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New Facial Recognition Software May Detect Looming Road Rage

cartechboy writes "Well, since we have license plate readers tracking drivers, and GPS breaking down we're you're headed — its probably time for someone to know what mood you're in when you're driving. (Quick hint: often not a good one). Researchers at Switzerland's École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne have prototyped a dashboard camera that tracks facial movements and expressions to read a person's emotions while behind the wheel. The team has partnered with PSA Peugeot Citroën to create a version for actual cars to determine when drivers are angry — and have high potential for road rage. One challenge for the technology has been the wide range of expressions drivers have when they're pissed. Some people smile, for example. (Maybe as they raise their middle finger.) The engineers are working on future revs to be able to tell when drivers are fatigued or even just distracted." The detection part sounds interesting; coupled with remote kill-switches that some government agencies want, and ever deeper fly-by-wire technologies, it's sounds downright dystopian, though.

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  1. You seem upset Dave. by the_skywise · · Score: 2

    Why don't you take a stresstab and lie down for awhile.

    I'll just slow the car down in the meantime.

  2. Prepare for a long commute by travdaddy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Kill switches for when drivers get angry? If you thought gridlock was bad now, just wait until 50 angry stalled drivers are in front of you.

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    1. Re:Prepare for a long commute by Drethon · · Score: 2

      "Police report a drastic increase in people shooting their own cars." - Associated Press

  3. Re:Not that much more dystopian... by sh00z · · Score: 3

    ...and not dystopian for some. I have a friend who lost a brother who fell asleep at the wheel, crashed and died. Fatigue (or at the least, closed eyes) should be detectable with current technology, and could save lives now.

  4. even angrier by RichMan · · Score: 2

    So someone gets cut off. They get mad. Then the system auto-controlls or shuts the car down.
    Then the person gets even madder.
    And as they cannot even chase the original cause will then just open up on the traffic flow in general.

    I don't see this fixing anything unless it autoinjects some nice drugs.

  5. Re:waste of time by tbuddy · · Score: 2

    It could be great until it reaches far enough into laws you don't abide by or aren't even aware exist.

  6. Re:Not that much more dystopian... by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > No, you do not have an inalienable right to act out your aggressions on a publicly-funded highway.

    However this doesn't actually look for people acting out, it looks at facial expressions to determine if a person is mad. This may be interesting itself but, I would submit the population of people who get mad while driving is so much larger than those who actually act out their aggression that this is unlikely to be the least bit useful.

    This is using the fact that all criminals are found with water in their system as an excuse to monitor people who drink water.

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  7. Shut up already. by LoRdTAW · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The detection part sounds interesting; coupled with remote kill-switches that some government agencies want, and ever deeper fly-by-wire technologies, it's sounds downright dystopian, though.

    Jee, hyperbole much? Nowhere in the article is it mentioned that there will be any dystopian government interaction. That was your own shitty opinion piece. Its the same crap the article postulates:

    The real question is: when the Swiss team's camera detects anger or disgust, what will it do? Notify the authorities? Apply the car's brakes? Switch the radio to soothing music? Tell knock-knock jokes? What's the appropriate response?

    Stop it. Please. Those are some of the most idiotic question ever asked. The car wont do anything as this wont be installed in them. Why not? Simple: there are no answers for any of those silly questions that would avoid a legal minefield.

    Examples:
    Driver is angry and car detects it. So the car notifies the authorities.
    - Authorities don't care enough about some butthurt driver to stop looking for speeders which make the county/city/town money. Besides after the 1000th notification of road rage in the first ten minutes of their highway patrol shift they will just turn the damn computer off.

    Driver is angry and car detects it. So the car applies the brakes......
    - Causing the driver to lose control or a rear end collision. Car manufacturer is sued into oblivion. Camera recalled.

    Driver is angry and car detects it. So the car switches the radio to soothing music....
    - Which distracts the driver causing an accident. Or the driver can blame a road rage accident on the sudden blast of Michael Bolton which startled them while enjoying a beautiful morning on the highway in bumper to bumper traffic. Car manufacturer is sued into oblivion. Camera recalled.

    Not so serious but:
    Driver is angry and car detects it. So the car tells a knock knock joke....
    Driver is offended by joke along with a concerned watchdog group. Public outrage ensues. Camera recalled.

    What's the appropriate response?
    None. People will get angry. Its better to just let them scream or pound the steering wheel and let it out and then have a laugh. If it results in an accident and the drivers anger can be directly linked to the accident then let the courts decide the appropriate punishment.

