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Wi-Fi Problems Dog Apple-Samsung Trial
alphadogg (971356) writes "There's a new sign on the door to Courtroom 5 at the federal courthouse in San Jose, the home to the Apple v. Samsung battle that's playing out this month: 'Please turn off all cell phones.' For a trial that centers on smartphones and the technology they use, it's more than a little ironic. The entire case might not even be taking place if the market wasn't so big and important, but the constant need for connectivity of everyone is causing problems in the court, hence the new sign. The problems have centered on the system that displays the court reporter's real-time transcription onto monitors on the desks of Judge Lucy Koh, the presiding judge in the case, and the lawyers of Apple and Samsung. The system, it seems, is connected via Wi-Fi and that connection keeps failing."
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The system, it seems, is connected via Wi-Fi and that connection keeps failing.
So I suppose if that DOESN'T fix it, they'll remove the sign and allow active cellphones again? (Hmm, I thought metal objects mostly wouldn't be allowed in the building. Is that only Federal stuff?) That being said, I could certainly understand a judge not wanting to hear ringtones in their active courtroom.
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I listen to shows with captioning turned on for almost everything. I presume having this is the courtroom allows the judge to easily review testimony earlier in the trial? (Or are they listening to music on earbuds and only start to pay attention when the transcriptionist STARTS WRITING IN UPPER CASE?
Lastly, bring in a laptop and sit in the audience, and intercept or change the written record. "I didn't do it!" becomes "What's your problem, you slutty judge?" Or then again there's this guy...
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It's all part of the larger Apple strategy...
It's not an official Apple strategy until Samsung copies it. Zing. Fan the flames of fanboy rage. Wifi so serious?
Maybe I just don't understand what is really happening here, but shouldn't the wi-fi network for official court usage be secured so only those terminals are able to connect. The cell phones and stuff shouldn't be causing an issue, unless a bunch of people are trying to operate ad-hoc networks to do tethering with cellular data service.
I have a pair of wireless gaming headphones that use the same 2.4Ghz band as Wifi but not the same protocol. Some people have interference problems and have to change the channel for their AP.
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These days its the other way around. Samsung is the leader and Apple is following.
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Hate to tell you finger print scanner is NOT a new technology that apple would like to make its isheep believe.
This system should have never been designed to be used over a wireless network.
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Isn't the definition of irony that the situation is the opposite of what you would expect.
I would expect to be able to follow news events on my smartphone while sitting in a courtroom during a trial involving the two biggest players in the smartphone realm.
The fact that smartphones are causing traffic congestion isn't the ironic part.
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This is the solution. If you want a reliable connection, used wired Internet.
and IPv6.
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If I want a reliable connection in my house, I hard-wire. It is the only way I can control the physical layer of the network. Once I go wireless, I cede control of the physical layer to forces unknown.
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They should be using Bluetooth!
The reason they don't do this is because many court reports like to be within a certain distance of whomever is talking and many are surprising particular. For example, there is one in my local district that insists on being exactly four feet away and at a forty-five degree angle to whomever is speaking. Additionally, sometimes the real-time transcription programs take two people to operate: one to type in the words phonetically and one to change it to actual English if the computer's algorithm is a miss, which can be common in cases with highly technical words. Finally, there is probably multiple court reporters taking turns because it is very tiring to do for long periods of time because of the concentration required and each reporter would have their own stenotype.
Judge just says, "First to permanently fix it for us wins the case."
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If Apple and Samsung are going to dance this much they should build their own hall. And while they're at it Apple should ask Google to dance because that is what she really wants.
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Hate to tell you this but by your definition Samsung is not leading anything, as they are just doing things other companies (not even Apple) did long ago.
Everyone is iterating on older ideas, Samsung just likes to use Apple's iterations as a base and sometimes screws it up (see: fingerprint sensor). The documents from the trial prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt; Samsung looks at how Apple does something in great detail, then thinks of a few alternatives, then says "screw it, just do what Apple did".
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PocketPCs had them before the T42 laptop you linked to.
http://www.mobiletechreview.co...
http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow...
No difference, except "$PRIOR_ART, but with a cellular transceiver"
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I've had same issues when Apple items are on any mixed OS network, constant connectivity issues for all, always suspected the shiny red (white) devices as the culprit ,never could prove it. this pretty much cinches for me, apparently, their network stack is almost as "F" up as M$'s is....
Doesn't anyone follow the RFC's? Just leave sh*t alone! they gotta make it proprietary... guess to keep the investors happy...
The patent is probably a tad more specific than "fingerprint scanner". It's easy to imagine all sorts of novel developments in fingerprint scanning technology that would absolutely deserve to be patentable. Not saying that's the case here. I'm not familiar with the case, and don't particularly care. But I see this on Slashdot all the time -- people simplifying a patent down to a single phrase, and then declaring it to be obvious.
Why do they need real time transcription screens? Courts have operated for thousands of years without such devices just fine. They can always view the transcription later.
I would expect to be able to follow news events on my smartphone while sitting in a courtroom during a trial involving the two biggest players in the smartphone realm.
I would expect the spectators in the gallery to provide respect to the proceedings of the case and possibly listen to what the various parties in the room have to say, rather than have them dicking about on their smartphones and laptops during the entire case. It is already commonplace to ban the use of mobile phones in many courtrooms across the States.
I've had same issues when Apple items are on any mixed OS network
That's almost certainly the fault of using shitty access points. Anyone doing large-scale WiFi deployments is going to have to cope with lots of different client systems connecting all at once; there's no excuse for getting it wrong. Consumer grade stuff is definitely worse, but it only really hits home once there's a lot of devices loading everything up.
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Maybe the judge has her preferences set to Plain Text ;)
The obvious solution is to use a non-wifi wireless networking technology, of which there are several. The traffic is extremely low-bandwidth, so there's no reason why this shouldn't work. XBee, for example, which is available in non-2.4GHz flavors.
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finger print scanner that small that works 99% of the time?
Maybe not *new*, but Apple did get there first. The Atrix had just simply awful performance with their scanner.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
Exactly. I have WiFi in my house, but my 'smart' TV, 'smart' DVD player, computer & three IPTV boxes are all connected via wired Cat6.
Laptops have had them forever. 'First' is completely subjective in this case.
Good-bye
Well, the longer the court case goes along, the more constant publicity they can milk, so hey why don't we all start taking selfies of ourselves?
Yep I've got a blue wire under by desk, but she believes in wi-fi and just seeks my help and advice every time she looses connection, such is life.
Go well
That works nearly every single time? Every laptop finger print scanner I've used SUCKED. Accuracy was always terrible AND slow. Granted, I've had limited experience. On a Gateway laptop from 2008 and a Lenovo Thinkpad from 2010.
Touch ID was the first time I've used biometrics and it wasn't a total crapshoot if it'd work.
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