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The Death Cap Mushroom Is Spreading Across the US
Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "Discovery News reports that the death cap mushroom is now an invasive species on every continent except Antarctica. It is spreading along the East and West Coasts of the U.S. and appears to be moving south into Mexico. 'When someone eats Amanita phalloides, she typically won't experience symptoms for at least six and sometimes as many as 24 hours,' says Cat Adams. 'Eventually she'll suffer from abdominal cramps, vomiting, and severely dehydrating diarrhea. This delay means her symptoms might not be associated with mushrooms, and she may be diagnosed with a more benign illness like stomach flu. To make matters worse, if the patient is somewhat hydrated, her symptoms may lessen and she will enter the so-called honeymoon phase.' Without proper, prompt treatment, the victim can experience rapid organ failure, coma, and death. But good news is on the way. S. Todd Mitchell of Dominican Hospital in Santa Cruz, California has treated more than 60 patients with a drug derived from milk thistle. The patients who have started the drug on time (within 96 hours of ingesting the mushroom) and who have still had kidney function intact have all survived. 'When administered intravenously, the compound sits on and blocks the receptors that bring amatoxin into the liver, thus corralling the amatoxins into the blood stream so the kidneys can expel them faster,' says Adams. Still, Mitchell cautions against the 'regular look"'of deadly mushrooms. 'They smell very good and when they're cooked, many patients have described them as the most delicious mushrooms they've ever eaten.'"
'nuff said.
I have seen them every few miles, especially near certain ranges of markers. Some animals run up the hills crapping these out of their butt. I was considering picking up some to be analyzed at Mississippi State, but I decided against it. Unsafe. Not savory. Probably Bad for ya.
Men eat phalloides too, I guess. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
At least there is no chance in hell anyone would confuse them with Magic Mushrooms then ....
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An English language website, hosted in the US, owned by a US company, administered and run by US employees is US focused? It's shocking, I tell you.
over doing it a bit since they grow in Europe and I used to spend my time as a kid IDing fungi with my little book, yeah weird kid I know, and amanita genus have been particularly interesting to me. Also someone better tell this guy he shouldn't be doing that https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Apparently the mushroom only affects women.
There is another way to "cure" it, but, some people would laugh if they heard the "cure."
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That's why they say, if it tastes good spit it out!
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Mmmh, time for some Amanita phalloides and milk thistle soup!
Looks like the Killer Bees brought it with them from Mexico.
That's not what the article says at all.
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Is this hype because it is finding its way into the food supply in stores either via getting into commercial operations accidentally or being picked and sold as something else by wild collectors, or is it just journalistic pomp? Because, as somebody who regularly photographs fungi while out photographing native orchids, I'm willing to bet only a very small percentage of the population would ever even consider eating a wild mushroom. Even 90+ percent of my hiking buddies, all of them reasonably good at plant and fungus IDs, would never consider taking that risk unless it was something very expensive to just buy, like morels.
So, is there such a think as Xtreme eating (like extreme sports?)
If the people who ate them " described them as the most delicious mushrooms they've ever eaten.'" have all survived once they took the antidote, would other people consider eating this mushroom KNOWING that they were putting their life at risk (assuming they had access to the antidote)?
I mean is this akin to eating the "Fugu" fish (which I have!) where, for some, part of the attraction of the food is the possibility that you might die?
Are there other foods which are (potentially?) dangerous or deadly but are so tasty that it is worth the risk?
Clearly implying that only women are stupid enough to eat these poisonous mushrooms.
News for US nerds. Stuff that only matters to them.
Honestly, who is picking up random shrooms and eating them?
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European countries have used milk thistle for this purpose for centuries if not millennia, but US doctors have been blocked from using it by the FDA for years; they'd rather have people die than be cured by something not patentable. hopefully this situation will change someday, even if it has to be because Merck or another Big Pharma firm comes up with a synthesized, patentable work-alike drug similar to silibinin hemisuccinate.
After Sochi, comedians and internet posting wizards such as yourself would run out of material if we straightened out over here in The Colonies.
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To be fair, the story did note that, "the death cap mushroom is now an invasive species on every continent except Antarctica," and the last link was to an incident in Australia. So it could be coming soon to a table near you ... unless you are in Antarctica.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
Learn about mushrooms, and eat the ones you know and recognize, and don't trust what you did not pick yourself, it's quite simple.
An English language website, hosted in the US, owned by a US company, administered and run by US employees is US focused? It's shocking, I tell you.
Less than 30% of Slashdot's community is from the USA (27.3%). If you want all us "furriners" to leave, you'll be doing an even better job of depopulating Slashdot than Beta has.
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How can it be an invasive species on every continent except Antarctica, unless it either originated in Antarctica (which I doubt) or in outer space (which I doubt more).
Men eat phalloides too, I guess.
They may, but in their majority they still show a preference to the muscaria type. (nothing wrong with this either)
Questions raise, answers kill. Raise questions to stay alive.
At least once.
I consider anyone who eats mushrooms to have suspect decision making processes.
Slashdot is tech-political hybrid msm news website
It appears that only females have symptoms.
It's shocking, I tell you.
