Google Nexus Gets Wireless Charger

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Google Nexus Gets Wireless Charger

Posted by timothy on Thursday November 21, 2013 @05:48AM from the just-lay-still dept.

judgecorp writes "Wireless charging has had little success so far (except for toothbrushes) but Google is giving it a good try, with a Nexus Wireless Charger that works with LG's Nexus 4 and 5 as well as the latest version of Google's tablet, the second generation Nexus 7. The charger operates using the Qi standard, which seems to be ahead of rival Powermat."

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The distinction is minor by i+kan+reed · 2013-11-21 05:53 · Score: 4, Insightful

You magnetically drop your device into place onto a block on a power cord. Instead of plugging the power cord into your device. The actual distinction in convenience is a half a second of fiddling per day.
1. Re:The distinction is minor by FunkyELF · 2013-11-21 05:55 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  It wears out your port. I wish these phones came with tethered but removable inserts for charging.
  My brother for example works in a pizza restaurant... he gets flour stuck up his charger all the time and has to pick it out.
2. Re:The distinction is minor by Anonymous Coward · 2013-11-21 06:01 · Score: 1
  
  Actually if charging is wireless then there's no reason to have any ports at all on a modern smartphone, allowing it to be hermetically sealed and thus waterproof.
3. Re:The distinction is minor by jslarve · 2013-11-21 06:02 · Score: 1
  
  Luckily, I leave my Nexus 7 plugged in all the time. My one gripe about this device is that it's find to find the hole when plugging in the USB charger. (flour, or not). It does seem to have a propensity to wear.
4. Re:The distinction is minor by Russ1642 · 2013-11-21 06:04 · Score: 1
  
  Difficult to get speakers and microphone sealed up.
5. Re:The distinction is minor by hypergreatthing · 2013-11-21 06:05 · Score: 1
  
  With constantly plugging a cable in and out of a device you will eventually wear it down and break it (becomes loose, etc).
  You cannot wear out a wireless charger.
  That is the distinction.
6. Re:The distinction is minor by MondoGordo · 2013-11-21 06:07 · Score: 2
  
  assuming you only plug it in to charge once a day ...
  If, like me, you use your phone throughout the day, letting it sip juice while stopped at my desk for 10 or 15 minutes several times a day, the time savings adds up; not to mention the wear and tear on the port that isn't happening and when i leave the office it's usually got a decent charge left.
  In addition since going to cordless charging I've never once forgotten to unplug the cord and accidentally yanked it out of the port or the wall
7. Re:The distinction is minor by beefoot · 2013-11-21 06:08 · Score: 1
  
  bluetooth?
8. Re:The distinction is minor by mspohr · 2013-11-21 06:13 · Score: 1
  
  I have QI wireless charging on my Nexus 7 and Nexus 4.
  This is incredibly convenient. Just set the device on the charger. You don't have to fiddle with the connector (there must be a rule that you will always pick up the connector in the wrong orientation). I find the fiddling with the connector is more like 15 seconds. I don't even have to think about wireless charging. Just set the device down.
  Works great.
  
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9. Re:The distinction is minor by HornWumpus · 2013-11-21 06:15 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Granted my old Defy isn't the loudest phone. It is water proof enough that I've gone swimming with it in my pocket.
  Water proof is apparently a very popular option in Japan. Social bathing etc.
  
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10. Re:The distinction is minor by Kryptonian+Jor-El · 2013-11-21 06:17 · Score: 1
  
  The nexus charger is magnetic
  
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11. Re:The distinction is minor by umafuckit · 2013-11-21 06:18 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  In most usage scenarios, pizza restaurants excepted, I doubt "worn out charging port" is going to be the reason you ultimately stop using the phone. I don't think I've ever had a device fail due to the charging port. For most people, wireless charging is a nice luxury rather than a genuinely useful feature.
  
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12. Re:The distinction is minor by Anonymous Coward · 2013-11-21 06:19 · Score: 1
  
  As a sibling post pointed out, it wears out the port. In fact, my parent's Playbook has a damaged USB port and now requires some finesse to get it to charge properly. My HP Touchpad, on the other hand, still has a fully working port because I have a Touchstone (the wireless charging equivalent designed only for the TP). The only time I would ever plug a USB cable into my Touchpad is if I wanted to update Android (and even still, I could probably find other ways to do this over wireless anyway).
13. Re:The distinction is minor by Andy+Dodd · 2013-11-21 06:19 · Score: 5, Interesting
  
  The most likely part of a connector to wear out are the springs - which is why in the MicroUSB standard, the springs are in the plug (e.g. the cable) and not the socket.
  
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14. Re:The distinction is minor by compro01 · 2013-11-21 06:21 · Score: 2
  
  Also, it's not magnetic - just induction.
  Actually, it is magnetic. Google's charger has a magnet in it and a bit of steel or something in the phone so the coils line up on their own rather than having to position it yourself.
  
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15. Re:The distinction is minor by goldaryn · 2013-11-21 06:22 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  You magnetically drop your device into place onto a block on a power cord.
  Wow, that's cool. I drop mine using boring old gravity.
16. Re:The distinction is minor by compro01 · 2013-11-21 06:23 · Score: 2
  
  Not really. Just use an appropriate membrane over the speaker/microphone. Lifeproof has been doing it for years with their cases.
  Granted, you lose a bit in volume, but that can be accounted for if you're designing the device from the start to be a sealed unit.
  
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17. Re:The distinction is minor by Ravaldy · 2013-11-21 06:23 · Score: 2
  
  May not look like much now but it's baby steps like this that makes these kinds of technologies eventually become much better. If they don't start somewhere there will be no R&D money to continue and improve.
  The long term objective would be to enter your house and the darn thing starts charging regardless of where you are.
18. Re:The distinction is minor by tchuladdiass · 2013-11-21 06:29 · Score: 2
  
  For that to happen, the charging would have to be via beamed RF energy instead of magnetic induction. What I'd rather see is a return to devices that only needed charging or battery replacements once per month or so. Like the old 2-way pagers I used to carry.
19. Re:The distinction is minor by petteyg359 · 2013-11-21 06:30 · Score: 1
  
  Sounds like you'd be better off if the companies would ditch the "thinner is better" idiocy and put some decently hefty batteries in the things. My LG G2x gets a week of standby time with the extended battery I bought, and I will never purchase a device without an easily replaceable battery (as in just under the back cover, so all I have to do is get a bigger battery and fatter cover). I don't give a damn about wireless charging if the charge won't last more than a day in the first place.
20. Re:The distinction is minor by Mr+D+from+63 · 2013-11-21 06:32 · Score: 1
  
  A replaceable port would solve this problem.
21. Re:The distinction is minor by Anonymous Coward · 2013-11-21 06:33 · Score: 1
  
  The Kindle Fire often fails for this reason:
  
  http://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/112103/Intermittent+USB+Power+Port+-+Common+Problem
  
  Both my kindle fire and my mother-in-law's kindle fire failed for this reason. Also, my three year old has difficulty getting the plug in and out, and tends to yank on the cord. With a pad, he would have no problem charging the device.
22. Re:The distinction is minor by timeOday · 2013-11-21 06:33 · Score: 1
  
  I would LOVE to have wireless charging on my Garmin GPS watch. The problem is the contacts get gummed up by sweaty grit, until it won't charge, reliably or at all. It's a persistent problem for many people with this type of device.
23. Re:The distinction is minor by mishu2065 · 2013-11-21 06:38 · Score: 1
  
  Difficult, but it can definitely be done (even if only on the flagship model right now): http://blogs.sonymobile.com/press_release/new-xperia-z-1-worlds-best-camera-in-a-waterproof-smartphone/
24. Re:The distinction is minor by hawguy · 2013-11-21 06:41 · Score: 1
  
  A replaceable port would solve this problem.
  Until the contacts of the replaceable port wear out.
  But then I guess a replaceable replaceable port would take care of that.
  Or just use a wireless charger.
25. Re:The distinction is minor by X0563511 · 2013-11-21 06:44 · Score: 1
  
  That's going to require either a few breakthroughs on ultra-low-current ICs, breakthroughs in energy storage (you know the batteries we already have can explode/violently-burn?) or devices with huge battery packs...
  
