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Candy Crush Maker King.com Has Trademarked 'Candy' For Games

An anonymous reader writes ""King.com, owners of Candy Crush, have received a U.S. trademark on the use of the word 'candy' in games and clothing. Forbes thinks it is overly broad. 'One would think Hasbro, the maker of that venerable children's board game (which does have video game versions) Candy Land, would already have this trademark sewed up.'" According to an update on the story, the company also has a EU trademark on the same term, but (however much comfort this is) is enforcing its claims only selectively, as against a game called All Candy Casino Slots – Jewel Craze Connect: Big Blast Mania Land.

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  1. No worries by Torp · · Score: 5, Funny

    One can always release Confection Made With Sugar And Often Flavoring And Filling Crush!

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    1. Re:No worries by Moryath · · Score: 2

      Time for a spate of lawsuits showing how commonly the word is used, and the throwing out of this candy-ass "trademark."

  2. Weak by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's a candy assed move. Government, please stop giving exclusive use of language to corporations. Some of us still use it for communication.

    1. Re:Weak by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Insightful

      not being able to use the word "candy" in the names for children's clothes and games affects your ability to communicate?

      Yes. How else am I supposed to describe my "Stealing Candy from Babies" game and line of clothing if I can't use the generic word candy? If they want exclusivity, they should stick to made up words like bonerific and tasticle.

    2. Re:Weak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah but the context is monopolies on words. We've no problems with made up words, the problems are people stopping us from using words that they didn't make up in the first place.

      Try to keep up.

    3. Re:Weak by sjames · · Score: 2

      Does anyone else here remember [deleted]land?

      ?

    4. Re:Weak by cellocgw · · Score: 2

      A trademark isn't just the word, it includes the color, the font, the background, etc. It's a recognizable use of a word.

      eg. I can make a soda called "ColaCola", no problem.

      Go ahead: try that. We'll wait. Then we'll send you flowers for your jail cell.
      There is this thing in trademark law about "insufficiently different" and "confusing the customer" .

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    5. Re:Weak by mechanicalturk · · Score: 3, Informative

      Do any of you actually know what a trademark is? A trademark isn't just the word, it includes the color, the font, the background, etc.

      Not necessarily. In this instance, as per the USPTO here: http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNum..., the trademark itself is indeed just the word CANDY. Relevant information is copied below:

      Mark Information

      Mark Literal Elements: CANDY

      Standard Character Claim: Yes. The mark consists of standard characters without claim to any particular font style, size, or color.

  3. Over-reaching by miles by MitchDev · · Score: 5, Insightful

    " U.S. trademark on the use of the word 'candy' in games and clothing."

    Yet another example of how broken the whole trademark/copyright/patent system is...

    1. Re:Over-reaching by miles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      " U.S. trademark on the use of the word 'candy' in games and clothing."

      Yet another example of how broken the whole trademark/copyright/patent system is...

      Don't worry. I plan on requesting a trademark on the word "patent" and let that infinite logic loop implode USPTO from within.

    2. Re:Over-reaching by miles by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Interesting

      On clothing too?
      Wow, I didn't know King.com had such a history in clothing already; http://www.candystorecollectiv...

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  4. This stuff is so stupid (and so is Forbes) by Huntr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The issue isn't that Hasbro should have already trademarked "candy", it's that "candy" shouldn't be able to be trademarked at all. It's a common freakin' word and should be able to be used in game titles and clothing w/o licensing.

    Burning copycat apps who are ripping off your game is a different issue, but this shouldn't be the solution.

    1. Re:This stuff is so stupid (and so is Forbes) by addie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Never mind that Candy Crush is itself a rip-off of Bejeweled and countless other identical games that came before it. The whole thing just reeks.

    2. Re:This stuff is so stupid (and so is Forbes) by Golddess · · Score: 2

      The issue isn't that Hasbro should have already trademarked "candy", it's that "candy" shouldn't be able to be trademarked at all.

      Expressing surprise that Hasbro did not already have the trademark, is not the same thing as saying "I think the word 'candy' should be allowed to be trademarked". I agree that "candy" should not be trademarked, but I can also still express surprise that Hasbro had not already done it.

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    3. Re:This stuff is so stupid (and so is Forbes) by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Informative

      Except that it is a common word for computer games: http://www.mobygames.com/searc...

