Slashdot Mirror
NYPD Is Beta-Testing Google Glass
Presto Vivace writes "The New York City Police Department is trying to determine how useful Google Glass would be for law enforcement. From the article: 'The New York City Police Department's massive and controversial intelligence and analytics unit is evaluating whether Google Glass is a decent fit for investigating terrorists and helping cops lock up bad guys, VentureBeat has learned. The department recently received several pairs of the modernist-looking specs to test out. "We signed up, got a few pairs of the Google glasses, and we're trying them out, seeing if they have any value in investigations, mostly for patrol purposes," a ranking New York City law enforcement official told VentureBeat.'"
Buck the Feta's...
I wonder how bad Beta slashdot looks on Google Glass?
It optimizes the Web 3.0 paradigm for maximal user experience and audience impactfulness.
The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
US5722418
+
US5644363
+
GoogleGlass
+
Acceptance
=
????
I think we've all read the "Slashdot Tries Something New; Audience Responds!" submission from Timothy at this point.
I was horrified to read this particular sentence within it:
Most importantly, we want you to know that Classic Slashdot isn't going away until we're confident that the new site is ready.
That confirms that Slashdot Classic will in fact be gone at some point. That, of course, also means that it will most likely be replaced with the shitty beta site.
I had some hope this morning that the complete hatred shown by so many users here would be taken seriously. Clearly, that is not the case. The very valid complaints have been totally ignored.
The beta site cannot be salvaged. It is so inherently broken that there's no possible way it could ever be ready to replace the Slashdot Classic site, regardless of how much work they put into it.
I think we should mark today, February 6, 2014, as the day that Slashdot died. This confirmation from Timothy basically guarantees that many of us will be driven away against our will, all due to this shitty, shitty beta site going live. The community just won't survive that, I'm afraid to say.
to tell the officer exactly how far to shove the toilet plunger up the suspects ass during an interrogation? Point out the locations of local mosques for illegal surveillance? Figure out which community to target the illegal stop and frisk campaign on next?
Remember "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters"? Help make it a reality again! http://soylentnews.org
Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet.
On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design.
Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system. If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this in a new tab. After seeing that, click here to return to classic Slashdot.
We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott
Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
Commentors - only discuss Beta
http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories
Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention. Links of note:
Discussion of Beta: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=56395415
Discussion of where to go if Beta goes live: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3321441
Alternative Slashdot: altslashdot.org
IRC Discussion: slashnet.org #slashdot
Marked-up text for this comment: http://pastebin.com/mc2rhHBh
.
Who, in their right mind, would want to destroy the cross-pollination of innovation within the global technology industry?
Dice, do you have the slightest inkling of what you are about to destroy?
> I wonder how bad Beta slashdot looks on Google Glass?
Have you heard the old joke that ends in the phrase, "Coffee break is over; back on your heads."?
We have always been at war with your beta.
I've been reading /. since '98, without the classic UI as an option you have lost me as a user. I will participate in the upcoming boycott.
You do something wrong? Cop has video of it.
Cop does something wrong? "Well, I was chasing the suspect and my Google Glass fell off, so I don't have footage of the event. I have NO idea how he fell down and broke both arms, both legs (multiple fractures each), and caved his own skull in so he can't testify...err...caved his own skull in..."
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
Well one problem is that about 1/4 is covered by an empty white column.
It optimizes the Web 3.0 paradigm for maximal user experience and audience impactfulness.
How much pepto did you have to drink before you could say that and not vomit in your mouth? The internet wants to know.
#fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
alt.slashdot.refugees?
The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
I'm picturing the NYPD implementation of Google Glass to be extremely buggy. It will have a tendency to shut off right before almost every arrest, and break much more frequently too. I'm not sure if things have improved under the new mayor or not. I'm a skeptic, and corrupt agencies tend to remain corrupt until somehow the house gets cleaned.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Several police forces have been hammering people who record police with wiretapping charges. Eventually wearable computers with 3/4G will be commonplace. I am sure that wearable video will help knock down frivolous complaints against police officers for misconduct and will sometimes magically be corrupted when recordings might prove wrongdoing.
However, eventually there will be so many people wearing so many video cameras it'll be impossible for bad apples to say all of the independently recorded videos magically were deleted or got corrupted on the floppy disc. And there will be so many citizens wearing cameras that there will be too many SD cards to confiscate.
