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India Plans Mission To Probe Sun By 2020

An anonymous reader writes "India is planning a mission to probe the Sun before 2020. The nation launched a Moon mission a few years ago and sent a Mars mission late last year. From the article: 'Indian Space Research Organization has lined up over a dozen missions, including its first probe on the Sun, Isro chairman K Radhakrishnan said on Friday. Though, the mission to probe the Sun was already on the cards, the agency now has a clear picture of its plan and had put a timeframe within which it hoped to undertake it, Radhakrishnan said, while addressing students at a private University here. He said the "Aditya" mission to the Sun had been planned between 2017 and 2020.'"

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  1. Take ... by jamesl · · Score: 1

    ... ice

    1. Re:Take ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, keep a close eye on the captain, and don't let him remove the mainframe from the coolant bath.

    2. Re:Take ... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 4, Funny

      "... ice"

      They won't need ice. They're going at night.

    3. Re:Take ... by cayenne8 · · Score: 0

      ...ice

      I guess they'll have to, otherwise everything in the Squishee machine will melt long before the arrive.

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    4. Re:Take ... by ignavus · · Score: 1

      "... ice"

      They won't need ice. They're going at night.

      I thought the ice was for the astronauts to get high on just before they try their first solar landing.

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    5. Re:Take ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When Sarah Palin runs NASA

    6. Re:Take ... by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Oh dear. I hope they remember to bring shoes.

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    7. Re:Take ... by LongearedBat · · Score: 1

      They're going into a sun spot... you know, a hole where the sun don't shine (as brightly).

    8. Re:Take ... by kevingolding2001 · · Score: 1

      They're going into a sun spot... you know, a hole where the sun don't shine (as brightly).

      No, that's Uran... Nah, too easy.

  2. Mission to feed poor.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    In related news - mission to feed the poor in India still dependent on foreign aid.

    1. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by SJHillman · · Score: 1

      In related news: Food is dependent on the sun. Understanding the sun better could be key to increasing yields.
      In other news: Space tech often makes it way down to doing practical things, including help feed the poor

    2. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by jma05 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      India does get foreign aid. But I would not call it "dependent".

    3. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually India offers foreign aids to other foreign countries too. India is still a net gainer in foreign aid (receives more foreign aid, that it gives out to other countries), but calling them dependent on foreign aid is ridiculous. It is peanuts compared to their yearly budget.

    4. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by ZeroPly · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Isn't that what Americans were saying about Apollo? Here you go:

      A rat done bit my sister Nell.
      (with Whitey on the moon)
      Her face and arms began to swell.
      (and Whitey's on the moon)
      I can't pay no doctor bill.
      (but Whitey's on the moon)
      Ten years from now I'll be payin' still.
      (while Whitey's on the moon)
      The man jus' upped my rent las' night.
      ('cause Whitey's on the moon)
      No hot water, no toilets, no lights.
      (but Whitey's on the moon)
      I wonder why he's uppi' me?
      ('cause Whitey's on the moon?)
      I wuz already payin' 'im fifty a week.
      (with Whitey on the moon)
      Taxes takin' my whole damn check,
      Junkies makin' me a nervous wreck,
      The price of food is goin' up,
      An' as if all that shit wuzn't enough:
      A rat done bit my sister Nell.
      (with Whitey on the moon)
      Her face an' arm began to swell.
      (but Whitey's on the moon)
      Was all that money I made las' year
      (for Whitey on the moon?)
      How come there ain't no money here?
      (Hmm! Whitey's on the moon)
      Y'know I jus' 'bout had my fill
      (of Whitey on the moon)
      I think I'll sen' these doctor bills,
      Airmail special
      (to Whitey on the moon)

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    5. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In related news - America still has a mission to feed its poor.

    6. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by Teancum · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Are you serious? Do you really think that this probe to the sun is going to result in better growing of crops? Seriously? Do you really think that India's money spent on a sun probe will result in more food than say the same investment in solar panels for a more steady electricity supply?

      Yes, I do think that a probe into the sun to understand some of the environment which makes up the photosphere and the outer layers of the Sun better will indeed be far better spent money than dumping that into a bunch of foreign-made solar panels in some remote village to provide a steady supply of electricity. This is especially true for a country with as many people as live in India, where the individual investment into such a project is quite small per person and the pay-off can be so much more.