Nobody questioned WHY Slashdot had a US focus, that's clear and understood. You've clarified that this is YOUR site and you're not prepared to reduce the UScentricity. And that's fine if that's what you want, it's yours to do what you want with. OP was just asking if anyone knew of a better alternative for people who aren't interested in US "news".
So the question still remains, do you know of somewhere better to discuss (international) tech issues?
I have eaten plenty of wild mushrooms but only in Europe when I was young under my father's supervision. One time I even found a wild asparagus stock and ate it. Interestingly enough is that when I was back here in the states walking through the park. I saw some mushrooms growing and ask my dad about picking them. He said not to because he wasn't familiar with american mushrooms having grown up in Sweden. So don't pick mushrooms up if you're not familiar with the local mushrooms....
eaters. But there are no old, bold mushroom eaters.
And why not, she can eat whatever she wants, its her right, right ? I mean its not like you need a vagina to eat shrooms and die.
You keep posting this link to the alexa stats. Although it looks like there has been somewhat of a drop lately, the statistics are pretty unchanged overall since last year.
An English language website, hosted in the US, owned by a US company, administered and run by US employees is US focused? It's shocking, I tell you.
The medium is different, but the sentiment is the same: By God I KNOW what this network is for, and you can't have it.
Ironic?
only shes eat it?
I'm guessing both genders may or may not consume deathcaps.
I really wish white knighting feminist wannabes would eat a whole bushel of them, though.
Protip: masculine pronouns are the standard when writing about unspecified people. If you want to be an asshat, use 'he or she', 'his or her', et cetera. Feminine pronouns are right out. You can't just randomly insert whatever gender pronouns you want. That's what your misbegotten ilk whines is the problem.
It's called "phalloides" for a reason...
No, Simple reason is Google, Microsoft, Intel, AMD, Oracle, Amazon, the FSF, IBM, and NASA. Not to mention Slashdot is a US based website, in english, and owned by a US based company. Your complaint is as dumb as if I went to France and complained about the lack of TV shows in english.
See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
only shes eat it?
No, they opted to use the pronoun that best describes your average, typical human on Earth.
Nope, 100% wrong.
English rules in all English-speaking countries default to the male pronoun when gender is general or unknown. Use of the female pronoun is ONLY in cases where you are only referring to females.
Any person using the female pronoun by default is simply trying to push some kind of agenda.
The Darwin Challenge.
Our current contestant is at Stage 1 and has gorged herself on 1 pound of prime poisonous 'shrooms.
Odds in Vegas are running 3 to 1 against her surviving 48hrs.
Care to play?
Click the link.
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No one said that "furriners" sic had to leave. They should just not be any more shocked that a US based website is going to be heavy on US centric news. It would be as silly as if I complained that BBC is too UK centric.
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only shes eat it?
I'm guessing both genders may or may not consume deathcaps.
I really wish white knighting feminist wannabes would eat a whole bushel of them, though.
Protip: masculine pronouns are the standard when writing about unspecified people. If you want to be an asshat, use 'he or she', 'his or her', et cetera. Feminine pronouns are right out. You can't just randomly insert whatever gender pronouns you want. That's what your misbegotten ilk whines is the problem.
I propose a compromise.
He is bigoted against women, so it's right out.
She contains "he" within it, implying that She cannot exist without He, and is therefore just as bigoted against women.
It is never appropriate to use in reference to a human.
So we'll just make a new pronoun, gender-neutral and species neutral: SHIT.
There, now everybody is happy. You're welcome, Humanity, feel free to address my Nobel Peace Prize to AC.
Sounds like Fugu might have some competition in the endorphin inducing meal department...
I think Harry Dresden used this antidote once.
One of my favorite TED talks is http://www.ted.com/talks/paul_stamets_on_6_ways_mushrooms_can_save_the_world.html. The guy knows his mushrooms . I never gave them a second thought until I saw the video. Just thought I'd share.
"abdominal cramps, vomiting, and severely dehydrating diarrhea"
Everyday at taco bell.
...a story about people eating random mushrooms they find growing on the ground...Santa Cruz has to be involved.
Everybody here is overreacting.
Nobody said it was necessarily bad that Slashdot was US-based. The OP just asked for a non-US-based one.
There's valid reasons for this. For one, it's generally understood that most English-language non-US sources include more international news, not just the news of that country (eg. the BBC is UK-centric but often understood to be less UK-centric than CNN is US-centric; this is hard to measure objectively but subjectively as a Canadian I find BBC news more interesting).
For another, it doesn't mean you're going to stop visiting Slashdot. Just no longer have it as a sole source of tech news.
Less than 30% of Slashdot's community is from the USA (27.3%). If you want all us "furriners" to leave, you'll be doing an even better job of depopulating Slashdot than Beta has.
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not trying to be rude, but do people eat poisonous, wild mushrooms without knowing? i'm just asking. I buy my mushrooms from the grocery store.
Every tech site is going to be US news heavy for the simple reason that Microsoft, Google, Intel, Apple, AMD, Cisco, and so on are all US based companies. CNN has an International version btw just as the BBC does. I will agree with you that the BBC is a great news service. As a Canadian all I can say is you guys suck. You should have made more episodes of Little Mosque, but you should have kept Reverand McGee and not had Yasar and Sarah divorce.
