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Weev's Attorney Says FBI Is Intercepting His Client's Mail
Daniel_Stuckey (2647775) writes "The FBI is intercepting the prison correspondence of infamous Internet troll Andrew "weev" Auernheimer, including letters from his defense team, according to his attorney. 'He's sent me between 10 and 20 letters in the last month or two. I've received one,' Tor Ekeland, who had just returned from visiting Auernheimer at the federal corrections institute in Allenwood, PA., told the Daily Dot in a video interview.
Last March, Auernheimer was convicted of accessing a computer without authorization and sentenced to 41 months in prison. As a member of the computer security team Goatse Security, Auernheimer discovered a major security flaw in AT&T's network, which allowed him to download the email addresses of some 114,000 iPad users. Goatse Security reported the flaw to Gawker and provided journalists with the information, who then published it in redacted form."
Last March, Auernheimer was convicted of accessing a computer without authorization and sentenced to 41 months in prison. As a member of the computer security team Goatse Security, Auernheimer discovered a major security flaw in AT&T's network, which allowed him to download the email addresses of some 114,000 iPad users. Goatse Security reported the flaw to Gawker and provided journalists with the information, who then published it in redacted form."
read the article? “He’s been interrogated by FBI agents who’ve asked him questions about the contents of an attorney letter that he sent to me,”
Goatse Security? A guy named Tor? It's not April 1st yet is it?
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
Civilised society doesn't work like that.
If someone breaks a rule, and you punish them for it, you cannot them go off and break the same rule for them.
If someone steals something, it's not "justice" to steal something of theirs. That makes you just as bad as they are. And leads to "he did it to me first!" kind of baby-crap.
You show that you are an advanced, modern, civilised country by not breaking your own rules. Not carrying out "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" (where does that come from? Possibly the WORST example of literary fairness/justice there is. Mankind bad? I'll just drown the fucking lot of you in a flood....). And having nobody be above the law, not even courts, judges, or the leader of the country.
It doesn't mean you have to pussyfoot around. It doesn't mean you have to give prisoners playstations and compassionate leave and halve their sentences for good behaviour. It means you have to abide by the same rules that you are punishing others for breaking.
Also, if a populous gets a whiff of "one rule for me, another rule for them" being the actual greater truth of things (rather than an occasional spurious claim), then all the rules can soon become useless anyway and you descend into anarchy.
Unfortunately, this is lost on many "modern" countries.
Revenge is for five-year-olds who had their toy smashed. It invariably ends in tears and nobody having any toys.
That's snail-mail he's talking about.
davecb@spamcop.net
Quoting from the article is officially informative. We are either a time-constrained or a very lazy lot of posters here on Slashdot.
TFA implies only that the FBI had access to what was in the Attorney/client communiques, not who's surveillance arm gathered it.
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In prison, all communication to the outside public is recorded and screened.
Standard protocol.
Decent sp agencies try to avoid detection.
Unless they want the target to know. Being obvious is an intimidation tactic.
Civilised society doesn't work like that.
This.
When someone violates Constitutional Rights in America, two things happen: First, evidence that comes from that violation is inadmissible in court. Second, the person whose rights have been violated can sue the pants off the government.
It is more complicated because of a massive fraud on the part of the prosecution to pretend that the information is not based on that violation.
It is also more complicated because juries, as a whole, care less about the government having violated your constitutional rights when you are a criminal.
It is also more complicated because when they get caught doing something bad enough, cops usually offer a deal where you won't sue and they won't prosecute.
That being said, the fact that they're reading his correspondence with his defense team and then interrogating him about it is a big no-no. It definitely serves as a good basis to appeal the conviction.
Which was the point of the comment you were claiming no to...
When you cant win, ad hominem.
You are right naturally, but look around we stopped living in a civilized society a long time ago. There is a clearly classes of people that are above the law.
I don't know what the answer is but every day it seems a little more hopeless as far as getting anything fixed working with in the system. So more an more I feel inclined towards settling for vengeance because there is little justice to be had.
Repeal the 17th Amendment TODAY! Also Please Read http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
Seriously, don't you think that a judge knows the law better than you, a random bloke posting on the internet?
It is one thing to know the letter of the law in verbatim, it is another thing to interpret and apply the letters of law into something that resemble a fair and just ruling.
"I have downloaded hundreds and hundreds of records, why would I care if somebody downloads ours?" Robin Pecknold
Doesn't matter. Would you prefer he randomly speculate as to which other phantom entities are involved? He knows one single fact, that the FBI has read his communications. From that, the only reasonable conclusion is that the FBI intercepted the comms. That is exactly the correct inference based on the given evidence. When some other evidence presents itself, he can modify his conclusion. Do you think if the roles were reversed the FBI wouldn't say that "Weev intercepted FBI communications."? Nope, that's exactly the conclusion they would draw until Weev provided evidence that he wasn't the one who intercepted the comms...
He published the email addresses of 114,000 people who just bought an iPad
So? Every company you do business with does the same. So moving on to the "real" crime...
by hacking into AT&T's computers
Changing a URL to point to a different ICC does not even remotely count as "hacking". It amounts to the same level of security as if GMail let you see another user's email simply by changing "&username=myname" to "&username=yourname" on the address bar.
So yeah, stupid law is stupid.
"eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" - that comes from Hammurabi. Commonly misunderstood. It is a legal reform of the existing justice system at the time. It is a limit on punishment to make it not exceed the original crime (and thereby lead to a spiral of ever increasing retribution). "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" is harsh, but is a lot better than "head for an eye, hand for a tooth"
None of them can see the clouds; The polished wings don't care.
Except, by most standards, he didn't "hack" anything. AT&T employed pathetic security which a teenager could defeat.
This has been covered quite a bit.
This is essentially accessing information available to anybody without permission. But to call it "hacking" is a complete joke.
Seriously, have you seen some court rulings? The ones which go to appeals or the Supreme court and get overturned?
I'm sorry, but my faith in the justice system to be able to competently discuss matters of technology is pretty low. My faith in government prosecutors evenly applying the law or not jurisdiction shopping and inflating the charges ... also pretty low.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
~ We can plug ANY security hole, no matter how gaping. ~
In fact, if you ask most Americans, If doing something against the law will "protect them from terrorism" they will gladly allow it. the PATRIOT ACT goes against most of the constitution yet most Americans love it and adore it.
And at the same time, they pretend that they want the US to be "the land of the free and the home of the brave," when in reality, they openly despise freedom.
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TFA implies only that the FBI had access to what was in the Attorney/client communiques, not who's surveillance arm gathered it.
Occam's razor. If the FBI had knowledge of the contents of his private letters, then the FBI did the surveilling.
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Well clearly since your views on how society works are entirely non-normative and outside the mainstream you aren't fit to walk among us. So maybe society should just bury you and move on?
Hammurabi was poking out eyes long before Noah was ever a figment of some writer's imagination.
Hammurabi is commonly associated with Nimrod, who was the son of Cush, grandson of Ham, and great-grandson of Noah.
Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...