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    4. Re:This stuff is so stupid (and so is Forbes) by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm sure it will get crushed, but it will cost someone a good deal of money. That's the issue. Even many bad patent and copyright claims can be defeated in court, but you have to have the money to get there. In part, this is the fault of morons working for trademark and patent offices, and in part it is due to lawyers, of which there are far too many, and far too few severe repercussions for abuse of process.

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    5. Re:This stuff is so stupid (and so is Forbes) by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 2

      I don't get it when people dis "copycat apps", claiming they are "ripping off" the original authors. Copied games are probably the purest form of the free-market in action; they provide alternate sources for the same (or similar) product, and they encourage competition.

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    6. Re:This stuff is so stupid (and so is Forbes) by TheLink · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Probably Hasbro is surprised as well and didn't think the system had become so ridiculous that they could have done that. After all there was some fuss over Windows in the past, the initial trademark application was rejected in 1993, but somehow they succeeded in 1995: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12...

      I personally believe that trademarks should not be allowed on common single words[1]. If they want to trademark single words they should make up their own words. Trademarking rare/unique word combinations or phrases should be allowed.

      [1] I'm not sure if Amazon qualifies as common, I think it's not such a common word in daily usage (other than specifically referring to Amazon corp's stuff). Whereas Candy is certainly not uncommon for games and clothes.

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    7. Re:This stuff is so stupid (and so is Forbes) by danlip · · Score: 2

      It's worth noting that Apple Records has sued Apple Computers several times over their trademark (or alleged breach of contract related to settlements of previous trademark suits).

  5. This makes no sense ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How can you copyright the word 'Candy' for trademark?

    Microsoft can only trademark "Windows" in their specific context, and clothing targeted towards 'Candy ravers' has been around a long time. Are you really claiming nobody can make a candy themed game??

    This is completely ridiculous, and whoever granted this must have been drunk, stupid, or paid off.

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    1. Re:This makes no sense ... by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is "computer games" more specific than "operating systems"?

      Is it reasonable to say nobody can have a computer game with the word 'candy' in its title?

      Me, I think not.

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  6. Re:Can Dee Crush? by Talderas · · Score: 2

    And now I'm having flashbacks to the episode of Always Sunny where Dee starts popping supplements in preparation for the boxing fight.

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  7. Of course. by Seumas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They don't want anyone to benefit from anything in their Bejeweled game.

  8. Geez, think that's a long enough name? by TangoMargarine · · Score: 4, Funny

    All Candy Casino Slots – Jewel Craze Connect: Big Blast Mania Land: Glorious Slots For Make Benefit Kazakhstan III: The Search For Curly's Gold!

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  9. Trademarks by vikingpower · · Score: 2

    are not sweet. They are not even biter. They are tasteless.

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    1. Re:Trademarks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      They are not even biter.

      Our group of survivors call it a walker.

  10. Candystand.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hope Candystand (1997) smacks them down a bit.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candystand

  11. Umm CandyLand by swamp+boy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The owners of CandyLand should sue them out of existence.

    1. Re:Umm CandyLand by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 2

      The owners of CandyLand should sue them out of existence.

      CandyLand was created by the Milton Bradley Company, which is now a wholly-owned subsidiary of... you guessed it! Hasbro, Inc.

  12. Re:What's the limit? by gstoddart · · Score: 2

    Way too much prior art, and I'm pretty sure George Carlin has already exhaustively enumerated most of the possible uses of it.

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  13. The real problem here by Akratist · · Score: 2

    My concern with this kind of case has always been the "fencing off" of the "open range" of ideas, art, and concepts. In other words, okay, so "candy" in games is now trademarked. Maybe next is "marble" or "bucks" or "battle" or something. People want to look to one place or another to develop something new and interesting, but hey, you have to pay rent to use the land...err...the idea. Given that ideas are generally derived from a long process of exposure to different cultural experiences and concepts (the "candy man" concept has been around for a long time -- look at the original Willie Wonka and the candyman song), it's not a whole lot different from saying that they're going to stake their claim to one part or another of our shared cultural experiences. I think this is what is more offensive than anything else about this kind of move and why it angers people so much, myself included.

  14. Re:Counter-move by toonces33 · · Score: 2

    Well, I am applying for a new patent entitled "Use of the urethra for the purpose of urination". Licensing fees will be quite reasonable, and I will sell lifetime subscriptions in order to reduce the paperwork for everyone. You will be able to send the checks to my villa in the Caymans. Or maybe bitcoins - haven't worked out the details yet.

