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US Plunges To 46th In World Press Freedom Index
schwit1 writes "Reporters Without Borders puts out their Press Freedom Index every year, and the 2014 ranking came out today. It was not a good showing for the U.S. Specifically, the U.S. registered one of the steepest falls of all nations, down 13 slots to the #46 position, just above Haiti and just below Romania."
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The US has really fallen from its optimistic condition so many decades ago. And that failure is not the worst thing about it. It's the fact that no one in the US seems to care.
When all the news source belong to big corporations, how can one be surprised that press freedom is disappearing ?
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What is inferred is also the taking to task of journalists and their sources, which previously, have been sacred and off limits -- akin to a Catholic confessional. These days, journalists are being forced to reveal their sources, which precludes good journalism. The Fourth Estate needs to be protected.
Senators and Congressmen have threatened to assassinate the people doing the reporting (such as J. Assange). We know about it, but that is not exactly what one thinks of as 'press freedom' when the leaders of a country say they will kill the reporter.
It's too bad that the /. editor that posted this didn't dig into this shoddy piece of journalism before posting. You can read more about how arbitrary this "ranking" is at On The Media and then move along, there's nothing to see here.
Think for yourself, but have a look here.
Their statistics suck, even if their principles are sound.
The last true great work of independent journalistic investigationn was the Watergate affair. Since then, so-called journalists have been repeating the government's party line verbatim, or reporting on trivial shit that doesn't matter.
If anything, the Snowden documents, which should have been a bomb for the government, have never been exploited, and show that the 4th power is the lapdog of the 3 first, and has been for a very long time.
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Those leaks were reported through The Guardian, a UK newspaper.
Because those making the leaks need to flee the country and take asylum elsewhere, or end up imprisoned for years.
It's not about the presence of the leaks, it's about the way that the government has persecuted the leakers, and the members of the press they went to.
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Press freedom's drop was noticed because of Manning and Snowdon: now American-born reporters are afraid to come home. They've been threatened with both criminal charges and extrajudicial punishment for publishing the leaks. Net result? They get published in the UK.
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They were FIRST reported though the Guardian, but that hasn't stopped any US paper or other news outlet from covering the hell out of the story.
but this is just a rank based on a number calculated according to an arbitrary weighting of factors. It is possible that the rank drop of the US might have been less had the factors used in calculating the score been weighted differently, or the cases used to arrive at the score been characterized somewhat differently.
For example, the score weights "Pluralism" twice as much as "self-censorship" and four times as much as "transparency". Why? Can such things be weighted precisely at all?
The scores for these factors are likewise arbitrarily scaled numbers in the range 0-100. The ranking of each country is a linear combination of non-parametric factors; as such the rank on such a score is so arbitrary as to be practically meaningless, or at best very imprecise.
I think such a score might have some value in comparing a country's performance to its prior performance, or even to compare progress made in one country vs. another -- provided it is taken with a large grain of salt. But the nature of the score is such that very little can be inferred about country A vs. country B based on their relative ranks.
As a liberal geek I'm all up for harsh criticism of America as a nascent plutocracy, but this particular story is just manufactured controversy.
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Wait a minute, they're complaining that press freedom has dropped because of Manning and Snowden? Who exactly doesn't know about that because as far as I can tell the press ran wild with it. Seems press freedom worked rather well to uncover quite a lot.
If you'll recall, when Snowden's leaks first came out, the US press was making a concerted effort to assassinate his character in lock-step with the US Congress, White House, and other government agencies.
It was only when that failed that he started getting any US press support at all.
I was quite puzzled to see a country with lower Freedom index that North Korea. The gap is quite large (82 versus 85 points of 'non-freedom'). Even if they have described the method used (and misnamed it 'methodology', but thats separate story), they don't give detailed per-country factors, so it is not possible to understand _why_ given country is lower or higher in the ranking.
Actually, after reading further, it is based on _questionaire_. It might just mean that Eritrean citizens are allowed to complain about their country more than NK ones... or that NK data is based on imagination of journalists as opposed to interviews with ones which escaped from Eritrea.