See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
An English language website, hosted in the US, owned by a US company, administered and run by US employees is US focused? It's shocking, I tell you.
You had me there for a while.
Every tech site is going to be US news heavy for the simple reason that Microsoft, Google, Intel, Apple, AMD, Cisco, and so on are all US based companies.
Today's headlines:
House Committee Approves Bill Banning In-Flight Phone Calls
The Death Cap Mushroom Is Spreading Across the US
South Carolina Education Committee Removes Evolution From Standards
FBI: $10,000 Reward For Info On Anyone Who Points a Laser At an Aircraft
Which US companies were you referring to again?
So, they get you high or what?
You are welcome on my lawn.
If you want all us "furriners" to leave...
he said FURRIES not furriners....
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"They smell very good and when they're cooked, many patients have described them as the most delicious mushrooms they've ever eaten."
Clearly this is proof of Intelligent Design. If I were God I'd definitely place these things everywhere they'd fit just to keep my people on their toes. Nature's land mines.
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That reminds me of the old Borscht Belt joke about the guy who's filling out his social security application and they ask him if he's ever been married.
He says, "Yes, I was married to first wife for a wonderful 15 years, but tragically she died from eating poison mushrooms. Then, I remarried and my second wife, after eight glorious years died, believe it or not, also from eating poison mushrooms.
"Then, I married my third wife, and we were together for four years, when she died from a cerebral hemorrhage...
"Bitch wouldn't eat the mushrooms.".
You are welcome on my lawn.
Yes, this is also how morons are removed from the gene pool.
Moron A, not thinking about how dangerous it could be, inconsiderately challenges his buddy, Moron B, to eat a wild mushroom, for fun.
Then Moron B, not thinking of his own safety and only of impressing his buddy and the $10, foolishly eats it. He then suggests Moron A do the same because it tastes good.
Later, neither Moron can figure out why they are feeling sick, and eventually they are removed from the gene pool.
Seriously, one of humanity's greatest evolutionary advantages is our brains. The impulse to ignore that advantage and instead react to the base impulse of a dare so as to fall victim to the survival mechanism of a lowly mushroom is something I would love to see bred out of humanity.
The good old ingrediants for any potion in Skyrim and Oblivion.
any one who has atlease gotten to level 5 in Alchemy would understand thoes ingrediants.
Fortunately, men are not at risk
Yes, men do not fall for the trap. Women see it and start thinking of all the ways they can cook it in the kitchen. Women are obsessed with kitchens and all things food, look at Eve.
Men had it made, perfection, immortality, perfect body, great lawn, we could fart and scratch our balls on silky smooth perfect grass in Eden. But Eve comes along her "kitchen obsession" kicks in and she starts bringing back foods to feed Adam, fattening him up, she breaks the rules and Adam has to suffer consequences along side the woman.
I wouldn't be surprised if many many cavemen died, they returned home with fresh Sabertooth tiger meat, but the woman had tried foraging picking plants "as they do" and feeds caveman poison ivy/oak/sumac and wipes out all Neanderthals!
She's.... Yup damn she's
God created misogyny.
har har :-)
Which demonstrates the typical horse-shit apathy toward Antarctica.
There already is a gender neutral pronoun.
It's called "they".
Well... And I'm saying this as a straight male... you can just as easily argue that the default language is sexist can you not? I think the agenda both sides should be pushing for is the adoption of a gender neutral pronoun, I see nothing wrong with "they" or "one" but that's just my opinion.
I have seen them every few miles, especially near certain ranges of markers. Some animals run up the hills crapping these out of their butt. I was considering picking up some to be analyzed at Mississippi State, but I decided against it. Unsafe. Not savory. Probably Bad for ya.
I would be more worried if the mushrooms made animals crap out of their eyes.
Any person using the female pronoun by default is simply trying to push some kind of agenda.
I think this might be the person you are referring to and her blog where she links the agenda...
In case you are interested...
Scientists have just discovered that the best solution is: DON'T go eat random fucking mushrooms in the fucking woods, you idiot!
so why are you here?
Someone went out of there way to gender type the moron who ate the death cap
As someone who's dabbled in mycology and grown mushrooms my understanding is you should never attempt to identify a mushroom in the wild before getting detailed information about what species actually grow in the local area. It's nearly impossible make a certain visual identification of a mushroom if you were to compare it against every other type mushroom that exists, even as an expert. This is also why getting information about new types of species in an area out into the public is so important.
"Most delicious mushroom they've ever eaten." Maybe I should tank up on sylimarin and go mushy hunting.
The Death Cap is something I learned as a child not to touch, and I teach my kids that too. It's pretty common where I live to learn which things in nature are edible and what to watch out for. I had the impression most people around the world had that kind of education "built in". Is that not the case in the US these days?
Why, yes! I AM new here.
The main reason these mushrooms are eaten is that they are misidentified as some similar looking edible species. The most frequent victims for these mushrooms are immigrants that mistake them for an edible species that they would find back where they were originally from. In the US on the west coast, that most often means immigrants from eastern Asia mistaking them for Volvariella, volavacea, commonly sold in supermarkets in cans as "Paddy Straw Mushrooms".
