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Finnish Hacker Isolates Helicopter GPS Coordinates From YouTube Video Sounds

An anonymous reader sends a post by Finnish electronics hacker Oona Räisänen, who heard a mysterious digital signal in the audio accompanying a YouTube video of a police chase. The chase was being filmed by a helicopter. Räisänen wrote: "The signal sits alone on the left audio channel, so I can completely isolate it. Judging from the spectrogram, the modulation scheme seems to be BFSK, switching the carrier between 1200 and 2200 Hz. I demodulated it by filtering it with a lowpass and highpass sinc in SoX and comparing outputs. Now I had a bitstream at 1200 bps. ... The bitstream consists of packets of 47 bytes each, synchronized by start and stop bits and separated by repetitions of the byte 0x80. Most bits stay constant during the video, but three distinct groups of bytes contain varying data." She guessed that the data was location telemetry from the helicopter, so she analyzed it to extract coordinates. When she plotted them and compared the resulting curve to the route taken by the fleeing car in the video, it was a match.

163 comments

  1. what an ep1c hack by Connie_Lingus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    i think i'm in love with this women.

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    1. Re:what an ep1c hack by rvw · · Score: 4, Funny

      i think i'm in love with this women.

      Steal a car and make sure it is at prime time!

    2. Re:what an ep1c hack by artor3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      And make sure to set up a speaker to broadcast your proposal in FSK ascii characters.

    3. Re:what an ep1c hack by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      she seems quite smart.

      better rot13 it to make it a bit harder.

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    4. Re:what an ep1c hack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i'm in love with this women.

      Just don't let any of the women you're in love with find out about the others and you should be fine.

    5. Re:what an ep1c hack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's sad that this got an insightful mod. The fact that everyone jumps to potential mate every time a woman does something is one of the biggest barriers to women in technical fields.

    6. Re: what an ep1c hack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure his mom understands and secretly hopes he's finally leaving the house.

    7. Re:what an ep1c hack by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      She doesn't care about you, she's in love with a journalist and currently wanted for triple murder. Too busy a schedule.

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    8. Re:what an ep1c hack by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The fact that everyone jumps to potential mate every time a woman does something is one of the biggest barriers to women in technical fields.

      If your logic is correct, that might just clean up itself nicely when more women start "doing something". Either that, or your logic is wrong, seeing as humanity survived for many millennia without women doing nothing.

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    9. Re:what an ep1c hack by russotto · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Right, men should be attracted to women only because of their purely physical charms, not because of anything they actually do. And by "men" I mean "not neckbearded nerds", who should just stay in their fucking parents basements and forget about any sort of relationship.

    10. Re:what an ep1c hack by mwehle · · Score: 4, Funny

      If your logic is correct, that might just clean up itself nicely when more women start "doing something". Either that, or your logic is wrong, seeing as humanity survived for many millennia without women doing nothing.

      I'm going to have to go with possibility two here. I believe humanity survived for many millennia "without women doing nothing". I would in fact go so far as to moot the proposition that should women begin doing nothing humanity may indeed not survive.

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    11. Re:what an ep1c hack by g0bshiTe · · Score: 0

      That and their boobs get in the way of everyone elses work.

      Ever tried to work while staring at a womans boobs?

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    12. Re:what an ep1c hack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, God forbid anyone find a woman attractive for her mind.

    13. Re:what an ep1c hack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're just hookin' you up, man. We make the comment—you come swooping in to save the day with your "Oh, those poor womens; men are pigs" and then you get to bang...um, well there're no women here, so uh...

    14. Re:what an ep1c hack by sadness203 · · Score: 2

      Better do it twice then, to give the message stronger encryption.

    15. Re:what an ep1c hack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Right, like women don't hit on the men in female dominated industries, subject them to advances, and then leaving him wondering if he'll lose his job for saying 'yes', or for saying 'no.' This happens in heterogenic offices, so I see no reason why it wouldn't be worse in this circumstance.

      It's not that propositioning someone is really a bad thing, but the government granted trump cards women have make their behavior a genuine threat to men. Really, it's women who should learn to take it as compliments rather than using these hair trigger laws as a rejection tool. The only valid complaints here are when the propositioning party won't back off when asked, but right now, the whiteknight-defined law acts only on women's sayso, with little proof required. It's time to put this behavior in perspective instead of labeling men as pervs for asking women out, or admiring them. Both genders eyes wander. Leave it to the left to criminalize natural behavior.

    16. Re:what an ep1c hack by epyT-R · · Score: 2

      Well, these days, lots of men are realizing that relationships aren't worth the time, resource, and legal risk, and many of them are not 'neckbeard nerds.'

    17. Re:what an ep1c hack by spokenoise · · Score: 1

      I'd download a car rather than steal it!

    18. Re:what an ep1c hack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen lots of people do that, not just americans. Idiocracy is not amerocentric.

    19. Re:what an ep1c hack by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ever tried to work while staring at a womans boobs?

      Not since they put in the network filters. ;-)

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    20. Re:what an ep1c hack by anubi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The most significant thing anything has is its mind.

      It does not even have to be human. Animals become very loved companions as well.

      If the mind is sour, I don't have much of a use for it - and do not enjoy its presence.

      A woman's mind is by far the most attractive thing she has as far as I am concerned. The rest, although it may be physically attractive, is meaningless if the mind is not there. Something like that, like a porn video, is only good for venting lust, and as soon as the prostatic pressure is released, the want or need of companionship with it is gone. Its just an irritant.

      My own take is women spend way way way too much time at department store beauty aisles trying to mimic the celebrities of the day, and not enough pursuing their own intellectual interests.

      What makes this particular woman stand out is she DID pursue her intellectual interests - and do I ever find that attractive. Someone who would understand someone else also pursuing intellectual interests instead of just being led around by the men behind the microphones running the "star making machinery".

