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New DOOM Game Not Dead: Beta Comes With Wolfenstein Pre-Order

cold fjord writes "Gamespot reports, 'Remember Doom 4? It's not dead! And it's now just called Doom, presumably. And there's going to be a beta. Anyone who preorders a copy of upcoming Wolfenstein: The New Order will gain access to the Doom beta. But Bethesda isn't saying when that beta might be. Or what platforms it will be on. It is saying, however, that you'll need to be over 18 to participate. Sounds like it might be a bit gory, then. More information can be found on Bethesda's Doom beta site.' Forbes adds that Wolfenstein: The New Order is set for release on May 20th."

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  1. oh no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And there's going to be a beta.

    Fuck beta.

    1. Re:oh no by plopez · · Score: 4, Funny

      Go with VHS.

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  2. Movies?!? by mythosaz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Doom starred The Rock.

    Were Doom 2-3 direct-to-video?

    Any details on if Doom 4 will have a theatrical release?

  3. Please stop recycling sequels renaming & dropi by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 5, Insightful

    /rant I wish people realize that they are fucking up searching for your product when they rename the sequel back at 1.

    Xbox
    Xbox 360
    Xbone One .. no it's not one .. its the third generation / version.

    iPad
    iPad 2
    iPad ... no, it's the 3rd or 4th generation ... does "iPad" refer to the latest version or the "iPad" original ??

    * I can understand the iPad Air because there wasn't a previous version, though technically it is the iPad 5.

  4. There's going to be a beta? by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 2

    Well, we all know how well that's going to turn out.

  5. Re:I remember Doom 3. by rogoshen1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    that was completely intentional.. the goal was to build mood and suspense through the lack of visibility.. they accomplished this. things like the 'duct-tape' mod kind of ruined the atmosphere :(

  6. ...And nobody cared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Carmack's gone, Romero's long gone, Id is now owned by Zenimax.

    Basically, nobody gives a shit about this game.

  7. Re:Did you play Doom 3? by 0123456 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Seriously, it was Doom 2 with better graphics. That's it.

    No, it wasn't. Doom 2 had some colours on screen other than black.

  8. Re:Did you play Doom 3? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Doom 3 barely resembled Doom 2. Nothing like the gameplay of the original.

  9. Re:Did you play Doom 3? by ACS+Solver · · Score: 2

    Not having anything new in gameplay was the point. Doom 3 was an old-school shooter, you with a huge arsenal of weapons vs. hordes of monstrosities from hell. And that was with amazing graphics. Doom 3 might have had really low resolution textures, but I think the lighting and shadowing remained unrivaled for years.

    Though Doom3 did have a minor novelty I wish more games adapted. It had a really nice way of interacting with in-game monitors and computers, and I can't remember if any other games have done the same. Certainly not many, if there are any at all.

  10. Fuck by memnock · · Score: 2

    Beta!

    oh, whoops, Doom beta, not /. beta.

    Well, whatevs.

  11. Re:Please stop recycling sequels renaming & dr by asmkm22 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Naming conventions are stupid, but I think you're overreacting a bit. Xbox One is named so because they are wanting to make it the ONE device to rule them all near your TV; not because they think people are going to somehow get confused about the difference between it and the Xbox.

    Apples naming conventions have been like that for 15 years. I was actually surprised when they tacked on the "2" to for the iPad 2, because they normally just name everything in a product line the same thing. You have to use either the year built, or the "generation" it belonged to. Again, that's one hell of a rant to last 15 years.

    At least they aren't naming things like TV manufacturers, where you get crap like UN46F6030FXZA, or TC-P65TZT60.

  12. Re:I remember Doom 3. by AdamHaun · · Score: 4, Informative

    1. It was way too dark. They designed it to show off John Carmack's fancy new real-time lighting engine, but went too far. You couldn't use a flashlight and a weapon at the same time, which was ridiculous and broke suspension of disbelief. (One of the first mods was called "Duct Tape", and did exactly what you'd expect.)

    2. The gameplay was repetitive. Every time you found a lit hallway with an item at the end, you knew that taking the item would cause the lights to go out and monsters to appear from behind hidden doors. This happened way too often, further breaking suspension of disbelief.

    3. The story wasn't very exciting. It's Doom. You already knew what was going on before you even started the game.

    4. Half-Life 2 came out three months later and revolutionized first-person shooters, particularly in the area of in-game storytelling. It was also the first (?) FPS to have a real physics engine with interactive environments. It still compares favorably with AAA shooters released in the last year. Doom 3 seemed mediocre by itself, but in comparison it looked even worse.