      Try to learn about basic research and the benefits that have come from it. I certainly don't feel bad about myself feeling this way nor should SJHillman for that matter either. Basic research in space (including the stuff going on with the ISS) has been able to feed, clothe, and in general improve the overall standard of living for far more people than any other single endeavor in the past hundred years. It is literally saving lives, lives which in many cases can even be counted. I will even go so far as to suggest that we've only just started on the ways it can help humanity as a whole, and India in particular.

      For this particular research in particular, it can help explain some of the non-anthroprogenic causes of global warming (IMHO something useful to know about too) and can certainly pave the way to help with much more accurate weather forecasts and other tools that can most certainly help out that village you are so concerned about. The pay-off for spending this money may take decades or even centuries to completely realize, but it will happen. A bit of a risk I suppose and knowing it is helping all of mankind at the same time rather than just the one village, but I certainly congratulate India on trying this project.

    7. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by tuxgeek · · Score: 2

      Really ? .. just when does that begin ?
      I thought Americas priority was subsidizing Monsanto, Exxon and helping out all those starving billionaires

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    8. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      This is how Anonymous Cowards think ....

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    9. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 2

      In related news - mission to feed the poor in India still dependent on foreign aid

      [citation needed]
       
      As far as I know, India actually sent foreign aids amounts to millions of dollars to African countries.

      Please correct me if I am wrong, but a country which is rich enough and has the money to send aids to other countries suppose to be not receiving any more aids.

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    10. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by symbolset · · Score: 1

      The War on poverty was the first of many hopeless wars on abstractions. It was proposed by Lyndon Johnson at his inaugural in 1964.

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    11. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by elbonia · · Score: 2

      Correct which is why India will no longer receive aid in the amounts it was once given.

    12. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by dbIII · · Score: 1

      In related news, India exports food, just like the USA, and has some people that live on the streets without enough to eat, just like the USA.

    13. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Please correct me if I am wrong, but a country which is rich enough and has the money to send aids to other countries suppose to be not receiving any more aids.

      Would it be seen as anti-Semetic to mention Israel at this point? Or would it be seen as just pointing out a place with damn good lobbyists and enough of an economy that they don't really need that aid money.

    14. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by kevingolding2001 · · Score: 1

      In other news: Space tech often makes it way down to doing practical things, including help feed the poor

      You mean like frying up all that food they don't have in Teflon frying pans? I kid, I kid.
      But you gotta admit that usually the link between space exploration and feeding the poor is quite indirect and relies on one of those "trickle down" types of theories.

    15. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by jrumney · · Score: 1

      India also supports other developing countries in a way which makes much more impact than the raw dollars they put into aid - patent-free medicine.

    16. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by jrumney · · Score: 1

      But that's military aid, which is an important part of the global war on humanity.

    17. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by dbIII · · Score: 1

      My mistake.
      It's also an important source of technology transfer - for instance the "businessmen" who sold a tank targeting system unavailable to all other US allies to a Chinese company, who then onsold it to Iran! To be fair the government of Israel were very unhappy about that one.

    18. Re:Mission to feed poor.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not so much about trickle down as about volume. If you took the entire space budget and applied
      it directly to poverty it wouldn't make a dent. Basic research makes up a small fraction of a country's
      budget but has the potential to produce a million time return. Think antibiotics, combines, etc..
      Here is a good explaination: http://launiusr.wordpress.com/...

  3. so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are they gonna land? (at night, of course)

    1. Re:so... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      They can now, because they're not a part of the British Empire anymore.

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    2. Re:so... by kevingolding2001 · · Score: 1
      Maybe I'm just showing my age but... I got this joke.

      Well played sir.

  4. Watch out for Sun Ghosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And don't trust the Galactics. Some of them are sneaky buggers!

  5. Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i assume this is the first step in a long term solution for over population

    1. Re:Makes sense by SJHillman · · Score: 1

      Yes, they're going to start with the Slashdot ACs

  6. When they should be... by asmkm22 · · Score: 0

    Maybe they should start probing the constant raping going on. What a fucked up country.

    1. Re:When they should be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They could take all the rapists and put them on a manned mission. Two birds, one stone.

    2. Re: When they should be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of "probes" should they be using?

    3. Re:When they should be... by jma05 · · Score: 1

      Which country are you from? Is the per capita rape rate in your country much better?