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    21. Re:what an ep1c hack by wasteoid · · Score: 1

      I think I'm in love with this AC woman; her post is insightful.

    22. Re:what an ep1c hack by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Whoosh. It's not got anything to do with why the guy was attracted to her, it's the fact that rather than focus on the technical achievement first. Consider what it is like for a women trying to present something like this at a conference and knowing that the first thing half the guys in the audience do is evaluate her as a potential target for their (unwanted) affection. How do you think it feels trying to engage in a debate about something you did when the first comment is like that?

      I wonder if this happens to guys too? Do gay men think this way about them? I've never had to politely (or impolitely) fend off unwanted advances from anyone, and I'd say I'm fairly average looking so it's not that.

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    23. Re:what an ep1c hack by Modern+Primate · · Score: 1

      Right. So finding women attractive for their intelligence is a bad thing. Got it.

    24. Re:what an ep1c hack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly! Now you get it. You should not be attracted to them based on any specifically definable attributes. Otherwise you are objectifying them.

      It should be based on some "Je ne sais quoi". Then it is safe.

    25. Re:what an ep1c hack by michelcolman · · Score: 1

      The fact that everyone jumps to potential mate every time a woman does something is one of the biggest barriers to women in technical fields.

      It's very good for the evolution of our species, though.

    26. Re:what an ep1c hack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, how horrifying it must be that people find your intelligence attractive.

      Sexuality is human nature. What she "knows" (which is bullshit, by the way; she doesn't "know" this, she might suspect it but it is an assumption at best) is largely irrelevant anyway. What matters is how people treat her and how she deals with that. If someone treats her differently and she doesn't appreciate the way that person is acting, she should (and likely will) tell them to knock it off. If it escalates past that, that's something that should be dealt with on an individual basis. Stigmatizing the mere attraction to someone based on intelligence, though, is not the right way to go about things. In fact, it's a hell of a lot better a reason than many other reasons people have for being attracted to someone they don't know.

  2. If anyone needs me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll be in the kitchen, making this woman a sandwich.

    1. Re:If anyone needs me... by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      She anticipated that and she's already hacked your fridge!

      Ohhho noz!

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  3. ...and? by Achra · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    am I the only one reading this story and thinking, "so what?". The most interesting this is that apparently the digital signal was embedded into the tv-feed for the video. One would think that they would strip that back out before broadcast. The rest? I'm guessing that this woman has an amateur radio background, for her to know what 1200baud BFSK sounds like and to have all of the SDR software already on her computer. The rest is just hexdump and pattern matching. Sorry, I know this is an oversimplification, but this isn't genius either.

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    1. Re:...and? by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Pfft, it's fucking magic to me dude, but I'm a software guy. I think the so what is 2 things - first it shows crazy shit you can do that people don't expect with Youtube or other short clips, and second it's a chick who did it.

    2. Re:...and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      probably only if they specialized in communications (EE version, not business version)

    3. Re: ...and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because women have never contributed to technology.... Even though the first programmer was female and the inventor of spread spectrum was a Hollywood starlet. Continue existing in your delusion - what have you ever done of any importance?

    4. Re: ...and? by g0bshiTe · · Score: 2

      I know I still enjoy a good Hollywood starlet spread spectrum today.

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    5. Re:...and? by Achra · · Score: 1

      I'm a software guy just like you. It's just that I am also a software guy with a hobbyist understanding of amateur radio and electronics. You can learn how to do this too.

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    6. Re: ...and? by crazyninjamonkey4 · · Score: 1

      Given the contents of her blog (windytan.com), I'm not surprised she discovered this... She does some pretty cool shit with radios.

    7. Re: ...and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Exactly, they have contributed, so why does the media elevate relatively mediocre technical accomplishments whenever they're done by a woman? Oh right, cultural marxism.

    8. Re:...and? by foobar+bazbot · · Score: 1

      I didn't RTFA, but TFS says she used sox, which I wouldn't classify as "SDR software" (though as a rather versatile DSP package, of course it can be used as such), and which is installed by default in a lot of Linux distros.

    9. Re: ...and? by MakerDusk · · Score: 1

      That one is easy: it makes good television, and it's also about the highest level the producer can understand. Brilliance is only truly recognized and appreciated by people who have sufficient background. Could you imagine a local news anchor trying to explain what was done? Could you imagine their audience understanding any of it? Even if the person's intelligence, charisma, and accomplishments are vaguely understood, you suddenly have someone that makes the agency look stupid in comparison. People in power (in this case the producer) do not want to show someone who makes themselves look incompetent and stupid by comparison.

      This is also not limited to women, but applies also to men. Try approaching your boss with an idea that betters the business, but replaces a system they invented. Management that will not dismiss your idea out of hand is a rare breed indeed. Much more can be said but it essentially comes down to obvious gaps in knowledge, experience, and intelligence.

      If you'd like to see intelligent entertainment, I recommend TED talks and hak5.

    10. Re: ...and? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to scrape the rotten tuna and sand out of your mangled vagina, you twat.

    11. Re: ...and? by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      The guy you're responding to never said that. Don't jump down his throat based on your preconceived notions of his perspective.

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  4. What she doesn't tell you by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Funny

    She washe one driving the car being chased by the police.

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  5. Brilliant hack! by HellCatF6 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There was a time, before we all lost our minds to Pong, Asteroids and Zelda (yes, I go way back) where we also spent time taking our world apart and figuring out how to make it better.

    Oona rocks! She should be rewarded somehow.

    BTW - the end of the article finally explains how a megahertz signal found its way onto the audio track.

    1. Re:Brilliant hack! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Oona rocks! She should be rewarded somehow.

      Yeah, rewarded with the slobbering accolades of a bunch of pathetic dimwitted neckbeards who want to confess their undying love for her.