A large enough difference in degree becomes a difference in kind. I think digital video will have as large an impact on policing as the telephone and radio. If you've been following, there was a constable in the UK who basically can be seen lying on camera about smelling alcohol on a protester's breath. (Google it, it's all over LiveLeak.) Guys like this will -- one hopes -- get cashiered. Baddies who hope to win the lawsuit lottery by inventing abuse should also expect to have a hard time.
Of course, police have become used to yelling 'Stop resisting' when handcuffing in case they're being videotaped so the Darwinian behavioural game continues.
---- The above post was generated by the Turing Institute. Maybe.
I think you meant to ask, "What methodology did you use to leverage Procter & Gamble(tm) Pepto-Bismol(tm) to ensure stakeholder regurgative response return?" Remember, in today's fast-moving web forum environment, you have to upgrade regularly to best-of-breed communicational strategies for the optimal user experience.
The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
DICE, the community is trying to tell you something. We hope you are listening. This Slash Beta idea you all got obsessed with rolling out is a REALLY bad idea. You obviously tried pencil whip the user feedback portion of your launch plan otherwise the comment system wouldn't have devolved into an outright revolt against the Beta in EVERY. SINGLE. STORY. you have posted today.
Additionally, you should keep in mind that while we love Slashdot, we recognize all good things must come to and end. If this is what you want to do, then do it. However, don't expect a large portion of the community to follow you down that path. I know this because they have told you ALL DAY. I know this because this community, unlike many others, is made up of the people who have the skills and abilities to REPLACE you. I know they will replace you because you've made them passionate about the cause. Even I, a 4 digit UID and pro-lurker, am fired up enough to post! Fix this guys or the community will fix it for you.
#IamSlashdot
May "olives and feta" be our code for "fuck the beta" going forward. Like, you're in a bar in Palo Alto and somebody mentions how their company is redesigning their site and you go, "so it's olives and feta" and they either know what you're talking about or they don't.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
I mean the post that timothy had on hearing us is approaching the level of some of the most highly commented discussions on /., and it's going to keep growing. Maybe the editors can show that to their Dice overlords and get them to back the hell off of the aggressive monetizing Beta is and refocus on a way of compromising while still keeping the damn community and not tanking the awesome place that has been /. for so very long
"goodbye and hello, as always" ~Prince Corwin, from Zelazny's Amber series
Improvements cannot be made on an already broken design. Please trash it for good.
Seems to have been slashdotted.
When a roided-up big city cop puts on Glass, physicists are not sure what effect such concentrated arrogance might have on surrounding matter. Such experiments should be conducted out in the Oort cloud, where the effects on Earth should be minimal.
That may be the hardest I've ever laughed at a Slashdot post. All my Internets to you, good sir or madam.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
I think one of the things I really like about the NYPD is that they don't call us New Yorkers their "audience". On the side of the cars they have the words "Community Professionalism Respect".
Seems to have been slashdotted.
It might go into history as the last site to be slashdotted.
Unless someone swallows their pride and admits they've been polishing a turd since October, there won't be any future slashdotting, because there won't enough users around to overwhelm a server. Unfortunately, it seems like management at slashdot has too much face invested, and don't dare tell the big brass at Dice Holding that the only possible way to survive is to kill their baby.
google glass offers only ~20% of usable space for content, so in other words they are match made in heaven
Who logs in to gdm? Not I, said the duck.
Sadly, I think I've figured it out.
- Ubuntu did it with Gnome 3.
- Microsoft did it with Windows 8.
- Numerous sites have done it by forcing facebook login to leave comments, by auto-refreshing & forcing Javascript, and by turning web pages into never-ending feeds (e.g. lifehacker.com's home page).
- Now slashdot is doing it.
Doing what? Getting rid of the gray beards.
There is no money to be sucked from bright bulbs. Those who only want to facebook will carry on like nothing has happened. And ultimately the Internet will be completely controlled by business (i.e. wolves), and populated primarily with sheep.
We, the neck bears, have served their purpose. They no longer need us. THEY are giving US the F.U.
I come here for the love
I'm picturing the NYPD implementation of Google Glass to be extremely buggy. It will have a tendency to shut off right before almost every arrest
like Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses ?
also fuck beta
Who logs in to gdm? Not I, said the duck.
It's important to note.. that beta blows.. it's really not good, if you're not improving the site then wtf are you doing?
You will learn to love beta whether you like it or not !!
I'm betting that we'll see for the first time just how unreliable the storage is on google glasses. Just wait until somebody requests footage and see how fast the "malfunctions" start occurring.
My newsfeed doesn't carry it.
