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NYC Considers Google Glass For Restaurant Inspections

New submitter TchrBabe writes: "NYC is now considering equipping its Health Department inspectors with Google Glass to provide a record of restaurant inspections. 'A yearlong pilot program would require 10 percent of the 160 health inspectors to wear video devices — including, possibly, the much-maligned Google goggles — under legislation to be proposed Thursday. "I think it would limit the abuses on both sides of the table, and it would allow for a more objective view by the judge on the violations that have been cited," said bill sponsor Vincent Ignizio.'"

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  1. Added benefit by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wear google glass and get excellent service ....

    1. Re:Added benefit by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

      As long as they don't enter any French McDonald's, they'll be fine.

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    2. Re:Added benefit by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My favorite story about the differences in hygiene standards in Europe compared to America.

      Health inspectors walk into a famous French restaurant in NYC. 3 Michelin stars, celebrity chef. Cat crosses path.

      Inspectors: Sir, do you realize there's a cat in your restaurant? This is not allowed
      Owner: Of course there's a cat in the restaurant, if I can't have him here how would you suggest I handle the rats?

      Inspectors close restaurant. Exeunt

      The funny thing is, living in Europe, and then living in Asia I can tell you most of the world does not have the same very very high standards of the US. And, surprisingly, people do not die from eating raw milk products, or from eating cheeses and meats that have been allowed to sit out in the heat all day, or from any of the many other sins an American health inspector will make you repent for.

    3. Re:Added benefit by biodata · · Score: 2

      The funny thing to me is the idea that having a cat in a restaurant is somehow unhealthy. Oh Noes! An Animal! Forget the fact that all the people cooking, cleaning and eating in the place are also animals, and are much more likely to infect you.

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    4. Re:Added benefit by operagost · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Consumption" was an old name for tuberculosis. TB is normally transferred through the air, not food contamination.

      Raw milk is not generally available to poor urban people today, because farms are no longer near cities. It's mostly consumed in rural or suburban areas, near the source farms. There is no need to ban raw milk with the incredibly small risks associated, compared to the carcinogens in city water, for example. So banning raw milk is essentially an attack on poor and middle class rural people, which is fashionable today.

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    5. Re:Added benefit by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Dyssentry usually isn't fatal. Usually.

      According to WHO, about 760,000 children die every year from diarrhea caused by food or water borne pathogens. In light of that, I think it is silly to say that sanitation and health inspections are unnecessary.

    6. Re:Added benefit by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 2

      "Consumption" was an old name for tuberculosis. TB is normally transferred through the air, not food contamination.

      Raw milk is not generally available to poor urban people today, because farms are no longer near cities. It's mostly consumed in rural or suburban areas, near the source farms. There is no need to ban raw milk with the incredibly small risks associated, compared to the carcinogens in city water, for example. So banning raw milk is essentially an attack on poor and middle class rural people, which is fashionable today.

      You only named one risk to raw milk, not the many that exist. Remember, it takes only one sick cow out of a hundred to pass on harmful bacteria. Grass fed cows do not have some magical quality that works as an antibiotic in milk. City water is in fact safer because it is subjected to a similar treatment as pasteurization (Chlorination, Ozone etc). I am not aware of any "carcinogens in city water" or their relative rate of harm compared to unpasteurized milk, so I suspect that is just conjecture.

      An example of the bacteria that can be found in cows milk: Brucella, Camplyobacter, Listeria, Mycobacterium bovis, Salmonella and shiga toxin producing E. coli., parasites such as Giardia and viruses such as the norovirus.

      For more reading:
      http://skeptoid.com/blog/2011/...

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    7. Re:Added benefit by Enigma2175 · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Consumption" was an old name for tuberculosis. TB is normally transferred through the air, not food contamination.

      From the CDC:

      "Before the invention and acceptance of pasteurization, raw milk was a common source of the bacteria that cause tuberculosis, ..."

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  2. It's a great idea. by dclozier · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The best way to keep inspectors from looking the other way for cash under the table is to be able to see when they're looking the other way. This also protects the restaurant owners too since the inspector can't threaten them over something imaginary because it will have to be on the video recording to back up their statements.

  3. Much maligned Google goggles by sunderland56 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "the much-maligned Google goggles"

    They aren't maligned as a working tool; they're maligned as a geek toy.

    Wearing a welding helmet while welding? OK. Wearing a welding helmet to the local bar? Expect some ridicule.

  4. The system in NYC is so worthless anyway... by Bourdain · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...as someone who has scoured and mined the NYC health department data (not to mention the review / grade pending period making the data even more worthless; i.e., most restaurants receive a hidden "C" at which point they display a "Grade Pending" sign then have a month to get their "A" at their reinspection and then most likely go back to their "C" ways --> to all those statisticians out there, which rating is the real one? the first one when they weren't expecting it or the one where they had a few weeks notice?

    My hope and wish is that the letter grades determined by the score would be meaningfully correlated to the risk of food poisoning in the restaurant however there is little relationship between those things and that restaurants wouldn't have a chance to get a reinspection which clearly defeats the purpose of the test in the eyes of anyone with even the most minimal statistical/scientific education.