      Her accomplishment is more on the lines of "hey, that's pretty damn clever" rather than "OMG stop the presses: this WOMAN did something NERDY and I WANT HER!!"

    2. Re:Brilliant hack! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      She's Finnish, so she's probably unfamiliar with technology widespread in US police helicopter sorties. :-p

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    3. Re:Brilliant hack! by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      There was a time, before we all lost our minds to Pong, Asteroids and Zelda (yes, I go way back) where we also spent time taking our world apart and figuring out how to make it better.

      Oona rocks! She should be rewarded somehow.

      BTW - the end of the article finally explains how a megahertz signal found its way onto the audio track.

      Too bad it's not completely original.

      Back in the 80s, Star Trek IV was released. In it, a 3 second burst is heard that sounded a lot like HF packet. After much effort (this was the 80's, 90's, remember), and much filtering and adjustments (the noise was captured for effects purposes and processed), it was actually decoded as a real HF packet signal (ham radio). It required a Cray-2 to help with signal processing.

    4. Re:Brilliant hack! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read some of her Finnish blog posts and found a better - and maybe more interesting - hack of hers. She explained what she had added to adblock to get rid of comments on websites =)

    5. Re:Brilliant hack! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes but that was only a man who did that. This is about a woman, so we must all parade naked down the street while self-flagellating about how women are kept down in the technical fields.

    6. Re:Brilliant hack! by MakerDusk · · Score: 1

      Her accomplishment is more on the lines of "hey, that's pretty damn clever"

      Someone doing something clever leads to wanting to have a conversation with them. Why, because you're interested in what they have to say. And that leads to coffee. Sadly, a guy having a private intellectual conversation with a woman is usually viewed as a date by the ignorant masses.

    7. Re:Brilliant hack! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, rewarded with the slobbering accolades of a bunch of pathetic dimwitted neckbeards who want to confess their undying love for her.

      Her accomplishment is more on the lines of "hey, that's pretty damn clever" rather than "OMG stop the presses: this WOMAN did something NERDY and I WANT HER!!"

      Don't worry so much, they might possibly fuck you too if you show them your cell culture or latest swab or something else you got from your female doctor. So be a good girl and run and buy yourself a microscope and learn how to use it —or anything— to fill that empty lot on your shoulders or that void in your chest or both.

      Or is it just one particular neckbeard you're wanting for? Someone you mistreated? Someone who couldn't care less about you because you're nothing but an unloveable damp curse long escaped? You would be better off wasting your time on learning Visual Basic 97 then for all the good it will do you.

      All of the above also applies if you're gay.

  6. nice nice, very nice by presidenteloco · · Score: 1

    Now if she had got the location from the angle of reflected sunlight glinting off objects on the ground and the time of day, I would have been really impressed ;-)

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  7. Good thing she's Finnish by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oona had better be glad she's Finnish. If she did that in the US, she could expect jack-booted thugs from Homeland Security bashing her door down. That data is SEKRET! The fact that it's only perceived as secret by said ignorant thugs because the marketing department of the vendor told them so is completely lost in the general panic. TUR'RISTS could FOLLOW the HELICOPTER! Beat to quarters and man guns!

    I'd like to think I was exaggerating for effect, but judging by the past decade, I'm really not. The current security apparatus really is self-parodying.

    (For those who want to bitch about how this perception runs contrary to Slashdot groupthink about the threat posed by that apparatus, I say only this: some of us are capable of projecting into the future. We want the spying and the blundering belligerence stopped because it might not always be blundering or incompetent. It still manages to be mortally dangerous even now. It could get much much worse.)

    1. Re:Good thing she's Finnish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It'd make a good article when se travels to US some day..... Arrested in airport.... and so on....

    2. Re:Good thing she's Finnish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to think I was exaggerating for effect, but judging by the past decade, I'm really not. The current security apparatus really is self-parodying.

      For the majority of "the past decade" - the most recent majority - "the current security apparatus" has been run by one Barack H. Obama.

      Otherwise known as "the darling of Slashdot".

      In fairness, we apply that label to everyone who wasn't part of the Bush/Cheney administration. Obama is a right wing "thug", it's just that he's what passes for "center-left" in the USA mainstream.

    3. Re:Good thing she's Finnish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Come on. I was doing this five years ago to feed GPS coordinates into a videocamera audio input with the purpose of geereferencing video frames (startup of basically three programmers) which were used for road maintenance. We were paid to film the roads, and then people in the office would inspect it, and input proper position (well, precise enough for road maintenance) into a GIS. The development of feeding the GPS into the audio was due to the previous process being clunky: gps coordinates were separate from the video, so any time the video had to be cut or modified in some way, the "synchronization" with the coordinates would be lost. Being in the video allowed us to edit, cut, and modify videos and still have the frames in the proper location.

      How can this be SEKRET? Your modem did the same to connect to the internet.

    4. Re:Good thing she's Finnish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.flightradar24.com/

    5. Re:Good thing she's Finnish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fairness, we apply that label to everyone who wasn't part of the Bush/Cheney administration. Obama is a right wing "thug", it's just that he's what passes for "center-left" in the USA mainstream.

      The distinction is moot.
      Decades of people voting for the "lesser evil" under the slogan that "a vote for someone who doesn't win is a wasted vote" have led to a situation where the parties only battle for the voters that are between the party lines and not have to fight to keep the voters that are further to the left or right.
      It doesn't make sense for the parties to distinguish themselves, they maximize their number of votes by moving in as close to the other as possible without becoming them.
      The system with two factions that are essentially equal is the result of people who thinks that it is more important that the other side doesn't win than to vote for someone who actually represents them.
      This won't change until the number of people that are voting for alternative parties are larger than the number of voters in the narrow line between the two major ones. First then will the major parties have a reason to distinguish themselves.

