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60 Minutes Dubbed Engines Noise Over Tesla Model S
cartechboy (2660665) writes "Did you watch the Tesla 60 Minutes segment the other night? If you did, you might have ended up on the floor rolling around laughing like I did. Since when does the Tesla Model S electric car make audible engine noises? Or downshift? Turns out, 60 Minutes dubbed engine noises and a downshift over the Model S running footage. The show claims it was an editing error. Call it what you want, it was absolutely hilarious. A little note to TV producers assigned to cover Tesla Motors in the future: Electric cars don't upshift or downshift."
At least they didn't fraudulently blow it up!
At least they didn't fraudulently claim the battery went flat during a test run.
There is no way that was an editing error. Someone had to purposefully add those noises to the footage. Please.
I guess you could say they gave it some axle foley.
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
I too noticed it and thought it was odd but rationalized it as being the sound of the vehicle carrying the video camera.
Smooth, instant acceleration no matter what your current speed. It's mind blowing when you first experience it.
I don't get how people can "miss" the sound of a regular engine, and having to shift. A good computer analogy would be "missing" having to manually input bootstrap code to get your machine going. Sure, it can be a nice bit of nostalgia, but it's a requirement of antiquated technology that no longer applies in the case of the Model S.
I so wish I could afford that car. I hope they can get the price of its successor down into the 30s; I will jump on that SO quick.
The editors who put in car-related audio on all manner of film media are morons, plain and simple.
I mean, these are the same guys that pipe in 'tires screeching on pavement' sounds every time the Duke boys take off, even when they're on gravel or dirt.
Frankly, I'd be far more surprised if they didn't add a bunch of fake engine noises.
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This, combined with something I saw in a parking lot yesterday make me think again about electric cars.
I saw a guy text-walking in a parking lot, he nearly hit by a prius which was in low speed electric mode. (yeah that is a user problem, but the guy wouldn't have walked in front of a glass-packed V8 mustang.)
People expect cars to make noise. Television is a decent example since it just happened, but in real life, cars make noise, which warns peds, motorcycles, bicyclists, and other cars that there is 2 tons of metal, plastic, and rubber about to hit them.
Nearly silent, high performance cars remove one of the basest instinct protections we have against current squids driving fast cars (they are loud, so you know they are doing something stupid even before you see them). I imagine some detroit dinosaur who owns a few dozen politicians could latch on to this and require electrics to make some kind of noise.. which will be pretty funny once the hacker/teenager crowd starts modding them.
Mine will probably play Yakkety Sax until I get a DMCA takedown notice,
It's not only for Tesla, and not just on videos either. :)
Engines are getting more efficient and quieter every year, and cars are better insulated as well. Customers are disappointed when they spend big bucks on a car only to find out it doesn't sound like a big old sport car.
The solution? Manufacturers actually add speakers next to the engine, exhaust and inside the car.
You sometimes get V8 sound out of a V6 car
http://www.caranddriver.com/fe...
Cars with CVT don't shift either.
It is 38.6% more likely that puppies will wander into the street in front of a quiet car.
If it is a Tesla car they could get wedged under the car where they will burst into flames from leaky batteries.
It is obvious that 60mins was playing this car noise to warn the puppies to get off the road while they were filming for the report.
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I thought I missed the sound of a 28.8k modem establishing a connection, until I set it as my ringtone.
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They have lost all credibility in the last year. They are no longer a news outlet but the paid shills of their network an their sponsors.
No sigs in BETA. Beta SUCKS.
some hybrids pump engine noise through speakers to appease the driver
They do that for safety too, not just to appease the driver. Domino's Pizza in the Netherlands made a marketing coup with this a few years ago when they switched to electric delivery scooters. They added audio of a guy going "VROOoooooommmmmm! Lecker-lecker-lecker... Vrrrooooommmm!" (Apparently, "lecker" means "yummy" in Dutch.)
invent some better ways to store more energy
There have been MANY teams working on this, for several years, with lots of VC/R&D, and several new products are going to hit the market it the next couple of years: liquid metal batteries, sodium ion batteries, compressed air storage, sodium air batteries, artificial leaf, another artificial leaf, flywheels, super-capacitors, etc... Most of these are intended for grid-level storage, but a few are quite suitable for transportation as well. In particular, sodium-air batteries have the advantage of light weight, since one of their reactants (air) is available on the fly. And the two "artificial leaf" technologies can be used to create fuel from sunlight.
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Actually there are valid reasons for an electric vehicle to shift gears - just because many electric vehicles only have one gear doesn't mean there aren't valid reasons for having multiple gear ratios.
Although in the case of EVs, shifting tends to be more speed-dependent than load-dependent. While EV motors are typically constant-power, there ARE torque limits at low speeds due to current limits. Although this usually means that an EV that has more than one gear ratio needs far fewer than an internal combustion vehicle. (as in, even two gear ratios is usually enough in the rare cases where only one gear ratio wasn't.)
See Charles Guan's burnoutchibi project as one example.
retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
-ubuntu others as you would have others ubuntu you.
People will think time's running backwards.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
The object of the carpool lane is to reduce greenhouse gas emission per capita.
The object of a carpool lane is to reduce traffic congestion. Reducing tailpipe emissions is a second order benefit.
I'm an audio engineer. I've done several short films, nominated for a few awards
Nice to meet you and congratulations.
Frankly, my dear, nobody gives a damn about what a particular car sounds like in a particular situation except for us nerds.
Probably true which brings up the question why bother going to the trouble of adding the wrong sound? To bring things back on topic, this isn't a fictional movie like star wars where the fact that there is no sound in space isn't important. This is a news piece or at least purports to be one. Accuracy matters in non-fiction. If you can't record what it does accurately then don't record the audio.
Unless the media piece is explicitly focused on how something sounds, having realistic audio is actually distracting to the audience,
Have you actually heard a Telsa in action? It barely makes any noise. Exactly how is no noise going to be distracting? If the noise doesn't matter and the vehicle doesn't make any worth recording then strip it out altogether and talk. As you pointed out, nobody cares exactly what sound it makes but that doesn't mean the audio engineer needs to insert sounds that are plainly wrong to anyone with operating brain cells. Sure, some people might not notice but that doesn't make it the right thing to do.
The Tesla S isn't a luxury sedan, please don't compare it to a Mercedes S-class, which is about the same price when both are nicely equipped.
Having sat in both (I used to own a Mercedes) I can assure you that the Tesla S most definitely IS a luxury sedan. There is nothing in Mercedes lineup under $100K that I think is more fitting of the definition.
The supercharger network doesn't make up for the fact that you can refuel that S-class in 5 minutes and drive it 500 miles on that 5 minute "charge".
And yet I'd trade an S-Class for a Tesla in a heartbeat anyway.
realized it was electric. What sound effect would they use instead? Starship Enterprise sounds or something? It would probably rise to cult classic status.
Actually, that would be fun. Slashdot should have a competition to decide what an electric car on television should sound like.