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NSA Confirms It Has Been Searching US Citizens' Data Without a Warrant
Charliemopps writes: "According to Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, 'There have been queries, using U.S. person identifiers, of communications lawfully acquired to obtain foreign intelligence targeting non-U.S. persons reasonably believed to be located outside the United States. These queries were performed pursuant to minimization procedures approved by the Fisa court and consistent with the statute and the fourth amendment.' Basically, if you communicated with someone that is 'reasonably believed' to be a terrorist, you've lost constitutional protection against searches without a warrant, according to the NSA."
I'm guessing.... no.
Koans and fables for the software engineer
... what is their definition of a terrorist?
Not sure where that leaves "communist."
I am very small, utmostly microscopic.
I know April Fools is a thing, but this is just not funny!
wtf is up with the auto-play read-out loud BS? It's like being waterboarded with "beta" feature. Make it stop.
Bullshit
Today, I got out of bed without a warrant.
I brushed my teeth without a warrant, showered without a warrant, and got dressed without a warrant. I picked up my laptop bag without a warrant, having packed it last night without a warrant. Then I drove to work without a warrant. I proceeded to do my daily allotment of engineering, without a warrant for any of it. I read Slashdot without a warrant, and I'm posting this comment without a warrant, as well.
Of course, I don't need a warrant for any of this, and that's what the NSA thinks, too. In the opinion of the NSA, the information they gather isn't private, and they don't need a warrant to get it or use it.
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
Where in that sentence do you think that the searches had been approved by FISA?
I think you need a lesson in reading comprehension, it claims the process used in the search had been approved by FISA, not these specific searches, and that is a very different thing.
The usual smokescreen doubletalk of course, but no where do they claim the search targets had been approved.
So, why are you trusting people who have got no approval, let alone specific approval?
Ah, thats right - you only believe in your rights not generic rights - and they haven't come for you yet.
A member of the Tea Party or Occupy Wall Street movement, or anyone who objects to the corruption, wealth funneling, war mongering imperialism, or the militarization of the police.
In otherwords, "me"...
(and "you")
"These queries were performed pursuant to minimization procedures approved by the Fisa court and consistent with the statute and the fourth amendment.' Basically, if you communicated with someone that is 'reasonably believed' to be a terrorist, you've lost constitutional protection against searches without a warrant, according to the NSA." No, I'm sorry. I don't really give two-fucking shits what kind of weasel-dicked lawyer-speak garbage these scum fucks have come up with, continually honing, and that boils down to "Because FUCK YOU, that's why". What I want to know is: "When the justice system is no longer interested in enforcing the clear spirit and intent of the US Constitution, what are we as citizens supposed to do?" We have no representation in congress, clearly the police are not interested in protecting us and ensuring the government is bound by its own laws. The answer is coming down to bloody and violent conflict, or a one-thousand year police state that makes the feudal structure of 10th century Europe look like club-med.
That might be what the NSA says, but how could anyone believe them after everything else that has happened?
I don't get it? If the person is is 'reasonably believed' to be a terrorist, then the FISA court would rubber-stamp a warrant so quick it would make heads spin. So why not get the warrant?
And eventually we will snap. And when we do, it will be game over with this game of lies. Don't forget we are armed and own the keys to every base in this country. So, I advise you enjoy your moment in the sun, because soon, when you least expect it, SNAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha, I bet it got you for a moment... but don't worry, the NSA would never admit to any wrong doing. It's just making cotton candy unicorns full of happiness, and those databases were built to tell them what flavor you like the most.
So, they were legal searches approved by the FISA court.
Yeah, the masters of rubberstamping. Also, note how most things they approve of are unacceptably broad. The NSA shouldn't be able to collect the data *at all*.
You don't trust the people you gave trust to?
Never, at any point, have I ever gave them my trust.
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and reinstate the constitution. Problem solved.
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Either communications (phone, email, twitter, etc.) are private and protected by the Constitution...or they are not. It cannot be both ways. If they are protected by the constitution...and the government, through its agency, the NSA, refuses to uphold the constitution, then a constitutional crisis is upon us...and the way forward on that is bleak since the constitution has been the basis for the existence of the United States for the last 2+ centuries. Here, we have the government essentially saying that their needs entitle it to disregard the constitution that they are sworn to uphold. Probably the only way to really resolve this is to arrest and bring the responsible officials into court on charges of treason...and it's not clear who or what would do the arresting and prosecution.
It doesn't matter what James Clapper's beliefs are, because he's just one person and we shouldn't judge the entire NSA organization just on the beliefs of a single member.