  8. Re:This is impressive and all by benjfowler · · Score: 2

    You become this skilled, by turning it into an obsessive hobby.

  9. Re:This woman is smarter than I. by benjfowler · · Score: 2

    Although I think that people doing interesting stuff getting double the attention because they're female, is a weird kind of inverted sexism.

    It would be a travesty if women were put off innovating like this and following their technical passions, because of arguably-sexist backhanded putdowns, or neckbeards slobbering all over them merely because they're female.

  10. Re:This woman is smarter than I. by davester666 · · Score: 1

    I believe they have identified you as a "person to avoid at all costs".

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  11. I know right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm always running my own little TEMPEST operations on youtube videos, who doesn't?

  12. Re:Well, it is saturday and I have free time by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

    You're just middle-aged. It's normal...

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  13. Re:This woman is smarter than I. by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

    How come I only see technical women smarter than me on the Internet?

    Because you never get out of your parent's basement?

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  14. Re:This is impressive and all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Or by taking a couple of EE classes. I believe signal processing is a 200-level course.

    Once you isolate the telemetry data from the audio signal (which is literally just simple subtraction in this case), you're left with a bunch of 1's and 0's that follow a known pattern defined by the telemetry standard. These 8 bits mean this. These 14 bits mean that. At that point it's no more difficult than looking at an IP header and figuring out where a packet originated.

  15. Finally! by ArchieBunker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A story worthy of slashdot. Please post more of these (not being sarcastic).

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    1. Re:Finally! by feufeu · · Score: 1
      This !

      News for nerds at least !

    2. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A story worthy of slashdot. Please post more of these (not being sarcastic).

      They seem to be coming. She was featured in Slashdot a couple of months ago already.

    3. Re:Finally! by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      This was like a throwback story!

    4. Re:Finally! by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      I was underwhelmed, but it was clear and concise, and it wasn't obviously mangled for page views the way I'm used to. I might read it again instead of the next politics article for that reason.

    5. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read the rest of her website too, its most excellent. Been reading up on the interesting stuff every month or so.

    6. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A story worthy of slashdot. Please post more of these (not being sarcastic).

      Go to hackaday. Seriously. /. sucks.

  16. DMCA Violation by mysidia · · Score: 1

    My new hero..... Good thing she's not in the US :)

    You're not supposed to be decrypting latent signals effectively hidden in the video, to uncover privileged data. The feds would have a field day with anyone in the US who did this....

    1. Re:DMCA Violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She didn't decrypt anything, it's how the video transmission system encodes the GPS data for transmission, it isn't meant to be hidden.

      I also don't think a news helicopter will care if you know where it is or where it was. I doubt the US government would either.

  17. Re:Am I missing something? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So what? It was still fun, as in "this Youtube video contains more data than meets the eyes. Let's find out what it is."

    As a ham radio enthusiast, I get the same pleasure decoding the bits of morse code that can be heard in movies from time to time: usually it's pretend morse code, but once in a while you hear a bit of a real transmission that's been overlaid onto the soundtrack by the sound engineer who didn't have a clue that what he used actually meant something totally unrelated to the movie.

    In fact, I heard a CQ call followed by a callsign in a scifi B-movie from the 90s once, and sent a QSL card to the owner of the callsign in question. He answered me saying I was one of only 5 people to have done so over the years. How fun is that?

    So yes, the code is known, there's nothing special about it, but she had fun digging out unexpected information, and I had fun reading about it. Stop being so jaded.

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  18. 0x80 by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

    For those born after the 1970s, 0x80 is the sync byte. It's what you would send on serial line protocols when you have nothing to send, in order to maintain synchrony.

     

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    1. Re:0x80 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're implying that for those born in or before the '70s 0x80 is *not* the sync byte? That's ageist. And bytist.

    2. Re:0x80 by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      Nope. Just that people born later may not have had learn about synchronous, asynchronous and plesiochronous serial line protocols because that stuff is buried in the lower layers of multi layer protocols.

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  19. Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She should try to do this for live video footage.

  20. Seconded! by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A story worthy of slashdot. Please post more of these (not being sarcastic).

    I second this.

    I'm adequately supplied with political stories, you can get those anywhere. Stories that raise the indignation level are also common - "oh! how unjust that is!".

    When you have stuff that nerds find interesting that you don't see everywhere else, nerds will come here to see it.

  21. Re:Am I missing something? by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

    So, who's writing the program to automate this for all YouTube videos?

  22. Re:This woman is smarter than I. by Nyder · · Score: 1

    Although I think that people doing interesting stuff getting double the attention because they're female, is a weird kind of inverted sexism.

    It would be a travesty if women were put off innovating like this and following their technical passions, because of arguably-sexist backhanded putdowns, or neckbeards slobbering all over them merely because they're female.

    You sound jealous.

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  23. Re:Am I missing something? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 3, Funny

    thanks for calling it morse code.

    when I see people refer to it as 'morris code', I feel the need to remind them that that's a secret language, known only by cats.

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  24. hands and hats off by aissixtir · · Score: 2

    Someone on this article truly deserves the title of a "hacker"

  25. It's just 1200baud 7O1 Bell 202 by marcansoft · · Score: 5, Informative

    0x80 is just a null byte with odd parity. What she apparently missed is that this is bog-standard Bell 202 AFSK (1200 baud) with 7 data bits and odd parity, and the data is ASCII. By throwing away the top nybble, she was throwing away the parity bit and the top 3 bits of the ASCII encoding of decimal digits. The fact that it was a parity bit should've been pretty obvious, since the top nybble flips between 0x3x and 0xbx in the pattern that you'd expect for a parity bit.

