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Linux Format Magazine Team Quits, Launches New Profit-Donating Mag

An anonymous reader writes "What happens when the editorial team of the biggest-selling English Linux magazine gets frustrated? They leave their company and start a new one. Most of the writers behind Linux Format have jumped ship and started Linux Voice, a social enterprise magazine which will donate 50% of its profits back to the community, and freely license its content under Creative Commons after 9 months. They're running a fundraiser on Indiegogo with already a quarter of their funding goal reached. Will this shake up the whole publishing industry?"

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  1. Note To Management by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dear Management,
    Feedback isn't just the noise Jimmy Hendricks made with his guitar. It's a vital part of maintaining a quality workforce. If you fail at employee morale you will fail at keeping your staff.

    Sincerely,
    Your Non-Mechanized Employees

    1. Re:Note To Management by Immerman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dear Cog in the Machine,

          By encouraging regular overtime, and by extension maintaining high unemployment rates, we ensure that there is a steady glut of hungry people willing to take your place. If you wish to continue this conversation you may report to HR for your generous severance package of three moldy crackers and a half-empty bottle of flat soda.

      Indifferently,
      The Mercantile Management

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    2. Re:Note To Management by bmcage · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Actually, if you read LF, you would see that indeed, those 3 write most of the articles. A 4th one also quit, but can't join Voice till January due to some contract clause.

      Other good articles typically are from independents. If you look on the idiegogo page, you will see they also need a budget for such articles, based on a fixed fee per page.

  2. Will this shake up the whole publishing industry? by c0d3g33k · · Score: 4, Informative

    No.

  3. Fork!! by TWiTfan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Even a Linux *magazine* ends up a hopeless mire of competing distros.

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  4. Afraid not by mackil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These days, all it takes to shake up the whole publishing industry is to be successful. The whole industry is in sharp decline and everyone knows it, especially those within.

    I'd like to think they have a chance. Their goals are certainly noble. But I wouldn't be too optimistic.

    1. Re:Afraid not by jonnyj · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The whole industry is in sharp decline and everyone knows it, especially those within.

      True. But Linux Format has been bucking the trend in recent years. Its circulation has been rising steadily and, at 21,784 print copies per issue in 2012, it has a similar circulation to the venerable New Statesman (24,910). It trounces many other very familiar specialist mags such as Mac Format (6,842), PC format (6,249) and What Mountain Bike (13,870). It's not even too far behind the 100-year old Autocar (40,168).

      All figures from ABC.

    2. Re:Afraid not by petes_PoV · · Score: 2

      it [Linux Format] has a similar circulation to the venerable New Statesman (24,910)

      But the New Statesman doesn't fill its nagazine with month-old stories, interchangable reviews of gadgets that give the impression all the reviewer has ever done is read the publicity material (and hardly ever give a negative reiew, for fear the advertisers will pull the plug, or they won't be given any more free goodies). The NS doesn't continually recycle "How To" articles intended for newbies to the political process.

      In short LF is just an advertising tool, coupled with an attempt to fill the gap left by the lack of Linux documentation and instruction. The New Statesman (leaving aside its political slant, which I don't hold but can still respect) on the other hand provides insightful comment, analysis and in-depth pieces written by experts. As I say, I don't hold with its left-wing views (no matter whi its guest editor is), but it seems to offer its readers more than the trivial and shallow content that LF perpetually pushes out,

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  5. Re:Betteridge's Law of Headlines by c0d3g33k · · Score: 3, Informative

    This calls for the Slashdot Summary Corollary to Betteridge's Law of Headlines. Then mythosaz is entirely correct.

  6. Re:Will this shake up the whole publishing industr by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It won't even shake up the english linux publishing industry....if there is such a thing.

  7. Re:Will this shake up the whole publishing industr by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Chances are probably even more minor. After they go in operation for a while and experience a lot of the decisions they need to do to stay operational, they will probably start making the same "Stupid" decisions their bosses made, that caused them to quite in disgust.

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  8. FOSS contributions by Stephen+Patrick · · Score: 2

    The consensus seems to be that Linux Voice won't shake up the publishing industry. But if it ticks along nicely, ploughint profits back into FOSS organisations, and gives stuff away under a free licence, that'll still be pretty good. Maybe not a revolution on the 1917 or 1789 scale, but maybe revolutionary in a more modest, 1830 Paris uprising kind of way.

  9. No, but the Age of Information will. by VortexCortex · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We're still operating largely under the false premise that information is scarce. Bits are in near infinite supply, digital data thus should tend towards zero price regardless of cost to create (if we're to believe Economics:101). Only via artificial scarcity of information are any able to monetize the bits themselves. Piracy can only exist because artificial scarcity is being leveraged.