As far as being deadly, their lethality depends mostly on how much of them you eat. In a very general sense, if you eat some and don't seek medical treatment, your odds of dying are around 50%. With treatment (before the milk thistle extract), the survival rate was more like 90%.
There are lots of other mushrooms that also produce the same toxins in potentially deadly quantities. The ones that produce the most poisonings are Galerinas (especially G. marginata), since they resemble some of the hallucinogenic species of Psilocybe and can grow in the same habitats, at the same time, and even side by side with them. Lepiotas and Conocybes (Pholiotinas) can also be deadly in the same way, but don't generally resemble other mushrooms that most would want to eat.
There are lots of safe mushrooms and groups of mushrooms that are easy to identify accurately enough to eat without significant risk. Members of the genus Amanita (the ones these deadly ones belong to) don't fall into that category, unless you're a real expert. A lot of the "experts" that are referred to as such are people that can identify a few species (or maybe a few dozen species) in the woods - not somebody we should treat as a real expert. It's a bit like calling somebody who has done a "Hello World" program in a couple languages a programming expert.
If you want to learn enough to forage for your own wild mushrooms, you should contact a local mycological society. You can meet people who can show you how to identify some of the easier, safer mushrooms in your area.
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So? Females are the norm, and males the exception.
This is not so. By default each human cell is a male cell. Female cells have to be constantly refreshed into being female through hormone release.
The way it works is that when you are born male you have something called SRY and it increases SOX9 and decreases FOXL2 which is the "opposite" part of a cell that determines which gender it is. For females it is the otherway around. However, if a female does not suppress SOX9 they will develop male characteristics (this is why you can get an XX male). The cells default option is to move back toward "maleness" and this is why after menopause women and men aren't really that different (because at a cellular level they are tending towards the same gender expressions).
Really? To what rules are you referring? To my knowledge very few English-speaking countries have absolute authorities like the Academie Française in France. So we have grammar books, but grammar books are just "motivated opinion pieces" written by people, and most of them are conservative white men. The "motivated" refers mostly to "accepted usage in academic, journalistic and fictional literature". There are many areas (sociology, psychology, philosophy, linguistics, political science,...) where it is very common to see edited, peer-reviewed material from highly respected publishing houses using "she" as gender neutral. Obviously they accept it, so the grammar books should too.
Personally, it annoys me, particularly when both are used. Back at varsity I was discussing it with a flatmate (a lesbian feminist English Master's student no less!) one evening and she agreed it was annoying and that one solution would be to simply use one's own gender. This is still the most elegant solution I've ever heard.
It's just that so many Americans are so detached from nature and are afraid of that "you're standing on my property!" and getting peppered by bullets, that they don't enjoy nature...
Come on, that's not at all true. Visits to national parks in the U.S. are at all time highs, as are regional parks or just any park/forest - there is a TON of open land people can and do go exploring on all across the whole of the U.S. If you have never been I don't think you understand how much open areas there are even close to very densely populated cities.
I have a number of friends who also go out and collect mushrooms. I myself do not simply because to me the risks and effort to avoid the risks do not outweigh the slight benefits. It's not because "I'm afraid of being peppered by bullets" which approximately no-one is when wandering the countryside.
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The Death Cap is something I learned as a child not to touch, and I teach my kids that too.
Yes, but since it is spreading how would people have shown others to look out for it - and why would they bother when it's not supposed to be there?
That's why the warning is a good thing, for people to be aware the Death Cap could be anywhere and so you should always look for distinguishing signs.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
default to the male pronoun when gender is general or unknown
This is also common in latin languages.
As expected, the quality of the commentary has increased since the Beta Assholes chose to cleanse Slashdot of their vile presence. So it doesn't matter if site visits have slightly dropped, it seems the tiny minority that left added zero value to Slashdot and will not be missed.
Slashdot, do not let these people come back. Deploy beta this week and drive them away for good!
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
If they taste so wonderful, why not market a meal of these magically delicious mushrooms with a cup of milkthistle tea blocker! I'm sure you'd find takers.
so why are you here?
Inertia.
Slashdot has become really dull lately.
But you're right, it's time to move on, which is why I'm asking: "Are there any tech sites athat aren't so USA focused?"
If the mushrooms actually smell/taste good, they're toxic.
We've got the problem in California that there are lots of people who've come from places where mushroom hunting is a common occupation, and where there are local tasty mushrooms back in the old country which look a lot like our poisonous ones. And it's often not just one victim, it's a whole family who've been out in the woods for the day, picked the mushrooms, and cooked them for dinner. And now they all need liver transplants.
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Are there any tech sites athat aren't so USA focused? Slashdot has become really dull lately.
Could it be because its an invasive species there, and anyone in Europe taken into the woods by their parents as a kid will have been warned of the death cap mushroom, along with belladonna, cuckoo pint, and so on?
Which brings up the question: How can something be invasive on every continent except Antarctica, unless it comes from either Antarctica, out of space, or out of a lab?
So, where does this mushroom come from? It comes from Europe, meaning it is NOT invasive there.