    You can decode it with off the shelf software, throw away the top bit, and get back mostly ASCII:

    $ ./minimodem --rx 1200 -f ~/helicopter.wav | tr '\200-\377\r' '\000-\177\n'
    ### CARRIER 1200 @ 1200.0 Hz ###
      282 0002.3
    #L N390374 W09432938YJ
    #AL #NA 282 0002.3
    #L N390374 W09432938YJ
    #AL #NA 283 0002.3
    #L N390372 W09432928YJ
    #AL #NA 283 0002.3
    #L N390370 W09432918YJ
    #AL #NA 283 0002.3
    #L N390370 W09432918YJ
    #AL #NA 283 0002.3
    [...]

    I'm actually surprised that she missed / didn't mention this, considering her experience with signals analysis and demodulation. This is pretty much as basic as telemetry data modulation gets! Then again, as a reverse engineer myself, sometimes we get caught up doing deep analysis of something that later turns out to be totally trivial :)

    1. Re:It's just 1200baud 7O1 Bell 202 by pe1chl · · Score: 4, Informative

      She mentioned that she used a spectral analysis to deduce that this was 1200/2200 Hz FSK, well I knew that by just listening to it!
      This is exactly the same sound as 1200 baud AFSK amateur packet radio made in the eighties/nineties, indeed using Bell 202 AFSK modems.
      I have heard so many of those packets while seeing them scrolling by on the screen that I can sometimes hear what kind of packet it is by just listening. (of course not the exact content)
      Only in this case it is async serial data, while with packet radio it was HDLC NRZI-encoded sync data. And because in packet radio there are alternating transmissions from different transmitters, you hear a characteristic "leader" pattern similar to the idle pattern in this broadcast followed by a data packet and a keydown of the transmitter.
      She probably was at an advantage not knowing about this, as she did not waste time to see if it was HDLC.

    2. Re:It's just 1200baud 7O1 Bell 202 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eighties/nineties? Sadly, packet radio hasn't advanced much in the last thirty years and the bulk of the VHF and up packet radio today is still 1200 baud Bell 202.

    3. Re:It's just 1200baud 7O1 Bell 202 by oblivionboy · · Score: 1

      She still deserves the sandwich, though.

    4. Re:It's just 1200baud 7O1 Bell 202 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Women should be treated equally and if a man failed like this we would be tearing him apart.
      Any HAM with a few years experience would instantly know what that sound was. Hell, there are tons of youtube videos with packet radio/SSTV embedded in them!

    5. Re:It's just 1200baud 7O1 Bell 202 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I didn't mention the parity bit, thought it was irrelevant for readers and the data seemed error-free anyway. And yes, your view on reverse engineers is accurate ;p -Oona

    6. Re:It's just 1200baud 7O1 Bell 202 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I left the parity stuff out of the text, thought it would be irrelevant. And yes, I was unaware of Bell 202 ;p -Oona

    7. Re:It's just 1200baud 7O1 Bell 202 by russotto · · Score: 2

      I'm actually surprised that she missed / didn't mention this, considering her experience with signals analysis and demodulation. This is pretty much as basic as telemetry data modulation gets! Then again, as a reverse engineer myself, sometimes we get caught up doing deep analysis of something that later turns out to be totally trivial :)

      Yeah, I was hoping the article would turn out to be about how the telemetry ended up cross-modulated into the audio feed or something, rather than being standard information deliberately sent. Would have been cooler.

    8. Re:It's just 1200baud 7O1 Bell 202 by Fnord666 · · Score: 2
      Please see her update 2 on the post:

      Update 2: Yes, it's 7-bit Bell 202 ASCII. I tried decoding it as such earlier, but must have gotten the bit order wrong! So I just chose a roundabout way.

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    9. Re:It's just 1200baud 7O1 Bell 202 by pe1chl · · Score: 1

      But that is not because it hasn't advanced much. It is because first it advanced a little bit, and then it mostly died
      when internet came to the homes and the novelty of packet radio was taken over by internet applications.
      What is now left are only the most stubborn users, the same ones that never advanced to higher speeds.
      But the usage is not more than 1% of what it was in the nineties. Relative to what is left, 1200 baud still plays a
      major role. But not relative to what there was in the nineties.
      (at least that is the local situation here)

    10. Re:It's just 1200baud 7O1 Bell 202 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Odd, 12h ago there was an AC comment here with her signature saying she "didn't know about bell 202", nice face-save. ;)
      Then again so what, nerdpride issues aside it's still a cool article, much better than most of the half-assed infodumps people tend to produce.

  26. Terrorists! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least that's what the police will allege.

  27. Yeah! "Hacker" used in the good old meaning! by garry_g · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... and not as the negative it is most often used nowadays ...

  28. Re:This is impressive and all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Did you look at her profile? She's interested in codes and ciphers and vintage electronics so this sort of is her hobby. Many here seem to bash her because this isn't something spectacular but she never claimed it was. All she did was to write about her observation in her own blog.

  29. Re:This woman is smarter than I. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

    How come I only see technical women smarter than me on the Internet?

    Selection bias. By means of comparison, only beautiful girls get caught in the storm of events in modern action movies, ugly slobs are always safe. (Well, I'm being somewhat facetious here, but you catch my drift.)

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  30. Re:This is impressive and all by sjames · · Score: 1

    What do you think this is?

  31. Re:Am I missing something? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

    when I see people refer to it as 'morris code', I feel the need to remind them that that's a secret language, known only by cats.

    ... and morris dancers.

    Or is it morse dancers?

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  32. I think you missed the joke in AC's comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A wife asks her husband, a software engineer, ”Could you please go shopping for me and buy one carton of milk, and if they have eggs, get 6!” A short time later the husband comes back with 6 cartons of milk. The wife asks him, “Why the hell did you buy 6 cartons of milk?” He replied, “They had eggs.”

    "For those born after the 1970s, 0x80 is the sync byte"

    If the condition of being born after the 1970s is true, 0x80 is the sync byte, otherwise it's not.

