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Slashdot Asks: Do You Label Your Tech Gear, and If So, How?

At last month's CES, I mislaid a microphone that I'd just bought: too many items in little black pouches, and that one disappeared on a patch of dark carpet when I got something else out of my bag. A few minutes later, when I realized this, I walked back to find (no shocker) that it had walked away, and the lost mic somehow never made it to the Lost & Found office. Dumb as I felt for having let it get away, the real sting is knowing that I didn't so much as have my name on it, which I like to think might have nudged a morally ambivalent finder into returning it. My question is this: How do you personalize, label, or mark your expensive tech goodies, so it's harder for them to be innocently or less-innocently taken away? Even at a LAN party, it's easy for items to get swapped around and confused. I've sometimes put my name or initials (in permanent ink) on any flat surface I can find that will fit it, but even the "permanent" ink of Sharpies seems to fade on many surfaces. Stickers degrade with heat, time, and bag jostling, but they certainly help. Is engraving the best permanent option? Have you used one of the physical tag services, like Boomerang, and has that ever actually come in handy for you? There's theft-deterrent (or at least post-theft tracking) software, as we've mentioned a few times on Slashdot, but many things aren't suited to it, like my lost mic. What do you do to keep your stuff yours?

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  1. Today, in /.'s Fake User Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Really, guys...

    1. Re:Today, in /.'s Fake User Question by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Really, guys...

      An even scarier thought. It's NOT a fake question.

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    2. Re:Today, in /.'s Fake User Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then he is brave for asking a dumb question.

    3. Re:Today, in /.'s Fake User Question by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      Then he is brave for asking a dumb question.

      No .. not brave as that is what he is paid to do. Its the slashdot version of the shock jock.

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    4. Re:Today, in /.'s Fake User Question by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Dumber than asking a stupid question is not asking it.

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    5. Re:Today, in /.'s Fake User Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, this IS dumber.

    6. Re:Today, in /.'s Fake User Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually the permanency of permanent markers today is not permanent in any way, especially not Sharpies, a cotton ball and some rubbing alcohol or even a baby wipe will remove the tag in less than a minute. Food for thought...

  2. non-issue by rubycodez · · Score: 5, Insightful

    some of us have grown up, and longer go to either trade shows or LAN parties 8D

    on a more serious note, get an engraver

    1. Re:non-issue by P1 · · Score: 1

      Engraver is the answer!

    2. Re:non-issue by Technician · · Score: 2

      A laser printer does a much nicer job. Look for Laser Engraving services in your area.

      Google link to some very nice jobs on laptops https://www.google.com/search?...

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    3. Re:non-issue by rubycodez · · Score: 0

      that's just an opinion.

      the value in Apple products is in having a integrated system designed from hardware to drivers to OS to software products to work. The alternatives (windows, linux and BSD) sometimes have issues in that area on desktop side, just too many possible devices and interactions among them to guarentee support or robust function. that's one of the reasons that server side is better for Linux or BSD, smaller set of devices to focus.

      In the corporate world, where Windows office software is mandated, OSX is way to run that stuff under a full OS without Microsoft crippled semi-OS

      Also, as geek have to point out MacOSX being BSD makes for a kick-ass command line environment on laptop and desktop; Windows is just a mess with needlessly complex powershell and/or DOS command line.

    4. Re:non-issue by egcagrac0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      The immediate problem I see is that a laser engraver is a cool tech toy, and a lot of geeks might actually want to buy one rather than hire the engraving done.

      Once you own one, you'll probably want to take it to a LAN party and show it off... which means it will need to be engraved.

      This basically means you need to buy two.

    5. Re:non-issue by Idarubicin · · Score: 1

      Once you own one, you'll probably want to take it to a LAN party and show it off... which means it will need to be engraved.

      This basically means you need to buy two.

      Who wants to come to my engraver party?

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    6. Re:non-issue by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Funny

      This basically means you need to buy two.

      Or a mirror.

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    7. Re:non-issue by medgooroo · · Score: 1

      Picking on one point... Because if its made in america the salaries go to people who are superior humans? Whats so great about "Made In America"? Fuck karma.

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    8. Re:non-issue by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      One time, I found some cheap ass microphone at this thing, and it had a label on it. The label said "Stolen from this idiot at this thing" or so. So I tore off the label and engraved it "Property of my nutsack".

      If anyone steals it from me, no one can pretend to be me by name just by reading the label on it. Property of Jim Smith? Well I'm Jim Smith, yeah. I just have to admit that I'm stupid enough to engrave the fact that a microphone is property of my nutsack, and I get it back.

      The mic works real well. When I buy something that stores audio, the first thing I do is record a sound file to store on it: "This device is property of my NUTSACK." I got a notebook back this way.

    9. Re:non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple can't even figure out how to put a decent file manager in OSX without forcing the user the buy one for 40 bucks. Fucking retarded system.

    10. Re:non-issue by Technician · · Score: 1

      Actually the panel can be removed, and engraved in the machine. Remember to not watch the engraving with the covers removed so you don't engrave your vision. The covers do block the IR of the CO2 laser.

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    11. Re:non-issue by egcagrac0 · · Score: 1

      Engraving on a removable panel sort of defeats the purpose...

    12. Re:non-issue by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      what are you babbling about, I haven't needed to purchase any file manager. have you considered the possibility you are easily fooled by marketers of unnecessary things?

    13. Re:non-issue by coolsnowmen · · Score: 1

      and now eye protection.

  3. Use a strap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wrist straps work well since they keep the object(s) connected to you.

    1. Re:Use a strap by davester666 · · Score: 1

      But it makes for an awkward situation, with you standing on stage next to the podium, wrist strap connected to the microphone, while the speaker delivers their speech.

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    2. Re:Use a strap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if we all do though, we can set a trend!

  4. Do what they do at factories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Factories don't consider "permanent" marker permanent. It comes off too easy. They use paint markers instead. Available at all better hardware stores.

    1. Re:Do what they do at factories by egcagrac0 · · Score: 2

      Working in one of those factories, I actually learned which solvents take permanent marker right off.

      FYI: Sharpie doesn't hold up well against G3.

      Won a bet that way. A guy told me that permanent marker was permanent. I told him to write his name on something with one. Rag with flux remover, wiped it right off.

    2. Re:Do what they do at factories by plover · · Score: 2

      Sharpies are the worst. They fade to illegible after only a few years.

      I use a Brother P-Touch label maker. You can buy flexible tape that works great for tagging cables. I also use it to label wall-warts or external power supplies with the device they power. I used to use paper labels with clear packing tape wrapped over the tags, but the P-touch is nicer and easier.

      An honest finder will use the tag to try to return it to you. But if a thief finds your stuff and doesn't want your tag to remain visible, he's going to slap his own sticker over whatever markings you placed on it. To a first glance, it will seem to legitimately be his. It's much harder to defend yourself against them. I also inventory my gear with a phone app, taking pictures of my stuff and its serial numbers. It's much more useful to the police and to the insurance company if the stuff is stolen. Plus, the inventory app is great for keeping maintenance notes, replacement part numbers, etc. I use MyStuff2 for the iPhone, but I'm sure similar apps exist on other platforms.

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    3. Re:Do what they do at factories by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Sharpies are the worst. They fade to illegible after only a few months.

      FTFY

      Well, if you keep things in a drawer, they might last for years. But if it's out on the counter / living room desk / work top in the laboratory, it'll be gone in months.

      As the parent says, for hand-written marks, "paint sticks" are better. Brands vary ; "Artline" are reasonably good, but will still fade after a couple of years, and if your goods are exposed to organic solvents (mine are ; yours may not) struggle to make it to 6 months. But then again, the equipment is often rotting by then anyway. Solder tends to corrode in the salty breeze on the ship, particularly with fumes of smoke from the drying ovens.

      P-touch labels seem stable enough, but getting them to lay flat can be a PITA. If there's a P-touch machine on board (and hopefully in regular use) then it seems good enough. Unfortunately we've all been burned by printers that take unusual sizes of consumables (e.g. most inkjets on the market) and which then go out of supply after a couple of years leaving you with an expensive paperweight. (Or, you can't get spares on this week's continent ; same effect.) So, do your sums on how much use you'll get out of it before investing. And don't expect the glue behind the tape to last if your cables are flexing in a damp environment.

      If you're needing to mark cables which are going to be in place until YOU have to come and re-build / repair / replace the system (say, a 5-year lifetime), from my time pulling cables in Ex-d and IS environments, the dog's dangly bits are Critchley markers. But don't expect them to be cheap - look at spending around a pint of decent beer per cable leg. (Obviously, you have to label each side of a cable going through a [gas-tight] transit block.)

      (I use the pint of beer as a time-invariant unit of value. They cost a quid-50 a pair when I started in 1989 ; they were about two quid-50 when I stopped doing this in the field, and I don't do the paperwork for restocking what I use in the maintenance workshop, but I guess it's still about a pint a pop.)

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    4. Re:Do what they do at factories by plover · · Score: 1

      I use the P-touch to print labels for plant tags in the greenhouse, and they've lasted several years with no failures in a 90%+ humidity environment. (To be fair, they don't get flexed on the rigid plastic sticks.) They're as legible today as the day I printed them. And with my handwriting, they're much more legible than my pencil scratches ever were. They're probably less than $0.05 each.