    The bits are not scarce. The work to create or discover new information in new combinations of bits is what is scarce. Market your ability to do work. Get paid for that work once. Ask for enough up front to cover your expenses for the work just like in ANY other market: See also, Mechanics. Bid, do the work, get paid; No fee each time you start the car and benefit from the work. You want more money? Do more work.

    Copyright and Patents are a horrible futures market for your work. You under pay yourself for the chance to make more money from your work. However, this means secrecy and thus lack of market research in most cases, leading to high churn rates and lack of job stability and thus lower pay. Working for the community directly is the same as working for a pubilsher: You get paid the same for the same work done once. The difference is there's no middle men trying to inflate the price via artificial scarcity while adding zero benefit to the product itself.

    This is the first generation of the Age of Information wherein every single person is a publisher. Of course there will be huge changes and growing pains. This very comment is published. Copies are cheap! This data was duplicated many times in many routers before you saw it, and multiple times in your computer's storage, RAM, and video memory. No one should be paying for individual copies; We'll pay for the work to create the first copy, and that's it (it's the only one that was scarce). Publishing as we know it will either become extinct or adapt. Publishers will become publicists or agents instead who advertize your ability to perform work.

    I've said this time and again. We now live in a post-information-scarcity world. Times are changing fast. Interestingly enough markets are aligning with the FOSS model of development: Paid to do work, release the output for "free" (since it's already been paid for), do more work to get more money. This is the same model that all other labor markets use, it only seems alien if you conflate infinitely reproducible information with the concept of finite resources like property. Artificial scarcity is untennable. Deal with it.

    1. Re:No, but the Age of Information will. by EvilSS · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Get paid for that work once. Ask for enough up front to cover your expenses for the work just like in ANY other market: See also, Mechanics. Bid, do the work, get paid; No fee each time you start the car and benefit from the work. You want more money? Do more work.

      OK, I'm an author who self publishes. How, exactly, in your utopia do I get paid for my work? Who pays me? People off the street walk up and ask me to write a book they never thought of? Or in your world, and I beholden to big publishing to pay me to do "work". In that case, WHY ARE THEY PAYING ME? For a book that they will then give away? Not a very sound business practice that. The usual answer to this question from your type is "They sell the hard copy of course!" except that makes no sense either. For one, hard copy book sales are not exactly trending up. For another, their competition can go, buy one copy, wholesale copy it, and print their own version, for less since they didn't pay me to write it, so their costs are lower. That is a quick and terminal race to the bottom.

      Or do you propose that I just write for free and get a job at McDonald's to keep a roof over my head?

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    2. Re:No, but the Age of Information will. by Seraphim_72 · · Score: 2

      Publishing as we know it will either become extinct or adapt. Publishers will become publicists or agents instead who advertize your ability to perform work.

      Ony if your life's desire is to read vampire fanfic or yet another star {wars/trek/blazers/fighter/etc} book. Whether you like it or not, there are publishers out there that do a good job of filtering the crap from ever hitting your eyes. How many authors would have never seen the light of day without a good publisher? And no, they aren't keeping good authors down. When you roll the word publisher around in your mouth stop thinking of college text books and big record labels and hink of Baen, O'Rielly, and Tor instead.

      Paid to do work, ... , do more work to get more money. This is the same model that all other labor markets use....

      A couple of thoughts for you:

      • - That line you draw there, it is the line that seperates Art from craft. The fact that you are asked to pay a tiny proportion of the cost of a piece of Art means you already are getting it essentially for free. Perhaps you feel it is too much to ask $7.00 for a paerback, but how much more than that sum have some of the works you have read affected you, changed you, altered your perception of life and the world?
      • - You are also conflating 'work' and 'value'. You can work your entire life and never will you make another Picasso painting.
      • - Lastly, a long running experiment has been running testig this sort of thing already, it's called YouTube. Sure some people have made money from videos they have posted, but how many how often? Can you even feed the cat on it? And of the good things that are there how many drown in a sea of "Gangnam Style" and "What does the fox say"?

      You see Shangri La in the mist on the horizon and want to tear down the wall that holds it in. I point out that the mist is rising from the ocean of "Ow my Balls!" that the dam you want to destroy is holding back.

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  10. Re:Will this shake up the whole publishing industr by philip.mather5551 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh I don't know, it's just doubled in size for a start.

  11. LWN by tokiko · · Score: 2

    They should just contribute their articles to Linux Weekly News so we don't need to setup another subscription.