    1. Re:I think you missed the joke in AC's comment by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      Predicate Calculus FTW!

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  33. ... okay? cool, but what? by eyenot · · Score: 2

    In chemistry and physics courses you'll find you often do lab work not in discovery of new things but to prove things that are already known. It turns out to be pretty simple to do an experiment to prove that two related theories can be measurably shown to be not false, through some apparatus under some paradigm.

    So this woman used existing knowledge of how GPS works, of audio modulated data, and a chase that she also apparently knew the location of, and showed that the location of the chase matches the location being communicated. Okay, so that's cool.

    But what did she accomplish? I am, of course, asking this from the "how is this news" rostrum. It's a great proof of theory but what the hell does it have to do with anything?

    Oh, wait. The elephant in the room. I see what's going on, here, you geeks got all fucked up in the head again because here comes another woman with skills.

    A man who turns into putty for women isn't trustworthy, you know that? Strong women prey on those guys and they become security concerns.

    If you can't treat women as equals, then all of your wowie-zowie about women "doing guy things" is empty. You're more self-impressed at other males than impressed at this woman's potential.

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    "Stratigraphically the origin of agriculture and thermonuclear destruction will appear essentially simultaneous" -- Lee
    1. Re:... okay? cool, but what? by EuclideanSilence · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What this person did doesn't require a lab, or anything that any of us don't have available. A strange sound was heard, and instead of going "hey I wonder what's on TV", the signal was sanitized, it's purpose guessed and then verified to be something understandable by anyone.

      This isn't awesome because it accomplishes something. It's great because it was done for no reason at all. More stories like this please, and anyone who doesn't like it should find one of the million other websites that don't appreciate aimless-but-interesting tinkering.

    2. Re:... okay? cool, but what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But what did she accomplish? I am, of course, asking this from the "how is this news" rostrum. It's a great proof of theory but what the hell does it have to do with anything?

      *sigh* I'll say it if no one else is.... because she is a woman and because she is a electronics geek but mostly because she is a woman. There, now you have it, ok?

    3. Re:... okay? cool, but what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A strange contraction was seen, and instead of watching TV I must tell you that it's means IT IS.

    4. Re:... okay? cool, but what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember, drugs are bad... Get some sleep, mkay?

    5. Re:... okay? cool, but what? by rastos1 · · Score: 1

      But what did she accomplish?

      She did something that requires skill, knowledge and she did it for fun and interest. How often do you see that? I don't. If you do, share the story. We are eager to know.

    6. Re:... okay? cool, but what? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I read about this when she posted it to G+ a few days ago and took for what it is, an interesting investigation and some nice deduction. It's not really news, except perhaps for the fact that this kind of information is probably leaked a lot more often than most of us realize.

      I don't think it being posted has anything to do with Oona's gender, it's just generally interesting to nerds. We need more stories like this, with plenty of technical detail. Mostly we just get dumbed down tabloid style click-bait.

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    7. Re:... okay? cool, but what? by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      Why does there have to be a reason? "But what"? But nothing. It was for kicks.

      Every once in awhile, can't we just see an article like this and say, "Cool!" without overthinking it?

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  34. Re:Am I missing something? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn you internet. Now I'm visualising cats performing a morris dance.

  35. Impossible! by Barbarian · · Score: 1

    Impossible, audio systems and flight systems never interfere with each other. Any argument the other way is just from a bunch of technophobes. --- summarized from the cell phones on air planes threads.

    1. Re:Impossible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing is interfering with anything. The video transmission system on that helicopter is designed to store GPS data in one of the audio tracks.

  36. Re:This is impressive and all by Another,+completely · · Score: 1

    She was in Lordi too? Hard to know who they really are through the masks, but they are Finnish, and electrical engineering types do get up to some strange hobbies. How did you know?

  37. Re:This woman is smarter than I. by epyT-R · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A weird kind of inverted sexism? There's only one kind of sexism. The fact that the media hypes any sort of female accomplishment in male dominated activities, often while not even mentioning the name of men who do interesting things by name, is blatantly sexist. Of course, even pointing this out is considered 'misogyny' somehow. Right, right.. Yes, those poor helpless women shouldn't have to tolerate any behavior they don't want, when they don't want. How could their lives ever be complete without white knight manginas like you rushing to their defense?

    The only reason this is an article here is because of gender politics. If this accomplishment was done by a man, it wouldn't warrant special attention and would not be posted here. Reading data from a radio broadcast is nothing new and is routinely done by the ham radio crowd.

  38. Awesome Techie, Artist, ... and a Babe by fygment · · Score: 1, Informative
    --
    "Consensus" in science is _always_ a political construct.
  39. Re:Also on Google+ by fygment · · Score: 1
    --
    "Consensus" in science is _always_ a political construct.
  40. hyperbolic statement of respect by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's sad that this got an insightful mod. The fact that everyone jumps to potential mate every time a woman does something is one of the biggest barriers to women in technical fields.

    First off, if you think "mate" is what love is about, you're the one with the problem.

    Second, one person is not "everyone."

    Third: did you really think the poster was serious? It was a hyperbolic statement, meant as a strong statement of respect.

    Fourth: we can't desire a woman's lifelong companionship for her body (sexual objectification), but please do explain what is wrong with desiring a woman's companionship for her impressive work? Because you do realize that damn near every straight woman on this planet selects her mate by his accomplishments, wealth, and social standing, right?

    1. Re:hyperbolic statement of respect by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Lets look at this from a woman's perspective. I'm not a woman but I have had many of them and ended up pissing them off quite effectively so I know a bit about it. When a woman does something, extraordinary or not, she shouldn't have to put up with comments or concepts that reduce her to a baby factory. If someone on the outside looks and see that every time some butt ugly girl does something, they will be subjected to this type of harrassment, how many of them will join that field when it is much easier just becoming a stripper or hooker?