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    5. Re:Do what they do at factories by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      The wife refuses me permission to label plants in the garden, so I've no way of knowing what is what, or when it was planted (if I'd wanted to be able to identify plants, I'd be a botanist, not a geologist. Or I'd fossilize them, which tends to stop them growing).

      At a guess, you're sticking the tape back onto itself, not sticking it to the waxy cuticle of the plants (which would scar the plant, if it didn't just get sloughed with the outermost layer of cuticle. That would probably work in a greenhouse, but if you're threading your plants through cable transits, snaking them along trays and up walls ... you need your marking system to lay flat to the cable. A couple of mm stick up is OK - you need some clearance to get the cable through the obstruction - but 50mm of tag sticking out of the side of a cable will just snag, then get ripped off. Probably sufficient for tagging the cable as you're pushing them through, but if you had to go back later to re-build the scaffold to access the transit to re-label the cable up to specification... you wouldn't be popular.

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  5. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Then you're a fucking thief. It's not yours. Either fuck off or get it to a Lost&Found.

  6. Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Stickers can easily peel off. Engraving is easy to overlook unless the lighting is right. High-contrast "permanent" ink sticks around. Yes it fades over time, but it only takes a few seconds per year to freshen it up.

    For electronics I also try to put contact info somewhere obvious - My flash drives all have "IF YOU FIND THIS.txt" as one of the few files in the root folder, and my phones all have _Me as the very first entry on the contact list.

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    1. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Also, write your phone number on the gadget, not just your name. Names are fine when you lose something at school or a friends house, but they don't allow a helpful stranger to tell you than found your stuff.

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    2. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 2

      And, finally, especially on stuff you *really* don't want to lose, consider offering a reward for their return. That 16GB flash drive was only worth $10 new, a $20 reward offer that catches the eye of a "finders keepers" inclined individual before they reformat it may well get your data back to you safe and sound.

      Don't you hate when you keep thinking of another important point just as you hit the submit button?

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    3. Re:Permnent Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Off-topic, but for your phone, do you have an I.C.E. entry? You know, In Case of Emergency, where if you're in an accident, they can call that number for you if they check your phone. See: http://www.snopes.com/crime/prevent/icephone.asp (Hope that's not a bad example.)

    4. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      No I don't, and it does seem like a good idea if it's something paramedics actually think to look for.

      I think I'll change my first two contacts to _If Found and _In Emergency to make absolutely sure the intent is obvious to any well-intentioned finder.

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    5. Re:Permnent Markers by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      I would never stick a found flash drive into my computer :)
      Ah well, perhaps on a linux box where I was certain it does not accept keyboard input from THAT port.

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    6. Re:Permnent Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or putting: I.C.E. (In Case of Emergency)

      For the lost then found thing, a phone number or e-mail, but never a physical address for obvious reasons.

    7. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      The problem with I.C.E. is it's not immediately obvious what it refers to. Maybe I have a friend with a weird nickname? Or I deal with Immigration and Customs Enforcement? In Case of Emergency doesn't even show up as a possibility on the first page of a Google search. Just because some guy in the UK is advocating the convention doesn't mean someone here in the US has ever heard of it. Meanwhile even if Bob Brotchie himself searched my phone for an ICE contact, he'd hopefully notice the great big "In Emergency" staring at him from the very top of the contact list, and it would be pretty obvious exactly why it was there.

      It's much the same reasoning as discouraging programmers from using abbreviated variable names - you want the meaning to be as absolutely and immediately clear as possible to anyone who encounters it.

      The obvious reasons being... if you lost your phone and house keys together that would be a bad thing, and...? (You did say reasonS.) I suppose if your phone is particularly expensive then a thief would suspect that you have other expensive stuff worth stealing in your house. But your house is probably in a well-to-do neighborhood surrounded by other people with similarly expensive phones, so there's not exactly a whole lot of new information being provided. Any thief worth their salt is going to know where the well-to-do neighborhoods are.

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    8. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      How about into a computer at a library or internet cafe that is presumably already compromised six ways from Sunday? And if you have disabled autorun, what is the risk? Has someone actually managed to create a virus that spreads via reading an infected partition table or file system? That would actually be pretty impressive.

      What does keyboard input have to do with anything though? I haven't heard of that attack vector, and it would seem pretty paranoid to assume an apparent USB drive has a chance worthy of consideration of being a piece of malicious custom hardware. Presuming of course you're not in a position of enough importance or access that you might be personally targeted in an effort to breach some greater security wall.

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    9. Re:Permnent Markers by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      The risk is that there are USB sticks out, that identify themselves as "drive" and as keyboard.

      They type automaticaly windows-R or something to execute a file by mimicing user interaction.

      However, the idea to put it into a PC at a linrary or internet cafe is a good one.

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    10. Re:Permnent Markers by RJFerret · · Score: 1

      Paint marker.

      Lasts much longer than permanent marker, is weather proof too. On my time-lapse camera, I also applied clear tape over it (years ago) and it's as fresh as day one, despite seeing handling rock climbing, rain, UV sun, etc.

      Depending on item size, I put "Reward, phone number" and if room, email.

      It leads to humor on my cellphone, as the background image (flip phone) is typically girlfriend's cleavage or topless shot, with "reward if found" displayed across...

      PS: In many states, if you can't find the proper owner, items shall be turned over to police, who store them for a year if they can't find the proper owner, to ultimately auction off if unclaimed by owner/finder. So for those who want to keep found stuff, there is a legal/ethical procedure for that.

    11. Re:Permnent Markers by jiriw · · Score: 1

      Keyboard hijack should not be a problem. Remote login on the machine you intend to analyse the foreign hardware device on... Do not use a GUI that defaults keyboard input to itself, do not use one of the main TTYs , so a keyboard hack which cycles through the available '[ctrl]F1-7' targeting the default Linux virtual terminals available can't find any one logged on. Use an OS that doesn't auto-mount (which eliminates several Linux distro's, but at least you can make them behave, if you want to) or, even worse auto-executes at mount. Analyse the hardware make-up of the device at leisure before you manually mount the partitions yourself and take a look at the software. Did I miss something? Please tell :) Always happy to learn.

      What's more of a show stopper is the nasty rumour about direct memory access bugs in USB chipsets which might actually give malign devices an attack vector that way. Don't know what's true about that one 'though. The last time I saw it mentioned, was about that security researcher that claimed sensitive information (and even attack code updates) from a trojan spread through his air-gapped machines using modulated data on sound waves emitted from one laptop's speakers to another one's microphone.

    12. Re:Permnent Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's pretty damn obvious. Even non-English speaking countries use ICE contacts and teach their first responders to look for it. For example: http://www.dinsakerhet.se/Vid-olycka/Checklistor-/ICE---Fixa-ICE-i-din-mobil/

    13. Re:Permnent Markers by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      What do you mean with direct memory access?
      That the USB device accesses the memory of the host?
      That is completely impossible. Except the USB hardware part of the host would allow that, by being comrimized due manufactoring.

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    14. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      That... actually sounds like it might be handy for a few legitimate uses. Can you buy the things on the white market?

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    15. Re:Permnent Markers by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      "ICE" can be ambiguous.

      I have my mom and dad listed as "mom" and "dad", both with multiple phone numbers. I figure if anyone needs to call someone in case of an emergency, "mom" and "dad" are good choices. Of course, most phones these days are locked with a PIN or pattern code, so good luck actually getting to the contact list.

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    16. Re:Permnent Markers by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Mot sure, I only know about such devices because they where mentioned in a german computer magazine (www.heise.de magacine is called c't )

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    17. Re:Permnent Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately you can't see markers worth a damn in the dark. Tear down is very frequently in the dark.

    18. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      You've got strange habits. I always found tear down much easier with some kind of light, and thanks to the miracle of batteries light is available everywhere.

      Can't see stickers or engraving in the dark either. And you need a lot of practice and impressive fingertip sensitivity and to read most engraving by touch.

      And of course both stickers and ink are in fact available in glow-in-the-dark varieties.

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    19. Re:Permnent Markers by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

      Also don't forget to put your contact info on there. I have one of these brother printers and I put my name and phone number on everything. Big things also get my address as well.

      http://www.brother-usa.com/Pto...

      Everything also has a piece of blue electrical tape on it for the most part. Makes it easy to pick out your gear from a distance.

    20. Re:Permnent Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have had phones that had an explicit "ICE" setting, although those were dumbphones and I don't believe my current phone has it (or any way to do anything but make an emergency call without unlocking it).

    21. Re:Permnent Markers by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      " Has someone actually managed to create a virus that spreads via reading an infected partition table or file system? That would actually be pretty impressive."

      It was a long time ago, but I do recall reading vaguely about a virus that did exactly that. It's long-obsolete now - it was spread by floppies, exploiting a vulnerability in certain versions of MS-DOS. Not just a boot sector virus, but something that worked through abuse of FAT so even if the disk was just inserted as soon as the OS tried to read the root directory it'd execute the payload - which then went memory resident, and wrote the virus back to any subsequent disks inserted.