    4. Re:When they should be... by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      Rape isn't comperable between countries. As Assange found out, consentual sex in sweeden can be "rape" and as such, the defintions are not uniform. And reported rapes are low in Saudi Arabia, where being raped is a capital crime. Some places encourage reported rapes, others discourage it, and the definition not being uniform leads to an inability to reliably compare rape statistics between countries.

    5. Re:When they should be... by Threni · · Score: 1

      Chances are that he's not from a country which sentences people to gang-rape:
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl...

      Sure, it's a cultural thing; best not interfere or comment, right?

    6. Re:When they should be... by Charliemopps · · Score: 0

      The "per capita rate" is mostly irrelevant when most of what the modern world would consider "Rape" is entirely legal in India. Once a woman has been married, often by force, under the age of 15, it is impossible for her to divorce and the only part of the sexual assault considered "Illegal" is if her "Husband" causes her physical injury. Then he's charged with misdemeanor assault, not rape.

      Then there's the armed "Rape squads" patroling the slums where not much of anything will be reported due to the complete lack of law enforcement... the child prostitution rings, which have girls enslaved under the age of 10 who are then raped for money by older men.

      So I don't know if the per-capital rate is higher or lower in my country, but I know one thing for sure, if I were a woman, a romantic walk in the moonlight of India would not be in my bucket list.

    7. Re:When they should be... by mr100percent · · Score: 1

      Being raped is not a capital crime in Saudi Arabia. The myth of that got out when a married woman claimed she was raped, and since there wasn't enough evidence to prove it, the prosecutor decided to charge her with adultery. It's screwed up and Muslims around the world protested the case, but they're a US-backed dictatorship and that's that.

    8. Re:When they should be... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Adultry isn't just married infidelity. Sex outside marriage is adultry (not just being married and having sex with a non-spouse, but having any sex with someone you aren't married to, regardless of your and their marriage status) in many of "those places". Being raped is not a defense for adultry. So yes, being raped can be a capital crime. That's not a myth. That's the law.

    9. Re:When they should be... by mr100percent · · Score: 2

      Citation needed. Sex outside of marriage is referred to as "Zina" in Saudi Arabia, which is not a capital offense. Adultery is a subset of sex crime law, and is punished by flogging if unmarried, only married people qualify for capital punishment for adultery..

    10. Re:When they should be... by cavreader · · Score: 1

      They do not need anyone's backing and that definitely includes the US. China would gladly replace the US in SA. As long as they can sell their oil to anyone they want they hardly need US backing. People claiming the US backs dictators and non-democratic leaders are practically calling for the US to interfere in another countries internal matters. On the other hand they also complain when the US does interfere so the best course of action would be to do nothing which appears to be the current US foreign policy.

    11. Re:When they should be... by mr100percent · · Score: 1

      Current US foreign policy is not "do nothing." The US government backed the Bahraini dictatorship and looked the other way as their police fired on pro-democracy protestors and refused to sanction the government despite its documented use of torture and human rights abuses. Why? Because the Bahraini king allowed the US Navy to park its ships there. The US government approved the sale of weapons to the Saudi dictatorship that human rights groups warned would be used on protestors and for torture (e.g. selling huge shipments of cattle prods to the Saudi government even though they don't have many cows). It's creating a whole generation of people who dislike America, despite the fact that the US was quite popular up until recently.

    12. Re:When they should be... by kevingolding2001 · · Score: 1

      The myth of that got out when a married woman claimed she was raped, and since there wasn't enough evidence to prove it, the prosecutor decided to charge her with adultery.

      Which means that the myth is not really a myth and is in fact a fact, as you have just illustrated.

    13. Re:When they should be... by cavreader · · Score: 1

      Exactly how did they back the Bahraini government? Deploy troops? Issue dire warnings and threats against protestors? Initiate drone strikes on the protesters? They issued a standard statement to the effect that people have complaints that should be solved peacefully through dialog and not violence, Anything more than that and it is considered interfering in another countries internal business isn't it?

    14. Re:When they should be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you care to Google, per capita rape is highest in United states. US is the rape capital of the world, and the Americans would not even squeak, forget about protesting in DC.

    15. Re: When they should be... by mr100percent · · Score: 1

      Compare how the US responded to similar actions in Iran; the president held press conferences and pressed the issue at the UN and got Europe to agree to sanctions. With Bahrain, no action was taken; the implication being that protesters' livesans democracy are worth less than navy parking spaces.