Would you consider joining the slashcott? You remember what /. used to be like- so do the folks at www.soylentnews.org.
So if it's invasive on every continent except Antarctica, shouldn't that mean that it is native to Antarctica? Or possibly not land-based at all?
(Hint: it's from Europe.)
It's also just lazy writing - if you don't want to use the commonly accepted pronoun for a person of unspecified gender (he) then just work your writing around using one/they etc. In fact the quoted text looks awkward because of the insistence on using she rather than they or 'a person' or something:
'When someone eats Amanita phalloides, they typically won't experience symptoms for at least six and sometimes as many as 24 hours,' says Cat Adams. 'Eventually they'll suffer from abdominal cramps, vomiting, and severely dehydrating diarrhea. This delay means their symptoms might not be associated with mushrooms, and they may be diagnosed with a more benign illness like stomach flu.'
That wasn't so difficult, was it.
Death cap is a common mushroom in our region (western part of Russia and Baltics). You can find it easily in every forest but amounts vary by year. Despite the fact it is well known to any interested person, there are a few lethal cases every summer involving careless mushroom pickers. A cultural note: wild mushroom picking is considered normal everyday activity here, regardless your income and social status.
Actually its more normal to use 'they' when the gender is unknown.
He's not complaining, he is asking if there is a site better suited for his tastes. If there is one, I'd like to know about it also, as this site is becoming worse and worse all the time. I guess most of the sane moderators are gone, as the first posts I saw were complete crap. Either that, or something is broken. The design being broken is very apparent already. I have a tiny sliver of text and loads and loads of vertical lines and empty space.
Using feminine pronouns because you are a lesbian doesn't make it proper grammar. Fuck you in the cunt, bitch.
It's not an English rule, it's a rule valid in most, if not all Indo-European languages that haven't gone through a full shift from the original tri-gendered PIE system to something without the M/F distinction. Languages like Russian, Slovak, and Czech still keep the original three genders (well, four, if you count the animate/inanimate opposition in masculine as two genders, as many linguists do), and since the M/F distinction is still present in them, M gender is used in indefinite and interrogative sentences. French shed the neutral gender, but since the M/F distinction is still present, M gender is used in indefinite and interrogative sentences, as in other Romance languages. English has all but lost morphological gender distinctions, but since gendered personal pronouns survive, M gender pronouns are used in those indefinite and interrogative sentences that would require the use of some gendered personal pronoun.
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So we have grammar books, but grammar books are just "motivated opinion pieces" written by people, and most of them are conservative white men.
First of all, all modern grammar books and descriptive in nature. That means that they *describe* how the language is being used. You may call that "conservative" but that's just linguistics to you and me - it's a descriptive science. As far as "white" is concerned - well, guess what - Indo-European languages are spoken by white folks, since they came up with that whole thing! (An exception being immigrants, of course.) And as to the "men" part, some of the best grammarians I know happen to be female, and they don't appear to be pushing any sort of "conservative male agenda", if that's what you had in mind.
Ezekiel 23:20
well?
The time it took you to figure that one out indicates your sex.
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Wymyn, cant live with them, cant inter them to California.
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Did you ever get her drunk and try to turn her out to men?
Seems akin to the same risk / reward of scavenging for old land mines. "I know what I'm doing, trust me!"
I think that would require you to be pretty pedantic to accept. If Death Caps are native only to one small environment in Europe, but have spread in recent years into 90% of the continent, that would still make it an invasive species in most of Europe, though technically not for the arbitrary boundaries defining the continent.
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'They smell very good and when they're cooked, many patients have described them as the most delicious mushrooms they've ever eaten
We see this all the time. Of course they are going to claim this. Who wants to say "I almost died from eating this mushroom and it tasted pretty bad."? They are trying to put a good face on it. Just like the people who drink their own urine and claim a myriad of health benefits. Who is going to admit they drank their own urine and got nothing out of it?
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A dude wouldn't eat a mushroom.
Especially not this shape of mushroom. Well some dudes would...
Who cares if there are US-specific articles? You can just skip them.
I am not from US and still find this interesting.
Which brings up the question: How can something be invasive on every continent except Antarctica, unless it comes from either Antarctica, out of space, or out of a lab?
Easy, if it was native to a distinct island. While it's only a tiny bit of the land mass, there are a nice variety of islands out there which both can have (somewhat) exclusive life and (by virtue of being islands) are not part of any continent.
Bad-grammar option is that while they are native to some region of one continent, they are invasive to other regions on that continent as well as all other non-Antarctic continents.
Any person using the female pronoun by default is simply trying to push some kind of agenda.
Yeah, just like whoever writes the Dungeons and Dragons player handbooks!
Apparently wizard is not a legitimate career path, so I chose programmer instead.
Mycologists rejoice! Both Academic and Practical Mycologists are needed by all of the ignorant and uneducated.
A. Phalloides are quite common where I live, and I have been able to visually ID them since I was a kid. OK, I may have made a few mistakes, but a false positive in this area always beats a false negative anyday. After I learned how to do a spore print, I was ready to ID edible mushrooms. I have never picked and eaten a mushroom that I had not ID'ed properly.