    22. Re:Permnent Markers by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      USB doesn't allow it, baring exploitable flaws in design. Firewire and thunderbolt do. It's one reason firewire has much lower CPU overhead.

    23. Re:Permnent Markers by Skylinux · · Score: 1

      "What are backups?!" and "What is encryption!?"

      Why would you keep important things on a USB Drive in unencrypted form and without backups?

      Use both and the drive becomes expandable. Lose it, buy a new one and restore data from backups/git repo.

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    24. Re:Permnent Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most "permanent" markers' ink can be removed using some 50% ethanol and a bit of rubbing. 30% takes some more rubbing. 70%+ and it wipes right off. The other advantage is that ethanol also cleans the surface (including any alcohol-based paint).

    25. Re:Permnent Markers by oodaloop · · Score: 1

      and my phones all have _Me as the very first entry on the contact list

      My phone has full disk encryption and a real PIN. If someone finds your phone and can flip through the contact list, something has gone terribly wrong.

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    26. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      There is quite often a fair amount of lag in creating backups. If I've been using the portable apps on my USB drive to work on some project or other I probably won't have a backup until at least the next time I sit down at my own machine, especially if I haven't been on a machine that I would trust with access to my dropbox account. How many hours of work are wasted if the drive gets lost before then? How much is it worth to me to avoid losing that time and facing the tedium of repeating the same work?

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    27. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      >That is completely impossible. Except the USB hardware part of the host would allow that, by being comrimized due manufactoring.

      >> nasty rumour about direct memory access bugs in USB chipsets

      And it sounds like jiriw was addressing *exactly* such a manufacturing flaw

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    28. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Or, and this is just ridiculously wild speculation here, I don't store nuclear launch codes on my phone, don't think it's worth entering a 20-character unlock code every time I use my phone (so that the full-disk encryption actually accomplishes something) just to keep some random person from possibly reading my email, and assume anyone who finds my phone will want to either return it or reformat it rather than making pointless calls to my friends.

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    29. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, the golden age of viruses. Back when getting a virus meant having your computer F'ed with in amusing ways, rather than letting creeps spy on your every move and sell you CPU cycles to the highest bidder.

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    30. Re:Permnent Markers by oodaloop · · Score: 1

      It's a 6-digit number for Android phones, so not that big a deal to protect your privacy. Plus, you can put your name and contact info on the lock screen if they want to return it.

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    31. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Yes you can, and it's probably a good idea to do so if you want to give an honest person a chance to return your locked down phone.

      For security though, six digits is only a million possible combinations, considerably less than a 4-character password - it's going to take what, maybe five minutes to brute-force it? After all if you're using full disk encryption you're pretty much assuming someone may yank the disk to bypass OS-level security.

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    32. Re:Permnent Markers by oodaloop · · Score: 1

      Perhaps I'm just exposing my ignorance, but the phone locks me out after I believe 3 tries, so how would you brute force it? It's also 6-20 alphanumeric digits, so any combination of letters or numbers, case-sensitive. I happen to have mine set to the minimum of 6, which I calculate to almost 57 billion possibilities. But brute forcing a 20 digit alphanumeric PIN shouldn't be trivially easy. I would probably give up the PIN in less time being beaten with a $5 wrench. I just don't to make it too easy for someone to get my stuff.

      BTW, I recommend soylentnews.org if you're unhappy with slashdot's potential future. I'm the same name over there in case you want to stalk me.

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    33. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Ask yourself this - why do you use full disk encryption? So long as the login screen can't be bypassed it adds no extra security. Full disk encryption protects against the case where the OS itself is bypassed - say somebody boots to their own OS or extracts the disk and inserts it in another machine.

      If it's an alphanumeric password then yes, it would be considerably more secure, at 57 billion possibilities I assume it's case-sensitive as well. You said digits, so I assumed numeric-only. However, IIRC it's generally considered that even an 8 character password makes makes for pretty weak security, and that's pushing 2 quadrillion. Presumably you need to get a bit more clever than straight brute-forcing for that, but I've never paid much attention to the details of password hacking.

      But, but, soylentnews is *red*, and... and... GLOSSY *sob*. And the name rankles. And most importantly the "load a new page" comment folding is very annoying. But yeah, kinda keeping an eye on it, I may make the jump if Slashdot guts itself, but I really don't need *two* giant gaping timesucks in my life. I assume they offer the convenient one-stop list of replies to our comments that we all know and love?

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    34. Re:Permnent Markers by oodaloop · · Score: 1

      I get you. At the login screen, they get a handful of attempts, perhaps 3 or 5. They would have to rip out the hard drive or perform some other similarly complex feat to bypass it, and discover it is encrypted. With sufficient processing power, someone could brute force it, or find another way in. I assume the NSA, FBI, or other over-funded govt agency will be able to eventually get in, hopefully with at least a little effort. For all the other people who will come into contact with it (kids, wife, gf, etc), I hope to keep them out.

      Soylent's layout leaves a little to be desired, but they're working on it and open to feedback from the community, unlike *ahem* certain other websites. And it could have a better name, no doubt. Your inbox will shows acheivements (whatevs), moderations (again, whatevs), and replies. It's not bad. And the excitement of being part of something new and wonderful makes up for the layout and color scheme.

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    35. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      After giving it a bit more of a run and posting a couple AC comments I've gotta say it leaves more than a "little" to be desired. The red I could tolerate if I had to, though I suspect it will contribute to a more aggressive atmosphere (go ahead and look into the research on the effects of color on emotional state). The complete breakage of the seamless ability to refer back to the summary and non-parent posts while writing a comment though? That hurts.

      Maybe I'm just getting too old for this shit, but there's only so many annoying headaches I'm willing to put up with in an average day, and I've got better things to spend them on than dealing with yet another "new" and "exciting" young forum slowly filling with people I'll never meet. I'll leave that to people who actually enjoy it, and just stop by once in a while to see if you've got it to a usable state yet. Good luck though.

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    36. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      As TFA pointed out, "mom" and "dad" aren't necessarily the best options. The medics will likely contact one or both anyway if there's no better option, but some people have really f'ed up relationships with their parents, wouldn't want to worry them if they live abroad and can't do much anyway, or just don't want to explain to mom how they came to be found bloodied and broken along with a car full of midget hookers.

      If nothing else some sort of explicit emergency contact info saves the medics the discomfort of making that judgment call - you've explicitly told them who you want informed.

      Also, I like your hybrid, it's amazing just how popular they are, no?

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    37. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Oh, and less off-topic:

      As for keeping out nosy passerby's out (and yeah, probably best for you if the wife doesn't find out too much about the gf), full disk encryption is unlikely to add any appreciable security over just the login screen unless they've got some serious technical chops and a soldering iron (or your phone uses a removable flash card for storage)

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    38. Re:Permnent Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      And a good paint thinner,etc. has a fair chance at removing the outer layers of the device itself, making ink adherence irrelevant. As does fine-grit sandpaper, even on metal and glass.

      At some point you have to accept that labeling is there primarily for the benefit of altruists or, like locks, to keep an honest person honest. They really pose minimal difficulties for the dishonest unless they're non-obvious - as a child there were a few times I managed to conclusively prove that stolen property was in fact mine because of labels that required dismantling to find.

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  7. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If I found something, even with a name on it, I'd keep it. Finders keepers and all that.

    That's unethical and you contribute to making the world a worse place by doing that.

  8. Lab Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sharpies are disallowed at my lab because the writing is so easily removed. They're expensive, but writing with a VWR lab marker doesn't come off even when treated with most solvents.

    1. Re:Lab Markers by Immerman · · Score: 1

      That seems rather excessive unless you have a chronic problem. The primary purpose of a label in most situations is to give a helpful person the ability to return your stuff, a thief just won't show anyone the label (What, you don't make decorative drawings on your stuff?). Unless the thing in question has little use outside your lab that's pretty easy to do.

      Thanks for the link though, how does the ink compare to Sharpies when it comes to normal wear and fading?

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    2. Re:Lab Markers by spasm · · Score: 1

      Good idea, but the product page you link to says "Note: Markers are not for use on smooth surfaces" which would limit usefulness for labeling a lot of electronics. Although since you actually use them, what's your real-life experience been?

    3. Re:Lab Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Writing on labels, tape, plastic, or rubberized surfaces it doesn't come off.

    4. Re:Lab Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The lab markers don't fade nearly as fast as a sharpie.

    5. Re:Lab Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of cheaper solutions work on labels and tape without coming off without destroying the tape. I can easily get a sharpie off of most plastics and metals, but any sort of slightly porous tape is not going to just wipe off.

    6. Re:Lab Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also these seem to be a restricted item for some reason or another on that site but they are available on amazon and cheaper too, although i would not call these markers cheap

    7. Re:Lab Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also you gave the wrong link the right on is https://us.vwr.com/store/catalog/product.jsp?catalog_number=52877-398 (and these are not restricted) which is also available on amazon cheaper

    8. Re:Lab Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sharpies are disallowed at my lab because the writing is so easily removed. They're expensive, but writing with a VWR lab marker doesn't come off even when treated with most solvents.