  15. USPTO's New Slogan by organgtool · · Score: 5, Funny

    You've got money, we've got rubber stamps

  16. Prior art all over the place? by pr0t0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google: candy games -crush
    Set date filter: 01/01/2011 - 12/31/2011 (Candy Crush was released on Facebook 04/12/2012)

    I mean really? Could thousands of online and mobile games with the word "candy" in them, existing years, even decades before King Games released Candy Crush, suddenly be in violation of a newly registered trademark?

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    1. Re:Prior art all over the place? by jo_ham · · Score: 2

      Prior art has nothing to do with trademarks. This is a not a patent.

      You can trademark a term even if it has been used before - for example, "Windows" or "Apple" or "Radio Shack" or "Best Buy" or "Ubuntu".

      All that matters for a trademark is that you register it as your protected mark in the area that you are trading in. It is not uncommon for some things to be trademarked by different companies in different areas that have the same name (for example, Apple Records and Apple Computer in the music industry and the electronics industry, before Apple Computer started to move into the music industry with the iTunes store - a source of trademark conflict between the two companies), or "Mustang" the car and "Mustang" the shoe brand.

      There's no prior art issue to address because it's not relevant. The only concern to be addressed by the person approving the trademark is if the term is too generic - it has been argued that "Windows", for example, is too generic, whereas "Disney" is obviously not. If it is ruled that "candy" as a term is too generic to be made an exclusive mark then it will be rejected.

      Or maybe not, if the saga from the London 2012 Olympics is anything to go by, where things like "Summer" and "2012" used together would fall foul of rules being enforced by "olympic brand managers".

  17. Not seeing "candy" trademark by michaelmalak · · Score: 2

    IANAL but a quick search at uspto.gov turns up a handful of "candy crush" trademarks, all of which trademark "candy crush" and none of which claim just "candy". I'm guessing king.com is enforcing against "candy" videogames based on arguments of market confusion with "candy crush," and wouldn't dare try to claim market confusion against Candyland.

    TIL Forbes.com is just another hysteria-mongering blogger.

    1. Re:Not seeing "candy" trademark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's registration number 85842584.

  18. Re:Serious legal question by gnasher719 · · Score: 2

    Doesn't that mean that it's not a valid trademark? I thought that trademarks had to be defended, always, or they lost their status.

    It doesn't say anywhere how hard you have to try. They can send a company with an established use of the name a letter "please stop using the name candy". A year later a letter "please stop using the name candy, because we have a trademark". A year later a letter "please stop using the name candy, or we tell our lawyer". A year later a letter "please stop using the name candy, we have a lawyer now".

  19. Thanks! "Candy" (only) trademark pasted here by michaelmalak · · Score: 5, Informative

    Thank you for the registration number. It's unbelievable USPTO would allow a trademark 1) on a dictionary word, 2) on such a broad base of categories, 3) when other products already use the word. But it's true.