    1. Re:Shut up already. by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I remember reading about nano-technology years ago in a car magazine. One use for this was that you could have the paint on your car change color. So you didn't have to worry about getting an appropriate colored car because you could change the color of your car any time you wanted.

      Ladies and Gentlemen, new for 2017--The Mood Car!

      That's right! Sensors will detect your mood and change the color of your car! Angry? Your car turns a flaming red. Calm and relaxed? A nice deep blue. So if I cut off some other guy and see his car turn red, I know I'd better get out of there!

  8. Re:Not that much more dystopian... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One day, it will be simply easier, less controversial and more productive to mandate all highway traffic to run on auto-driving mode.

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  9. Re:Not that much more dystopian... by TheCarp · · Score: 3

    as someone who has gone through periods of some nasty sleep disorders (so much better since I got some treatment), it doesn't really always happen like that. Generally yes, you lay down, close your eyes, THEN sleep. I do too....now.

    However an overly fatigued person, like I used to be, doesn't always do this. I have been mostly alseep and slipping into dream....before my eyes were closed.

    I shit you not, this is how I almost ended up with a similar crash. I was driving home alone from a party one night. I hadn't been drinking, but I was tired. I was doing a normal highway speed, in the 70s anyway.

    What happened in a nutsehll was I fell asleep and drifted to the shoulder. I woke up and turned the car, glancing off the side rail. How much of a glance? Well I didn't slow down, but the ENTIRE side of my car had a long superficial scratch down the side with a few minor dents. So....I was an inch or two from total disaster.

    Thing is, my eyes didn't close. I was entering an open eye dream state and then falling off. I know this because of the disassociated way I was thinking at the time. Litterally, my head was tilting to the side and the thought in my head....and I am not being cute here was actually "Oh look, the road is turning sideways, that isn't supposed to happen.". Luckily then I snapped back awake and turned the wheel but.... point being....closed eyes is not necessarily going to do it.

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  10. Re:Not that much more dystopian... by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 4, Funny

    Probably they settle for the eye tracking. Sensing distraction and sleepiness would prevent a lot of accidents. The car would alarm the driver or gently park by itself.

    Something like that (my emphasis in bold) would make it impossible for most guys to get anywhere in a car in most beach cities. Even worse, I can hear my wife now saying, "Would you keep your eyes on the road! We can't get there if the car parks itself every time some eye candy in a bikini is in view."

    Cheers,
    Dave

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  11. Re:Not that much more dystopian... by NatasRevol · · Score: 2

    A lot less deadly too.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...

    In the US, roughly 100 people per day die in vehicle crashes.

    It's only 2 per state! /sarcasm

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  12. Re:Not that much more dystopian... by TheCarp · · Score: 2

    All that would prove for me, is that I am listening to the news on the radio.

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  13. Re:Not that much more dystopian... by rogoshen1 · · Score: 2

    not sure if i want to mod up, or comment how right he is :( living in a free society has costs and risk. i'd rather deal with the risks than further ensconse ourselves in bubble-wrap "for our safety"

  14. Re:Not that much more dystopian... by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 2

    If it goes by facial expressions, I might not even be mad. Maybe I just have gas.

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  15. The Idea is Literally Orwellian by idontgno · · Score: 3

    It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself -- anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face (to look incredulous when a victory was announced, for example) was itself a punishable offence. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime, it was called.

    -- Nineteen Eighty-Four

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  16. What to look for by PPH · · Score: 2

    Some people smile, for example.

    This.

    Many people suffering from road rage are bat-shit crazy. I've seen people trying to cause accidents. And I've nearly been run off the road a few times by them myself. Overwhelmingly, they are laughing or have a silly grin on their face. Perhaps because they thought they caused (or nearly caused) someone else some grief.

    On the other hand, I recall an interesting incident from some years ago. I was in heavy traffic on an on ramp merging onto the freeway at a crawl. Traffic was (generally) alternating between ramp and freeway, every other car. I pulled in front of a dump truck. In my rear view mirror, I watched the guy behind me gun his SUV and try to make it between the dump truck and a jersey barrier. Not enough room, he got caught between the two. Then, he gunned his engine and squeezed through, tearing the hell out of his truck. So I'm watching him (behind me now) in my rear view mirror, grinning because he had just screwed the dump truck out of one position on the freeway. Sheet metal on what was (a few moments ago) a nice truck, hanging off the sides.

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