      Do they have a white version? Because, you know, so many cables come in black.

  9. WARNING Sticker: by microcars · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Contains Contaminated Body Fluids" usually keeps people from touching my stuff.

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    1. Re:WARNING Sticker: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, there's a whole spectrum of people who might take it, just because of that label.

    2. Re:WARNING Sticker: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Contains Contaminated Body Fluids" usually keeps people from touching my stuff.

      Sort of like setting down a tray of food in the highschool caf with a note stating that "I spit on this" (Only to return to find a 2nd note "I did too!")

      LOL

    3. Re:WARNING Sticker: by laejoh · · Score: 2

      Mine are labelled as "Contains Precious Bodily Fluids (and there's nothing wrong with them)".

    4. Re:WARNING Sticker: by stjobe · · Score: 2

      Yep, just a plain old orange BIOHAZARD sticker works wonders.

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    5. Re:WARNING Sticker: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You say that, but I arrived at the office to find a contractor using this mug of mine

    6. Re:WARNING Sticker: by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      My electronics are covered in DNA, so a simple UV flashlight is claim of ownership. Especially when they are touching it.

      I also changed the logon screen, or equivalent, to use a photo of the device under a UV flashlight. Remarkably effective, and I didn't have to change my behavior at all. And, CSI could solve the case in about 7 minutes if it ever got that far.

  10. Reward if Found by Mister+Transistor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Engraving is the only (mostly) unremovable way to mark things, and I have found in the past that the simple phrase "Reward If Found" and a phone number have gotten me and several friends some of their items back. Either that, or "Stolen From (insert Name)". That way, even if the thief doesn't think better of his acquisition, he'll at least be reminded he's a morally corrupt shitbag every time he picks it up.

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    1. Re:Reward if Found by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where I live, you are required by law to declare any finding with the police (or city officials, or return it directly). If you lost something, you are also required to pay a reasonable fee to the finder, on top of any expenses incurred.

      http://www.wetboek-online.nl/wet/Burgerlijk%20Wetboek%20Boek%205/5.html
      http://www.wetboek-online.nl/wet/Burgerlijk%20Wetboek%20Boek%205/10.html

    2. Re:Reward if Found by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If someone lost something, you should return it. POTUS Obama said, If you like your "stuff", you can keep your "stuff".
      To sell yourself for "stuff"--owned, lost or found--is just a stupid transaction. What you lose is much greater than what you stole.

    3. Re:Reward if Found by Cutterman · · Score: 1

      Not trying to return it was wrong. Scribbling over the name with your engraver means you KNEW it was wrong.

      I reckon you're morally bankrupt.

    4. Re:Reward if Found by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So does the US, Canada, England, and Australia. They all have laws describing what situations and time periods are needed for items to be considered abandoned, and in the meantime it would be theft to keep the item for yourself and not turn it in. In fact, if you wanted to go some place that doesn't have such laws, you would be better of going to Eastern Europe and other places that have or are dealing with actual communism.

      But judging by half the AC posts here being by some one who is a child, in mind at least, who thinks they can dig themselves out of a hole by acting more childish, there are bigger issues to consider before thinking of moving to a finders-keepers paradise.

    5. Re:Reward if Found by frisket · · Score: 1

      On a visit to CERN many years ago I noticed all their keyboards, monitors, etc (stuff in plastic boxes, basically) was not engraved but branded with a heated device that melted their name deep into it. Virtually impossible to remove or obliterate.

      Expensive stuff I label with "There is a reward for returning this device to XYZ Corp" followed by a contact number. The only time I lost such an item it was returned anonymously in the mail, so thank you to whoever that was.

      Cheaper stuff just gets a label with my company name and contact number.

  11. Not quite what you want but near by SilverNerfer · · Score: 2

    How about these they have drawbacks but would have alerted you more quickly http://www.thetileapp.com/

  12. lacking answers here, ask roadie on a band forum by raymorris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The first several replies here aren't too useful. If that continues, ask band roadies on an appropriate forum. The band I used to do lights for did up to three shows per weekend, so there was plenty of opportunity for an expensive cable to end up in the wrong person's case and that sort of thing.

    Something as simple as a stripe of blue paint on ALL of your gear will really help avoid accidents. For intentional theft, if you want the pawn shop to _maybe_ notice it, engraving is probably the only way to go.

  13. Spray paint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Splotches of unusual colors are easily identified. Amongst piles of gear.

  14. Labelling won't change others' morals, but... by acidradio · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can't change others' morals and not make them thieves. But I do label stuff simply so it doesn't get confused. We all have so many big power transformers to power every device and, well, I end up moving every 2-3 yrs. How will I know what all they go to? Some look identical and even have the same plugs! But not the same wattage or amperage, which makes equipment go bananas. So... for at least THAT reason it's wise to label stuff.

    1. Re:Labelling won't change others' morals, but... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      But not the same wattage or amperage

      As long as they're sufficient it's not an issue; those are maximums that the PSU can supply.

      Applying an excessive voltage, however, is an entirely different thing.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    2. Re:Labelling won't change others' morals, but... by acidradio · · Score: 1

      I have a broadband router and a VoIP ATA both made by Linksys, both of which look identical and have "identical looking" AC adapters. I moved to a new apartment. All of a sudden my VoIP calls had a horrific buzz and would randomly drop. Upon further investigation the VoIP ATA needed the adapter that kicked out about 1000mA and the broadband router only needed about half that. Swapped. Problem solved. Now both adapters are labeled as to avoid future mishaps like this. That's the reason I mention this.

  15. Coat everything in your own shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is good general advice for life, too.

  16. Marking Electronics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bic Mark It Marker or White Out

    Let Dry 3 or more days

    Apply one or more coats of clear nail polish, increasing the circumference with each successive coat. Expect longer drying times on surfaces which are not fingernails.

  17. Piles and piles by m.dillon · · Score: 1

    About all I do is mark my dead hard drives with a big D-E-A-D and an 'X' with a ballpoint pen before throwing them into my dead-hard-drive pile (I use them to test disk driver error handling code paths so they don't get thrown away). Actual hardware... no point labeling it, really, it's just a waste of time.

    Oh wait, I do use those cool Intel and AMD cpu stickers on the cases, helps me keep track of which cpu is in which computer :-)

    What I do find useful is collecting together all the extra tidbits that come with a product (motherboards in particular) and throwing them into a small labeled box. Ultimately when it comes time to recycle the HW after it has gotten too old, I throw the box away at the same time or, if a friend can use the old HW, I dig into it to refurbish as much as possible and then hand it and the box over.

    -Matt

  18. Use a dremel tool ... by golodh · · Score: 1
    The one or two things I really want labelled in a way that won't come off, I engraved my name on using a Dremel tool.

    There's an added benefit of making the thing you label less attractive to others (depending on where you put the engraving).

    1. Re:Use a dremel tool ... by Immerman · · Score: 1

      That would be a lot more visible than normal engraving, especially if you also traced the grooves with contrasting permanent ink - which could also make the grooves more attractive while simultaneously protecting the ink from wear.

      -- This idea has been approved by the Department of Redundancy Department.

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    2. Re:Use a dremel tool ... by drkim · · Score: 1

      Great idea, if you trace over with a rubberized paint marker, it won't wash/sweat/rub away.

      I do the same thing, but for equipment that will be exposed to contact and/or moisture I stick a piece of clear packing tape over it as well.

    3. Re:Use a dremel tool ... by jiriw · · Score: 1

      Actually... if the object was made by metal, that would be the 'only' way. The only objects I bothered to physically label are my laptops and they aren't of the 'ultra expensive' kind... so I use a soldering iron for that.

      For hand-held digital devices (a PDA in the not too distant past, now a smartphone), I've only put a message of ownership on the lock screen.

    4. Re:Use a dremel tool ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These are some absolutely idiotic suggestions. Gee I broke my sensitive electronics by trying to dremel it. Oops?

    5. Re:Use a dremel tool ... by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Sounds like somebody has never heard of diamond-tipped engraving pens.

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    6. Re:Use a dremel tool ... by Immerman · · Score: 1

      If your skill with a dremel isn't good enough to avoid risking damage to your electronics, then yes, it would be kind of stupid to do your engraving that way. By the same token if your skill driving a car isn't good enough to avoid running into things you should probably avoid driving as well.

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  19. Boomerangit? by colfer · · Score: 1

    Product page says "BoomerangIt Packs and Subscriptions are no longer available for purchase." I can't find anything written about it in the last seven years, except this: http://boomerangit.wordpress.c...

    Even its offshoot the National Bike Registry seems a it moribund.

  20. Label printer by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I use a dedicated label printer to print small tags that I attach to cables - it wraps around and sticks to itself. Most of the label printer labels are plastic and very hardy. The adhesive will stick to lots of other things really well.

    For larger items (like a monitor) I'll tape a business card to it.

    Labeling cables is a good idea anyway, especially for saying what device a power cord from a wall-wart goes to.

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  21. Simple easily removable labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use simple labels from a PTouch labeler with my name and phone number, to make it easy for honest people to find me. For the dishonest, they can peel off the label.