If you have communicated with someone "believed" to be a terrorist:
Say your friendly Kebab dealer at the corner where your phoned in and ordered 2x Lamacun 1x Doener Kebab,
perhaps his brother is an "orthodox" muslim (now it misses the bitter taste of calling extremist such) is believed to be a terrorist, so is his brother (blood is thicker ..) and so your are for (a day or two or a month, hey don't reason with a machine ..)
So questions to be asked:
a.) under which conditions is someone believed to be a terrorist
b.) how deep is the search depth
c.) what is ment with "communicated" .. "hey you dropped this 5$US bill ... Ohh thank you" this is "communicating"
- ebay buyer/seller
- same chatroom (e.g. IRC)
- same kebab dealer
Like I didn't see this one coming. This shouldn't come as a revelation to anyone.
When you have the ability you use it, the more you use it the less defined the lines become.
"Basically, if you communicated with someone that is 'reasonably believed' to be a terrorist, you've lost constitutional protection against searches without a warrant"
Fair game. Really. And I speak here as the pacifist humanitarian that I am.
But how do you make distinction between a terrorist and a freedom figher whose people are trying to survive genonide under your friendly ("preferred") trading partners? Tibet (unique in every way; language, culture, ethnicity, script etc.)? Ukraine (unique and close to Europe)? Or perhaps just a member of some rural middle-eastern belief system from the 6th century?
What value system are you basing this "terrorist" label upon? Believing in freedom? Self-determination? Or something else? Saying unpleasant things about the militaristic occupying nation? (you'd disappear in China)
It's the 21st century so please make up your mind and finally make more than a pretend stand on this issue: who are the terrorists (who you may actually trade with) and who are the actual victims of terrorism (often state-sponsored)?
The whole democratic majority of the world (as long as it exists) has a last chance to decide what they consider acceptable, at a state level. Are your real opponents mere misguided goat herders or something state-sponsored and fundamentally game-changing?
Should invading one's peaceful neighbours be opposed, or rewarded with trade deals?
I gotta say, as a joke news posting, this one is in pretty poor taste. The NSA would never admit to this.
1) We only investigate people who we ‘reasonably believe’ to be a terrorist.
2) We don’t need a warrant when we ‘reasonably believe’ that person to be a terrorist.
3) Therefore, We don’t need a warrant to investigate anyone we want to!
And the NSA is under the Executive branch of the US Government - the President of the US.
Back in 2001 - 2008, there was a President that was grabbing more power away from Congress and from we the people under the reason of National Security and safety and 9-11.
Some of us had a problem with that. We were called "unAmerican", "Bipartisan" and "Liberal".
When we protested and said that, "Whoever is next in office will get those powers and they WILL expand on them - regardless of their party." we were accused of using the "slippery slope" logical fallacy.
Now, we have a President of another party. He has not done much to reduce the powers the previous Administration gained.
The next POTUS will use those powers further - regardless of party. People will use the vapid rhetoric of "well, we haven't had another terrorist attack since! So, he's doing something RIGHT!"
So, the next time someone accuses me or anyone for that matter of using the "slippery slope" logical "fallacy", I'm gonna shove this example up their ass.
It won't do any good.. Next election in '16 will be about the same bullshit issues - abortion, when life begins, too much taxes, and "national security.
Abortion: doesn't apply to me because if a loved one wants one - even if it's illegal here - we'll jump on a plane to somewhere where it is because I'm well to do - and that is how it was done way back when. Anti-abortion laws only affects the poor.
Taxes - I'm for that. I want to pay zero and have the middle class pay my way.
National security: I don't give a rat's ass because I'm stateless. My capital rules. You go ahead and send your sons and daughters to die and fight for oil....freedom. (Some asshole Thunderbird pilot on Reddit actually said that he was there to fight for the downtrodden and for freedom - never mentioning that we won't touch N. Korea. USAF - lead don't fly! )
See folks, we are all a bunch of peons. We got our cars, cable, internet, and an ability to rant on the Internet. (Irony intentional.)
We are thrown bones to shut us up - the social Conservatives are the easiest to shut up; but they do keep demanding more and they won't be happy until we are a theocracy like Iran.
I am done now because my disgust for all of you is starting to make me gag.
He's not merely a member - he's the one in charge.
HAHAHAHA!! The 6 degrees of separation. By this logic they can spy on the entire world because everyone knows someone who knows someone who kinda knows someone who . . .