According to this article, there are plenty of reasons to doubt these rankings, even if press freedom in the U.S. is worrying. And ranking changes like these are not new. Here are the U.S.' rankings over the last 10 years (there's a typo in their own press release, the U.S. actually fell 14 slots):
2004: 22
2005: 44
2006: 53
2007: 48
2008: 36
2009: 20
2010: 20
2011: 47
2012: 27
2013: 32
2014: 46
That seems...a bit inconsistent. Again, that's not to say there isn't plenty to worry about in the U.S., but I'd still take these rankings with a grain of salt.
Because those making the leaks need to flee the country and take asylum elsewhere, or end up imprisoned for years.
It's not about the presence of the leaks, it's about the way that the government has persecuted the leakers, and the members of the press they went to.
First of all... IF Snowden is a LEAKER then, by definition and by virtue of the paperwork he signed the government has the right (if not the obligation) to haul his butt into criminal court and store his living carcass in jail for long periods of time. If convicted...
The government does NOT have a "right" to incarcerate a person indefinitely, without convicting them of a crime.
Conversely, Edward Snowden does have a right to a fair and free trial, to face his accusers and the evidence they present against him, and to be judged by a jury of his peers.
None of which will happen under the current government.
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Horribly. It is only working out about 100 times better than if the other idiots got into office. It is still a miserable failure, but your implication that it would have been better with McCain/Palin is laughably idiotic.
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I think the difference is that when Watergate was going on there was an opposition party who benefited from making a stink about it. Therefore the reporting led to a significant call to action, which led to action. This is very different from the Snowden documents. In this case both sides are guilty and have entrenched interests so there is no call to action, therefore there will be no action beyond what little bit of a dog and pony show the administration has offered us so far.
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wget https://rsf.org/index2014/data...
cat index2.csv|awk -F ";" '{print $3" "$2}'|sort -n
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Not that I'm totally happy with the situation, but I wonder if this story is a bit exaggerated. Reporters Without Borders says that they made changes to their methodology. Suddenly the U.S. drops in rank. I think those two facts are related.
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None of which will happen under the current government.
How on earth can you KNOW that he would be unfairly treated? All they've done so far is to issue a warrant for his arrest and invalidated his passport, which is totally legal and within the bounds of the law.
I hate to break this to you, but Snowden *would* be fairly tried if he turned himself in to the USA or if they had managed to arrest him. There is ZERO evidence otherwise. He's lucky that it's the USA that's after him, because other countries would have killed him a long time ago. (And don't fool yourself, if the USA wanted him dead sans a trial, he'd be room temperature.)
So stop with this "He's being unfairly treated" nonsense. Nothing is further from the truth.
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None of which will happen under the current government.
How on earth can you KNOW that he would be unfairly treated?
You mean, aside from the existence of Gitmo, the repeated threats of death from various US officials, and the treatment Bradley/Chelsea Manning received when he/she was suspected of whistle-blowing?
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Wow, did you really just defend Gitmo? Because holding someone for 12 years without any sort of charge. Yeah, way to wave the 'freedom' flag.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-2...
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I'm not as convinced as many people are that the sky is falling, so I suspect the economy will eventually improve.
The thing that all the knee jerk poster here seemed to miss is that this is the first year on a totally different survey methodology.
Reporters Sans Borders (RSF) totally tossed out their prior methodology and went with a new questionnaire: http://rsf.org/index/qEN.html
Since this isn't the only source of input, you have to read also their methodology
which includes things never before even considered. It turns out that most of the qualitative measurements are done by RSF people themselves, rather than from input from these people in the field.
Quantitative questions about the number of violations of different kinds are
handled by our staff. They include the number of journalists, media assistants and netizens who
were jailed or killed in the connection with their activities,
So "netizens" are who exactly?
And why does that matter? Well, since they don't define it, we have to assume that anyone releasing information
over the internet counts as a netizen. So one Bradley Manning (35 year sentence) can account for 90% of the "Violence against reporters/netizens) score.