  22. Using as an ad space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I do put sticker right on the apple logo side of my macbook air, but not for the sake of the security. I use it as simple ad. I dine and meet to huge number of people in caffees and places like that so why missing a chance to advertise to a passing crowd?

  23. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's unethical

    Thanks for your personal opinion.

    You lose your shit and I find it, it becomes my shit.

  24. BoomerangIt doesn't offer anything anymore? by Omega+Hacker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was actually intrigued by BoomerangIt, until I noticed that a) "BoomerangIt Packs and Subscriptions are no longer available for purchase." and b) the cart indeed does not exist.

    I'm a little fuzzy on how you a) start a business selling labels that promise long-term lookup&return, then b) stop selling new labels and thus getting new income, while c) still being required ("nominally") to provide the lookup&return service, without d) running out of money and imploding.

    Am I missing something with either their site or their apparent lack of business model???

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    1. Re:BoomerangIt doesn't offer anything anymore? by stoploss · · Score: 1

      I perceive two potential business models:

      1. The US Cemetery business model:
      "So, you're telling me I pay once and then you will tend my grave forever?"
      "Yes! Once we are full and are getting no further sales, we will pay for the upkeep through other people's donations (we're a church), or we have set up a trust fund that is absolutely secure (*cough*), or we're planning to pawn this off to the local taxpayers for maintenance once we go out of business (most likely)."

      Hm, well I don't think they are a church, and I doubt the government will bail them out. So, what's the other model?

      2. The DRM server model:
      "People paid us and trusted us to keep running our service, but we aren't making money anymore? Well, fuck it then... *yanks plug*"

  25. Re:lacking answers here, ask roadie on a band foru by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My eyes are bad.. I use paratrooper cord in dayglo colors. Mch better than blacl bag on black carpet. And you can organize your cables.

  26. Re: Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thieving twat

  27. label maker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have labels on some of my more expensive They are very durable as well, the labels on my laptop have been on there for three years.

  28. Don't lose stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My solution is to just not lose stuff.
    I always pack my things the same way, I put things down in the same place.
    That way I don't forget things usually.
    It's been working so far.
    Generally the only time I can't find something is if someone else takes something, and that really isn't going to be solved by having my name on it.

  29. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Careful, some of us nerds can deadlift three times your weight. Bring it on asshole. You are a thief, period, and should be treated as such.

  30. Re: Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're either very young, in which case hopefully you'll grow out of this selfish attitude and develop respect for other people, or you're an adult, in which case you're probably going to have a lonely dissatisfied life. Peace out, motherfucker.

  31. I label power supplies by wiredlogic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If I get a device that uses a generic unlabeled power supply I'll mark it with a silver Sharpie to remind me what it goes to.

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    1. Re:I label power supplies by bussdriver · · Score: 1

      Me too!

    2. Re:I label power supplies by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I mark ethernet & USB with bands of colour. On white/light grey I just draw them on with a permanent marker. For darker cables I put primer on (the sort Games Workshop used to sell is good) first.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    3. Re:I label power supplies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Every transformer has its output voltage and amperage clearly stated on it and every device that uses a transformer has its input voltage and amperage labeled on it somewhere. All you have to do is match up a transformer with the same output values as the input values on the device you're using. It doesn't even have to be the original transformer as long as the values match.

      Another pro tip: always save transformers. You can cut the ends off of them and use them in place of batteries if you get the voltage and amperage matched up. I do this with some toys the kids use like slot cars and computer-like devices. Instead of buying new batteries every week I just plug in the transformer and they have unlimited play time.

    4. Re:I label power supplies by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      Once you accumulate enough adapters there is a real risk of connecting a supply with too high a voltage or too low a current rating into a device. While the supplies are all labeled with voltage, current, tip polarity, and DC/AC output type, many electronic devices that use them don't have the matching specs on their enclosure. With the generic Chinese made supplies there is often no label connecting that supply to the OEM of the device it powers.

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    5. Re:I label power supplies by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      That's why I use masking tape and a Sharpie to make a label for the transformer itself (easier to identify when under a desk or behind a cabinet trying to unplug something) and a second tag that goes at the device plug end so if I unplug two or more things I'll make sure not to get them mixed up.

    6. Re:I label power supplies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have yet to see any device that accepts DC input from a transformer not have the requisite specs listed. Some of them have the specs listed on labels or stickers that can maybe peel off or be destroyed, but that's a different issue. Due to potential fire hazard of mismatching the input I would suspect that having the specs listed would be a requirement for UL acceptance.

    7. Re:I label power supplies by oobayly · · Score: 1

      I have several pieces of Linksys kit that doesn't tell you what voltage it would like, and no, they don't all take the require the same voltage.

    8. Re:I label power supplies by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      It's not just Linksys. As an avid yard sailer I run into this very often. Probably something like 10-15% of the stuff out there doesn't have its specs listed, and even if it does it won't necessarily tell you about the tip polarity which manufacturers love to change just to screw with you

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  32. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I find your car, even though it has a license plate on it, can I keep it?

  33. Re: Easy by Holi · · Score: 1

    Actually it is. According to the law you have a responsibility to attempt to return found items and money to the original owner and failing that to turn it in to the authorities.

    But obviously you don't care because your an AC troll just trying to swear a lot because you think it makes you sound more like an adult (hint: it doesn't).

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  34. Re: Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shut the fuck up and go back to bed, junior.

  35. Photo-label by Immerman · · Score: 1

    And of course one more springs to mind. A self-portrait displayed prominently when someone first opens your gadget - be that as your account image on your laptop or the lock-screen background on your smartphone. Give a stranger in the crowd a chance to spot the person they should hand it back to.

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  36. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then you're a thief, and a twat.

  37. Re: Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hint: Grown ups don't write like that. Stay in school, kid.

  38. Re: lacking answers here, ask roadie on a band for by ktakki · · Score: 4, Funny

    Seconded. We had spray painted stencils on anything larger than 12". For mics and cables we used colored duct tape and wrote on that with a Sharpie. Every gig ended with a "dummy check" at the end of the night: even if you think everything is in the truck, it never hurts to make one last check (onstage, backstage, etc.). You'd be surprised how many times something turned up in a dummy check.

    Designate one person as the gear wrangler. Teach him the Roadie's Creed:

    If it's wet, drink it.
    If it's dry, smoke it.
    If it moves, fuck it.
    If it doesn't move, PUT IT IN THE TRUCK.

    -k.

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    "In spite of everything, I still believe that people are really good at heart." - Anne Frank
  39. Superficial Damage by Demonantis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Depends on the item, but stuff that looks like junk doesn't walk away. Don't break it just add a ding or two, use sand paper, or add duct tape make people less interested in grabbing stuff for some reason.

    1. Re:Superficial Damage by drkim · · Score: 1

      Depends on the item, but stuff that looks like junk doesn't walk away. Don't break it just add a ding or two, use sand paper, or add duct tape make people less interested in grabbing stuff for some reason.

      Great technique..!

      Another trick is: instead of using expensive looking cases for gear, buy crappy looking but tough suitcases at Goodwill. (Make sure they have working locks and keys).

      Line them with finger-foam (or cut your own foam) for the gear. Also much cheaper than high tech equipment cases.

      Nothing screams "steal me!" like a shiny new brushed-aluminum gear case, or camera case.

    2. Re: Superficial Damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, thinkpad x2.. series has an attractive magnesium alloy under the rubberized finish - scuff through with rough grit sandpaper, polish with ultra high grit, then apply a clear coat (I used thinned clear ge silicone ii which is alkaline and won't tarnish the magnesium) to protect the metal. I don't know if it's a complement but I've had people tell me my computer looks like a beast :-)

      Never seen another like it and it would stick out like a sore thumb, at least to me.

  40. Depends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Paintpens and label makers, depending on what the unit is. Also always labeled with my FCC call sign.

  41. Two colours of electrical tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm a musician as well as a hacker. I adopted the rock climber's trick of two bands of coloured electrical tape wrapped beside each other on the cable like a little flag, done at both ends of the cable. Works like a charm for speedy tear downs without losing gear.

    - you can tell your cable at either end, greatly speeding up tear down
    - unlikely anyone else has your flag because you are say "yellow red yellow"
    - hard to peel off in a hurry (for theives)
    - easy to see in the dark if you use bright colours

    HTH

    1. Re:Two colours of electrical tape by germansausage · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that. First useful post on this thread.

    2. Re:Two colours of electrical tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're welcome. Of course the only person actually answering has a score of 1 (me!). Oh slashdot, so full of hackers who know all the answers for problems they have never actually had to solve in real life.

      Also, head lamps. Head lamps make finding your flag of coloured tape in the chaos and mess of a nightclub tear down way the hell faster. =)

  42. label it as best you can by confused+one · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Laptop(s), tablets and phone I travel with have Lojack (or equivalent) service installed. Best case scenario is I can find it, worst case is I can reach out and turn it into a brick. I put laminated business cards in packages. Zip tie laminated business cards to some items and my bags. There's also a laminated business card or two tucked into my laptop behind covers so I can prove ownership, down the road, even if it gets wiped. Cables, etc. of any value get labels. Tools and small items get run through my employer's laser engraver. Still, small items occasionally go missing, either misplaced or stolen. Had a beard trimmer disappear out of my bag once, who'd want a used beard trimmer? It's not a perfect world, just do the best you can.