      US-made tanks sold to Saudi stormed into Bahrain and crushed the protests. The US government decided that was not enough reason to deny further sales.

    16. Re:When they should be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "a romantic walk in the moonlight of India would not be in my bucket list"
      i think thats why they are probing the sun

    17. Re: When they should be... by cavreader · · Score: 1

      You cannot compare the US relationship with Bahrain with US relations with Iran. Last time I checked Bahrain was not funding and arming just about every terrorist group in the region for the express purpose of undermining US policy. Hezbollah and Hamas are Iran's version of an NGO. When it comes to real world international relations every situation is different. In this case the Iranians were supporting and encouraging the Bahrain protesters to undermine the government of Bahrain. You know just like the US is always being accused of doing. The last thing the US wanted was to help Iran destabilize Bahrain. Haven't you noticed that lately the US is really not doing anything but issuing tough sounding statements followed up with no discernible actions? Frankly it would be better if they would cease making any statements at all. And like I mentioned before not selling US military tech to SA would change nothing. SA can get arms from a number of other countries. Why should the US give up the money earned by military sales when it will not effect the situation? The US is not the only game in town these days and the constant demonizing of the US has allowed other countries such as Russia, China, North Korea, Syria, and Iran to slip under the radar and do anything they want. If you want to see what real "backing" is just look at the Russian and Iranian support of Syria.

  7. Probe to the sun? But it is 6000 degrees celsius. by bejiitas_wrath · · Score: 2

    How are they to withstand the heat and gravity sending a probe to the sun? Surely this is just to get close to take closeup pictures. But we have Helios for that. And will the probe be named the Icarus 1?

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  8. Re:Probe to the sun? But it is 6000 degrees celsiu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    They'll go at night

  9. They better go at night by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or at least in winter.

  10. Re:Probe to the sun? But it is 6000 degrees celsiu by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    Plus I hear the rent there is horrendous.

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  11. I Don't See How by DaMattster · · Score: 1

    With all of the problems that exist in India, I don't see how they are going to get it done. Even if they do, at what ultimate cost? I think of all those who will suffer as a result of a government fools errand.

    1. Re:I Don't See How by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because NASA totally waited until the US didn't have any homeless people before heading to space...

    2. Re:I Don't See How by Threni · · Score: 1

      India has more than a `homeless` problem; I don't see how you can equate the two, unless you're rather willfully ignoring the massive problems India is turning its back on to fund these `we're in the space-age club too` extravagances.

    3. Re:I Don't See How by Teancum · · Score: 4, Insightful

      With all of the problems that exist in India, I don't see how they are going to get it done. Even if they do, at what ultimate cost? I think of all those who will suffer as a result of a government fools errand.

      While I will admit India has some problems, they are an emerging country and certainly not the destitute poor that you are making it out to be. I also admire the Indian space program as something which really is a top rated endeavor that ranks right with China, Russia, and America. They have very competent rocket scientists that know how to put a vehicle into orbit, and really aren't all that far away from being able to successful launch crewed flights of their own if it wasn't for stupid and silly comments like yours who depict India as some poor unfortunate backwater country not worthy of anything but pity.

      Heck, I am very impressed they are even considering this probe, and it represents a level of sophistication and ability which so far no other country on the Earth, not even America, has been able to accomplish. Getting something into the Sun takes more delta-v than a sample & return mission from Mars and in fact is harder than sending something into interstellar space like the Voyager missions. This literally is the frontier of human experience in any form and that by itself should speak volumes about what India is going to accomplish here.

    4. Re:I Don't See How by baker_tony · · Score: 1

      With all the problems in America, why on earth do you send probes in to outer space?

    5. Re:I Don't See How by Teancum · · Score: 2, Insightful

      India has more than a `homeless` problem; I don't see how you can equate the two, unless you're rather willfully ignoring the massive problems India is turning its back on to fund these `we're in the space-age club too` extravagances.

      At some point India needs to leave the "we is stupid 'n need your money 'cause we dn't know better" attitude. If there is something that India needs, it is to give its people the freedom to do whatever it is that they do best and stop trying to coddle them. Defend people's right to life, liberty, and property but otherwise stay out of their affairs and let them succeed rather than making everybody a charity case.

