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EU Secretly Plans To Put a Back Door In Every Car By 2020
An anonymous reader writes "A secretive EU body has agreed to develop a device to be fitted to all cars allowing police to cut off any engine at will, it emerged today. The device, which could be imposed within a decade, would also allow police to track a vehicle's movements as well as immobilise it. According to The Daily Telegraph a group of senior EU officials, including several Home Office mandarins, have signed off the proposal at a secret meeting in Brussels."
it's what democracy is about!
Because criminals won't immediately disable this shit, right?
$10 million, (finger twist), or every other car on the autobahn comes to a halt at 1pm.
First hack will put a end to that pretty quickly I suspect.
About 5 minutes after this is implemented, the protocols will be cracked. About 5 minutes later some prankster will be broadcasting the "kill" signal to every car in Paris from a lunchbox portable radio from the top of the Eiffel tower.
None of them can see the clouds; The polished wings don't care.
And a hatchback door, so I guess you could say there are 3 back doors.
Way to write a headline, editors. How about something a little better like "EU Secretly Plans To Put a Back Door in Every Car ECU by 2020" ?
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Does that mean only hatchbacks will be permitted in the EU going forward?
(Note to eds: bad titles are bad, and will be mocked.)
Yaz
...suddenly a vulnerability is found and a kid rips off the first DDOT (Distributed Denial of Transportation)
and all of London's cars come to a grinding halt...
Call me when they release these "classified documents", name the "mandarins" concerned and find someone who can give a more reasoned opinion than Nijel "why does this man deserve equal coverage on the BBC?" Farage, otherwise I'll just assume this is just more of The Telegraph's usual anti-EU ranting.
Oh, look, the Mail's covering it too.
Fancy that.
For heaven's sake, there's more than enough EU bumbling going on as it is without editors concocting more of their own.
If God forks the Universe every time you roll a die, he'd better have a damned good memory.
At least the inevitable war-driving hacks for this will put IT security center stage and not the usual 30 second slot in the late evening news.
If that is true, than someone leaked it. They should be found and tried for treason. Isn't that what happens to people who let the public know how the government is ......
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Full Definition of MANDARIN
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a : a public official in the Chinese Empire of any of nine superior grades
b (1) : a pedantic official (2) : bureaucrat
Mandarin
(informal, UK) A senior civil servant.
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Because the Daily Mail is like the Onion, only the jokes are by accident.
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Five gets you one hundred that, assuming this agreement actually exists, there are exceptions in it for cars being used by high officials and the well-enough-connected-to-pay-sufficient-bribes.
Lots of the above posts go on and on about hackers, yet I don't hear about this happening to all those OnStar equiped vehicles that have the ability to remotely disable your engine.
Looks like it's time for a coupe
Where all member states are gathered *as equals* to do what Germany wants.
While that's often true, I'm sure I remember the British government suggesting this some years ago.
What usually seems to happen is that EU governments who want to impose draconian rules but can't get them past their own voters go to the EU, get it passed there, and then say 'sorry, we can't stop it, it's the EU, got to to what they tell us, boy, we're so totally upset about this'.
People like to argue that these kinds of surveillance and control are legitimate and nobody cares about them; if so, then why are they done in secret?
Shouldn't they rename themselves "OffStar"?
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
Dear Slashdot,
You've posted a story from the Dailymail that has the form "EU wants to do outrageous thing!". The Dailymail has a long track record of:
a) Hating the EU.
b) Printing utter falsehoods about supposed plans "the EU" has, at least in their headlines and leading text.
E.g., a previous instance, which I complained to the PCC about (who turn out to be toothless and/or cowards): http://paul.jakma.org/2011/11/... .
Please do not feed the Dailymail troll.
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How low can you go ?
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
Good to know that the security will be impervious to attack. and that police will never make a mistake when using it.
Seriously though Germany (which runs the EU) is reverting back to its Nazi roots with every piece of privacy busting legislation.
No offense mate, but the Germans are the only ones to be trusted in this regard. They - the people - are the only ones who take all this shit seriously and who are willing to protest, and they make a difference. I'm Dutch, which is supposed to be liberal and we always pretend to stand up against injustice, but in reality most people here don't care.
This story is mostly nonsense.
There's a thing called ENLETS (or European Network of Law Enforcement Technology Services), which is meant to be "the leading European platform that strengthens police cooperation and bridges the gap between the users and providers of law enforcement technology." From what I can tell it is a sort of advisory committee of law enforcement technology experts, working through Europol, who brainstorm how to use technology to help law enforcement stuff. Currently it gets about €600k in funding, mostly from the EU, some from the UK and the Netherlands. They're asking for that to be increased to €915k. Most of that seems to be in hiring some new full-time advisers; from their personnel costs, they want about 8 people working full time; a leader, a policy officer, and admin person and 5 senior advisers. So if they don't get their budget increase, there's a good chance none of this stuff will happen.
This article is based on a "secret" document (which I think is this one), which is a (draft?) work programme for the group for 2014-2020; so what they're supposed to be looking at.
This document stems from a recommendation by the Council of the European Union that ENLETS look into this kind of thing - the instructions etc. can be found here (or if that doesn't work, search for document 12103/13 on their search page). They asked ENLETS to monitor and coordinate the development of new technologies.
The actual "secret" document is listed on the Council's website (do a search for 17365/13) as "Law Enforcement Technology Services (ENLETS) 2014 - 2020 - Work programme", but the document itself isn't accessible. I don't know whether that's because it's such a minor report (and not really an official EU thing) that they haven't bothered uploading it, or if they are claiming it should be withheld; I'm tempted to make a formal request for it to see what they say.
The five short-term goals they have been asked to look at are in some places a bit scary:
...from CSI.
No! Don't let them collaborate! They are dangerous enough as individuals let alone in packs! The seemingly innocuous green paper disguises are just to put you off guard of their sinister intents.
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All cars with fly-by-wire tech can be turned off remotely, as well as any GM with onstar.
Already done years ago.
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Yes! Exactly.
Think of anything that happens to personal computers and servers on the internet now and then imagine automobiles being rooted and forced into remote servitude.
I like the way you think.
Combine this with NFC purchasing and the obesity/heart disease problem could go through the roof with massive line ups at Jack-In-De-Box or what ever your favourite fat delivery system is.