    1. Re:label it as best you can by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Do you really need to travel with all that stuff? I'd suggest the OP ask themselves the same question.

      I suffer from... well, a variety of things, but long story short I used to cart loads of crap to the other side of the world with me but now I have come to realize that most of it was not needed and I can actually get away with a lot less. One laptop, one phone, one set of very small/light headphones that block out aircraft/train noise well. One USB charger if I think I'll need to charge away from the laptop.

      In the OP's case it might be worth getting a recording device with a good built in microphone. I paid more for an ultra-portable laptop with reasonable storage space but it was worth it, because now I don't need to carry around a USB HDD or memory sticks. I used to carry noise cancelling headphones but switched to in-ear monitors and disposable earplugs. Less valuable stuff to carry means less to lose or get stolen.

      It is tempting to take a tablet to watch movies on the plane or whatever. Don't bother, they have movies on their entertainment system or just try to rest/sleep. Load your phone up with audio books instead of videos. Maybe even get a really cheap ebook reader (I paid £25 for a Kobo) that you won't be too upset over if you lose it.

      I suppose a beard trimmer is useful if you go away for long periods of time. If you don't take such trips often a cheap one you don't care about might be a solution, or just man up and take a razor to your face :-) Seriously though, I used to take stuff like toiletries but now I just grab some basic stuff from the local one-price shop for the duration and chuck it before I go home.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    2. Re:label it as best you can by confused+one · · Score: 1

      Yes, when I travel on occasion I carry all of the above. Some trips it's just a laptop, cell phone and a change of clothes. However, on some trips I'm going to another site for a week to troubleshoot and solve one or more problems. I've learned, through experience, not to assume the site I'm going to will have everything; so, I bring any tools I think I'll need.

  43. Sharpie Industrial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Did you know there are two kinds of Sharpie markers? Did you ever get the impression that Sharpie markers don't work as well as they used to?

    The real ones are now called Sharpie Industrial and they still work.

  44. Re: Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're so fucking wrong. Possession is 9/10ths of the law, stupid faggot. I find it, I keep it because the loser gave it to me tacitly. Don't want that to happen? Then don't be a careless moron, losing your shit and then whining and crying like a little bitch because the world isn't fair and you're an entitled little shit.

    Now get the fuck out, n00b.

  45. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm glad you have such a simple outlook. Then you'll understand when I say, if I find you with my shit, and you don't hand it back over, you're going to wake up, broken, in a hospital.

  46. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, if I were so stupid to lose my car then that would be fair game. Too bad for you, I'm not a fucking idiot and I don't lose stuff.

    Fuck, what are you Slashdot losers? A bunch of fucking retards perpetually losing your shit?

  47. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Massive douchebag. I often wonder to myself how people like you actually exist in life. Where do people like you come from? How were you formed into the piece of shit that you've become in life?

  48. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shut the fuck up, little dweeb. People like you live because people like me ALLOW you to live.

  49. Obligatory: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tenacious D - Roadie : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3BamIKUnZ0

  50. High quality labels by Nebulo · · Score: 1

    These are great, and I use them on all my gear. The kit includes a variety of sizes and shapes. The adhesive is very strong and will stick to virtually any surface, and the label is protected by a transparent plastic coating that makes it very resistant to scratches. The printing is rated for fade resistance after several years in the outdoors, and the price is just right.

    http://www.mavericklabel.com/p...

    Disclaimer: I used to work at this company. They're good people.

  51. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HAHAHAHAHA! That's some hilarious shit right there.

    Yeah, come waste me little dork. I could end your life with a single punch.

  52. Like my cat... by Chelloveck · · Score: 5, Funny

    Like my cat, I just pee on everything that's mine. Or that I want to be mine. Works like a charm.

    --
    Chelloveck
    I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
    1. Re:Like my cat... by egcagrac0 · · Score: 2

      Like my cat, I just pee on everything that's mine. Or that I want to be mine. Works like a charm.

      I imagine this makes dating and courtship more interesting.

    2. Re:Like my cat... by tlambert · · Score: 1

      Like my cat, I just pee on everything that's mine. Or that I want to be mine. Works like a charm.

      I imagine this makes dating and courtship more interesting.

      Like most tom cats, Chelloveck has a harem.

  53. Re: Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clearly a child there. Doesn't realize assault caries a prison term. Adults with that attitude end up spending quality time in our penal system.

  54. What difference would a label do? by carlhaagen · · Score: 1

    Someone obviously picked it up and decided NOT to bring it to the reception or Lost And Found. How would a label on the item matter? How were you thinking when you wrote this up, Tim?

    1. Re:What difference would a label do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you label/engrave it, they might notice the label when they get home? And then they'll have to remove the label / scratch out the engraving, or just use it at home so their friends won't notice the engraving and call them out as a thief.

      If you're serious about deterring theft, I suggest bolting a locator beacon to every object you purchase. This will let you find the culprit, or at least find the trash bin they tossed it in after they noticed that there was a 50g transmitter attached to a 1g microphone. (_8(|) oO ( doh! )

  55. Engraving by no means permanent by JacobLeclerc · · Score: 0

    Had an iPod stolen with my name and phone number engraved. One of the first thing they did was scratch that off.

  56. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you're funny. and sad. and clearly barely into your teens.

  57. Invisible ink by cormandy · · Score: 1

    I mark all of my IT and electronics kit with permanent ink that is only visible with a black light. Pens were given to me by the local police.

  58. Re: Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Actually all of the above posts were all by me (AC) I was just having an internal debate about what to do with this crappy microphone I found and didn't realize I was typing out loud.

  59. Re: lacking answers here, ask roadie on a band for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I work for a small touring company, mainly ballet's and some Choirs we use a Hi- tech solution, RFID tags and a scanner on everything, when it goes into the truck or a bag gets loaded its scanned (only takes a second and you can scan packed bags and it pick up everything) end of the night/gig the generated list is checked for missing items. WE haven't lost a thing in 3 years (broke a few but thats to be expected)

  60. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is some fine comedy right here. I wish you the best of luck in your future career as a bouncer or a prisoner. Do try to finish junior high school first.

  61. Yes I do. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use labels.

  62. Hair Ties by umask077 · · Score: 1

    I mark my cables with colored hair ties just like one would use to tie a pony tail in their hair. The are cheap, Easy to find in many colors, and are easy to put on. Sadly they are easy to remove too but I haven't encountered that problem yes. Also good for marking long cables in the house. I know the blue tie on the ethernet cable goes to the master bedroom and the green tie to my daughter's room. Simple markings.

    --
    --- Always remember. 99.36% of all statistics are inaccurate.
  63. Re:Dear Timothy by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Since someone actually did pick the mic up and chose not to bring it to the lost & found, do you really think special labeling of the item would've made any difference?

    It might have, because it's a more personal kind of "stealing" than from some unknown person.

    Though some would in either case and some would in neither. No prizes for guessing which group you fall into though.

    --
    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  64. Re:Easy by drkim · · Score: 1

    If I found something, even with a name on it, I'd keep it. Finders keepers and all that.

    That's unethical and you contribute to making the world a worse place by doing that.

    Not to mention that whole 'legal' thing. All states have "receiving stolen goods" laws on the books... which usually includes possession.

    There is even a federal receipt of stolen goods law (18 U.S. Code 2315) that applies to anyone who "receives, possesses, conceals, stores, barters, sells, or disposes of" anything worth $5000 or more.

    But, it is more likely you would be charged at the State level.

  65. $10/month = 70,000 returns per day by raymorris · · Score: 1

    A $10 / month Amerinoc hosting account for their web site will include MySQL. If that MySql allows finders to query just one item per second, that's tens of thousands of queries per day. Their PHP script then emails the registered owner. I don't see anything here that requires more than a few dollars per month, so leaving the service up until subscriptions run out shouldn't be a problem.

    I'm assuming they don't get a large volume of phone calls every day for some reason.

  66. Double Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Engraving with a highlighting color written into the engraving. It shows well and rubs off/out more slowly. Renew as needed. With a little work anything can be removed. You can hide it inside but then people can't see it, you can only use it as proof later if you find it. So the question becomes how much work do you want to do or how much do you want to spend?

  67. P-Touch by bytethese · · Score: 1

    I worked in a computer forensics lab and we had several road kits. I labeled all the power supplies, devices, etc with a P-Touch so they didn't get mixed up on someone else's kit. It at least cleared up confusion as to what belongs to who when we went on big collections. :)

    1. Re:P-Touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what we used when I worked in a tech shop, I think Brother makes it. On occasion it was referred to as the "yellow retard label" because we found ourselves having to label things that really didn't need to be labeled. But it was great - we could put clear PC names on everything, and IP addresses on network printers, and sort the cables by what data port they ended up at on the big racks, and everything. My personal favorite was the long label on the speaker system inside the shop: "Quit putting ****ing hard drives on the ****ing speakers! Speakers are MAGNETS!"