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26. Re:The distinction is minor by X0563511 · 2013-11-21 06:45 · Score: 1
  
  So you can get gunk in the port port instead?
  
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27. Re:The distinction is minor by X0563511 · 2013-11-21 06:46 · Score: 1
  
  Not really, but it's difficult to get them to be loud (or sensitive) at the same time.
  
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28. Re:The distinction is minor by Charliemopps · 2013-11-21 06:47 · Score: 1
  
  uh... no... The most important point is that there's no longer a cord strung across your floor leading to your $450 phone for you to trip over causing afore mentioned $450 phone sailing into your brick fireplace.
29. Re:The distinction is minor by dfghjk · 2013-11-21 06:48 · Score: 1
  
  "The actual distinction in convenience is a half a second of fiddling per day."
  This is, of course, wrong. Typical for /. though, people with utterly no experience stating things as fact and getting modded Insightful.
30. Re:The distinction is minor by bill_mcgonigle · 2013-11-21 06:54 · Score: 1
  
  You magnetically drop your device into place onto a block on a power cord. Instead of plugging the power cord into your device. The actual distinction in convenience is a half a second of fiddling per day.
  I got my wife one of those HP Touchpads on the $99 close-out special and loaded Android on it. Fantastic device, really, too bad they sold it with WebOS (which is fine, but nobody* supports it).
  But their USB charger is fundamentally junk. I looked all over boards and everybody seems to have come to this conclusion. The wireless charger is, however, well made and so I got one, just to solve the charging problem.
  The interesting thing is, it's a stand, not just a charger, so now there's a 9" information display sitting up on the desk in the living room, not just a tablet laying flat and charging. By default it goes into clock mode, but I need to spend some time soon to figure out how to make that mode show me a weather widget as well, maybe a headline or bitcoin price ticker too.
  So, if done right, wireless charging can be more useful than simply saving a few seconds. My phone, on the other hand, is a regular MicroUSB, and the cable is always in the way or falling down off the desk, or whatever. I could rig up a cable management solution, but if I'm going to spend that time/effort/money, I might as well just get a wireless charging mat.
  Aside: anybody know about flashing the Sprint Nexus 5 onto Verizon pre-paid? Verizon is all that works where I need to go.
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31. Re:The distinction is minor by hawguy · 2013-11-21 06:56 · Score: 1
  
  In most usage scenarios, pizza restaurants excepted, I doubt "worn out charging port" is going to be the reason you ultimately stop using the phone. I don't think I've ever had a device fail due to the charging port. For most people, wireless charging is a nice luxury rather than a genuinely useful feature.
  I think that people that don't find wireless charging to be useful and convenient are people that don't use wireless chargers.
  It's nice to keep a wireless charger on my desk at work, I can drop my phone on it, then grab it when I go to a meeting without fear of forgetting to unplug it and dragging the power strip it's plugged into across my desk.
  Likewise, a charger on the bedroom dresser means that I can just put the phone on there when I go to bed to keep it charged - no need to fumble with cables in the dark to plug it in.
32. Re:The distinction is minor by Joce640k · 2013-11-21 06:57 · Score: 1
  
  With Micro-B USB connectors the moving parts (spring contacts) are in the cable. It's designed so the cable wears out, not the socket. Replace the cable after your 10,000 connections and you're good.for another 10,000.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Durability
  If the USB connector breaks, it's because you're a ham-fisted clod, not because it's badly designed.
  
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33. Re:The distinction is minor by somarilnos · 2013-11-21 07:00 · Score: 1
  
  Modern day, that's true. The problem was largely resolved with the adoption of MicroUSB for most charge cables. Micro was designed to put most of the stress of plugging and unplugging the device on the cheap, easily replaceable cable, instead of the phone's internals. Makes a big difference.
34. Re:The distinction is minor by Joce640k · 2013-11-21 07:00 · Score: 1
  
  Actually if charging is wireless then there's no reason to have any ports at all on a modern smartphone, allowing it to be hermetically sealed and thus waterproof.
  ...and only able to charge if you're at home or are carrying your special charger pad (plus wall-wart) around with you.
  USB cables work almost anywhere these days.
  
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35. Re: The distinction is minor by AvitarX · 2013-11-21 07:00 · Score: 1
  
  I've lost 3 devices to worn out charging port (or broken at least).
  A T-Mobile g2, a nexus one, and a Nokia Bluetooth speaker.
  At least the speaker involved a tug on the cord breaking it off the circuit board.the phones were 12 to 18 months old, so those I think were wear.
  I naught 3 charging mats for my nexus 5, and it was a selling point.
  
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36. Re:The distinction is minor by Wdomburg · 2013-11-21 07:11 · Score: 1
  
  Really, it's the sort of thing that you don't realize you want until you have it, then you are annoyed if you don't have it.
  Even under the best conditions, half a second is a bit of an exaggeration, and you're often not under the best of conditions. The cable slipped behind the desk, or you realize that you forgot to plug your phone in after you turned off the light or took off your glasses, or you're driving and don't want to be the asshole who causes an accident because you were fiddling with a cablet instead of keeping your eyes on the road, or your cable is getting dodgy and you keep forgetting to order a new one.
  And then there is the annoyance of having your phone go dead because you were too tired to bother flipping the light back on, or never did hit a red light long enough to plug your phone in, or you jostled your phone and it stopped charging.
  Is it a need? Certainly not. But it is damned handy.
37. Re:The distinction is minor by beckett · 2013-11-21 07:15 · Score: 1
  
  You magnetically drop your device into place onto a block on a power cord. Instead of plugging the power cord into your device. The actual distinction in convenience is a half a second of fiddling per day.
  this was why i was genuinely surprised to see cordless mice and keyboards being so commonplace, even though the distance and hassle is so minimal with such devices.
  
  cables are a necessary evil. i'd much rather have a clean desk.
38. Re:The distinction is minor by TooMuchToDo · 2013-11-21 07:26 · Score: 1
  
  Out drinking one night, I dropped my Galaxy Nexus in a toilet. Fully submerged. Drunk me rinsed it off, powered it off, and then took it home. After sitting for 5 days in a container of rice, it powered back up without issue.
  I consider that damn near waterproof.
39. Re:The distinction is minor by Joce640k · 2013-11-21 07:32 · Score: 1
  
  I *love* just dropping it on the stand when I go to bed at night.
  Do you love not being able to charge it anywhere *but* on the special stand?
  
