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Google Releases Dart 1.1

rjmarvin writes "Google released version 1.1 of its Dart open-source web programming language today, with new features and improved tools. The Dart Editor is updated with improved debugging, code implementation and more descriptive toolkits, and new UDP (User Datagram Protocol) and documentation support command-line and server-side Dart applications. Google also highlighted benchmarks such as the Richards benchmark, where Dart 1.1 is running 25% faster than JavaScript, as part of the larger competition between Dart and JavaScript in creating more complex applications in the web development space."

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  1. Broken Link by rjmarvin · · Score: 3, Informative

    The first link is broken, it loops back to the submission.

  2. If MS wrote dart for IE instead by Billly+Gates · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Everyone here would be screaming bloody murder and all MS is trying to sabotage the web again?! But if Google does it then it is cool and innovative.

    I am tired of chrome not implementing W3C standards without using the -webkit to get it to work properly. I am not the only once concerned it is the next IE 6 but thankfully there are only a few sites which only work well in Chrome.

    Mozilla Firefox is catching up and has the fasted DOM according to tomshardware and ASM.JS looks to be rather interesting. Unfortunately it is agaisn't Google's interest to support it as they want a closed ecosystem similar to IE 6 and activeX before it.

    I still use Chrome as Firefox is still behind in a few areas, but even IE is catching up and I find both IE and Firefox to use less ram than Chrome.

    1. Re:If MS wrote dart for IE instead by TopSpin · · Score: 5, Informative

      Is Dart an open language spec?

      The language spec is CCA 3 and ECMA standards tracked. The source code is BSD.

      Javascript was not an immaculate conception of Berners-Lee, Torvalds and Stallman. It was a product of Mozilla, blessed by nobody and foisted on the world via the defacto browser of the day. It is also more than flawed enough to justify some competition.

      The <script> tag has a "language" attribute for a reason, the curmudgeons of Slashdot notwithstanding.

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  3. better than javascript? by schneidafunk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My understanding is that Dart will not be really useful until it has native browser support on all browsers. I have not used it, so please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm curious to know if anyone who has experience with it can explain the benefits.

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    1. Re:better than javascript? by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Interesting

      dart does have a compile to javascript option.

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  4. Re:25%?? by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So how long till Google drops this project too? I'm all for new approaches to code that runs in the browser, but I'm a bit hesitant to invest in any technology stack from a company with such a history of dropping projects.

    Is there any sort of non-google dev community supporting Dart itself? Or is it completely dependent on Google at this point?

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  5. Re:25%?? by rlwhite · · Score: 5, Informative

    And it appears to be a misquote of TFA too: "Dart’s Javascript output continues to shine. Performance on the Richards benchmark is 25% better than the first release, making runtime comparable to the original JavaScript."

  6. Re:Time to Get Out by Kielistic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How is this insightful? Of course all new languages do the same thing as the old ones. They're all Turing complete! If you don't understand that then, yes, you probably should leave IT. And don't forget to program everything in Assembler! Kids these days and their C. Just a crutch.

  7. Re:25%?? by JavaTHut · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dart is really just the evolution of Google's GWT efforts, which they've been pretty good about supporting long-term and cultivating community contributions while also making a lengthy migration path to Dart

  8. Re:25%?? by MochaMan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dart team member here. The Dart project, like Chromium, is being run as a fully open source project accepting patches from Googlers and non-Googlers alike. We've also begun the ECMA Standardization process, meaning that like JavaScript we'll have a open standard that anyone can implement to. In terms of Dart users, here's a list of some. Hope that answers your questions!