      I currently live in a place that a century ago was far more destitute and a much more harsh climate with a lack of basic resources than the poorest village in India right now. A century and a half ago the people here were so destitute that many starved to death and died from exposure, partly because of being driven out of their homes at gunpoint and forced to migrate hundreds of miles to live in a place that was largely depopulated because even nomadic hunter-gatherers had to move on due to drought. I don't think there is any excuse for India not to be able to solve its problems in due time, and in the meantime they have the resources and the capability of being able to send stuff into space too.

      India certainly doesn't need your pity. It is gradually solving its problems over time and they are certainly not insurmountable.

    6. Re:I Don't See How by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      India is large, with a very large population. To solve the food etc problems you're talking billions. They're also very good at doing things to a budget - their recent probe cost mere millions to do what the US/others would spend billions on. It's a drop in the ocean of what they'd need to solve their problems - spending the money on that would have almost no noticeable impact. What the space program does do is provide a boost to the economy and morale... every launch spends its money somewhere and that's often going back into businesses within the country, which goes to others, going to others... a ripple effect throughout their entire economy. Investing in a country through programs like these can give real improvements to their entire economy, and as a result giving them more cash to spend on solving their problems. It's very easy to argue a case that spending the millions on their issues would be a short-term fix only and not do anything to lift them out of that long-term, but investing it can boost them enough longterm that they'll no longer have those problems to solve at all so it's more cost-effective to do the latter.

    7. Re:I Don't See How by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So well said!! It's like building a rocket in a cluttered company.

    8. Re:I Don't See How by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The knowledge-less morons and trolls are out in full force.

    9. Re:I Don't See How by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Straw man. There are literally hundreds of millions of people in India without access to sanitation, electricity and running water - more than 1/3 of the population. Do you honestly think that 1/3 of the US population was in that situation at the time of the Apollo program?

    10. Re:I Don't See How by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What nobody seems to be pointing out is that having a program to build rockets that can boost payloads into low earth orbit and beyond is exactly the kind of technology one needs to develop ICBMs and tends to be a bit more politically correct.

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    11. Re:I Don't See How by SJHillman · · Score: 1

      So where is the line then?

    12. Re:I Don't See How by symbolset · · Score: 1

      India has more than enough trees and land and labor to build homes and sewers for everyone. They could. They just don't. Probably for the same reason the US has far vacant more homes than homeless people.

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    13. Re:I Don't See How by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because Von Braun and hitlers war circus gave them the rockets ..

    14. Re:I Don't See How by ganesh.rao · · Score: 0

      To bad for you, the world doesn't look at India's satellite-rockets as an ICBM military program, when the level of threat is far below any country on the planet. India has never invaded another country in over a millennia. It is the only country to be supplied by NSG whilst not having signed the NPT. Any takers?

    15. Re:I Don't See How by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      India already has ICBMs. Show us one instance where India attacked anyone in the last 500 years.

      So, sir, in your american language, which is not decent English even, you should really "go fuck yourself".

  12. What could be learned by going to the sun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a valid question? We can already evaluate and test for radiation and sun activity with the observing satellites we have up there already? We're better off checking Venus and Mercury for more data. In the end the probe will eventually wear out but at least we got more info then a straight shot into the sun. Dumb.

  13. Re:Probe to the sun? But it is 6000 degrees celsiu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but it's a dry heat, and the traffic is better...

  14. Re:A Complete waste of Energy by jma05 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not really...

    a.) India always does it cheaper.
    b.) The capability will go towards providing commercial space services. Its a money maker, rather than a drain. India is already doing this.
    c.) The problem India has now is not so much as not having money. It does not have non-corrupt institutions to properly distribute the resources. They will improve as education improves in subsequent generations who will then elect better politicians, demand cleaner systems and more effectively fight for their rights. Projects like these inspire students.

  15. Old Dan Quayle joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Vice President Quayle declared that the US should be the first nation to complete a manned space to the Sun.

  16. Im playing KSP, and I know.. by Quai · · Score: 1

    Im playing KSP, and I know it is damn hard to get to the sun^W^Wkerbol, even with infinite fuel enabled!

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  17. Re:Probe to the sun? But it is 6000 degrees celsiu by broken_chaos · · Score: 1

    They'll name it Icarus, of course. It's just what you do when sending anything towards the sun.