Since when are rights granted by the constitution able to be revoked by the state again? Isn't that the point of the constitution?
I have lost my user name and password. Can you please look at the crap you have about me and email me my user name and password.
Oddly enough, I thought the same thing (great minds think alike) - however, there's little original thought, so we're most likely not alone in our mutual sentiments & speculations.
APK
P.S.=> Seriously - you're might probably be right, & yes/again: I was thinking it myself after I read the headline of the article here, & was going to post & saw yours, so replying in agreement...
... apk
Eich see what you did there.
You don't. You're not understand what they are doing. They don't care about terrorists. They think they have the right to go through all of our data, all of the time. The constitution and laws of this country are simply another obstacle in their way. They want to read your mail? Record your calls? They look at your metadata, find a link to something... Terrorists, drugs, whatever... viola, you're a target.
I know they searched that one guy because a friend of his friends moms friends brothers dads friends cousins gardeners step brothers friend was Muslim.
It was meant to be a not-so-veiled reference to Brandon Eich's defenders ...
Was it? I fail to see the connection - Eich did not publicly climb the soapbox and make ridiculous statements. He keeps his bigotry private.
In short, your position resolves to a claim that you have a Constitutional right to protected secret communications directly with terrorists of the bomb, shoot, and poison to kill masses of people variety. No doubt you will also be surprised to learn that the Founding Fathers would not have agreed with that.
Your very tired harangue about "terrorists" is bullshit and anyone with a brain knows this is the case.
What else have you got for us, you cunt ?
Nothing but more bullshit and we all know it.
What you know is jack, and it is clear that facts don't matter to some people such as you. Don't be a tedious weasel.
When that happens you get a new constitution which the shooters like and the rest of the population gets well and truly fucked over.
You don't get to keep the old one.
If you are "lucky" you get a Napoleon, less lucky and you get a Stalin - Washington got in because there was no need for a sea of blood to force the previous rulers to let go so is not an option no matter how lucky you are.
In the IRS, NSA, or elsewhere in the government.
Just as much as your position is to claim the NSA CIA FBI USA can do no wrong at the mere mention of the word terrorist, and that the founding fathers would have given up their freedoms for a little bit of safety from scary words.
Haven't FISA judges already gone on record saying they don't really get enough information from the government to provide meaningful oversight?
You're presuming that every foreigner the NSA wants information about is actually a terrorist, and all the information that's come to light declares that to be bullshit. The NSA would collect information about every single human being outside of the United States if it had the technical capability to do so. Like every bureaucracy ever invented, it's purpose has evolved to mainly justifying its own existence.
"if you communicated with someone that is 'reasonably believed' to be a terrorist, you've lost constitutional protection"
"Reasonably Believed" being defined by connected in ANY way with a "terrorist" group. Call a cousin in Canada that works as a janitor in a hockey rink that was once attended by someone who visited a extremist website once for a college thesis and you're fair game.
You are the company you keep! Don't hang out with known terrorist.
I wish they would use this same logic with immigration. If you don't live here, you need to get a visa or asked to leave. Lots of folks could then work.
Were you always this clueless?
But how do you make distinction between a terrorist and a freedom fighter
Both 'terrorists' - so all of your communications are subject to search and seizure if you "communicate" within 2-degrees of separation with any of them.
Heck, I've seriously begun to wonder if the Nigerian spammers aren't actually State-sponsored, to establish a 2-degree network of "communications" regarding "financing" that spans every Internet user. After all, the NSA cannot be expected to individually analyze every case, so they have to go by keyword matches and network analysis.
Mohammad received financial communications from Boseda and Richard received financial communications from Boseda, so Richard and Mohammad have reasonable suspicion of being in the same terrorist finance network and therefore all three of their communications are subject to search and seizure.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
After all, he was palling around with a known terrorist.
In fact, given the 6 degrees of separation factor, almost *every* American has an association with a terrorist, and even if not, the definition of terrorist can be widely expanded to make sure that you're an associate of a terrorist. Think about how many names are on that no-fly list...
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
I didn't think this was possible: APK admits HOSTS files aren't a panacea!
See my subject-line above (show us where I said they are)...
* :)
(Good luck - I never have)
In fact, I espouse "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" on the note of security... fact!
(See the link below (those guides are ALL by "yours truly"...)).
HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP:
http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...
APK
P.S.=> However, custom hosts files DO provide users of them more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity online - & I challenge ANYONE to disprove that, by validly technically disproving the 17 enumerated points on that note, extolled here -> http://start64.com/index.php/6...