  68. I don't label by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

    At last month's CES, I mislaid a microphone that I'd just bought: too many items in little black pouches, and that one disappeared on a patch of dark carpet when I got something else out of my bag.

    As a photographer I routinely walk around with a couple of grands worth of camera gear.
     
    I don't label.
     
    Many years in the submarine service taught me to be organized and to pay the hell attention to what I was doing. Labels are like locks, while they're somewhat better than nothing, all they really do is keep honest people honest. They make you feel better because you're Doing Something, but really they're only a small part of the solution.

    1. Re:I don't label by mjwx · · Score: 1

      At last month's CES, I mislaid a microphone that I'd just bought: too many items in little black pouches, and that one disappeared on a patch of dark carpet when I got something else out of my bag.

      As a photographer I routinely walk around with a couple of grands worth of camera gear.

      I don't label.

      For stuff like camera gear, no-one willing to steal it gives a crap if it's labelled. I've got the S/N of most electronics on the receipt (which if I haven't received via email I'll scan and email it to myself). The S/N is enough to ID the equipment if hell freezes over and the cops manage to recover it.

      But I agree with you, prevention is better than cure because label or no once you lose (to theft or carelessness) something you've got buckley's chance of getting it back.

      --
      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
  69. Stay sober by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was always sober at CES and kept my wallet in a tight pocket and my stuff is a large briefcase. Never put anything down where 100,000 people are roaming around.

    1. Re:Stay sober by plover · · Score: 1

      I was always sober at CES

      Good advice, but totally impractical. :-)

      --
      John
  70. color it pink by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    A friend of mine who is a mechanic got tired of his tools being stolen around the garage. Even ones that were engraved. He found a company that made tools that were fluorescent pink. He hasn't had a single tool stolen since.

  71. Too many controllers! by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

    Panasonic with Viera, Samsung with Anynet+ (monitor) -HDTV's, Denon Home Theater, and a PS3 that I watch NetFlix on. Four controllers I use all the time, and none of them talk to each other; the monitor mentions it's going to power down if there's no controller activity in 15 seconds; I have find that one fast.

    Colored duct tape is how I find them fast, well after I manage to get them all together and that can be a chore.

    The special Sony controller is suppose to control the PS3, Home Theater, HDTV, but alas it's a Sony Home Theater you find out in the manual - it will control the Panasonic but only the channels and volume not enough to be that useful.

  72. Re:Easy by Imrik · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You left your car in a parking lot so I took it, it's mine now.

  73. Serial Numbers Work Just Fine by ssufficool · · Score: 1

    I was never a fan of re-labeling anything. It makes it obvious it's being tracked and is another layer of complexity in tracking the item. Most serial numbers are embedded in electronic device bios / firmware so this makes it easy to query using remote management (e.g. WMI, SNMP) as well as tracking software. The serial number is usually printed on the device and bar coded for your convenience. Most small claims courts (if it goes that far) won't argue with you if you have a record of the serial number in your possession.

  74. Re:Easy by drkim · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...Finders keepers and all that.

    Ah yes, "finders keepers" the law of the elementary school playground...

    Here in the grown-up world, there are other laws. If you were a grown-up, living in the Silicon Valley, instead of "finders keepers" you would be charged with something called "Possession of stolen property" penal code section 496. Depending on the value (@ $400) it would either be a misdemeanor or a felony; with penalties of one year in county jail, or three years in state prison, respectively.

    Although "possession" means that you have the stuff on you, you can also be charged with "constructive possession of stolen property" which means that they find the stuff in your house or room or car.

    If you are in possession of something that isn't yours, you have a duty to notify the police or the owners.

  75. 5S Organization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My pliers have a sticker on them that says "pliers." My diagonal cutters have a hang tag that says "diagonal cutters" since a sticker that said "diagonal cutters" would not fit on the handle. And so on for all of my tools.

    Then on the wall, there is a picture of some "diagonal cutters" where the diagonal cutters go, and there is a picture of some pliers where the pliers go. There's a box drawn on the desk labeled "oscilloscope" where the oscilloscope goes, and there's a box drawn on the desk labeled "isolation transformer" where the isolation transformer goes.

    See, I'm seriously retarded, and I need 5S to keep me organized, because I would have no idea where to put these things were it not drawn out for me like I'm 5.

  76. Pink Zip Ties by repetty · · Score: 1

    Pink zip ties. Works fine in small groups.

  77. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You must be a christian they do things like that!

  78. Re:Easy by sumdumass · · Score: 1

    You lose your shit and I find it, it becomes my shit.

    until someone claims it was stolen (because the loss could never be due to their incompetence) and you end up with 5 years in the pen for the fall back crime when they cannot pin theft on you but find you with the goods "receiving stolen property".

    But hey, you might be able to spend enough money to have a lawyer argue your way out of it. But then you have problems with the legal definition between lost and misplaced and various requirements to report found property which differ from area to area.

    In the situation described in the article, the item would likely have been deemed misplaced and not lost and taking the item could be considered theft. Do as you want, just be prepared for consequences should they arise.

  79. (-1) Flamebait by jazzdude00021 · · Score: 1

    Can we mod this whole article (-1) Flamebait and move on? I see enough troll food here to keep them fed for weeks.

    Seriously, if you don't know how to label your stuff as yours and/or keep track of it, /. might just be a little too advanced for you. Even so, this is a community that openly discusses stealing copies of Windows and other legally questionable acts. The advice may be good, but we also know how to work around most of the preventions you put in place (and if we don't Google probably does).

    But really, the only reason this article should exist on /. is to keep the trolls fed here so they don't interfere with actual insightful comments elsewhere.

  80. Good ol' soldering iron by moxsam · · Score: 2

    Give your gear a proper branding. Yeehaw!

    1. Re:Good ol' soldering iron by plover · · Score: 1

      Branding works great on wooden handles of shovels, rakes, etc. This is the kind of device my uncle's heating and plumbing shop used: http://brandingirons.com/propa... But it's not so useful on computer gear or metal or plastic cases.

      Not recommended for use on co-workers.

      --
      John
  81. This? On my Slashdot? by FuzzNugget · · Score: 1

    How to I label maker? Really?

  82. Re:Easy by Jawnn · · Score: 1

    Be more careful and don't lose your shit. If I found something, even with a name on it, I'd keep it. Finders keepers and all that.

    You are "what's wrong with the world today". You probably text in movie theaters and while driving because, you know, it's all about you. Right?

  83. I've labeled my keyboard by aliquis · · Score: 1

    ... with my DNA.

  84. Business card by brindafella · · Score: 1

    In the case cited, a business card slipped into the case/box/etc can be a quick identifier. Folded if necessary for a smaller item. For people who don't normally have business cards, then make some for such instances out of card stock or printer paper, and cut along the lines. Most office or publishing programs will help you design and print cards. A hand-written card is also okay, and might even be better in the instance mentioned.

    --
    Looking at space, radio, science and computing from a 'down-under' amateur enthusiast perspective.
  85. Where's the Cadillac? by DeathElk · · Score: 1

    Damn, you traded the Blues Mobile for a microphone, then you lost the microphone. Pure fail, all 'round.

  86. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  87. Re:Easy by azzy · · Score: 1

    In some countries this would be theft by finding.

  88. Even an AOL CD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even an AOL cd

  89. I tend to lose bullets easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can keep them!

  90. Just buy another by sk999 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    We all lose stuff. The real question is what inconvenience was caused. If it is not very high, just buy another and move on. It might irk you if you think it's expensive, but after a while the cost will fade into the background. Not worth obsessing over.

    1. Re:Just buy another by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      Proper mic's get expensive quite fast.

    2. Re:Just buy another by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you have never had to buy XLR mic cables out of your own pocket. A typical event is using hundreds of dollars of mic cables and patch cords, that stuff is pricey.

  91. Re:Easy by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

    yes that "lost iphone" caused a but-load of hurt for a number of people - at at least gawker could play there "we are journalists card" to mitigate some of the legal come back a member of joe public not so much.

  92. The ususal by Karmashock · · Score: 1

    I mostly label cables whenever there are a lot of them or it gets complicated.

    Every ethernet jack is labeled with a number. The same number is written on the cable at the switch.

    It lets me do things like disconnect a given jack by unplugging it from the switch. Or diagnose issues by substituting different appliances.

    --
    I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
  93. Entertaining by Arancaytar · · Score: 3, Funny

    A group of Anonymous Cowards playing the Internet Tough Guy game together is honestly pretty funny.

  94. Good luck with that by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    That judge will surely be convinced if you dismiss the law as their personal opinion.

  95. Wow Slashdot has changed a lot in the past years.. by deijmaster · · Score: 1

    I used to come to Slashdot not only for great stories but also solid comments... Seems things have changed these days and Slashdot is letting kids post ridiculous comments... Call me grandpa, but we're better than this.

  96. P-Touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use a Brother P-Touch labeling machine, with 1" black print on white background, extra strength, non-laminated label tapes. These label tapes cost less than $0.02 per foot for intelligent geeks, and $1.00 per foot for marketing idiots. (Which are You?)