  18. I hope by Cheviot · · Score: 0

    I hope they're planning on going at night!

    1. Re:I hope by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 0

      plus, it has to happen fast. ie, do the speedful.

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    2. Re:I hope by spitzak · · Score: 2

      To keep everything organized, I recommend that all posts mentioning going at night be arranged under this one.

    3. Re:I hope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Warning; Going at night could be a symptom of bigger problems, and may lead to uncomfortable sleeping arangements.

      I recommend waiting till morning before going, unless you're already up, possibly coming.

  19. Re:Probe to the sun? But it is 6000 degrees celsiu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But that's silly!

    It's high noon over here when it's nighttime over there! Psh. Indians. Don't they know anything about science? No wonder their engineers suck.

  20. Re:Probe to the sun? But it is 6000 degrees celsiu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They know better than that. The actual plans call for them to fly all the way around and land on the dark side of the sun.

  21. Re:Over Half of Indians In Crushing Poverty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When America was deeply involved in the space race, black people were 2nd class citizens, their churches were being bombed & their protests were set upon by police dogs and the infant mortality rate wasn't much better than that of present-day India.

    Perhaps they shouldn't have cars, airplanes, or computers until they raise their population up to standards you find acceptable.

  22. And the Poles have one planned in 2019 but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    theirs is a man mission.

  23. Re:Probe to the sun? But it is 6000 degrees celsiu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the jokes aside about them going at night or landing on the dark side of the sun,

    If they do go, just keep your ears ready to hear this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b5ueiALdB0 :)

  24. But North Korea already did it! by envelope · · Score: 4, Funny
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    1. Re:But North Korea already did it! by taiwanjohn · · Score: 1

      Thank you! I was going to post that if nobody else had.

      Unfortunately it's a "hoax" story, from a site like TheOnion.com, but it's pretty convincing. ;-)

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  25. Apply heavy sarcasm filters for this comment... by rts008 · · Score: 1

    LOL!
    That's a fascinating read.

    A 4 hour filight to the sun(at night, to avoid being burned up!), landed and collected sunspot samples to bring back for the Supreme Leader, and back home by 9:00 P.M. in bed for school the next day...all by a 17 year old boy/astronaut.

    Truly remarkable!

    The best our youth(USA) can do is cost their fathers $80,000 by posting crap on facebook...sad, really. ;-)

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  26. The Sun huh? by thefoul · · Score: 0

    I just hope they put their top guys on this and figure out that they need to go at night!

    --
    The runcible rhythm of ravenous raisins rolled through the rookery rambling and raving.
  27. Megadeath did this already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    During their concert they flew their black space ship into the sun.

    1. Re:Megadeath did this already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that's where they found Jesus?

  28. Why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why bother with the sun... we know most of what we need to know about the Sun already... what will India of all places be able to learn more than what NASA already knows...
    This is just a waste of money.

  29. Re:Over Half of Indians In Crushing Poverty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I take it was hundreds of millions of blacks, or a very high proportion of the US population, right? You know that it was nowhere near those figures. No, India's problems are at least one order of magnitude more serious than those of the US in the 60s. Indulging in this me-too space program nonsense is making India look like a country with a humongous inferiority complex, resorting to a grossly immoral and pathetic approach to keep it in check.

  30. A good thing it's unmanned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Otherwise they would have to install toilets - a technology that India has yet to master.

  31. Why is it when it comes to India ... by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... you guys just have to make crude jokes ?

    I mean, India has all the rights that all the other nations (whether it be USA or Russia) have to send their craft to Sun, Moon, Mars or wherever they want to send them to.

    Or just because it's India that you guys think they'll somehow fucked up ?

    The truth is everybody has had hick-ups in their own space missions - NASA included.

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    1. Re:Why is it when it comes to India ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      These are "flying to the sun" jokes, not India jokes. Lighten up.

      But like all good space travelers they should remember to bring a towel. And mind their heads.

      .

    2. Re:Why is it when it comes to India ... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      everybody has had hick-ups in their own space missions

      You mean they chose an astronaut from Kansas?

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    3. Re: Why is it when it comes to India ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lighten the fvck up. what are you some Indian shill now. you should know EVERYBODY gets joked on here at /. or was your account hijacked by someone at w00w00.

      captcha: sellout

  32. Re:Over Half of Indians In Crushing Poverty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do you go from "planning a probe" to "examining the sun is one of our top priorities"? Unless literally everything they do is their top priority?