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40. Re:The distinction is minor by Carnivore · 2013-11-21 07:42 · Score: 1
  
  Re: Sprint-to-Verizon flash:
  I suspect no, but I would be very interested to know if it's possible as well.
41. Re:The distinction is minor by MikeBabcock · 2013-11-21 07:58 · Score: 1
  
  You forget waterproofing. With Bluetooth and Qi charging, there's no need for external ports on a phone anymore.
  
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42. Re:The distinction is minor by MikeBabcock · 2013-11-21 07:59 · Score: 1
  
  My PSP's USB charging port wore out... that annoyed me greatly. Luckily it had a traditional plug-in option as well.
  
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43. Re:The distinction is minor by i+kan+reed · 2013-11-21 08:00 · Score: 1
  
  Oh, sure, say I'm wrong, then don't tell me how. I positively love being misinformed and much prefer being modded up to learning things.
44. Re:The distinction is minor by MikeBabcock · 2013-11-21 08:00 · Score: 1
  
  Small devices like watches and bluetooth headsets and their ilk are precisely where I'd love to have wireless charging the most ... although also the hardest to line up properly.
  
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45. Re:The distinction is minor by MikeBabcock · 2013-11-21 08:00 · Score: 1
  
  You've done that too? :)
  
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46. Re:The distinction is minor by denis-The-menace · 2013-11-21 08:19 · Score: 1
  
  They just want to help the world be a better place...
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47. Re:The distinction is minor by LetterJ · 2013-11-21 08:20 · Score: 1
  
  I drop my phone on the wireless charger at work and at home when I go to bed. And, amazingly enough, there's ALSO a micro-USB connector that lets me charge it in the car or via a battery pack or any of the ways one charges a phone that doesn't have wireless charging. Wireless charging is an "AND", not an "OR".
  
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48. Re:The distinction is minor by Anonymous Coward · 2013-11-21 08:33 · Score: 1
  
  (e.g. the cable)
  You mean, "i.e. the cable".
49. Re:The distinction is minor by Anonymous Coward · 2013-11-21 08:41 · Score: 1
  
  Admit that it's a novelty and move on. Making up problems that it supposedly solves isn't making the case you think it is.
  The fact that you want wireless charging is justification enough for you to buy it. It isn't like people are being forced to wirelessly charge their phones.
50. Re:The distinction is minor by mythosaz · 2013-11-21 08:46 · Score: 1
  
  No, he means e.g.
  He's providing a concrete example, not a hypothetical result.
51. Re:The distinction is minor by mythosaz · 2013-11-21 08:53 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  After sitting for 5 days in a container of rice, it powered back up without issue.
  Leaving your phone in rice will attract Asians, who will fix your phone for you.
52. Re:The distinction is minor by mythosaz · 2013-11-21 08:58 · Score: 1
  
  You're going to anger the vocal minority who decry any phone without a Micro-SD slot as useless.
53. Re:The distinction is minor by Cammi · 2013-11-21 09:06 · Score: 1
  
  See Kindle Fire HD and Kindle Fire. They become useless after about 2 months due to the stupid "worn out charging port". aka, it gets loose with normal usage. So ... wireless charging is indeed a need, not a luxury.
54. Re:The distinction is minor by ganjadude · 2013-11-21 09:06 · Score: 1
  
  agreed on the fire, both mine and my sisters ports are so bad that its damn near imposssible to charge it unless i wrap the cord around the entire thing and lean it just right so there is pressure on the port. its the only device ive ever had this problem with
  
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55. Re:The distinction is minor by Tailhook · 2013-11-21 09:20 · Score: 1
  
  you're a ham-fisted clod
  Or a four year old rips the cord running around in an airport. Or it's dark and you accidentally the phone while plugged in. Or the cat does it for you despite your great care. Etc., etc...
  This is a useful and appropriate application of induction. Stop being a dick about it.
  
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56. Re:The distinction is minor by JDAustin · 2013-11-21 09:24 · Score: 1
  
  Not possible. While both Sprint and Verizon are CDMA devices, the run on different frequencies.
  BTW, the Palm chargers (the cylinder looking ones) are some of the best out there when it comes to the electricity. The have very little noise and ripple on the current.
57. Re:The distinction is minor by hypergreatthing · 2013-11-21 09:24 · Score: 1
  
  Untrue. From someone who's taken a look at a few dozen devices with the same issue, it's not the spring that's the problem. Each usb female socket is basically a sheet metal shell that's locked together by overlapping metal. There is no reinforcement of that shell. Every single time after a year of constantly plugging in the cable, the force of doing so bends the metal shell allowing the cable to have some wiggle room. That wiggle room allows all cables regardless of the springs to slip and not connect properly.
  Take a look at any older smartphone. Plug in the newest, shiniest usb cable. Any slightly bent female shells will cause you to have an intermittent connection for both power and data.
58. Re:The distinction is minor by redback · 2013-11-21 09:33 · Score: 1
  
  yeah, except they seem to break much easier than miniusb
59. Re:The distinction is minor by MondoGordo · 2013-11-21 09:49 · Score: 1
  
  except that it still has a microUSB port so ... not being able to charge it anywhere else is not an issue. ?
60. Re:The distinction is minor by HornWumpus · 2013-11-21 09:49 · Score: 1
  
  I can answer the defy underwater.
  A newer phone with similar features is the Galaxy S4 Active.
  These phones are like toughbooks. You eventually stop waiting for it to break and just buy a new one. Just haven't gotten there yet.
  
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61. Re:The distinction is minor by Ozymandias_KoK · 2013-11-21 09:49 · Score: 1
  
  Water resistant, maybe. If it was waterproof you wouldn't have had to worry about trying to dry it out for almost a week.
62. Re:The distinction is minor by MondoGordo · 2013-11-21 09:52 · Score: 1
  
  No i really don't want a brick in my pocket... i'll be better off when tiny batteries last weeks or ambient EM field chargers are built into phones or charge times are reduced to seconds or minutes instead of hours. Until then I'll manage with near field charging solutions. thanks,
63. Re:The distinction is minor by MondoGordo · 2013-11-21 09:59 · Score: 1
  
  hasn't everyone ?
64. Re:The distinction is minor by xaxa · 2013-11-21 10:04 · Score: 2
  
  No, he means e.g.
  He's providing a concrete example, not a hypothetical result.
  e.g. is Latin exempli gratia, "for the sake of example".
  i.e. is Latin id est, "that is".
  He should have used i.e..
65. Re:The distinction is minor by MondoGordo · 2013-11-21 10:04 · Score: 1
  
  I think this is not possible .... From what i can glean from various sources is that it's a hardware limitation ... VZW doesn't yet use any of the bands supported by the N5 .. although there is a rumor that they will be expanding into spectrum usable by the N5 early in 2014. whether that means it will be supported then is a good question, but at least it's a possibility
66. Re:The distinction is minor by petteyg359 · 2013-11-21 10:11 · Score: 1
  
  If you're classifying anything greater than 5 ounces as a brick, then you're probably taking a huge risk by exerting whatever force is necessary to get your words onto my screen, whether that's typing or moving your jaw for a speech-to-text program.
67. Re:The distinction is minor by AmiMoJo · 2013-11-21 11:10 · Score: 1
  
  Here's a "genuine" use for you. I use my phone in my car for traffic, navigation and audio. I can use Bluetooth for sound but need to plug the charger in. With a wireless charger for my phone I could just popit iinto the dock and go
  
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68. Re:The distinction is minor by AmiMoJo · 2013-11-21 11:15 · Score: 1
  
  That's what wireless charging gives you. Once wireless chargers are everywhere, built into your car's dashboard and on every desk, you will be able to charge your phone at every opportunity with no additional inconvenience.
  