    I label every cable in my place, on both ends, with where it goes. This is not an "it's mine!" thing, rather it's an "this goes here" thing. I tore down my entertainment center (3 rackounts, plus screen, plus other stuff) and rewired it in a new set of cabinets in one try. Every single thing worked on the first try.

    I use the same labels to identify items that might be "mislaid" like laptops and cell phones. One label is very prominent. It has my name and a way to contact me. There are many other labels, on the internal HDD, under batteries, and the like. I had to use them once against one of my students (I'm a teacher) who tried to make off with my cell phones. She got sent to the alternative school.

    A label with Your name and phone number on a USB flash drive will most likely get You a text message saying "USB drive in room A159." It saves my students' butts every day.

  97. Maybe a hybrid approach is called for here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Engrave your info into the item, then go over it with a high-contrast permanent-ink marker. Sure, the surface ink can be removed, but a lot of it will settle into the grooves and be pain to get out completely. Also, add some bright neon orange, red or yellow duct tape to the item so that it won't blend in with the background so easily. If you want it recoverable, you could add a boomerang tag (or any of the other services like it) but that will require the person(s) that find your devices to actually have some degree of morals. If you think the item may eventually work its way into a pawn shop or police evidence locker, then you could go with something less visible like Cop-Dots etc. Each of these things can increase the possibility you will either not lose the item in the first place, or get it back when you do lose it. But, sadly, nothing can guarantee it...

  98. Then Be Carefull and Watchful of your belongings by Fourgaver · · Score: 1

    What do you do to keep your stuff yours? Simply as this... We should have to be really taking care of the things we have. We know the fact that Its not all the time we can manage to think, see or check it every once in a while. I think! It doesn't matter though if we put name, sticker, or markings to let everyone know that it's ours. If someone wants to steal it? then they really wanted to do it! because it's a sickness from them that they'd like to steal without the knowledge of everybody. On my own Opinion, If I were to asked? why not keep it myself, hand it carefully or after using something keep it. But still just be watchful of your belongings.

  99. Fuck Yes!!! by danielblair · · Score: 1

    With none other than my Brother P-Touch PT-2710!!!

    --
    -- Daniel R. Blair Senior Software Architect/Unix & FreeBSD Guru/DJ w: http://unixcoders.org t: @freebsd_hacker
  100. Re:Easy by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    But even if you're a fine upstanding citizen, and return the lost property to the "lost and found", wouldn't the holders of the lost and found also be possessing stolen property? What protects them from the same fate as a thief?

    This whole discussion mixes legal and moral issues. All that aside, the article is asking "What's the best way to write my name on my stuff?". Maybe there is no one simple answer, but there are many alternatives. How about claiming the lost item on your insurance?

  101. Re: lacking answers here, ask roadie on a band for by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    I wonder if your roadies have the same creed as above....

  102. DNAall the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I pee on my equipment so that it has my DNA all over it :)

    Then a "morally ambivalent finder" can have the items checked for DNA, and *BANG*, the item is returned to my door step by a smiling courier :)

  103. And here I thought it was alien abductions...... by rts008 · · Score: 1

    If it doesn't move, PUT IT IN THE TRUCK.

    This explains some of the 'wake up in a strange place, without a clue' scenarios I used to experience frequently in the 1960's and 1970's.

    I'm not sure I whether I should be relieved, or more frightened now.....

    --
    Down With Slashdot BETA!!! I've been around the corner and seen the oliphant; you can only abuse me from your perspecti
  104. I call it the "Agile Social Development System"... by rts008 · · Score: 1

    Not recommended for use on co-workers.

    I would beg to differ with you on this point.

    Since I started roping and dragging co-workers to the fire, then branding them, no one comes in my office and disturbs me anymore. I find I am much more focused and sane now. ;-)

    --
    Down With Slashdot BETA!!! I've been around the corner and seen the oliphant; you can only abuse me from your perspecti
  105. No label by Benzainload895 · · Score: 1

    For me I don't usually label my things, It's just I Don't Like. Because I really take care of them. Actually it only depends on the owner how he/she will took care of the things they have so that it will not be stolen. If you will just be mindful and watchful of your things it will not be stolen. Unless if you let that someone!

  106. Allways label AC adapters by advid.net · · Score: 1

    At home I always label AC adapters (chargers and power bricks) with the name of the device.
    I use a marker on a piece of paper fully covered by transparent duct tape.
    It turns out to be a very good habit, many times I've been glad to have done it.

    I also add my name for the cell phone chargers, as they can be brought here and there in other places.
    This isn't against thieves but to avoid that someone makes a mistage and tage mine, or just in case I forget it somewhere.

    If I were afraid of being robbed by some people I have to be with, I would etch my name on the device and its parts.
    Any steel spike do the job. On visible areas as well on concealed or internal spot of the device.

  107. Re:Easy by JJJJust · · Score: 3, Informative

    Possession of stolen property requires that the property was stolen in the first place.

    To steal something requires (among other elements) an intent to deprive the rightful owner of enjoyment of the property.

    If you take something for the purpose of turning it in, that intent is not present and thus the property is not considered stolen.

  108. re: Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yeah yeah, I'm sure you were the top the class in navy seals and have over 500 confirmed kills...

  109. Re: lacking answers here, ask roadie on a band for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it's wet, drink it.
    If it's dry, smoke it.
    If it moves, fuck it.
    If it doesn't move, PUT IT IN THE TRUCK.

    Really? Advocating rape en passant like this?
    Someone please moderate this.

  110. Watch and learn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lowest priority - ROTN
    Med priority - ROTN2
    High priority - ROTN3
    Holy shit! We're fucked now! - ROTN4

    Well that's how I do mine at least.

  111. Nail by John+Allsup · · Score: 1

    Varnish! (Works a treat for colour coding things like laptop PSUs.)

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    John_Chalisque
  112. Or a label maker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cheap label maker for me - wall warts (what they go to), external hard drives (size etc), phones (contact info if found), hell even ski boot with my name because I sometimes end up in a house with 20 other people. Just make it easy for me to tell what things are, and easy for others to return junk to me. Not theft deterrent.

  113. Re:Easy by kimvette · · Score: 1

    They come from Pabst-guzzling white trash.

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    The Christian Right is Neither (Christian nor right). See: Matthew 23, Matthew 25, Ezekiel 16:48-50
  114. StuffBak by Grant+Root · · Score: 1

    I've been putting StuffBak (http://www.stuffbak.com) stickers on all of my tech stuff (and other things like suitcases) for a while now. Since then I haven't lost anything, but I think it's a good investment.

  115. Re:Easy by FreedomFirstThenPeac · · Score: 1

    Don't believe in IP either, I'll bet.

    Try reading Pirate Cinema . Absent evidence to the contrary, I think the hero in this book is a self-centered solipsistic me-firster who is more than a little representative of the type ... "finder's keepers and all that" ... yeah, right.

    But then again, the evil-doers in the book are front-page news today IRL as they try to write their ownership tags on infrastructure items like the internet. Sort of as if I were to go paint a great big "This road is mine, pay toll at the stop sign", which I would back up by standing by said stop sign with a squeegee and a can of spray paint, so I could deliver the appropriate thank you to the people who deign to drive "my" highway.

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    "There is no god but allah" - well, they got it half right.
  116. Engraving by _hAZE_ · · Score: 1

    It's been about 20 years since I did this, but back-in-the-day, I worked for a school district that hand-engraved every single piece of equipment that it purchased. I was responsible for deploying a few hundred PCs, from receiving from our vendor to physical setup and software installation. Somewhere early in the process, I had to write down a serial number, assign and put on an asset tag sticker, and then use a Dremel to "neatly" (as good as I could do at 15 years old) engrave the school district's initials into the chassis somewhere (usually the underside or rear). Looking back on it now, I probably could have saved myself a lot of headache if I had engraved every single device in a similar fashion at all of my employers since then. Yeah, removing small chunks of plastic or metal may not be the ideal solution, but it certainly is one of the more permanent solutions. I haven't looked at laser engraving, perhaps that's a bit "neater".

    Now I have a sudden urge to carve my initials into my belongings..

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    Don Head
    UNIX/Linux Administrator
  117. Re:I call it the "Agile Social Development System" by plover · · Score: 1

    I find I am much more focused and sane now

    I would beg to differ with you on this point. :-)

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    John
  118. engrave email address by TerryKing · · Score: 1

    Handheld diamond engraver for Laptops, cameras, phones. Sometimes wipe in white or black marker to make obvious.
    Sharpie WHITE paint marker on larger items like Kayaks, dark microphones etc.
    Email Address. If you see terry@terryking.us it's MINE :-)

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    Regards, Terry King ...In The Woods In Vermont
  119. welders paint pen by slackware+3.6 · · Score: 1

    You need xylene to wash that shit off.

  120. Stickers by vandamme · · Score: 1

    I dunno about you, but I get address labels every freaking day from a wide range of charities. Apparently recent research has shown it ups their take if they send you this stuff (along with a note pad, nickel, cards...). Unless you send out a lot of snail mail (more than one a month, for me), what else are they good for?

    Paint pens work well too. Better than sharpies.