... apk
1.) You're *trying* (vainly) to put words in my mouth I never stated & 2.) You've got some serious mental issues (that only tell me I've SO soundly thrashed you before on SOME tech topic, you can't handle it - & thus, you troll me like some sick mentalcase might)... & finally, the BEST part that ALWAYS makes you "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!:
3.) You can't meet the challenge put to you in my last post, which I'll just requote, verbatim, now:
However, custom hosts files DO provide users of them more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity online...
(... & I challenge ANYONE to disprove that, by validly technically disproving the 17 enumerated points on that note, extolled here -> http://start64.com/index.php/6... )
APK
P.S.=> Please take the advice given you already, & grow up...
... apk
If only the NSA would directly admit to its actions, rather than disguising the truth in a meaningless bundle of a paragraph...
APK, you're so predictable it becomes amusing to toy with you. Have you ever seen someone use a laser pointer to make a cat run around? You're the cat.
The only question is whether you will let this be the last word on the subject. Tough decision, man.
Actually, initially, the Tea Party knew fairly much what it wanted. Then it got smeared in the media, labeled racist, which allowed it to be co-opted by right-wing Republicans.
Initially...
- balanced budget, debt reduction
- end to the wars and imperialism
- end to corporate bailouts and welfare
- end to the war on drugs
- secure borders
- civil focused platform, that offered a broader tent (gays, blacks, etc were quite welcome in the early Tea Party and Ron Paul Revolution movements)
That was what the movement was initially talking about. Which scared the crud out of the embedded factions. And why they launched a demonization campaign against the early libertarian focused groups. Because they were becoming broad tent. Can you imagine the power of a political group that took the libertarian wing of the Republican party, and then brought in gays and blacks. Both the Democrat and Republican party faced the possibility of a new rival, one that was more anti-war, and anti-corporate welfare than the Democrats. And more libertarian and fiscally conscious than the Republicans.
Rest assured, they succeeded in preventing that from happening. Then when OWS began, they did the same demonization to them but marketed toward the right. They wanted to absolutely prevent the Tea Partiers and OWS from realizing how much common ground they have.
You've clearly got issues. Seek help.
You never could surmount this challenge troll http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
* :)
You're just too stupid, & undereducated to do so validly.
APK
P.S.=> Personally? I love it... thanks for being SO stupid & making ME look GOOD, & yourself, to be nothing more than a trolling fool...
>.. apk
This is the entire problem. The NSA are a law unto themselves. They operate beyond the law and beyond the constitution. They do what ever they want and we only find out about it when somebody "leaks" information. Then the same NSA can decide that that person is a terrorist and violate the rights of anybody who knows that person.
This is the definition of totalitarianism.
ApK: admit it. HOSTS files are not a panacea. They will do nothing to protect anyone from the NSA.
I like how my single replies can generate multiple apK response posts. I have a 3x multiplication factor score at this point. How high can it go?
PS. Say hi to your mom for me.
Here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... and you KNOW it, troll.
So, again:
Show us where I said hosts are a 'panacea' that 'cures all ills'?
I never once have stated that...
However - I will state that hosts add MORE speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity than any single browser addon BY FAR (that's certain & fact - one you can't dispute) & WITHOUT the added messagepassing slowdown weight in slower ring3/usermode by "layering on more" onto already SLOWER browsers there!
(vs. hosts operating in far FASTER ring 0/kernelmode via the more priveleged TCP/IP subsystem with over 45++ yrs. of optimization put into it).
APK
P.S.=> It's SO easy to show that, and to take you down, that it's NOT EVEN FUNNY, lol... .. apk
It's refreshing to hear him admit that there are limits to what can be accomplished with hosts files, and that protection against the NSA is not something that they can do.
No doubt it was hard for him to publicly state this, given his well known focus.
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
APK
P.S.=> Do you know how easy this is for me? You're a f'ing joke that vainly *tries* to go off topic, changing the subject, and still you RAN "Forrest" (see link above) Trying to put words in my mouth I never said? Please... you FAIL! apk
It's not some wild claim of APK's. Rather, it's simple: hosts files and the NSA, and more specifically, how hosts times don't protect against the NSA.
APK is afraid to discuss this topic more thoroughly than his tacit admissions that hosts files don't protect against the nsa and instead tries to change the subject by going off topic in his typical trolling reaction.
Everyone can see through your sock puppetry.
Your hosts files do nothing to protect against the nsa, and you tacitly admitted it. Don't backpedal on that now.
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
?