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69. Re:The distinction is minor by AmiMoJo · 2013-11-21 11:17 · Score: 1
  
  Phones are generally not allowed in baths (onsen), especially if they have cameras.
  
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70. Re:The distinction is minor by symbolset · 2013-11-21 11:24 · Score: 1
  
  I have 5 dead Android tablets. 4 are dead because of charging port abuse. Kids aren't particularly mindful of good care of delicate electronics. So wireless charging will definitely help prolong the life of the next set of tablets.
  
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71. Re:The distinction is minor by symbolset · 2013-11-21 11:34 · Score: 1
  
  Both are pocket sized and plug into the same USB power supply. Why do people try so hard to say "new is bad"?
  
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72. Re:The distinction is minor by Skythe · 2013-11-21 11:51 · Score: 1
  
  Have had the charging port wear out twice on my Galaxy Nexus. Though I'd boil that down to bad hardware design and certainly wouldn't be reflected in my Nexus 5.
73. Re: The distinction is minor by shiruba1067 · 2013-11-21 12:19 · Score: 1
  
  You mean like my docomo Sony XPERIA z? The microphone is somehow waterproof. It doors have ports for headphone, usb, and sim card, but they are recessed and usually covered by flaps that blend into the body design. It's obvious that they are four emergency use. The built in speaker and microphone work just fine for phone calls and are somehow waterproof, but I use a Bluetooth headset for listening to music.
74. Re:The distinction is minor by interkin3tic · 2013-11-21 12:35 · Score: 1
  
  I'm guessing it's more due to their fear of being caught outside in the rain. Which borders on pathological.
75. Re:The distinction is minor by TheRecklessWanderer · 2013-11-21 12:39 · Score: 1
  
  I bought a Nexus 4 approx. 2 months ago, and one of the options was wireless charging. I jumped on it. Cost 60 bucks. It works well, the only issue is that I bought a 3rd party case for the phone, and the charger which is shaped like a ball with 2 slides taken out of it such that there are 2 surfaces with different angles, allows the phone to slide off the charger. It usually happens slowly, taking an hour or two. Taking the phone out of the case stops the problem. My solution is to put the phone on the charger at an angle, so that the phone doesn't like down. Not a google problem, but a problem all the same. Aside from that it charges well
  
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76. Re:The distinction is minor by updatelee · 2013-11-21 13:04 · Score: 1
  
  Im replacing my galaxy note with the nexus 5 for this reason, I have to have it tilted slightly up or it wont charge. It wont even stay in if I lift the phone up, falls right out.
  UDL
77. Re:The distinction is minor by JamieIanMacgregor · 2013-11-21 13:43 · Score: 1
  
  This: it makes me cringe every time I see someone plugging in a cable with enough force to insert a nail into hardwood.
78. Re:The distinction is minor by uvajed_ekil · 2013-11-21 15:01 · Score: 1
  
  If my LG G2x was capable of wireless charging then the housing around the port might not be cracked today, and it might charge without me having to wedge it under something so the cord stays in just the right position. Of course I retired that phone in favor of an Optimus G anyway, but it was a pain for a while. I never thought wireless charging was more than a gimmick but now I'm having similar trouble with a tablet. It may not be a hug convenience or a big time saver, but it is a way to eliminate one potential source of wear and tear, so there is a distinction, however slight in the minds of some.
  
  I won't buy my next mobile device based on wireless charging capabilities or lack thereof, but I will certainly use it if the device I choose offers it (probably a Nexus 5 in a few months, coincidentally).
  
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79. Re:The distinction is minor by uvajed_ekil · 2013-11-21 15:06 · Score: 1
  
  It isn't the reason I stopped using a particular LG phone (the reason was ultimately LG's refusal to update us to ICS or provide us with the necessary code to do it ourselves), but it sure was a major inconvenience until I retired it. And it wasn't so much worn out as made finicky by a small crack in the surrounding housing that wouldn't stay glued, a weak point of which I know I was not the only victim.
  
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80. Re:The distinction is minor by Lothsahn · 2013-11-21 16:55 · Score: 1
  
  Had mine repaired here and it's been working great since.
  
  There's a design defect with the fire, IMO. I've not have nearly that problem with my other devices, and my phone is 5-6 years old.
  
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81. Re:The distinction is minor by Lothsahn · 2013-11-21 16:56 · Score: 1
  
  Had mine repaired here and it's been working great since.
  
  There's a design defect with the fire, IMO. I've not have nearly that problem with my other devices, and my phone is 5-6 years old.
  
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82. Re:The distinction is minor by Golden_Rider · 2013-11-21 16:59 · Score: 1
  
  Well, you have the power cable to the wireless charger :-)
  I use the wireless charger for my Galaxy S4, and while it is nice to just put the phone onto the charger, I still have to plug in the CHARGER every time (since I do not want to leave the charger powered and in standby forever). So wireless charging is kinda pointless except for the "cool" factor, unless you do not mind wasting electricity.
83. Re:The distinction is minor by pepty · 2013-11-21 19:11 · Score: 1
  
  The MagSafe patent will expire in 2025: your teenager will be free to yank on cables all they want.
84. Re:The distinction is minor by bemymonkey · 2013-11-21 19:26 · Score: 2
  
  Do you use your phone before going to sleep? Connecting it to a loose charger cable on the nightstand in the semi-dark while I'm half asleep from the eBook I was just reading on the phone is pretty much a nightmare. I can't wait to get a phone that supports Qi charging...
85. Re:The distinction is minor by Neil+Boekend · 2013-11-21 19:54 · Score: 1
  
  Not true. You can get waterproof microphones and speakers, else my Galaxy S4 Active would not exist.
  To be fair, I don't consider the phone to be waterproof as the waterproof seal depends on a cover over the USB port (which is crappy designed, is defeated by some sand and wears with the twice a day charging that the device needs). They could have used a gold plated waterproof USB port.
  That means that it's not a seal but a cop out. If there gets water in the phone, they can claim that the customer did not close the seal properly because the customer can't prove that that's not true. That's how Motorola does it and that will be how Samsung does it.
  
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86. Re:The distinction is minor by Neil+Boekend · 2013-11-21 20:08 · Score: 1
  
  Nope. The micro SD slot can be nicely located with the SIM card beneath the replaceable battery under the back cover that has it's own seal. See the Galaxy S4 Active. As you are not likely to access these parts twice a day you can take care in cleaning it properly before closing it.
  An even better solution would be to make the battery slot separate from the phone. If the user fails to seal the battery slot properly the phone is protected by a secondary seal. The phone will shut down if water gets to the battery because that would short the battery, of course, but it will not be damaged. This would require short proof batteries and sealed battery/micro SD/SIM card slots. Short proof batteries are not a big deal, as batteries already have semi intelligent charge controllers. They could shut the output down beyond a set current draw (to be fair, I would be appalled if they didn't do that already, to prevent a software error blowing up the device in your hands).
  