  33. It is called welfare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The lazy, stupid, and (rarely unfortunate) apply for and get aid so they do not become homeless, feed their children and have time to watch television and plan crimes.

    America's 'poor' people have:
    - Housing that meets building codes
    - Electricity
    - Hot and cold water, shower, bathtub
    - Food
    - Most have internet and cable tv

    America's poor are well off compared to many other countries.

  34. Re:A Complete waste of Energy by NoKaOi · · Score: 1

    c.) The problem [India | United States | China etc etc etc] has now is not so much as not having money. It does not have non-corrupt institutions to properly distribute the resources. They will improve as education improves in subsequent generations who will then elect better politicians, demand cleaner systems and more effectively fight for their rights. Projects like these inspire students.

    FTFY. Also, the part about fixing it being reality is the funniest bit of satire I've read in a long time

  35. Whitey on the moon by NFN_NLN · · Score: 1
  36. Star Trigger? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what the Star Trigger was.

  37. Better arrive at night.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They better arrive at night otherwise .... molten metal...

  38. Sour Grapes by Greyfox · · Score: 2

    Just because your superpower is on the decline and no longer has the capability to do a manned space mission, you don't need to piss on the rising ones for taking their first steps. 40 years from now when they're mining asteroids and outsourcing their cheap crap to the USA, they might come back and rub your nose in it.

    --

    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

  39. Re:A Complete waste of Energy by Bonobo_Unknown · · Score: 1

    As much as we love to hate, the US is far less corrupt in basically every way measurable than India and China, and India makes China look like Northern Europe.

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    We don't believe in radical loony monotheistic religions from the middle east -- we're Christians.
  40. awesome by Swampash · · Score: 1

    A Third-World country of religious crazies who have nuclear weapons announcing that they're pushing ahead with advanced missile - oops, did I say that? I mean "payload delivery system" development.

    What's not to like?

    1. Re:awesome by Chrisq · · Score: 2

      A Third-World country of religious crazies who have nuclear weapons announcing that they're pushing ahead with advanced missile

      This is India not Pakistan. The government is strongly secular. If you are referring to some elements of the population, well the same description could cover America.

  41. Re:Over Half of Indians In Crushing Poverty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's like saying Now that i'm poor , i wont read a book , I want listen to music .. I will dig a hole untill i'm rich .

    ______
    Discussions about developing countries eventually end up retarded on /.

  42. Re:A Complete waste of Energy by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

    People demanding the government distribute resources is the PROBLEM, not the solution. We tried communism about 10 times in the last 100 years, it does not work. Markets remain the most efficient and on-target way to "distribute resources".

    Im also not sure what you think "corruption" means if youre placing the US, China, and India all in the same category.

  43. India in title? Cue cleverly disguised racism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Never fails on slashdot.

    Source, me. Slashdotter since 1996 who refuses to log in any more.

  44. The mission would be around the Earth. by abies · · Score: 1

    I hope they will do the needful to make sure probe can kindly revert with gathered data.

    On serious note, what does it mean that "mission would be around Earth"? Are we talking about some small sattelite orbiting Earth, which happens to have lenses directed at Sun? And this is "Mission to Probe Sun"? In such case, Hubble telescope was a mission to probe thousands of galaxies and millions of starts...

    1. Re:The mission would be around the Earth. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a bit of life advice: Don't ever do the needful things! Stephen King taught us better than that!

  45. Please no "WE GO AT NIGHT": jokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that is all.

    1. Re:Please no "WE GO AT NIGHT": jokes by organgtool · · Score: 1

      Agreed. It's too dark at night. They should go in the day but during the winter.

  46. Before you wrap up in the flag and sing by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Before you wrap up in the flag and sing about how much better your country is than theirs it may be worth noticing that their economy is growing and they don't have nearly half their elected officials trying to sabotage it so they can blame it on the half that is currently in charge.

  47. Development of space technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Development of space technology is the way to the military hegemony.

  48. Re:Probe to the sun? But it is 6000 degrees celsiu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have our own version of Icarus.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jatayu

  49. Re:Over Half of Indians In Crushing Poverty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The infant mortality was for the entire country, not just the black population. And that was just one example. Subsidized medical care was non-existent & the overall poverty rate was nearly 25%.