      So if a woman has to fend off approaches or put up with sexualized comments every time they accomplish something, how long do you think they will continue to accomplish things? How is this any different then a boss suggesting the only way to get a raise is to show some skin- skin to win aside from it being about money? It's not the actual act but the mentality behind it- objectifying women. It's no different to objectify someone for their body or mind when that single feature is the only thing you know about them or consider.

      It wouldn't be as bad if the comment or mentality came from someone who knew her a while and became interested or developed those feelings naturally over time, but we are on the internet and the poster most likely never knew she existed until they found out she could use her brain. That turns the poster into a creepy perv. Just like finding out your daughter's boyfriend only asked her on a date because he saw her doing the splits or eating a banana makes him a lot creepy. There is nothing wrong with desiring a woman's companionship for her impressive work if you know the person, there is when all you know about her is her impressive work or the shape of her boobs or the curve of her ass.

    2. Re:hyperbolic statement of respect by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Just like finding out your daughter's boyfriend only asked her on a date because he saw her doing the splits or eating a banana makes him a lot creepy.

      Having observed female teenagers simulate fellatio on a banana specifically to attract male attention, you tell me: Who's at fault here?

      By 'simulate' I include using their teeth to create the semblance of a glans before demonstrating deep-throating technique, inserting and withdrawing fully without biting. Or maybe I'm naive and everybody eats a banana that way.

    3. Re:hyperbolic statement of respect by ultranova · · Score: 2

      When a woman does something, extraordinary or not, she shouldn't have to put up with comments or concepts that reduce her to a baby factory.

      Fair enough. Going from "I'm in love with person X due to their impressive skills and achievements" to "person X is just a baby factory" isn't. It's insane troll logic.

      So if a woman has to fend off approaches or put up with sexualized comments every time they accomplish something, how long do you think they will continue to accomplish things? How is this any different then a boss suggesting the only way to get a raise is to show some skin- skin to win aside from it being about money?

      Power. A random Slashdot commenter doesn't have the power to affect your future in any way, while your boss does. You can't abuse someone you have no power over. At most you could annoy them - and even that is unlikely here, since OPs comment was not actually directed to the woman in question but to OPs own social group.

      It's not the actual act but the mentality behind it- objectifying women. It's no different to objectify someone for their body or mind when that single feature is the only thing you know about them or consider.

      As long as human beings have needs that require or can use other human beings to fulfil, human beings are going to look at each other as objects to do so. And that's fine. The problems begin when people insist that the other person has no qualities beyond being such an object - that they're basically a human blow-up doll and nothing else. At that point their human dignity has been disregarded, which is wrong.

      However, to be attracted to a particular feature of someone is not the same as denying the existence or importance of every other feature. It does not objectify someone to be attracted to them because they have a nice ass or a good sense of humor or m4d h4ck3r sk1llz. That requires going one step further and claiming that said quality is the only thing of importance to them - that they are just a nice ass, good sense of humour or mad hacker skills, rather than a human being with said quality.

      Which is a good thing too, since otherwise shopping for groceries would be a choice between mortally insulting the cashier or spending hours at the checkout as every shop patron gets to know her before they can conduct business.

      Just like finding out your daughter's boyfriend only asked her on a date because he saw her doing the splits or eating a banana makes him a lot creepy.

      People ask other people on a date because they find them sexually attractive. A "date" is a human mating ritual specific to modern Western culture, which may or may not lead to actual sex but certainly aims that way. If you find that "creepy" that's your problem.

      There is nothing wrong with desiring a woman's companionship for her impressive work if you know the person, there is when all you know about her is her impressive work or the shape of her boobs or the curve of her ass.

      So finding people you don't personally know attractive makes you a bad person. Thank you, that's useful moral advice, at least for indulgence salesmen.

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      Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.

    4. Re:hyperbolic statement of respect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because you do realize that damn near every straight woman on this planet selects her mate by his accomplishments, wealth, and social standing, right?

      Well that and his ass. Or so my wife says.

    5. Re: hyperbolic statement of respect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you! Well said!

    6. Re: hyperbolic statement of respect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really, I choose mine by whether I can stand their annoying traits and stupid beard.

    7. Re:hyperbolic statement of respect by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Power. A random Slashdot commenter doesn't have the power to affect your future in any way, while your boss does. You can't abuse someone you have no power over. At most you could annoy them - and even that is unlikely here, since OPs comment was not actually directed to the woman in question but to OPs own social group.

      What a bizarre argument. Just because someone doesn't have power doesn't mean that being a dick is somehow acceptable. They might be someone's boss, or might become a manager one day, and their views are not suddenly doing to change.

      We have to deal with these attitudes where we find them, not find excuses for them.

      People ask other people on a date because they find them sexually attractive.

      Wow, what horribly shallow and unfulfilling relationships you must have. Personally I find that most women are sexually attractive if I have a connection with them, regardless of looks. About 98%* of the time we spend together we are not having sex, so I tend to date women based on their personality and interests.

      * I keep a meticulous diary.

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    8. Re:hyperbolic statement of respect by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Perhaps we should save the sexualization of women for when they not only deep throat a banana as a juvenile but parade it as their significant achievement when they are an adult.

      I'm not at all saying you can or should never treat a woman like a whore, I'm saying that we shouldn't be doing it when their actions are the furthest from it. There is a huge difference between discovering a signal buried into an audio channel of a recording and detailing/documenting the attempts to decode it and deep throating a banana wouldn't you think?

    9. Re:hyperbolic statement of respect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because someone doesn't have power doesn't mean that being a dick is somehow acceptable.

      Then it's a good thing he said nothing of the sort. He was replying to "How is this any different"

      what horribly shallow and unfulfilling relationships you must have. Personally I find that most women are sexually attractive if I have a connection with them, regardless of looks.