There have always been people dying from eating poisonous mushrooms, since the beginning of time. This is no new danger, except for those that do not know what they are eating...
"Endeavour to persevere"
We have gender neutral pronouns. It, one, and you.
I can't stand using one anymore. I keep thinking of flying plant people and floating jellyfish.
"Lack of speed can be overcome. In the worst case by patience." --Znork
This is a native species (Amanita Phalloides) that is common throughout much of North America already. Not easily mistaken for anything else. The problem is that it is closely related to Fly Agaric or Amanita Muscaria which is a hallucinogen. What usually kills you with Fly Agaric is the antidote. When injected the doctor sees you reacting negatively to the antidote they inject much more thinking they did not give you enough for the poison, you then go into shock and die. To prepare Fly Agaric it needs to be cooked (just the skin from the cap) at a certain temperature for a certain time interval to be rendered safe. Even handling either type can introduce poison through the skin. I wouldn't advise messing with this species. Fly Agaric is the pretty yellow polka dotted
red mushroom you see in the fall.
Every website will be US heavy.
Slashdot is not just a tech website but a US based tech website so of course it will be US centric. You want less US centric go to Slashdot.jp.
Really complaining that Slashdot is US centric is as dumb as complaning that http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada is too Canadian centric.
See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
They were one of my favorite Death Metal bands from the 80's.
Some settling may occur during posting.
Or maybe trying to change the rules of English?
Catalan here...
In my country, mushroom picking is a national sport. Everyone devotes at least one weekend to the activity. The forests are full of people. (Forests are free to roam if not fenced, but much of the forest is public owned anyway)
There have been maybe 1 or 2 deaths for amanita phaloides in the past years. And maybe 2 or 3 more for other species.
The amanita is quite similar to a very tasty mushroom of the same family, but few people takes the risk of picking those if they are not really experts.
Here everyone knows that if you have any digestive simptoms shortly after eating own picked mushrooms you must go instantly to the doctor. You usually recover after the hellish days of your life
In the case of the phaloides, . You hava a high provability on getting a cronic a liver disease if you survive it, This mushroom not a joke.
There's also the third-person singular "they" which was widely used up until about a century ago when some grammarians decided that they didn't much care for it and were able to get their views published in the curriculum available at the time. It's only in the last few decades that the third-person singular use of "they" has finally begun to be recognized as grammatically valid again, rather than merely commonplace.
Quick aside: most people I've seen objecting to a third-person singular "they" object on the grounds that it's ambiguous with the third-person plural "they", yet very few of them voice similar objections to the ambiguity between the second-person using "you" for both singular and plural.
What happened to /.?
AirBag, spanish excellent film. (With a lot of details that were taken later by "Hangover" film), have a "Russian Omelette" scene just at the beginnning.
4 omelettes, 3 with amanita phaloides, one with amanita cesarea. The survivor takes it all...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbYRSvvRS9Y
Really really funny movie... One of the best spanish movies of all times.
only shes eat it?
"'When someone eats Amanita phalloides, she typically won't experience symptoms...Eventually she'll suffer from abdominal cramps..."
Easily transformed into gender-neutral style:
"A person who eats Amanita phalloides typically won't experience symptoms...Eventually the victim will suffer from abdominal cramps..."
Sloppy writing, writer has some sort of gender-agenda, lousy editing (the quote is from a Slate article)--take your pick.
Why? Because pronouns default to male? They're pronouns, for fuck's sake. If a language construct that has been around for centuries bothers you that much, you really need thicker skin. It is not an important issue, there is no malice intended on the part of people saying it and any possible effect it might have on anything is utterly negligible.
There already is a gender neutral pronoun.
It's called "they".
That is only appropriate in the plural though. When you are talking about an unspecified individual, they is incorrect.
And it is impersonal, implying the man or woman is an inanimate object unworthy of a gender.
so why are you here?
Inertia.
Slashdot has become really dull lately.
But you're right, it's time to move on, which is why I'm asking: "Are there any tech sites athat aren't so USA focused?"
You greatly exaggerate the USA-focus of the site. Out of the 15 stories currently on the front page, four have any sort of US focus, and two of those ("Bing Censoring Chinese Language Search Results For Users In the US" and "ICANN's Cozy Relationship With the US Must End, Says EU") are of great international importance and could hardly be called "US stories." One of the others ("Iconic Predator-Prey Study In Peril") is more science-in-general related even though it takes place in the USA, and the last ("Majority of Young American Adults Think Astrology Is a Science") is the only story that has a solely-US angle.
She? Try they whoever wrote it..
Might as well say 'when creatures...'
So, where does this mushroom come from? It comes from Europe, meaning it is NOT invasive there.
Not by the typical definition of invasive, as species are not evenly spread throughout the whole continent. A species can be both native to one part of a continent, and invasive in another part.
Driving on the right side of the road is the norm, too. Are you going to insist on doing that in England?
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It may not have been difficult, but your effort was unsuccessful. "Someone" is singular, "they" is plural.
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"When someone eats Amanita phalloides, she typically won't experience symptoms "
She.. so what happen if a "he" eats one?
Oh yeah and what the heck happened to the "ban" on exclusive language?