    So what if India's problems are bigger? The US derived a lot of benefits from the space race and so will India.

  50. Why every news from India is in future tense? Will by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    let's re-visit this post in 2020.

  51. And by NewYork · · Score: 1

    if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail

  52. they need to feed their people first instead of th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they need to feed their people first instead of this dumbass re-inventing of the wheel...
    i mean no clean water and wasting billions on this foolishness...

  53. rape in islam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In any Islamic country, being raped is effectively a crime. Here's why.

    Under Shariah law, anybody who claims to be raped has to produce 4 witnesses. This is from an incident in Mohammed's life where his wife Aisha (yeah, the 6 year old that he married, and thighed when she was 9) was accused of adultery. Mohammed had his so called 'revelations from allah' and demanded to know if there were 4 witnesses to it. Since there weren't, Aisha was exonerated.

    So far so good, and one would think that this would be an example of giving an adultery suspect a benefit of the doubt. However, in all schools of Islamic jurisprudence, the benefit of the doubt is given to rapists, whenever rape happens. So if a woman is raped, she has to produce 4 witnesses to prove it. Since no rapist is stupid enough to rape in the presence of 4 witnesses, no woman would ever report a rape if it didn't result, say, in her getting pregnant.

    To add insult to injury, if that is not enough, in the event that a woman does get pregnant in cases of rape, she would face sentencing under Islamic law. In countries like Saudi Arabia, she'd be stoned, while in more 'moderate' Islamic countries, she'd be jailed. A good number of women in jails in Pakistan, Afghanistan and elsewhere in the Muslim empire are there on adultery grounds: in fact, they are rape victims who got pregnant.

    There is nothing uniquely Saudi about this, and absolutely nothing American, but there is everything Islamic about this 'tradition'

  54. You might as well be walking on the sun by Meski · · Score: 1

    -- Smashmouth Now, If I were the Sun, I'd be upset by an alien probe.

  55. Re:Over Half of Indians In Crushing Poverty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes the toilet sciences will definitely improve with a trip to sun.

  56. Re:A Complete waste of Energy by jma05 · · Score: 1

    Let's not lump everything under communism which has many extra connotations. At most, what you are talking about is socialism. In India, almost everyone agrees that the country needs more education and that no one should have to starve (US poor are a different kind of poor, nothing like Indian poor). The problem is getting the resources to the most needy without most of it leaking out on the way there. Contrast US medicare. Even with some fraud, it is extremely efficient (in terms of money reaching recipients). India does not have such systems yet.

    Besides, you don't get to tell people of a democratic country, to have capitalism or socialism (which is what US did in its dictator driven satellite states, which were not yet ready for capitalism). They will choose. If the bulk of the population does not have entrepreneurial opportunity (lack of education to think systematically, assess risk, exploit capital channels etc), capitalism is meaningless and it will simply become code for feudalism.

    The question in India is - HOW. The question in US often is - WHETHER. Both are good questions in their respective contexts.

    US has less need for socialistic safeguards, while India still does (but less now, than 60 years ago). What India and China are at least theoretically doing is proper. First use socialism to get the basics right, get everyone operational and then peel it away slowly once the people can compete. Its the way we raise babies. We are not Spartans.

    When criticizing India or China, remember that these have been away from foreign domination only relatively recently (60 yrs), compared to US and Europe (several centuries). They are progressing nicely.

  57. Re:A Complete waste of Energy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you blithering idiot.
    Meanwhile India is a spiraling shithole, and Indian parasites are fleeing in droves to a country near you.

  58. Re:A Complete waste of Energy by jma05 · · Score: 1

    > spiraling shithole

    Since its independence from colonial rule, the country made advances in nearly every index. Go ahead, prove me wrong by finding charts to the contrary.

    > Indian parasites

    Parasites? Indian diaspora are quite productive and successful. In US, they have the highest per-capita incomes.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01...
    http://www.pewsocialtrends.org...
    http://www.npr.org/2012/05/29/...

    Today, an Indian-American runs Microsoft, an Indian-American is Miss USA and Indian-Americans reign spelling bee.

    Of course, facts don't matter to you - a vanilla racist bigot.

  59. Re:A Complete waste of Energy by jma05 · · Score: 1

    Correction: Miss America, not Miss USA