    Word Mark CANDY

    Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Apparatus for recording, transmission or reproduction of sound or images; Blank magnetic data carriers and recording discs; Blank magnetic disks, pre-recorded magnetic disks featuring computer games; Compact discs, DVDs and video recordings featuring computer games; Calculating machines, Data processing equipment, namely, couplers, Computers; Computer game software for video and computer games; Video disks and video tapes with recorded animated cartoons; Audiovisual teaching apparatus, namely, slide or photograph projection apparatus; Camcorders; Cameras; Cassette players; Compact disc players; Compact discs featuring video and computer games; Computer game programs; Computer keyboards; Computer memory hardware; Computer operating programs, recorded; Computer peripheral devices; Computer programmes, recorded for video games; Computer programs for video games; Computer software, recorded for video games; Downloadable image files containing photographic images and artwork, text, and games; Downloadable music files; Downloadable ring tones for mobile phones; DVD players; Downloadable electronic publications in the nature of e-books, online magazines, online newspapers, electronic journals, blogs, podcasts and mobile game applications in the field of computer and video games; Exposed photographic film; Headphones; Juke boxes, musical; Laptop computers; Microphones; Baby monitors; Battery performance monitors; Computer monitors; Mouse pads; Notebook computers; Blank optical discs; Optical discs featuring computer and video games; Personal stereos; Portable media players; Portable telephones; Record players; Sound recording apparatus; Sound reproduction apparatus; Sound transmitting apparatus; Spectacle cases; Spectacle frames; Sunglasses; Tape-recorders; Teaching apparatus, namely, electronic teaching equipment in the nature of computers, multimedia projectors, computer whiteboards; Telephone apparatus; Television apparatus for projection purposes; Blank USB flash drives. Blank video cassettes; Prerecorded video cassettes featuring computer games; Video game cartridges; Video recorders; Cases for mobile phones, tablets and other electronic mobile devices, excluding video game devices; Computer games software; Computer game entertainment software; Downloadable electronic game software for use on mobile phones, tablets and other electronic mobile devices; Video game software; Interactive multimedia computer game programs; Games software for use on mobile phones, tablets and other electronic mobile devices; Downloadable computer software for mobile phones, tablets and other electronic mobile devices in the field of social media; Downloadable software in the nature of a mobile application for use in the field of social media; Apps featuring computer games, namely, computer game software IC 025. US 022 039. G & S: Clothing, namely, aprons, bandanas, bath robes, bathing caps, bathing suits, bathing trunks, beachwear, beach shoes, belts, bibs not of paper, boots, caps, headwear, coats, dresses, dressing gowns, ear muffs, football boots, gloves, hats, headbands, jackets, jumpers, pullovers, masquerade costumes, money belts, neckties, overalls, overcoats, pajamas, pants, paper hats for use as clothing, sandals, sarongs, shirts, shoes, short-sleeve shirts, shower caps, ski boots, ski gloves, skirts, sleep masks, slippers, slips, socks, soles for footwear, stockings, suits, sun visors, sweaters, sweatshirts, swimsuits, tee-shirts, tights, trousers, under garments, underpants, underwear, uniforms, vests, waistcoats, wristbands; Footwear

    IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Educational services, namely, conducting classes, seminars, workshops in the field of computers, computer games; Training in the field of compu

  20. Actually, this is going to get interesting by Unixnoteunuchs · · Score: 2

    The mark "CANDY" was published as application for registration serial number 85/842,584 on January 15, 2014. Interested parties have until February 15, 2014 to file a Notice of Opposition to registration of the mark. king.com's pushing its weight around regarding this mark during the opposition period, when they are particularly vulnerable, is just stupid, IMHO. Any party receiving a "cease and desist" from king.com can file institute an opposition proceeding before the U.S. Trademark Office during this time and get the trademark examiners to consider all the many arguments as to why king.com should not obtain registration for this mark for these goods and services.

  21. Trademark != Copyright by Hobadee · · Score: 2

    *sigh* Here we go again...

    Trademarks are not necessarily exclusive, and while registering a trademark will go a long way in a court case, it will not guarantee a win. A trademark is simply what you are known as to consumers. Once upon a time, "Escalator" was a trademark. "Escalator"s became so popular that people began to associate "Escalator" with moving stairways. Since "Escalator" didn't protect it's brand, it slipped into generic usage and they lost their trademark. Now anyone is allowed to sell an "escalator".

    This is why we have recently seen such a huge push from Xerox, Kleenex, and Google asking people to stop "xeroxing", "using a kleenex", and "googling". As soon as the usage of the word becomes a verb to the common person, instead of a noun, the trademark is lost. This is why companies will pour millions into branding efforts telling us to "Copy using a Xerox photocopier", "Use Kleenex brand facial tissue", or "Use the Google web search engine".

    Additionally, Trademarks can be regional. There was at least one case of Kentucky Fried Chicken not being allowed to call themselves "Kentucky Fried Chicken" in Kentucky. Why? Because there was already a "Kentucky Fried Chicken" in town that people knew about. It didn't matter that some large company had the name also - the small guy was around first and was therefore allowed to keep the trademark in the region people knew them. (They would not have been allowed to open up a new store somewhere else though, as people in that area likely wouldn't have known about them but would know about the chain.)

    The government will grant a trademark application to just about anything, as long as it doesn't already exist. It's up to the courts to determine if infringement has happened later on. In the case of something such as the game "Candy Land", which has been around for a long time, they would certainly prevail. (Unless they fail to protect their mark.)

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  22. Merely descriptive by tepples · · Score: 2

    I thought "candy" would be considered merely descriptive for a video game that depicts pieces of candy as the objects with which the player interacts. For example, in both Yoshi's Cookie and Cookie Clicker, the player interacts with cookies. Unless a merely descriptive term gains a secondary meaning, I don't see how it should be eligible for a trademark.