Let me see --- if you want to say 'he" you must put "he or she" but if you wan to say "she" that's acceptable.
Do I understand now????
You're the "man!!!" or should I say person??
Great post!
Excellent post, but you are assuming that they actually care about learning the truth.
They will always have their blinders on.
I've been picking mushrooms since I was 7. And the first rule you learn is to not pick the mushrooms you are not sure about. In case of doubt don't pick. My grand parents and parents were picking shrooms their whole life, and AFAIK no one ever got sick because of it.
Mind you that in Russia this is something that most people do and it is seen as the most normal thing.
First of all, all modern grammar books and descriptive in nature. That means that they *describe* how the language is being used. You may call that "conservative" but that's just linguistics to you and me - it's a descriptive science. As far as "white" is concerned - well, guess what - Indo-European languages are spoken by white folks, since they came up with that whole thing! (An exception being immigrants, of course.) And as to the "men" part, some of the best grammarians I know happen to be female, and they don't appear to be pushing any sort of "conservative male agenda", if that's what you had in mind.
Eh... you misunderstand. You say that Linguistics doesn't say "you can't say 'she' for the neutral pronoun". I know this, I have a first-class honours degree in Linguistics. Linguistics is (supposed to be) about describing "language" and "languages", though in reality it actually does a lamentable job of it (let's not go there...). However, I'm not talking about Linguistics at all. The sort of claim "you can't say/write 'she' for the neutral pronoun" has nothing to do with description - if it did it would be terrible because obviously many, many respected publishing houses allow it. Though with that I am assuming you are allowing "written language" in the study of language... There are, however, (probably) still lots of prescriptive grammar books out there that make this sort of claim, and many English teachers no doubt too. That makes any descriptive claim false and any prescriptive claim outdated (because "languages" change and this change is happening).
And you need some serious updating on your demographics knowledge if you think only white people speak Indo-European languages...
FTFY
Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
"I know all mushrooms great and small,"
Said William Harvey Snooks.
And passed from the parlor to the hall
My how natural he looks.
There already is a gender neutral pronoun. It's called "they".
That is only appropriate in the plural though. When you are talking about an unspecified individual, they is incorrect. And it is impersonal, implying the man or woman is an inanimate object unworthy of a gender.
But I think it's becoming (or coming back into) regular practice:
From http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/words/he-or-she-versus-they
Dark Reflection
At that point it becomes a matter of scale. The death cap is native to Europe, where it is widespread. (according to a 1974 paper). If something is "native" to 90% of the continent and "invasive" in 10, do you still label it as "invasive to the continent" ? And after which timeframe does it stop being invasive and starts counting as native?
But they're not native to only one small environment, they're listed as "widespread" across Europe. How natively widespread does it have to be for you not to count it as "invasive for a continent". And when does it go from invasive to native?
Having a good reference book, and experience hunting with someone who knows what they are doing reduces the risk...
You could go out hunting for a cheese burger and get a fatal E. Coli infection too..
YMMV.
Agenda?
Christ you people read into things.
However, if a female does not suppress SOX9 they will develop male characteristics (this is why you can get an XX male)
This is called 'male', but that seems like more of a judgement call than anything. A person with this condition is sterile. A person with XY chromosomes (therefore lacking FOXL2), but defective SRY turns out more like a female actually: XY female.
ROTFLMAO @ "Chumpy" -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
(You sure "talk a good game" -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm... but you can't even produce a MERE SCRIPT!, windbag...)
You aren't even on the leve of a "script kiddie", & full of HOT AIR!
You certainly won't reply there in that 2nd link I posted either, as that would remove your downmods to my posts like this one you can't validly disprove or justify your downmod on -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm...
Oh, I suspect that IS the case here (simply logging out of a registered account & trolling by ac is a common troll trick around here OR using alternate registered 'luser' accounts sockpuppets to do the job will also, & Lumpy is LOADED with those & trolling - which doesn't matter: He PROVES he's all talk, no action (or skills, OR brains, lol))
(You're all TALK, & NO action "CHUMPY!)
* :)
(You know it, I know it, & so does anyone reading AND laughing their asses off @ you now... lol!)
APK
P.S.=> Answer the question in the subject-line Lumpy - since you had to "eat your wrods" in the 1st link above flavored with your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH + the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat", lol...
... apk/b
ROTFLMAO @ "Chumpy" -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
(You sure "talk a good game" -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm... but you can't even produce a MERE SCRIPT!, windbag...)
You aren't even on the level of a "script kiddie", & full of HOT AIR!
You certainly won't reply there in that 2nd link I posted either, as that would remove your downmods to my posts like this one you can't validly disprove or justify your downmod on -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm...
Oh, I suspect that IS the case here (simply logging out of a registered account & trolling by ac is a common troll trick around here OR using alternate registered 'luser' accounts sockpuppets to do the job will also, & Lumpy is LOADED with those & trolling - which doesn't matter: He PROVES he's all talk, no action (or skills, OR brains, lol))
(You're all TALK, & NO action "CHUMPY!)
* :)
(You know it, I know it, & so does anyone reading AND laughing their asses off @ you now... lol!)