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87. Re:The distinction is minor by worf_mo · 2013-11-22 00:16 · Score: 1
  
  Probably some swimming "residue" in the toilet clogged your phone's USB port, speaker and microphone instantaneously, actively hindering the water from getting into the device.
88. Re:The distinction is minor by knewter · 2013-11-22 01:09 · Score: 1
  
  My wife somehow does...something...to every one of her devices that results in the connection for the charger being exceedingly fiddly. I don't know if she just applies massive pressure to the USB input or what, but the end result is her complaining to me very frequently about how her electronics don't work like they ought to (and for some reason, mentioning that none of mine, which are the exact same model, exhibit this flaw that every one of her devices exhibits, doesn't make her think I've made a valid point and instead gets me in trouble).
  This will save me at least an hour of hearing about something I can't fix each week. I'll gladly pay for that :)
  
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89. Re:The distinction is minor by Jmc23 · 2013-11-22 02:42 · Score: 1
  
  You've obviously never owned an n900!
  
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90. Re:The distinction is minor by Jmc23 · 2013-11-22 02:44 · Score: 1
  
  um, you know that's a simple soldering fix eh?
  Fricken wasteful people.
  
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91. Re:The distinction is minor by Shirley+Marquez · 2013-11-22 05:59 · Score: 1
  
  The USB port on the original Nexus 7 is indeed a weak point of the hardware. And the replacement part to fix it is absurdly expensive (over $50). That model doesn't have wireless charging but a dock that uses pins on the tablet body is available, though Google no longer sells them directly.
  I don't know whether it's a problem on the updated Nexus 7. They haven't been in the wild long enough to have sufficient history.
92. Re:The distinction is minor by symbolset · 2013-11-22 06:10 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah I know, and have soldered them before. The kids are so violent with the cables they have broken the sockets themselves not just the solder. I am still saving them for robotics projects and whatnot where the industrial design is not so tough. I could order the socket components but am unlikely to get the right one. These older tablets were pretty low end anyway, and the Nexus 7 is so cheap... The kids will be much happier with a modern tablet.
  
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93. Re:The distinction is minor by mcgrew · 2013-11-22 06:16 · Score: 1
  
  Well, with phones mine usually get stolen, lost, or broken and most folks don't keep phones but a year or two. But I'm having that issue with my 4 year old notebook; it's getting so plugging it in you have to fiddle with it to get the light to come on.
  I wish it would have come with a wireless charger.
  OTOH it's nice to be able to take a USB cord with me and charge my phone from the desktop's USB port while I listen to music on it. But wireless would reduce the pluggings and unpluggings.
  
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94. Re:The distinction is minor by Jmc23 · 2013-11-22 06:28 · Score: 1
  
  Your kids sound like they need a good parenting lesson in responsibility than another tablet.
  No. Not all children are like yours, they're pretty much as responsible as you raise them, i.e., the example you give not the false words out of your mouth.
  
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95. Re:The distinction is minor by symbolset · 2013-11-22 07:13 · Score: 1
  
  They are very young to be handling delicate electronics. I can teach them fear of harming delicate technology later. Or teach them the benefit of preferring robust technology instead.
  
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96. Re: The distinction is minor by daisybelle · 2013-11-22 10:04 · Score: 1
  
  This was what finally made my Palm Treo unusable. And wrenching the thin connection to my SGS2 about in my sleep destroyed that charger. I think wireless charging has a place in my world.
  
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97. Re:The distinction is minor by mcgrew · 2013-11-22 11:58 · Score: 1
  
  Difficult to get speakers and microphone sealed up.
  Kyocera managed to do it with the Edge Hydro. Will withstand being a meter underwater for an hour, they claim. And it still has a USB port and headphone jack, I have no idea how they pulled THAT one off.
  
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98. Re:The distinction is minor by MikeBabcock · 2013-11-23 03:23 · Score: 1
  
  As someone else stated, MicroSD slots don't have to be external.
  
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99. Re:The distinction is minor by rpstrong · 2013-11-23 11:46 · Score: 1
  
  Of course you meant to say "an example."
Ahead by choice by SuperKendall · 2013-11-21 05:56 · Score: 1

The charger operates using the Qi standard, which seems to be ahead of rival Powermat."
Wouldn't that be true by the simple fact of Google choosing them?
I had not seen anything indicating either standard having a leg up beforehand, but it would be nice to back up an assertion like that with a link to some evidence.

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Giving it ANOTHER good try? by sitkill · 2013-11-21 05:56 · Score: 4, Informative

Google already sold a wireless charger for their Nexus 4 phones:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_4_Wireless_Charger?id=nexus_4_wireless_charger&hl=en
I own one, works fine, and I think it also works with the new Nexus 5's as it's using the Qi standard already.
1. Re:Giving it ANOTHER good try? by Won+Ton+Hammer · 2013-11-21 06:21 · Score: 1
  
  Sadly no longer for sale so this new one is your only official option now.
2. Re:Giving it ANOTHER good try? by compro01 · 2013-11-21 06:29 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  I'm not sitkill, but I use a Qi charger (unbranded Chinese-made charging pad) with my Galaxy S3 (with a Keedox Qi receiver) though my lifeproof case and it works nicely.
  It won't work through my otterbox armour case though. There's just too much distance between the back of the phone and the back of the case.
  I haven't tried it with any other cases.
  
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3. Re: Giving it ANOTHER good try? by popsensation · 2013-11-21 07:11 · Score: 1
  
  Thee last nexus wifi charger sucked because it was tilted and the phone would slide off. Maybe Google will (like apple) allow me to exchange the faulty device for a working one. Hahahajahahhh hahaha. Right
4. Re:Giving it ANOTHER good try? by ebob · 2013-11-21 07:47 · Score: 1
  
  Not sure why a new charger from Google is big news. In addition to the original Google 'Orb' charger, the Verizon WCP-300, which is made by LG (who make the Nexus 4 and 5) works great. I've had one of those for months and like it a lot.
  Wireless charging is very handy because I can just plop the phone down on it any time I'm at my desk. Without it I'd hesitate before using the normal charging cable, just to save fiddling with it and the wear and tear on the connector. And the phone stays more fully charged that way.
  
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5. Re:Giving it ANOTHER good try? by MikeBabcock · 2013-11-21 08:02 · Score: 1
  
  I've E-mailed Otterbox a couple times about including a Qi charging receiver in their cases with a little jack to plug into the standard micro-usb charging port on the phone in question. It would be incredibly handy.
  
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6. Re:Giving it ANOTHER good try? by compro01 · 2013-11-21 09:24 · Score: 1
  
  According to others' reports, Qi works just fine through Otterbox's lesser cases (Defender/Commuter), or at least it does with the S3/S4, just the Armour's design with the phone "forward" in the case and the thick silicone and plastic backplate puts it out of range.
  