    That's the history. Personally, I think the Doom concept translates poorly to modern gaming. It is to first-person shooters what Tolkien-esque fantasy is to RPGs -- revolutionary in its time, but bland and generic today. Modern games need distinctive characters, settings, stories, and gameplay to succeed (artistically, anyway). All Doom's got are space marines and monsters, which is the same recipe that ruins most of the Aliens games. But that's another rant...

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  13. Re:Did you play Doom 3? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

    Seriously, it was Doom 2 with better graphics.

    Did you play Doom2 or 3 for that matter?

    I don't recall the vast outdoor expances with massive brawls involving hundreds of monsters in Doom 3.

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  14. I was excited right up to the word by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Bethesda"

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  15. Re:I remember Doom 3. by sexconker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that was completely intentional.. the goal was to build mood and suspense through the lack of visibility.. they accomplished this. things like the 'duct-tape' mod kind of ruined the atmosphere :(

    If that is the case, then why did they made the "duct tape" permanent in the BFG Edition?. I think there are better ways to create suspense.

    Because modern gamers are whiny little shits, especially console gamers (remember - the BFG edition was a console-focused rerelease and anthology).
    Choosing between a flashlight or gun was great design. It was intentional and it really shaped the game (as well as showed off the lighting engine).

  16. Re:I remember Doom 3. by sexconker · · Score: 2

    They made it really dark to deal with the fact that the engine wasn't powerful enough to render everything if you could see well.

    Outright lie. Darkness wasn't used to hasten rendering. To the contrary, the flashlight and muzzle flashes were dynamic light sources that lit up the environment and models. It was very taxing. Even modern games such as L4D2 (released a full FIVE years later) don't do it to the degree that Doom 3 did. In L4D2 you can only see your own flashlight and whether your teammates' flashlights are on or off. The only dynamic light source is your own flash light (and it's not very dynamic).

    It would have been far easier for Doom 3 to use global illumination and drop the flashlight and not have muzzle flashes be light sources.

  17. Re:I remember Doom 3. by sexconker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I found the lighting to be perfect and the duct tape mod to make the game far worse.

    It was repetitive, just like every single FPS.

    The story was Doom. This is not a con.

    HL2 didn't revolutionize shit. HL did. HL2 was hyped to no end, but it was a generic, boring shooter. The "story telling" revolved around watching other characters do things while you stood around. It wasn't new or special, nor was the story worth a damn.

  18. Re:Please stop recycling sequels renaming & dr by sexconker · · Score: 2

    /rant I wish people realize that they are fucking up searching for your product when they rename the sequel back at 1.

    Xbox
    Xbox 360
    Xbone One .. no it's not one .. its the third generation / version.

    iPad
    iPad 2
    iPad ... no, it's the 3rd or 4th generation ... does "iPad" refer to the latest version or the "iPad" original ??

    * I can understand the iPad Air because there wasn't a previous version, though technically it is the iPad 5.

    HTC has a new flagship phone - the HTC One 2.
    I swear I'm not trolling you. I love to fucking troll, but HTC beat me to it.

  19. Milk. Milk. Milk. by msobkow · · Score: 2

    Suck that demographic dry...

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  20. Re:Did you play Doom 3? by hermitdev · · Score: 2

    No, Doom 3 wasn't just Doom 2 w/ better graphics. Yes, Doom 3 was still the basic scripted FPS. But, they added new means to the scripting. Enter room, kill everything. Done. Now what? Doom 2: you're done, free to leave. Doom 3: head up the stairs, and a new demon materializes out of the stairs in front of you. I wasn't expecting that, the first time. Another shocker in Doom 3 was the, for lack of a better term to describe them, the flying babies. First time you encountered them, you're walking down a hallway with fog on the floor. You hear a baby crying in the distance, and you get closer and closer and closer. Eventually, you see the head of the baby, but that's all you see, sticking out of the fog. Once you get close enough, the little fucker flies at you and you blasting away at it with your shotgun. Id had just gotten you to fucking fire a shotgun at a baby. Yes, not a real shotgun, but still. That was more that a little fucked up.

  21. Re:Please stop recycling sequels renaming & dr by Malizar · · Score: 3, Funny

    That is ok, I am waiting on Windows 180, when Microsoft does a complete turn around and puts out a good operating system.

  22. Re:I remember Doom 3. by fsck-beta · · Score: 2

    Queue the Valve fanboys! Nothing Gaben does could ever be less than perfection!!!11