* :)
(Always a pleasure knockkng the chocolate out of ac troll cowards like you... it's SO easy to do!)
APK
P.S.=> I honestly @ times wonder: How the HELL does a worm like you LIVE with himself...? apk
Where'd apk say hosts can stop the NSA?
APK, I went ahead and paraphrased your quote for everyone else's convenience. I'm glad you stopped running from it.
See APK's admission:
Where'd apk say he could stop the NSA with hosts?
Apk, you know you cannot make the claim that your hosts file will stop the NSA. That would be a false claim and people would immediately expose such a lie.
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
APK
Right here:
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4974395&cid=46703161
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
Where'd I say hosts = a panacea? -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... + this (Where'd I say hosts can stop the NSA?) -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... Hmmm? Trying to put words in my mouth I never stated? Piss-Poor "troll tactic" that... nothing more.
APK
P.S.=> Better luck next time troll (I never said either one) You FAIL...
... apk
As I pointed out, you either agree with me that hosts files can do nothing to block the NSA, or instead you believe that they DO help against the NSA.
It's a binary choice. If you are asserting that they don't thwart the NSA then we are in agreement. Do you actually believe that hosts files help against the NSA?
Don't run from it. There's no shame in admitting there are limits to what you can accomplish with your hosts files. You don't believe they cure cancer, right? Why are you ashamed to admit they can't block the NSA?
See his reply to this:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4974395&cid=46717977
This is a binary proposition: he either believes hosts can block the NSA or he does not. It seems he is running from stating this explicitly for the record... despite him making multiple confirmations of the impotence of hosts files against the NSA already in this thread. It appears he is simply terrified of what this will mean for his reputation.
There is nothing to fear, apK! Just admit it. Stop running and using sockpuppet trolls.
Where'd I say hosts = a panacea & could stop the NSA? Show us!
APK
P.S.=> You're seriously mental... apk
Where'd I say hosts could stop the NSA? APK
Everyone: this is tacit confirmation from APK that hosts files do nothing to thwart the NSA. We can only wonder why he runs from giving explicit confirmation.
Does he have something to hide? Why won't he just say it?
Ultimately, the reader must decide how much this bizarre refusal to confirm what should be a simple fact affects the trustworthiness of aPk.
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
*:)
APK
See his reply to this:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4974395&cid=46725487
No amount of attempting to spin your denials will work, APK. The people know you are running.
Prove your accusations (you can't) -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
* :)
(IF you want to keep looking stupid? Fine by me!)
APK
P.S.=> Why don't you do something useful with your time, like I have here instead -> http://start64.com/index.php?o... which gives users of it added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity which YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DISPROVE (especially the 17 points enumerated in the download page link above - good luck: You'll NEED it (more like a miracle, since it can't be done))...
... apk
I am accusing ApK of running from actually confirming that his hosts file does nothing to block the NSA. This entire thread proves that accusation... just by reading it everyone can see the truth of this accusation.
APK: why is it so hard for you to admit your hosts file is impotent against the NSA? Why must you run from a simple confirmation? Why are you afraid?
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
APK
P.S.=> Of course, you ARE welcome to see what my APK Hosts File Engine CAN do for you in added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... (& YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME to disprove the 17 points enumerated there that extoll the virtues I speak of that custom hosts give their users)
... apk
APK refuses to be honest and confirm that his hosts file can do nothing to block the NSA! His hosts file has limits, as he clearly acknowledges... but he runs from the admission that his hosts file is impotent against the NSA!
Your pathetic attempts to change the subject will do you no good, ApK. Everyone can see through your shams and dissembling.
You changed it to hosts here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... RIGHT under my post here (which had nothing to DO with hosts).
I also never said hosts can stop the NSA - show me where I have.
Show me where I said hosts = a panacea too.
(HOWEVER - Hosts Files DO offer more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity though, & are a GOOD PART of added "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" for sure...).
You can't backup your bullshit, so... Eat your words!
APK
P.S.=> How do they taste, now that you have to eat them? Flavorful (with your foot in your mouth + the bitter taste of SELF-defeat to help wash them down too?? LMAO... you, fail!)
... apk
This is the closest that APK has come to admitting the truth that is so painful for him:
"I also never said hosts can stop the NSA"
APK, you admit that there are limits to hosts files (apk: "hosts files are not a panacea!"). It's so simple to take one step further and admit that hosts files cannot block the NSA, yet you run from it.
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... apk never said hosts are a panacea or that they could stop the NSA. Prove otherwise. Show us where he said either thing you say he said (lies on your end troll).