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7. Re:Giving it ANOTHER good try? by anon+mouse-cow-aard · 2013-11-21 12:18 · Score: 1
  
  yup. nexus 5 works fine on a nexus 4 qi port, except that on the nexus4 the coil works almost anywhere on the phone, but on the nexus 5 you have to be nearer the centre. I'm using both while waiting for the new charger for my 5.
8. Re:Giving it ANOTHER good try? by balbus000 · 2013-11-22 07:38 · Score: 1
  
  I have one of these I bought for my Nexus 4. It worked horribly since the back of the Nexus 4 is glass, and would slide off the angled charger after a few minutes. I completely stopped using it after a couple of weeks of trying to get it to work well.
  However, I got a Nexus 5 recently, and since it doesn't have the glass back, I decided to test out the wireless charger again. It works much better, although I really wish Google would allow people to trade in their old wireless chargers for the new design.
$17 chargers elsewhere by FunkyELF · 2013-11-21 05:57 · Score: 3, Informative

I just ordered 5 wireless chargers for a grand total of $85 as stocking stuffers for my family members with Nexus 4's and Nexus 5's.
I think they came from China since they're just being delivered today. Reviews of them on newegg were good. We'll see.
I just can't see spending $50 on a charger unless its the size of a mousepad and can charge multiple thins.
1. Re:$17 chargers elsewhere by mspohr · 2013-11-21 06:16 · Score: 2
  
  I have the cheap Chinese QI chargers and they work great.
  They don't have the magnetic positioning so you do have to take a little more care in setting it down but they give a little beep when connected so it's easy.
  
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2. Re:$17 chargers elsewhere by PhrostyMcByte · 2013-11-21 08:07 · Score: 2
  
  AT&T stores have a deal going where you can get a Nokia Qi charger for $25, or three for $50. I picked up the three. One for my desk at work, one for my desk at home, and one for my nightstand.
  Not having to plug anything in is awesome. They're compatible with all the other Qi devices, including the new Nexus ones. Highly recommend.
3. Re:$17 chargers elsewhere by Anomalyst · 2013-11-22 05:50 · Score: 1
  
  > charge multiple thins mmmmmmmmmm electric gir scout cookles.
  
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4. Re:$17 chargers elsewhere by Anomalyst · 2013-11-22 05:52 · Score: 1
  
  look, I see a gir over there! Good thing I didnt make a snarky comment about the preview button being there for a reason
  
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Palm Pre by JDAustin · 2013-11-21 05:58 · Score: 1

I had a Palm Pre (and have a Touchpad running CM10) and thats the one thing I really miss on my Samsung devices. I'm surprised its taken so long for this to catch on with other devices.
1. Re:Palm Pre by compro01 · 2013-11-21 06:37 · Score: 1
  
  What Samsung device? You can toss a Qi receiver into a S3 or S4 (both have contacts for the receiver, but don't include it for whatever reason) for $20 or less.
  
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Re:Wireless power standards by Chameleon+Man · 2013-11-21 05:58 · Score: 1

That is beyond true in the workplace involving "processes"
Why is this an article? by Chameleon+Man · 2013-11-21 06:01 · Score: 1

There is nothing new about Google offering a wireless charger on their play store. This article is the equivalent of someone reporting that Amazon sells LED light bulbs.
Bug in 4.2 and 4.3 makes wireless charging useless by Anonymous Coward · 2013-11-21 06:02 · Score: 1

I have a nexus 4. There is a wakelock bug that makes wireless charging for a number of these devices completely useless. Basically, the phone won't go into deep sleep mode while it's on the charger, so it burns just as much power as it gets from the charger.
See here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=52034
I could, I guess, reboot my phone every time I lifted it off the wireless charger, but that's stupid.
I've got a Qi charger by hamjudo · 2013-11-21 06:10 · Score: 1
It works even if my Nexus 5 is more than 5 mm above the charging pad. That is many orders of magnitude less than the range for most wireless communication technologies.
The useful features are
1. no connector to wear out,
2. alignment is simple.
3. The USB/thinport connector is available for other uses. (More of a theoretical benefit, as I don't use the USB port for anything, but I could if I wanted to. I've got the cable, I could even plug in an SD card reader.)
Re:Bug in 4.2 and 4.3 makes wireless charging usel by Servaas · 2013-11-21 06:11 · Score: 1

Kit Kat is suppose to fix that. Google has begun distributing it over the air.
Re:If we had not ignored telsa by HornWumpus · 2013-11-21 06:21 · Score: 1

Tesla, as brilliant as he was, was wrong about wireless power transmission (and a bunch of other things at the end of his life).
Maxwell's equations are settled science. You ether have unacceptable efficiencies, impractical antennas or zero range.

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Except for that previous Wireless Nexus Charger... by mathimus1863 · 2013-11-21 06:29 · Score: 2

Yeah, they had one before. I got it for my Nexus 4 six months ago. But there's a reason it got 1-2 stars: it's angled and doesn't hold the phone:

http://www.amazon.com/Google-Nexus-Wireless-Charger/dp/B00BGSPIP2

I almost threw it out but then discovered this 3D printed adapter that actually fixed all of its flaws. It now works great, and it charges the phone fast when plugged into the wall! But since most people don't have a 3D printer, it makes sense they'd want to sweep the memory of that one under the carpet.
Other Qi chargers should work with the Nexus 5 by hawguy · 2013-11-21 06:37 · Score: 1

I bought a Nokia Qi charger cheap (~$20) a few months ago, but it didn't work well with my Nexus 4 - it charged it a few times, but mostly it would cycle between charge/no charge every few seconds. However, the Nokia charger works perfectly with my Nexus 5, I've been using it nightly for the past few weeks.
Re:Except for that previous Wireless Nexus Charger by jo_ham · 2013-11-21 06:43 · Score: 1

That is a hilariously poorly designed charging device. What were they thinking when they stamped that one "ready for sale"? The one thing it has to do is support the phone while it charges and it simply... doesn't.
The 3D printed accessory is a neat solution though.
What ever happened to pogo port charging? by hawguy · 2013-11-21 06:50 · Score: 4, Interesting

I don't really need wireless charging, I'd be happy to drop my phone into a dock with pogo port pins to allow easy charging without connecting a cable (and without wiggling the phone to get it to seat on a microUSB connector in the bottom of a dock). Seems like a cheaper and easier solution than wireless charging.
Why didn't more phones use that simple technology? I never did find a compatible dock for my CDMA Galaxy Nexus.
low frequency RF =~ induction by raymorris · 2013-11-21 06:54 · Score: 1

>charging would have to be via beamed RF energy instead of magnetic induction.
At low frequencies or short distances they are almost the same thing. "Near field" is within about a wavelength or two, which at 30 Mhz is about 10 meters. So there's not really a hard cut off between induction and RF, more of a large gray area where you can say "this range generally behaves more like an inductor". There's no reason an "inductive" charger can't be tuned for charging devices within six to ten feet - anywhere in the room.
1. Re:low frequency RF =~ induction by Holi · 2013-11-21 07:59 · Score: 1
  
  Other then the inverse square law no.
  