North Korea, not having any Netizens, presumably gets a perfect score in this regard. I suggest the whole thing is hopelessly biased.
As with any newly invented scale, you have to give it a few years for the truth (and the bias) to come out.
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And that was because the "5th estate", the internet press, was largely supportive of him.
Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
Funny. If I said I'm pondering killing $high_ranking_politician, I'm pretty sure my door would fly off its hinges within 24 hours.
I guess I must be more powerful than the average congressman.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Well, they can't win. If they stay anonymous, people will call it fake. If they go public, they're attention whores.
It's actually sad how we treat people who put their very life on the line to protect our liberty.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Did you even click the link? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-2...
The Saudi national, who has been held for 11 years and is one of 164 inmates, has not been charged with any offence and has been cleared for release from the prison in Cuba.
He was cleared for release in 2007, still hasn't happened. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...
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You're really not reading the link are you?
Look, GITMO is a *bad* situation with solutions that are only worse. Remember these guys are effectively POW's by international law, but it's not the Saudi's we are at war with so to where is he returned? If the Saudi's don't want him and the place he was picked up doesn't want him what do you do?
To answer, lets read the article...
He has permission to live in the UK indefinitely because his wife is a British national. They have four children and live in London.
Mr Aamer's case was raised by Prime Minister David Cameron in talks with US President Barack Obama at the G8 summit in June. [2013]
A Foreign Office spokesman said: "Mr Aamer's case remains a high priority for the UK government and we continue to make clear to the US that we want him released and returned to the UK as a matter of urgency."
He said the case had been raised with both Mr Obama and Vice-President Joe Biden, adding: "We are confident the US government understands the seriousness of the UK's request for Mr Aamer's release.
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When one bothers to actually look at the data, the rank for the United States is still higher than its ranking in 2006, 2007 and 2011. Since 2002, the United States press freedom has bounced back and forth between the 20s and 50s. This is not to say that there isn't merit to the deficits in press freedom that Reporters Without Borders points out; there are very legitimate concerns being raised about recent efforts by the current administration to crack down on leakers and whistleblowers. Yet because Reporters Without Borders is regularly changing their methodology, you can't really use the data to make a true comparison of any nation's change in rank beyond very broad generalizations. Here's a good story in the Washington Post that makes this point.
GITMO is a special case and ONLY involves enemy combatants detained on non-US soil.
enemy whats now?
Gitmo is a special csae because they made up stuff to be able to detain people indefinitely that they had no legal right to do so nuder domestic or international law.
The fact that they're prepared to make "special cases" as you put it, for people they don't like does not fill one with confidence.
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If there's anything to this, then IMHO, the American press is its own worst enemy by placing ideology above objectivity.
Always have redress in court... unless they assassinate you (by drone or other tool), or throw you in an overseas prison without access to a lawyer (hey, you just admitted that the government doesn't always grant its people their constitutional rights), or any of a number of other ways they have of making you go away. As for presumption of innocence, that's the second most blatant bullshit in your post (after "*always* have redress"); the government has acted from day one under the assumption that he's guilty. How the hell do you expect him to get a fair trial in those circumstances?
Oh, and as for the "way too many people watching" argument, did you miss the part where this whole thing started because of the government "trying something" and telling the only people in a position to catch them at it that it was illegal to say anything? How the hell are we going to know if the government "tries anything" unless somebody else blows the whistle on it? It's not like they'll do it in public... and if I were Snowden, I sure as fuck wouldn't trust somebody else to become a whistleblower on my behalf having just witnessed the way to government is treating whistleblowers these days. Nope, the only thing we know is that a very substantial part of the administration has already said that they consider him guilty, and the NSA has every reason to see him discredited and removed, and they routinely operate without proper oversight and have all the tools they need to see somebody found guilty. Hell, the fact that they were doing that (quite thoroughly without due process) is part of what led to Snowden's whistleblowing in the first place! You really think they'd keep their hands out of it, this time?
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