APK
P.S.=> Answer the question in the subject-line Lumpy - since you had to "eat your wrods" in the 1st link above flavored with your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH + the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat", lol...
... apk
Since YOU had to "eat them", ROTFLMAO @ "Chumpy" -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
(You sure "talk a good game" -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm... but you can't even produce a MERE SCRIPT!, windbag...)
You aren't even on the level of a "script kiddie", & full of HOT AIR!
You certainly won't reply there in that 2nd link I posted either, as that would remove your downmods to my posts like this one you can't validly disprove or justify your downmod on -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm...
Oh, I suspect that IS the case here (simply logging out of a registered account & trolling by ac is a common troll trick around here OR using alternate registered 'luser' accounts sockpuppets to do the job will also, & Lumpy is LOADED with those & trolling - which doesn't matter: He PROVES he's all talk, no action (or skills, OR brains, lol))
(You're all TALK, & NO action "CHUMPY!)
* :)
(You know it, I know it, & so does anyone reading AND laughing their asses off @ you now... lol!)
APK
P.S.=> Answer the question in the subject-line Lumpy - since you had to "eat your wrods" in the 1st link above flavored with your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH + the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat", lol...
... apk
ROTFLMAO @ "Chumpy" -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
(You sure "talk a good game" -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm... but you can't even produce a MERE SCRIPT!, windbag...)
You aren't even on the level of a "script kiddie", & full of HOT AIR!
You certainly won't reply there in that 2nd link I posted either, as that would remove your downmods to my posts like this one you can't validly disprove or justify your downmod on -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm...
Oh, I suspect that IS the case here (simply logging out of a registered account & trolling by ac is a common troll trick around here OR using alternate registered 'luser' accounts sockpuppets to do the job will also, & Lumpy is LOADED with those & trolling - which doesn't matter: He PROVES he's all talk, no action (or skills, OR brains, lol))
(You're all TALK, & NO action "CHUMPY!)
* :)
(You know it, I know it, & so does anyone reading AND laughing their asses off @ you now... lol!)
APK
P.S.=> Answer the question in the subject-line Lumpy - since you had to "eat your wrods" in the 1st link above flavored with your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH + the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat", lol...
... apk
ROTFLMAO @ "Chumpy" -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
(You sure "talk a good game" -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm... but you can't even produce a MERE SCRIPT!, windbag...)
You aren't even on the level of a "script kiddie", & full of HOT AIR!
You certainly won't reply there in that 2nd link I posted either, as that would remove your downmods to my posts like this one you can't validly disprove or justify your downmod on -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm...
Oh, I suspect that IS the case here (simply logging out of a registered account & trolling by ac is a common troll trick around here OR using alternate registered 'luser' accounts sockpuppets to do the job will also, & Lumpy is LOADED with those & trolling - which doesn't matter: He PROVES he's all talk, no action (or skills, OR brains, lol))
(You're all TALK, & NO action "CHUMPY!)
* :)
(You know it, I know it, & so does anyone reading AND laughing their asses off @ you now... lol!)
APK
P.S.=> Answer the question in the subject-line Lumpy - since you had to "eat your wrods" in the 1st link above flavored with your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH + the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat", lol...
... apk
ROTFLMAO @ "Chumpy" -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
(You sure "talk a good game" -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm... but you can't even produce a MERE SCRIPT!, windbag...)
You aren't even on the level of a "script kiddie", & full of HOT AIR!
You certainly won't reply there in that 2nd link I posted either, as that would remove your downmods to my posts like this one you can't validly disprove or justify your downmod on -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm...
Oh, I suspect that IS the case here (simply logging out of a registered account & trolling by ac is a common troll trick around here OR using alternate registered 'luser' accounts sockpuppets to do the job will also, & Lumpy is LOADED with those & trolling - which doesn't matter: He PROVES he's all talk, no action (or skills, OR brains, lol))
(You're all TALK, & NO action "CHUMPY!)
* :)
(You know it, I know it, & so does anyone reading AND laughing their asses off @ you now... lol!)
APK
P.S.=> Answer the question in the subject-line Lumpy - since you had to "eat your wrods" in the 1st link above flavored with your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH + the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat", lol...
... apk
Whackjob libelers like you? ROTFLMAO @ "Chumpy" -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
(You sure "talk a good game" -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm... but you can't even produce a MERE SCRIPT!, windbag...)
You aren't even on the level of a "script kiddie", & full of HOT AIR!
You certainly won't reply there in that 2nd link I posted either, as that would remove your downmods to my posts like this one you can't validly disprove or justify your downmod on -> http://games.slashdot.org/comm...
Oh, I suspect that IS the case here (simply logging out of a registered account & trolling by ac is a common troll trick around here OR using alternate registered 'luser' accounts sockpuppets to do the job will also, & Lumpy is LOADED with those & trolling - which doesn't matter: He PROVES he's all talk, no action (or skills, OR brains, lol))
(You're all TALK, & NO action "CHUMPY!)
* :)
(You know it, I know it, & so does anyone reading AND laughing their asses off @ you now... lol!)
APK
P.S.=> Answer the question in the subject-line Lumpy - since you had to "eat your wrods" in the 1st link above flavored with your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH + the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat", lol...
... apk