    Instead of using google glass, the health department should reevaluate their methods of inspection and reinspection grading policy where part of their inspection relates to testing actual prepared food instead of seeing if a mouse or roach might have been on the floor (oftentimes they can just scurry in from the sidewalk and have zero impact on the food)

    1. Re:The system in NYC is so worthless anyway... by alen · · Score: 2

      and almost every A grade has 10 points of violations for nonsense like certificates not being displayed in the open or something similar. take those away from a C and you get a B which is mostly stuff like food not being kept at a warm or cold enough temperature because in some cases the food being served is not supposed to be overheated or over chilled.

  5. Re:Watcher watching by Travis+Mansbridge · · Score: 2

    Everyone seems to be operating under the impression that Glass can record continuously. As I've seen, it can't be doing much of anything for longer than a minute or two at a time without running the battery down, and recording video is exceptionally intensive, causing the device to become quite warm after a matter of seconds.

  6. Evidence they're looking at GG itself? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    NYC eyes Google Glass for restaurant inspections

    including, possibly, the much-maligned Google goggles

    So if the city wanted to use Google Glass

    I don't see any evidence that NYC is actually looking at Google Glass. For all the information in the article, they may have already discounted it. Perhaps they never even considered it.

    In other words, made-up shit.

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    1. Re:Evidence they're looking at GG itself? by Useless · · Score: 2

      Welcome to Dicedot. You'll get used to it.

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  7. Quality lowers from a government official. by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    Did you ever notice that Police Dashboard cams seem to glitch out between the time they do the stop, and during an escalation. Then seems to be working when a bruised suspect finally hits the cop.

    I expect the same thing...
    You see a video of the inspector. Talking to the owner who is wearing a nice gold watch. Well lets take a look at that refrigerator, the display get very pixally the sound wavers and is hard to hear, then it finally comes back on, with the inspector well it looks good then shakes the guys hand with a tan line, while the inspectors is wearing a gold watch.

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    1. Re:Quality lowers from a government official. by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Did you ever notice that Police Dashboard cams seem to glitch out between the time they do the stop, and during an escalation. Then seems to be working when a bruised suspect finally hits the cop.

      I expect the same thing...
      You see a video of the inspector. Talking to the owner who is wearing a nice gold watch. Well lets take a look at that refrigerator, the display get very pixally the sound wavers and is hard to hear, then it finally comes back on, with the inspector well it looks good then shakes the guys hand with a tan line, while the inspectors is wearing a gold watch.

      Actually, that doesn't happen as often as one might think and when it does, it goes against the police. One of the purposes of dash cams is to provide evidence that the officer did not beat the guy up.

    2. Re:Quality lowers from a government official. by bickerdyke · · Score: 2

      Actually, that doesn't happen as often as one might think and when it does, it goes against the police. One of the purposes of dash cams is to provide evidence that the officer did not beat the guy up.

      Except in L.A.?

      http://yro.slashdot.org/story/...

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  8. Should do building inspection too by TheCarp · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not in private homes, because I do think people deserve some amount of privacy in their home but, definitely for where the real corruption is: commercial buildings.

    My wife's previous employer owned the building that their office was in. They tried to get a permit to build a roof deck and were blatantly extorted by the Boston city building inspector. They refused to pay, he denied them the permit.

    Corruption is everywhere where people have power.

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  9. Buy a decent camera by cgfsd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Instead of spending $1500, why don't they buy a decent camera with a flash for 1/10 of the cost.
    Maybe throw in a tablet for $300 to help documentation.

    The Glass sucks at low light conditions and high contrast conditions found in coolers and kitchens.
    Using Glass sounds good, but common sense sounds even better.

  10. Re:cumulate filth by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 2

    Your immune system is sort of like a muscle. In order for it to be healthy and functioning properly you need to work it out. So, if you never introduce foreign bacteria that need to be killed, your immune system will weaken, and the likelihood that it will get bored and attack itself (also known as allergies) increase. This doesn't just include bacteria; societies where people are more likely to be exposed to parasites like worms tend to have a very low or zero incidence of gastrointestinal diseases like irritiable bowel syndrome, causing some to theorize that human beings need quite a bit of dirt in their diet. In fact, some vitamins (like B vitamins) can't be synthesized by humans but instead need to be ingested from bacteria in soil (e.g. dirt), or the flesh of animals that ate dirt.

    (My ex girlfriend was a PhD Microbiology and this is what she considered good dinner conversation (which will perhaps tell you why she is also my ex). I don't know any of the papers she read, but if you are in need of a citation, google is your friend)

  11. Re:cumulate filth by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually I think you're misinformed. How exactly does it follow that just because people die of dysentery, all hygienic practices in the US not done in other countries are aimed at preventing dysentery?

    Furthermore, as stated, European countries often don't have the same health regulations as the US. And, contrary to popular opinion, Europe is full of western countries.

    Again, Dysentery is mostly caused by amoebas, and a bacteria called shigella. Shigella is naturally found in humans and apes and you contract it by drinking water with human feces in it. (Which is why when you're in an asian or african country you shouldn't be drinking tap water).

    That's completely different then unpasteurized milk, or food that's been left out in the heat.

    Furthermore, if you google what I said you'll get all kinds of links on the first page. Like link 1:

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com...

  12. welding helmet in a bar? by oneiros27 · · Score: 2

    Wearing a welding helmet to the local bar? Expect some ridicule.

    What? Imagine the possibilities for pickup lines!

    "You're so hot, I have to wear ANSI Z87.1 compliant eye protection"

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