Learn to love Alaska
Extend the boycott to the source of our collective angst.
That would be The Quadrangle Group and General Atlantic, the owners of Dice Holdings.
I'm sure they're not too pleased as is with Dice Holdings, but might be unaware that their subsidiary is killing a cash cow through sheer stubbornness.
Also, I found the Slashcode repository earlier thanks to someone pointing to the old FAQ -- here's the page for the last version, dated 2006. If someone with the knowledge/ability gets it going on a site, I think more than enough Slashdotters would contribute to pay the bills.
First of all, get it off Sourceforge and fork it at a new location.
SF too is under Dice.com. If they feel free to censor here, don't trust what they host elsewhere either.
Repeating my comment (slightly edited) now that you're logged in:
Well, I'm seeing Slashdotters say back on Usenet, and it's definitely alive again (I started hanging out there again 3 days ago). With Slashdot admin censoring posts/sigs about any form of protest, and boycott week coming, it'd be a good idea to have somewhere to meet while people feel motivated to bother going there, rather than wait for a full website to be built. (IÂhad suggested talk.general.specific in my earlier comment, but turns out there's still people meeting there...damn.)
Also, I found the Slashcode repository earlier thanks to someone pointing to the old FAQ -- here's the page for the last version, dated 2006. If someone with the knowledge/ability gets it going on a site, I think more than enough Slashdotters would contribute to pay the bills if needed.
Adding: What the fuck?! Between the comment IÂleft 10 minutes ago and now, the comment-posting box changed to look like a screwy hybrid of Classic & Beta (complete with the text box being 1/4 normal size), and as far as IÂcan tell, I'm still in Classic mode! What the hell, are they screwing with Classic now, too?
Adding #2: OK, some of my spaces are now inexplicably coming up as garbage characters as if I used Unicode... IÂgive up, this *really* makes no sense!
Hey, do you not think Slashdot has probably got the message now, what with endless thread hijacking and the 800+ comment story where they specifically asked for feedback?
To bring this back on topic, you posting about beta now is ever bit as much an asshole move as wearing Glass into someplace people don't want photos.
#IAmAPersonWhoWantsToReadFuckingTopicalCommentsNotYourPettyVendetta
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
735c9a1a20b2819611a86ea28b86beb0 2caae0817b267308f0f9292bafc3513d
I actually looked at the beta site and I do have to say that it looks
truly horrible, yes. So, although everything is offtopic everywhere today,
apparently, let me also chime and say:
Please keep the old system in place. It wasn't broken, so please don't fix it.
It's not annoying to the people that matter! It's only annoying the readers you morons.
In fact, do to incessant whining I've decided I really like Beta quite a bit and can we keep it just as it is? I'm going to fight hard for Beta now just because I know it pisses you off.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Very nice blog thanks for share each other www.cloudwalks.com
The internet wants to know.
Sorry but... actually it doesn't.
Most of it has just seen the beta site for the first time, and feels a bit sick at the moment.
Youre right.
Giving cops Google glasses will only encourage the smart ones to abuse their abilities and the dumb ones to hang clip-ons on them.
But I couldnt have read about it on my not-so-smart-but-more-secure phone, because BETA looks like garbled ass on it.
*Repent!Quit Your Job!Slack Off!The World Ends Tomorrow and You May Die!
In what way is Slashdot a cash cow for them? I've been using it for more than a decade, and never paid a penny. Most of the time I've had ads switched off. And blocked with ad-block anyway. And even those odd occasions when ads have been switched onI've never clicked on one.
I'm sure that describes much of the slashdot community.
wearing these? And will they be liable if they are involved in a crash while driving distracted by same?
The USA is only 4X older than me...perspective
The primary activity of beat cops is neither tracking down bad guys nor preventing terrorism, but dealing with drunks.
I piss off bigots.
In what way is Slashdot a cash cow for them? I've been using it for more than a decade, and never paid a penny. Most of the time I've had ads switched off. And blocked with ad-block anyway. And even those odd occasions when ads have been switched onI've never clicked on one.
I'm sure that describes much of the slashdot community.
That the ads are there is evidence that it brings in money. Slashdot does not show ads for free, as a public service. Ad revenue are based on several factors - exposure (views), click-through, and targeting.
What brings exposure here at slashdot are the discussions. The contributors, not the headlines.
What increases targeting is that we're a fairly homogenous group. You'd have much more success hawking a PS/2 keyboard here on Slashdot than you would have hawking eyelash curlers. This makes ads on slashdot more valuable to a keyboard manufacturer than, say, an ad on vanity fair.