APK refuses to explicitly admit that his hosts files have limitations, but yet APK has tacitly confirmed APK hosts files are impotent against the NSA!
However, he is terrified of actually admitting this limitation of his hosts file explicitly. Therefore, he runs and hides behind his sockpuppets and tries to change the subject yet again.
Everyone knows the truth, APK: your hosts files do nothing against the NSA. You even agreed with me here:
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4974395&cid=46712595
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
Hmmm?
(You claim I attempted to "change the topic" but YOU are the one doing so.... & where did I ever ONCE claim hosts are a panacea, OR that they could stop the NSA" )
Answer that.
APK
P.S.=> You won't: I've totally burnt you at every turn, & now you're just making me laugh... apk
This is probably the closest to honesty about the limitations of hosts files we are going to be able to get from APK...
APK: "where did I ever ONCE claim hosts are a panacea, OR that they could stop the NSA"
Was it a relief to admit this, APK?
Why're YOU running from this, troll -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
Hmmm?
Is it since it will make you "eat your words" on changing the subject here ->
"Your pathetic attempts to change the subject will do you no good, ApK. Everyone can see through your shams and dissembling." - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 13, 2014 @02:03AM (#46738329) FROM -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
Hmmm?? PROJECTING YOUR OWN TROLL "modus operandi" going OFF TOPIC? Absolutely... lol!
Clue & TRUTH: I NEVER BROUGHT UP HOSTS FILES HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE - YOU DID... off-topic trolling!
APK
P.S.=> You? FAIL... hugely!
... apkquote
How predictable. APK, why do you persist in your deceit? Why do you run from the simple fact that your hosts file can do nothing against the NSA?
You did choose a good quote from me, though: "Your pathetic attempts to change the subject will do you no good, ApK. Everyone can see through your shams and dissembling."
It is so true! Everyone can see how you have run from admitting the truth about the impotence of your hosts file against the NSA. Why are you afraid of telling the truth, APK?
APK, everyone can see through your deceit. You know that your hosts file does nothing to thwart the NSA, yet you persist in refusing to explicitly acknowledge this to the public.
Why do you run from admitting the truth about the impotence of your hosts file against the NSA? Why do you continue to promulgate your deceit?
More simply, why can't you just tell the truth about how your hosts file cannot block the NSA?
All he has left to do is to run. And run he does.
Will you ever tell the truth, APK?
Trying to put words in his mouth he never said http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
APK, this isn't about putting words in your mouth... this is about getting you to admit the truth.
Admit to the world what we already know: that your hosts file is impotent against the NSA.
We have all seen you run in fear, but maybe you will surprise us and be honest for once.
Who tried changing it? Not apk http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
APK, everyone can tell you are dishonestly using sockpuppets again.
Are you so immature and fearful that you cannot tell the truth? Since you will not tell the truth about your hosts files impotence against the NSA, what conclusions should everyone draw about the integrity of your hosts file? If you are lying about this, what kind of despicable modifications might you have you made to your hosts file in order to hijack the overly trusting users who load your software?
Tell the truth about your hosts file limitations against the NSA. Maybe you will have a chance to redeem your reputation in the eyes of the public.
apk always posts ac. there's no ac sockpuppets. they're all ac, stupid. My subject line? See -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
As APK's sockpuppet claims: "apk always posts ac. there's no ac sockpuppets. they're all ac, stupid."
So, that's right... apk is now apparently claiming that referring to himself in third person in a different style is not sockpuppetry because it is AC. Perhaps he really believes this to be true. Could this be explained by APK being schizophrenic or having multiple personality disorder?
Okay, APK (or shall I call your "non sockpuppet" personality KPA?)... do you know the difference between truth and deceit? Do you understand that you should tell the truth? Can you tell us why you refuse to admit the truth about the inability of your hosts file to block the NSA?
Apk always posts ac. there's no ac sockpuppets. they're all ac, stupid. My subject line? See -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
APK/KPA, why do you persist in your deceit? Why do you run from telling the truth about how your hosts file does nothing against the NSA?
Stop running and tell the truth, if you even know what that means anymore. Maybe you can redeem your reputation in the eyes of the public if you do.
You're a troll running from this and my subject http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
Why are you running from admitting the truth, APK/KPA? You are a coward. Or are you delusional and actually believe that your APK hosts file can block the NSA?
Stop the lies. Tell the truth. Admit that your hosts file can do nothing to thwart the NSA. Your attempts to try to change the subject are pathetic.