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Wine On Android Starts Allowing Windows Binaries On Android/ARM
An anonymous reader writes "Wine on Android is happening slowly but surely ... Wine is now in a state to be able to run your favorite Windows (x86) game on your Android-powered ARM device, assuming the game is Windows Solitaire. Wine has been making progress on Android to allow simple applications to run on Wine, but they have run into some challenges, as noted in the annual talk at FOSDEM."
Dammit, Dice, I thought you said you heard us. I don't want to use beta, stop redirecting me there PLEASE. I didn't want to do the stupid boycott thing, but when I came into work this morning and found myself on Beta... well, I think I'll just leave.
Beta killed you.
Call me back when I ran run my Captain Keen from Floppies!
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I need my DRM because I'm a stupid Valve loving moron!
http://video.fosdem.org/2014/AW1120/Sunday/Wine_on_Android.webm
The interesting thing about this is that when using Beta, the default view is to show everything. So, if you are using Beta, these trollish anti-beta things are perfectly visible, while if you are on Classic they just get filtered out with the rest of the trolls. So, if you really like Classic and hate Beta, the best thing you can do is try to post an anti-beta, pro-classic threat to leave the site as first post instead of Frosty Piss or whatever. That way, if any advertisers to who Dice is trying to market its new shiny actually check out the site, they will see the user dissatisfaction with the design immediately. Then, in subsequent threads we can go on having our usual geeky conversations in Classic.
What about ARM executables? Windows RT ships with most of the Windows utilities ported to ARM, as well as Office and .NET.
This is of course where Quantum Cryptography comes in. Photons all have specific polarizations. You can send a stream of randomly polarized photons through a polarizing filter, and photons with the same polarization angle as the filter will pass, while those with a polarization rotated 90 degrees with respect to the filter are blocked. What then happens to photons that have some intermediate angle? On the macroscale, we can say that the intensity of the light is a function of the angle, and infer that at a 45 degree tilt, 1/2 of the light is blocked, and 1/2 passes through. Enter Quantum Mechanics. It is fairly obvious to see the effect that polarizing filters have on a large scale quantity of light, but what about individual photons? Since the intensity of light at a 45 degree angle is 1/2 its normal value, one can infer that one half of the photons with a 45 degree polarization pass through, while one half are blocked. Simple enough. But if you send just one photon through with a 45 degree polarization, can you determine whether it will pass through? The answer, surprisingly enough, is no. You cannot determine whether a photon will pass through, and you will not know whether it passed through until it hits (or fails to hit) a detector on the other side. Can't determine? That makes it a random process, perfect to set up a OTP. It happens to have some interesting side benefits as well. Since the possibilities are pass and blocked, two possibilities- a string of photons sent at the filter produces a random binary sting of 1's (passed) and 0's (blocked). There is another fascinating benefit- if someone tries to sit in the middle of the photon stream and determine photon polarization, their eavesdropping will be evident- by checking the polarization of a photon in transit, they change the value of the polarization. All two people using quantum crypto need to do is confirm a few values that were sent (this can be done insecurely, since these values will not actually be used in the cipher pad)- if they match up, then send the message, encoded with the OTP, if not, someone is eavesdropping, and so discard the pad. It's a lot more complex than that, of course, but that's the general idea- you can use QC to generate a one-time pad, and then send it in such a way that you know whether or not you're being spied on.
there are no windows apps that are not already on android and why would you run insecure trash windows apps anyway. wine devs can go home now, there is noone wanting windows crap anymore. is microsoft funding this disaster of a dev group. what possible advantage would there be running crap windows apps on android. android is so much better than anything else on this planet except jolla.
fuck beta.
This was already done on the N900 (ARM!) using qemu, and it even had acceptable performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3v4YC9RT-g
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So now WINE *is* an emulator? Thats a tough acronym to sell, recursive or otherwise. I guess really the QEMU package is the emulator, but still.
refactor the law, its bloated, confusing and unmaintainable.
that it takes the linux open source community to port windows programs to smart phones.
We've been asking for this from MS for EVER. MS keeps worrying about how to win the smartphone war...
They're morons. They'd win instantly if they allowed windows apps to run on the windows phones. Yes yes... there are problems. None of them are impossible to solve. Do it or pay someone to do it.
I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
you obviously have never used WinPh 6.5 or earlier incarnations of windows phones. There is a reason why desktop apps suck on smart phones and I think microsoft is finally starting to understand the reason. There is also one hell of a good reason why mac os10 is different from their touch os IOS. Microsoft is just starting to understand the difference and is why we will see a re-release of seven to replace the fiasco which is 8.
Kudos for the wine guys proving that you can guild turds though and run ms crap apps on arm. But the only way using any of them makes any sense is if you hook up a keyboard and a moose to your cell phone LOL. There is nothing more stupid than running desktop apps on tiny touch screens...OH except SLASH BETA
I guess they'll have to change their name at this sage, won't they?
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fuck beta!!!!!!
How long until I can run MAME through WINE on my Android device. This way I can emulate an older game system while emulating Windows. If the game system I'm emulating is old enough, the resulting processing slowdown of the double emulation might add to the realism of the game system emulation!
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I'm an addict. I forgot I was supposed to be boycotting. I was going to read and not comment.
I manage not to be addicted to anything else, and I've tried this and that now and again. But Slashdot is a motherfucker.
In conclusion, Fuck Beta.
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Squeaky wheels and all that.
What happened to the old comment ranking system?
don't understand the idea of a protest?
Not often are chanters at a picket told "Yo, guys, we get it, low wages. you can stop now."
I have been considering dropping slashdot from sites I visit daily because of this whole beta, but not because of the beta, but because of the idiots who rage on about it.
Stop hijacking every damn post with your stupid beta complaints.
I think Wine ought to focus on making sure 99.9% of WIndows apps run on x86 before it starts thinking about other platforms. As it stands now, Wine's support for applications is so spotty that it falls far short of allowing it to be a Windows replacement, and this really must be the goal of wine.
I mean, I've always fantasized about being able to run Windows applications on Windows!
Are they any Windows binaries that matter any more?
Does Windows matter any more?
The pinball game in windows is designed, someone once told me, to use pretty much all of win32. Don't if that's apocryphal or not, can anyone else say? I wonder if they'd move themselves forward by forcing themselves to get pinball working.
Except for all the proprietary office software that only runs on Windows.
Fuck Beta!
I think that very clearly the strategy for MS is to start selling Android-based tablets and phones with some kind of wine-like compatibility layer that allows running Office and other windows apps on tablets and phones, without trying to square the circle and forcing windows in an environment that it wasn't designed for.
In the longer run they can transition the same Android based OS (call it windows 10 or something) to home laptops and eventually in the office, before anyone else does (e.g. google, apple, amazon ...).
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Is for Steam to be ported to Linux-ARM. Then we'll have these games running natively on the devices.
The obligatory buck feta!
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