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French Court Orders Search Engines, ISPs To Block Pirate Sites
rtoz sends word that a French court has ordered Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft to remove 16 unauthorized video streaming sites from their search results. Many ISPs were also ordered to block access to the sites. According to TorrentFreak,
"The court ruled that the film industry had clearly demonstrated that the sites in question are 'dedicated or virtually dedicated to the distribution of audiovisual works without the consent of their creators,' thus violating their copyrights. As a result the search services of Google, Microsoft, Yahoo and local company Orange are now under orders to 'take all necessary measures to prevent the occurrence on their services of any results referring to any of the pages' on these sites. Several ISPs – Orange, Free, Bouygues Télécom, SFR, Numéricable and Darty Télécom were also ordered to 'implement all appropriate means including blocking' to prevent access to the infringing sites."
who?
... while the old ones continues to operate with bypasses even a 12 year old can figure out.
People will find a way around, be it proxies, creating a new mesh internet that is less controlled by ISP's and more distributed, changing DNS names, IP addresses, etc... This will be an expencive and on going cat & mouse game for governments and ISP's.
The ruling is akin to a newspaper publishing locations of any illegal activity. Such as on Main and 5th people are selling their bodies or drugs. So stupid.
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Maybe if we had respectable copyright laws instead of this Infinity+1 BS.
But why bother when you can just purchase laws to suit your own monopoly.
Obama's legacy: (N)othing (S)ecure (A)nywhere and (T)error (S)imulation (A)dministration
Another ridiculous case where the courts attempt to stop a leak by putting a bucket under it; instead of turning off the water. Whether you agree or not with the operation of the sites is not valid in this argument. The entertainment companies can't stop the real problem so they are targeting anyone who makes it easier to find. Perhaps we should think bigger. Sue the entire US government for supporting the Internet because it helps people find search engines which offer routes to illegal content. Or perhaps bigger yet, sue copper manufacturers or OS development companies for without them there would be no reasonable computer access... Just a farce as far as I'm concerned, they can't win the real battle so they'll sabotage anyone they can get their hands on... the media industry needs to grow up.
there wouldn't be any piracy so maybe the search engines should just block everything to do with Music/Movie entertainment.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
I do think it would be hilarious if a search engine took down the search results, but maintained a "blocked by region" page, listing what country blocked what sites for what reasons. Hey, it's not in the search results, right?
So, we all know that these sites basicly ammounts to free advertising for their counterparts, right?
The industry believes (publicly atleast) that less piracy means more sales.
Numerous studies however have shown that less piracy means less sales.
So, by pirating we're actually supporting these bastards hell-bent on suing the crap out of us, the consumers.
Therefore, here is my idea; let's stop pirating. Let's stop enjoying mainstream media. Let's stop reccomending it, talking about it - unless it's free to download, of course. Then see how long Hollywood can keep it up.
Let's give them the nightmare they deserve, shall we?
systemd is not an init system. It's a GNU replacement.
Depending on how the court order is worded, I would respond to any blocked searches with "We're sorry, your search has been censored by [list of the guilty]".
It will come to every ISP on the planet. The curtain is falling. To monitor sexual thought, "national security", enforcement of eternally granted imaginary property, blasphemy, badthink, The Children, and any other damned thing they can think of, we are going for full metal police state. Ladies and gentlemen, we are in a prison and they are sounding the bell for final lockup. Tech solutions will be temporary at best because they will be declared illegal, or compromised, as soon as they pop up.
-toldyaso
In fact, the order is not as bad as some of the similar ones from the past. The original article is here (in French):
http://www.pcinpact.com/news/84642-la-justice-ordonne-blocage-galaxie-allostreaming.htm
The court ruled that the ISPs and search engines have 15 days to block the sites listed in the article and the order is in force for 12 months afterwards.
However, here is the kicker: the court ruled that the right holders are to pay the bill for the implementation of the blocks, the ISPs are not being asked to do it on their own dime. So carpet bombing the courts with poorly researched URLs to block could get really expensive ...
Instead of de-listing the sites, why not de-list the content?
We all know that as soon as one domain name is suppressed three others will spring up in its place, and we all know that 90% of all search engine links to any film are links to pirate copies, so the only way to be sure is to de-list all material relating to the movies in question.
No Publicity is Good Publicity, amirite?
The content industry needs to grow up ...not gonna happen. Look for example at the war on drugs that the US has undertaken for the last 70+years (yes kiddies, it was alive and well before 'Reefer Madness' in the 1960's), and they have spent billions of dollars and shot thousand of people, and sent millions to jail. And ideology wins. The people with the most money, want to keep making the most money, and so they buy congress people who make laws to their benefactors benefit. "Get me elected and copyright means forever." There is no end to this, not while they can still make money from you, even if it means taking the shirt off your back.
well, that blows. As a content creator with two documentaries on the piratebay, that pisses me off.
Political debates have me rolling my eyes so much I think I got optical whiplash. I should sue. - Foamy The Squirrel
... when they have to type in "thepiratebay.org" by hand into the address bar?
I mean, fuck what the frenchfucks?
dpstream is a different site and all the other urls seem to lead to fifostream?
so they just get another url on top of the dozen domain names they already got and it's business as usual...
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
I don't think it's so much about Facebook = the global water cooler" (what a terrible analogy! I'm sure Facebook corporate loves it...).
Some people are simply not going to pay to access your content, and you can shut down every channel possible (you can't, it's an impossible to achieve goal from a technology standpoint), and doing that is not going to convert these people into your customers. This is a "look at all the money we COULD be making IF ONLY these people were willing to pay for our product, which we are SURE they WOULD, if the only way to see the next episode of our reality TV series was to pay us for it!" argument. It's an invalid argument.
PARIS — In a bizarre victory for the French imaginary property industry, a French court has ruled that the deck chairs on the RMS Titanic are to be rearranged, effective immediately. In an effort to comply with the court's order, French and US authorities are negotiating the extradition of director/enthusiast James Cameron and his personal submarine — capable of both reaching the Titanic and rearranging her deckchairs via robotic claw — to the icy North Atlantic, where the ill-fated symbol of man's hubris sunk nearly one US-copyright-term-length ago.
Thank you, Edward Snowden.
"Arguments from authority are worthless." —Carl Sagan
What French courts declare has about as much meaning to me as what a Nigerian Court decides or maybe one of those courts from one of the strange Arab nations that most people don't even know exists. If the French Courts have emotional bowel gas who gives a hoot as long as they keep it to themselves.
Just remember that we may think that they are crazy for voting for socialists but the US did the exact same thing except in the disguise of "liberal".
www.wh.gov is a 'pirate site.'
So what'cha gon'a do? Shoot Obama-kun?
QED
To monitor sexual thought, "national security", enforcement of eternally granted imaginary property, blasphemy, badthink, The Children, and any other damned thing they can think of, we are going for full metal police state.
It's far far worse than that. These Orwellian 1984 police states may actually start busting honest citizens for swiping PHYSICAL GOODS from retail stores!
Pirates order ISP to block french sites and government.
What I see here is the ISPs working for free, and we the consumers ending up footing the bill. How long until they start doing self censorship or until the pan-european green dam? Will this post be considered "radical"?
what part of my comment makes you think I'm biased against France?
I lived there for awhile & loved it...what's the deal?
Thank you Dave Raggett