.

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  11. That's sad by Haoie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I always find it difficult to understand the mentality of those cheering and saying good riddance that a long time business [even former giants of the industry] has failed.

    Hey, it could be your workplace next.

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  12. Driving just for video seems unusual by perpenso · · Score: 2

    If they were on every corner then you could walk, no driving necessary. Coincidentally mine was actually on my corner. I walked by it often, near daily, sometimes I stopped in.

    Others were located in shopping centers that people were driving to or driving by anyway. Over the decades I don't think I made many special trips to the video store. The resources argument seems to be a red herring.

    That said, its an obsolete business model. Mine turned into a nice restaurant, something far more useful these days.

    1. Re:Driving just for video seems unusual by Jason+Levine · · Score: 3, Informative

      We'll still drive to get videos from time to time. Of course, when we do this, we're headed to our local library where we rent them for free. (Technically not free since we're paying taxes to support the library, but we'd pay those taxes anyway so it's effectively free.) Our library has a surprisingly good selection and if they don't have what you're looking for, you can request it form another branch.

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  13. A large segment of the market is not using the TV by perpenso · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A large segment of the market is not watching their movies on the TV in the living room, or any other room for that matter. There is a huge generational shift to kids watching movies on a computer or tablet.

  14. Digital? by varmfskii · · Score: 2

    They went digital then they switched from VHS to DVD.

  15. Re:A few are still around by TWiTfan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem is that the selection on Netflix sucks balls. And I say that as someone who has had their streaming service from day one. Netflix streaming is great when you're content to watch whatever they happen to have at the moment (mostly older stuff). It sucks when you want to watch a specific movie.

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  16. Re:Ding dong the witch is dead! by minstrelmike · · Score: 2

    At some point when they were extremely profitable, half of BlockBuster's money came from late fees.
    For some reason, I suspect that was the beginning of the end.
    That wasn't a model you could use by mail.

  17. Re:Ding dong the witch is dead! by Rakarra · · Score: 2

    nonsense, they were success in early 80s. that business model was what every VHS shop had, except BlockBuster's rates were lower, they had more of the popular movies and the fine was nominal.

    Except of course, unless they fined you for the hell of it even when you turned in the movie on time.
    I stopped going to Blockbuster after they did that to me, and they lost a class-action lawsuit over the issue a few years later. They didn't exactly build consumer loyalty.
    But really it was Netflix's DVD-by-mail that killed video stores for me.

  18. Re:A pity. by c0d3g33k · · Score: 2

    And Netflix loves to send their version of the DVD that has all the cool extras stripped out.

    No, I think it sticks in their craw and chokes them just a little, because those stripped down "for rental only" discs were forced on them by the content providers. I think Netflix would prefer to send the full retail versions.

  19. Re:Sad times by h4rr4r · · Score: 2

    Oh noes netflix knows what programs I watched! The horror, the horror. Yeah your tinfoil hat is on way too tight.

    All they can do with that data is use it to figure out what to recommend.

  20. Re:Sad times by ArbitraryName · · Score: 2

    Psst, your mail order DVD service also knows exactly what movies you watched. Better cancel it.

  21. Blockbuster UK just went under for the 2nd time... by Dogtanian · · Score: 2

    They closed a lot of stores, but many still remained. Until now.

    Ironically, this mirrors the situation with the UK chain which just went bankrupt for the *second* time a little over a week ago, having first gone under in January and closed a number of shops. (I assume it was a legally separate and/or spun-off business of the US parent before it first went bankrupt, as this seems to have happened independent of the troubles of the US Blockbuster).

    I've no idea if any stores will remain open this time, but given that there was no obvious future for the chain when they *first* went bankrupt, it'd be surprising if it happened again.

    Shame for the remaining people that worked there, but no surprise, and not a sad loss. Blockbuster entered the independent store and small chain dominated UK market at the end of the 80s (by buying the then largest rental chain), and ruthlessly exploited its US parent's size and connections to drive them almost all out of business- via predatory means- during the next decade, leaving a virtual monoculture by the turn of the millennium. From a comment on this page by Madiain28 at the time of their *first* bankruptcy earlier this year:-

    This was a company owned by Viacom that is also parent company of most of the big distribution rental market. They showed no mercy in the late eighties and nineties closing thousands of independent rental shops by opening next door to them. Whilst independent shops had to pay between £30-60 per copy of film blockbuster could bulk receive from distributors virtually costing nothing just rejigging figures. They would strike a deal taking thousands of copies at a cost of about £5 then mass rent for a few weeks and sell off for more than the initial cost. Whilst the small independents struggled to buy a few copies and make any profit.

    I worked part time for them when I was at college in the early nineties and there underlying ethos was to ensure they shut down any competition in the area by undercutting then as soon as they got rid of the competitor they whacked the prices up. 20 years ago they were charging £3.50 to £4 per night rental in Aberdeen once they closed Global video down.

    He/she also adds:-

    With the launch of Netflix and Lovefilm it was inevitable. As the market leader in the rental market they did not invest in online streaming or offer comparable deals in store as even their own online packages for post rental were far cheaper. Although I sympathise with all the staff as a company they deserve to go.

    In short, nasty soulless corporate chain that monopolised the market then got so used to the nice stream of easy income and the cushion of monopoly status that they could "afford" not to respond immediately to changes in the market... so by the time things got bad enough to start affecting them it was too late for them to change. What a shame. *cough*

    FWIW, the current owners (who bought it after the January bankruptcy and closure of some stores) were a private equity firm. While I might wonder why they bought the company when the chain was already clearly doomed by that point, it's well known that many private equity firms come out of these bankruptcies still having made a profit by dubious means (i.e. leaching the value out of the company and leaving the debts behind) and that may well have been the intent here, regardless of whether Blockbuster UK had a future or not.

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  22. Re:Sad times by geekoid · · Score: 2

    I would call 24+ hours to get your movie a hell of a long buffer.

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  23. Reasons to be bitter by RevWaldo · · Score: 2

    "This is all your fault!" cried the CEO at the press conference, pointing his finger at the crowd. "We asked you, begged you to rewind, but you wouldn't, you just wouldn't, I... " His voice trailed off, then his eyes rolled back as he collapsed onto the podium, then into a heap on the stage, the toppled-over mics blasting everyone's ears with feedback, then falling silent.

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