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Re:If we had not ignored telsa by RobertLTux · 2013-11-21 07:09 · Score: 1

except where he actually DID some intra city trials for wireless power.
i do think he cheated when he was using THE PLANET as a ground plane

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Power efficiency by __aaqvdr516 · 2013-11-21 07:13 · Score: 4, Informative

I've checked a few places and it seems as though you can expect a 70% power efficiency with this type of inductive charger. Some of the higher end models reach as much as 85%.
It strikes me as odd that in a time where we want as much energy efficiency as possible, we'd push towards something much less efficient with the potential to be so widespread.
Sources:
http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/technology/total-energy-consumption.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging
1. Re:Power efficiency by hawguy · 2013-11-21 08:06 · Score: 2
  
  I've checked a few places and it seems as though you can expect a 70% power efficiency with this type of inductive charger. Some of the higher end models reach as much as 85%.
  It strikes me as odd that in a time where we want as much energy efficiency as possible, we'd push towards something much less efficient with the potential to be so widespread.
  Sources:
  http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/technology/total-energy-consumption.html
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging
  A phone battery is so small that it's not really that much power -- throwing away 30% of a 3.7V 2300mAh battery's capacity is 2.5 watt-hours, or just under a killowatt-hour in a year's time if you charge your battery daily - less than 15 cents for most people.
  Seems like a small price to pay for the convenience. if it saves just 1 second/day in a year's time, it will have saved around 6 minutes/year, or $1 worth of labor for someone that earns $10/hour.
  If you want to make up for it, walk or bike instead of driving - gasoline contains around 35KWh of energy per gallon, so if you bike or walk for 1 mile instead of driving, you'll have saved an entire year's worth of wasted power from a wireless charger.
2. Re:Power efficiency by tconnell · 2013-11-21 09:14 · Score: 1
  
  This. The thought of losing 15-30 percent on small devices is one thing, but when they started talking about doing this in electric cars and other high power devices, it just made me cringe.
  
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3. Re:Power efficiency by uvajed_ekil · 2013-11-21 15:12 · Score: 1
  
  I'll give you a dollar to cover the efficiency you lose charging your phone over the course of a year, and you can keep the change.
  
  As this is a new-ish consumer technology I fully expect the 70% figure you mention to change significantly in the near future.
  
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4. Re:Power efficiency by The_Noid · 2013-11-21 21:44 · Score: 1
  
  If everybody on the planet consumes 1 hundredths of a percent more power... then we'll globally use 0.0001% more power.
  If something is insignificant on an individual level, then even if you scale it up to everybody it's still insignificant.
Re:What ever happened to pogo port charging? by rotaryexpress · 2013-11-21 07:46 · Score: 1

CDMA Galaxy Nexus...
All you had to do was get the GSM GNex car dock and so a VERY slight modification with a utility knife and then it works perfectly. Took me about 10 minutes...7 of those where watching a howto on Youtube.
Re:Wireless Charging by hawguy · 2013-11-21 08:29 · Score: 1

I had a touchstone for my palm pre. It worked. BUT I never use it. It's just an extra thing to carry around with your phone if you go somewhere. And this one added utility to the phone; propped it up and displayed things. These new ones are just the same problem. Unless someone like Amazon put them all over the place, I don't see how it's more convenient than carrying cables.
Why wouldn't you just leave the charger at your home or office where you do most of your charging?
I carry a separate USB charger in my backpack for use on the go, I never bring my home charger with me. Is it common to have only a single charger that you use at home and carry around with you when you go out?
Re:What ever happened to pogo port charging? by chihowa · 2013-11-21 08:31 · Score: 2

The pogo pin docks seemed like a great idea, but they were inexplicably expensive. They sold for $90, or more than a quarter of the cost of the entire phone. I ended up buying some pogo pins from mouser and making my own dock for $5 (it's only that much because you have to do some signalling through the third pin with a uC to get it to charge at a higher rate).

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I've been charging my nexes 7 wirelessly for by jerryjnormandin · 2013-11-21 08:32 · Score: 1

several months now. The LG wireless charger pad works fine with the Nexus 7.
Great Convenience by JakFrost · 2013-11-21 08:56 · Score: 1

I've been using the Qi charger pad below and it works great. It solved the problem of plugging the Google Nexus 7 Gen2 into a cable then having to remember to turn the plug upside down for the Kindle Paperwhite since the MicroUSB socket is installed backwards on it.
Also my son can take the tablet off the charger and put it back on without having to fiddle with plugging the cable in since he's too young to do that yet. Kids friendly!
DigiYes Ultra-thin Black QI Wireless Charger Compatible with LG Google Nexus 4 / Optimus Vu II / Nokia Lumia 920 - Amazon Prime - $28.38
if it were radiative, and omnidirectional by raymorris · 2013-11-21 08:57 · Score: 1

Inverse square would apply if it were radiative (far field) and omnidirectional.
Inductively coupled coils that are also harmonically tuned get the best of both inductive and radiative fields.
Re:If we had not ignored telsa by HornWumpus · 2013-11-21 09:08 · Score: 3, Interesting

That wasn't one of the times. 1 or 2% efficiency for power transmission is unacceptable. Pneumatic power was better then that. Whale oil lamps were better then that.
He could never have proven it. Period. It did not work in a practical sense. It can never work.
You can beam power, if you build big fucking antennas at both ends.
If you could build a magic transmitter that didn't radiate into the sky, you'd still lose intensity with the square of distance. Field intensities strong enough to power a house could also start fires on things like aluminum window frames.

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WIFI Analogy anyone? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-11-21 09:16 · Score: 1

I suppose most of the people bitching about wireless charging are also connecting their devices by means of Ethernet cables ...
Skepticism by jgotts · 2013-11-21 09:53 · Score: 1

There is some skepticism of wireless charging, so I will address all of it with some facts and personal experience.
In my opinion, the micro USB port was not designed with smartphones in mind.
With heavy use (such as shooting and uploading video) I can completely drain my Samsung Galaxy S III from 100% to 0% in about 90 minutes. Unless less strenuous use such as gameplay I can easily drain my phone in 3 or 4 hours. With the lightest of use and having a number of useful apps installed on my phone doing things in the background the battery never lasts more than 12 hours. With the first scenario, I have no way to charge my phone and it is out of commission in an hour or two (this is frustrating enough that I might buy a second battery) but to make the second and third scenarios feasible I leave my phone plugged into a charging port continuously. Scenario 4, less common but common enough, is that I can't use Waze the GPS app without being plugged into my car's cigarette lighter unless the trip is under an hour. But if I use the GPS during my trip without being plugged in, I arrive with a completely drained phone. That is not acceptable.
So instead of the charging port being used once every couple of days with the phone more or less stationary (like the designers of micro USB probably intended), most people including myself have the phone plugged in via the charging port continuously, always putting a strain on the connector.
What that means for me is that my phone was dead after 9 months of heavy use. The connector became bent internally. No micro USB cable would fit anymore, and I was in Detroit with only an approximate idea of how to get home with a dead phone. After a while of trying to work the cables I had on hand in, the motherboard cracked.
If you visit your smartphone insurance site, you'll see a failed charging port as one of the reasons why you're submitting a claim, right under lost and stolen. Essentially micro USB is too fragile for this type of application, and Apple and your insurance company know this.
Luckily I didn't have to go through my insurance and I got a new phone under warranty. The first thing I did was buy a Qi module to place inside the phone. Qi charging isn't feasible in the car. It's most feasible at work, so roughly 1/3 of the time I'm wirelessly charging. I expect the port on this new phone to last roughly 1/3 longer, or around 1 year.
Clearly, Samsung needs to figure out how to make the micro USB charging port more robust but Qi will help you until that happens.
1. Re:Skepticism by hawguy · 2013-11-21 10:43 · Score: 1
  