      Well, if you read what you just got done quoting, you'd see he didn't say "looks", but "sexually attractive". You then reply by defining sexual attraction as something other than what he didn't say.

    10. Re:hyperbolic statement of respect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      . About 98%* of the time we spend...

      * I keep a meticulous diary.

      I hope your joking...if not you are one weird person...

    11. Re:hyperbolic statement of respect by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Just because someone doesn't have power doesn't mean that being a dick is somehow acceptable.

      I never said it was. And sexual extortion goes a bit beyond "being a dick".

      They might be someone's boss, or might become a manager one day, and their views are not suddenly doing to change.

      Do you think it would be appropriate for a boss to ask their underling out? Likely not. Is it appropriate to ask their peer out? Yes. The limits of appropriate behaviour do change all the time depending on the relative roles of the subject and object of said behaviour. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to implement corresponding changes in their behaviour, regardless of their views.

      We have to deal with these attitudes where we find them, not find excuses for them.

      "These attitudes" being someone admitting to finding someone else sexually attractive to third parties. No, "we" don't have to do anything about that, since it's utterly harmless. Your Majesty and Your Royal Side Personas are free to do as You wish, of course.

      People ask other people on a date because they find them sexually attractive.

      Wow, what horribly shallow and unfulfilling relationships you must have. Personally I find that most women are sexually attractive if I have a connection with them, regardless of looks. About 98%* of the time we spend together we are not having sex, so I tend to date women based on their personality and interests.

      Right. So do you also date men? And if not, does this has to do with them not having compatible personalities and interests, or do you simply not find them attractive? In other words, is that 2% of the time you do spend having sex important for whether you date someone or simply befriend them, which was what I claimed?

      Or did you simply want to insult someone and I happened along? In that case, consider me emotionally devastated. Was it good for you?

      * I keep a meticulous diary.

      And a running count of your sexual encounters, apparently. Perhaps you're simply projecting?

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      Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.

  41. Re:Am I missing something? by Guest316 · · Score: 1

    A cat who didn't get his dewormer on schedule in '88.

  42. Re:Also on Google+ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So she's not so smart after all.

  43. simple explanation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    somebody working on the helicopter's systems clearly routed a serial data line that carried GPS data from the GPS reciever to another system (like a flight recorder (blackbox, or crime video box, etc), or some downlink radio) too close to the audio system, and they ended-up with some audible cross-talk. Either some part of this system was not properly emissions-tested OR the different subsystems were properly emissions-tested, but the way they were interconnected changed the everall system to be non-compliant

    Nothing to see here... move along. No need to get all paranoid that somehow GPS data can generally be sniffed out of ANY system.

  44. Mod Parent Offtopic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How could a summary fail to mention such a crucial trait in favor of focusing on the person's accomplishment!? All of the /guys/ get to be critiqued for how hot they are, after all; it's such an unfair double-standard that women never get the same attention put on their bodies rather than just their mental abilities... /s

    BTW I'm a straight guy, I'm just tired of 'locker-room' comments that give the impression that "geeky straight man" = "backwards creep." Yeah, it's sexist when we respond to other guys' accomplishments by discussing what they did & related stuff, but then react to women's accomplishments by focusing on how attractive they are instead...seemed kinda funny 10 years ago, now it's just embarrassingly uncool.

  45. Nice job, you wil go far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Curiosity is great attribute. Having the technical abilities to satisfy it even better.

    Reverse engineering is a fun quest.
          Once you that first entry/clue into what the gadget is doing,
              It's a great ride.

    You figured out a '202 modem circa the 1970's.
          There are many ways to demodulate it, the absolute optimal is called a matched filter.
          This is two filters tuned to the two tones with the slicer looking at the relative amplitude of the signals.
          It's impressive that for the low noise channel you are looking at, your high pass/low pass scheme is pretty much equlivant.

    Keep up the good work. Just be sure to stay curious in other things besides tech. There's a lot of other interesting things out there.

  46. Old guy remembers old stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmmm.. Old news, old technology, old data link standards over an analog channel. About 20 years ago, this was the standard method for police vehicles AVL over a motorola VHF radio. I recall building demodulators in our amateur radio club. Doesn't anybody here remember analog?

  47. Magic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Funny how what counts as "magical" nowadays is the human part:

    >What software did you use for the "magical image analysis"?
            Plotting the car's position was actually all manual work. I've done that before from videos.

    Not long ago words like "automagical" were used to describe what a computer does. Is this a shift in perception?

    1. Re:Magic by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      A lot of people would like us to think that computers are magic these days, yes. This is problematic for a number of reasons, but a large one seems to be "if it's magic, it will be reliable"...which is obviously false as the "magic" is only as good as the guy who "cast" it...and as soon as anybody actually looks at the program, they find security holes.

      Then we sue them when they point out the holes.

      The contexts I've heard "automagical" used in usually equate to "this should work fine but it's so complicated that it would take forever to explain to you how to fix it if something goes wrong so just cross your fingers."

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  48. No band-pass? by AC-x · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised they're doing in-band signalling with out a band-pass filter, tho I guess maybe they don't count the GPS telemetry as sensitive or they want it archived with the video stream.

  49. Pretty sad really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Over quite some years I've enjoyed reading Slashdot cos I feel more or less equal to everybody here. And it's an inclusive sort of universe. But then sadly the concept of a woman is mentioned and I realise I am nothing like 95% of you ignorant assholes, and that you have zero respect for me as a human being. Thanks guys, I might just go outside and catch some sunshine.

  50. Re:Am I missing something? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL parent needs +5 Funny badly *thumbs up*

  51. hello, strawman. by SuperBanana · · Score: 1

    The OP's comment did not "reduce her to a baby factory."