What Dice Holdings may hope for is an increase in click-throughs by attracting a "wider audience" (and I don't think they mean CowboyNeal).,
What they don't understand is that that wider audience won't come here if the discussion system doesn't work, and all the contributors leave.
And leave, we will. We're fickle. But without us, there are no advertisers.
What's pathetic is that this show is run by the former general manager for Yahoo Video. What's Yahoo Video, you may ask? Exactly.
I'm loving the beta! Good job guys; beautiful, sleek, modern look, and it works great! #fuckfuckbeta
s/[stupid comments]/[intelligent discourse]/gi
I'm refusing to take sides in the beta kerfuffle, but that was pretty funny and apropos.
"The wisdom of the Patriarchs was that they *knew* they were fools." --Master Foo
Google Glass will suck. Here's a typical use case:
Judge: Did Google Glass record the encounter?
NYPD Official: Yes, Your Honor.
Judge: Present that as evidence.
NYPD Official: Ok, I...oh. There was a technical failure -- it's gone!
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
What will be the focus in augmenting the police officer in this way? Facial recognition, license plate recognition, voice recognition, and easier maintenance of dossiers on private citizens come to mind. Feeding camera video of fleeing suspects, floor plans of houses and apartment buildings, and outstanding warrant information directly to officers already lawfully interacting with people does too. This has great promise but comes with a great threat of misuse.
It's not like recording how stupid and law-breaking the police are will suddenly make the union allow the NYPD to fire them. They'll just whine about monitoring and blah blah blah. It's the same old bullshit as keeping bad teachers around.
Ye flipping gods... I just went and looked at the beta site.
Whoever signed off on that design needs to have their head examined.
Mr. Hu is not a ninja.
Will they be driving while using those? Wasn't someone arrested for wearing them? Of course they're cops so the laws don't apply the same...
I've got better things to do tonight than die.
urge... to kill... rising...
For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
Now I can watch the Mets/Reds game while writing tickets!
Homeland Security has already captured 2,000 pieces of stolen art while searching for terrorists supplies or weapons being shipped into the US. In some cases individuals on the receiving end of an art purchase had no clue that the art work was stolen. The loss to the buyer can be quite large.
How large would you say the loss to the buyer is relative to the loss of the person from whom the art was stolen?
We'll network about that murder strategy of yours, X. I think it has potential for impactfulness, but we need to cover all the modalities for rapid corpsification.
(I'm really hoping to get a job with Dice.)
The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
Heh. alt.geek died years ago and some of us former posters made a Facebook group called "alt.geek refugees", and I think there's a similar group on G+.
I'm sad that Usenet is basically dead save for binaries and a few text froups, some features of the newsreaders have yet to be surpassed.
Hail Eris, full of mischief...
E pluribus sanguinem
Seriously, I want to see this become an episode of Brooklyn Nine-Nine. I feel quite confident that the writers of that show can come up with every possible stupid result of cops using Google Glass.
#naabhaprzrag, #sverubfr-000, #agi-fcbafberq, negvpyr[pynff*=' negvpyr-ary-'] { qvfcynl: abar !vzcbegnag; }
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs...
Unity? Screw that: XFCE. Slashdot Beta? Screw that: SoylentNews. Australis? Screw that: Pale Moon. UX developers DIAF
aside from the obvious anti-beta statement that's required -- i think having cops wearing these would be a great thing. how much less shady shit could they get away with if every interaction they have with the public is recorded and available in court? Or simply knowing that they're being recorded would probably make them think twice before doing anything borderline.
and yes, fuck beta. =/
altslashdot.org is working on it.
0xB315AA8D852DCD3F3DCA578FD2E0BF88
oh and FUCK BETA what I want is a HTTP 4.0 site no CSS, no java. FUCK BETA
0xB315AA8D852DCD3F3DCA578FD2E0BF88
Just came back here for sh*ts and giggles after approx 8 years. Checked out the beta site. Immediately my whole being relaxed. I could finally read the stories, enjoy the comments. Its so much cleaner and clearer and than before. I'd say to the current owners of Slashdot. Make the change. Quickly. Some of the neck-beards here would like you to run an ad-free site that looks like a circa 1985 newsgroup, while you keep taking fistfuls of money out of your wallet to run the servers and pay the employees forever without hope of any return. Not sustainable. Not matter how we would want it like that.
Newsfollow.com