  In my opinion, the micro USB port was not designed with smartphones in mind.
  The Micro-USB connector was designed for 10,000 connect cycles. Perhaps weak support of the connector inside the phone is to blame for so many failed phone USB ports because the connector itself should stand up to years of use. For comparison, Mini-USB is rated for 5,000 cycles, and the standard USB connector is rated for 1500 cycles.
Re:Wireless Charging by foobar+bazbot · 2013-11-21 10:09 · Score: 1

I had a touchstone for my palm pre. It worked. BUT I never use it. It's just an extra thing to carry around with your phone if you go somewhere. And this one added utility to the phone; propped it up and displayed things. These new ones are just the same problem. Unless someone like Amazon put them all over the place, I don't see how it's more convenient than carrying cables.
Why wouldn't you just leave the charger at your home or office where you do most of your charging?
I carry a separate USB charger in my backpack for use on the go, I never bring my home charger with me. Is it common to have only a single charger that you use at home and carry around with you when you go out?
Among chronic cheapskates, it is -- the phone only came with one charger, and a second one is ten whole dollars! Otherwise, I don't think so.
I certainly didn't tote a touchstone with me everywhere after I hacked a Pre inductive charging kit into my N900 -- I had a touchstone on the nightstand at home, another one on my desk at work, and packed the original micro-USB charger whenever I felt the need to carry one around. (I used an extended battery, so I really didn't need to charge it often.) At least until the micro-USB port broke and the inductive-charging was the only option working (at which point I was very glad to have it).
yay ... by nblender · 2013-11-21 10:54 · Score: 1

So my phone can finally have what my toothbrush has had for 10 years?
Google Nexus Gets [New] Wireless Charger by Woadan · 2013-11-21 11:09 · Score: 1

I paid for the original qi nexus charger, about $70 or so. As others have pointed out, it kinda sucked due to not being flat.

I bought another qi charger when I ordered my Nexus 5. his is at Amazon for $30, and may be less expensive at other places:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_details_o08_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It works with the Nexus 4, Nexus 5, and Nexus 7 FHD/2013. I believe it would also work with the nexus 10. Charges up good, but it is not fast.

But Google's latest is not their first, so somebody missed something with the title. (Hence my updated one.)

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Re:What ever happened to pogo port charging? by AmiMoJo · 2013-11-21 11:22 · Score: 1

Because no-one can agree where the pogo pins should go, and it would be impossible to create a universal dock that fits any phone and guides it into place.
Wireless charging fixes all that. Any shape device will work.

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Re:What ever happened to pogo port charging? by hawguy · 2013-11-21 11:37 · Score: 1

Because no-one can agree where the pogo pins should go, and it would be impossible to create a universal dock that fits any phone and guides it into place.
Wireless charging fixes all that. Any shape device will work.
I think a universal charger would be trivial to design as long as the contacts themselves are a standard width apart. Just need an adjustable guide on the sides of the charger to keep the phone lined up on the pins when you drop it in place.
I have a universal LiIon battery charger that works with all of my small LiIon batteries from cameras, cell phones, etc. It has an adjustable spring loaded guide along with movable pins that make contact with the battery. I use that when traveling so I don't have to carry along a separate charger for each device. Seems like the same concept could be adapted to a universal Pogo Pin charger if the phones were common.
The Dock itself could be a dumb plastic dock that is molded to be a custom fit for each phone, with a smart charger that plugs in the back making the dock super cheap to create.
Re:If we had not ignored telsa by uvajed_ekil · 2013-11-21 15:09 · Score: 1

Are you saying wireless chargers don't work, in which case you are wrong, or are just being an idiot without even trying to make a point? These are the only two options.

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Re:If we had not ignored telsa by HornWumpus · 2013-11-22 04:51 · Score: 1

Third option: You have very poor reading comprehension. Note: zero range.

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oblig bash by Anomalyst · 2013-11-22 05:48 · Score: 1

off course having a nokia also means W8, so much for "works well".

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your water heater uses 4800W to heat 50g water by electrosoccertux · 2013-11-22 07:03 · Score: 1

To put that in perspective, assuming you take a 15 minute shower at 2.5gpm, that takes 37gallons of water, or 3/4 a tank of water. That's 3600W, 3.6KWH, or 36 cents per shower.
Alternatively, for every shower, you could
-run your 100w incandescant light bulb for...36 hours
-or use a wireless charger to charge your phone and waste 30% of (2500mAh * ~3.7v so 10 watts) aka 30% * $0.001
-or watch your 65" DLP TV for 18 hours (200w)
-tell a green thumb to stuff it
I honestly don't mind the SEER requirements for rental units and new constructions (except that they only measure ability to cool inside temps from 80F, with 85F ambient outside temps-- e.g. practically ideal situation that never occurs in the summer), but before they started releasing mercury into the atmosphere with the mandatory CFLs that nobody is going to bother recycling, they should have made us use heat pump water heaters (transfers the heat to surrounding environment, just like your AC works in the summer/heater in the winter [assuming you're not on gas]).
Re:What ever happened to pogo port charging? by Anti-Social+Network · 2013-11-22 09:23 · Score: 1

I recently bought a Nexus 7 pogo dock and, while I don't understand the point of mono-sound-only output (not enough pins to carry stereo), it was only $30 ($40 at launch from what I've seen). Google has changed the interface such that the new Nexus 7 does not work with it; hopefully they fixed some of the issues. I don't understand why they have such trouble getting such a simple thing right, but it's not all been that expensive.

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Re:What ever happened to pogo port charging? by chihowa · 2013-11-22 11:16 · Score: 1

If it's the same interface as the Galaxy Nexus pogo port, it's not mono sound but S/PDIF. The Galaxy Nexus docks went for $90, so it's no surprise they never caught on.

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Summary obviously written by a man by Dabido · 2013-11-22 16:04 · Score: 1

Wireless charging has had little success so far (except for toothbrushes) ...

Many sex toys also charge that way!!!!

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as a user of them... by pjr.cc · 2013-11-25 09:28 · Score: 1

I got given a QI charger a little while ago... ended up loving it so much i bought a couple more and it has a number of advantages. Firstly for my phones i always end up with a fairly rugged case which makes it hard to find a dock that works, but even when I do find a workable dock its only real advantage is that it keeps the phone upright but its still "fiddly" (which gets slowly worse over time as the connector starts getting worn out)... Its rather hard to explain why the charger has been something i've come to love without videos/photos etc, but everyone i know who has one that works loves it...
Note the use of the term "works" here... a couple of people i've know who've had them hated them because they simply weren't a very good charger (took too long to charge), ironically the ones i ended up with are some of the cheapest but in terms of phone charging they are impressive (what used to take about 30 minutes now takes perhaps 40 as an example). Which leads me to say one last thing - they may seem almost irrelavent in terms of convenience but they are actually alot more convenient then they may first seem to be and they are also now so cheap they're easy to get a hold of.
just to be clear - i dont make, sell, hold patents, shares or make any money directly or indirectly from any form of wireless charging (afaik)...