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CISPA 3.0: the Senate's New Bill As Bad As Ever
Daniel_Stuckey writes: "CISPA is back for a third time—it has lost the 'P,' but it's just as bad for civil liberties as ever. The Senate Intelligence Committee is considering a new cybersecurity bill that contains many of the provisions that civil liberties groups hated about the Cybersecurity Information Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA). Most notably, under the proposed bill companies could not be sued for incorrectly sharing too much customer information with the federal government, and broad law enforcement sharing could allow for the creation of backdoor wiretaps. The bill, called the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act of 2014, was written by Senate Intelligence Chair Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) and is currently circulating around the committee right now but has not yet been introduced. Right now, the bill is only a 'discussion draft,' and the committee is still looking to make revisions to the bill before it is officially introduced."
Will no one rid me of this turbulent senator?
So in a sense, it's 5 past 12.
Version 3.0, 4.0, infinity, it must be stopped!!!!
On May 5th, 9pm EST....let's all think of Diane Fienstein dying of a natural cause. And see if thoughts actually influence the universe.
They will simply continue to refluff the bill and push it on us again and again until it passes.
The US government is a corrupt oligarchy and needs to be torn down.
Oh, look, Feinstein is once again taking action to fuck over the populace while positioning herself (and friends) in the elite ruling class.
Isn't that shocking?
I think it would be nice if congress went on recess forever instead of returning to enact shit like this.
This is all due to your legal bribing you americans call "lobbying" that sh*t like this keep coming back.
Agree with them or not, the NRA knows what is needed to protect their favorite amendment.
We need to adopt similar structures and systems. To me, the EFF is a good rallying point, so I urge you to give all the support you can. I say, without irony, "Think of your children."
Prove anything by multiplying Huge Number times Tiny Number
I noticed you left out Saxby Chambliss.
Me, except they would build a wall around me, just like they did Jimmy Carter.
We only need a single law that can act like a wedge to start breaking open this cesspool we call government.
Start with a real whisteblower law.
Looked at the average internet user lately? Hell, let's go above average - looked at the average /. user lately? I don't know about the rest of you, but it'll damned near take an act of G*D to get me to put down the mouse (well, an act of G*D or needing to refill my bowl of chips so I can fill my bowel with chips).
Just sayin'. Give 'em bread and circuses, they'll pipe down quickly enough.
Not saying it's right, just that it's so.
Subject: CISPA version 3.0 - Also known as Feinstien's CISA
Right now, Senator Feinstien (D-CA) and Sen. Chambliss (R-GA) are currently circulating around a "discussion draft" of a bill called "Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act of 2014." This is just as bad for civil liberties as the original CISPA - the Cybersecurity Information Sharing and Protection Act - and I would appreciate it, assuming that this bill actually makes it out of comittee, if you were to vote against it. Please remember that every vote you make influences our civil rights, and give or denies political currency to those who wish to curtail them. This bill will attract national and international attention from those people, both allies and enemies of the United States, who wish to justify the suppression of the rights of others. If, by allowing this bill to pass, we create an environment where neither the Bill of Rights or the Constitution are respected in the digital realm, what is to prevent future politicians from pointing at CISA and saying "Oh.. look, these politicians did it here, so we can get away with doing worse here" in the physical realm. CISA basically brings the concepts of "guilt by association," "wiretaps everywhere," "constructive prosecution," and "ubiquitous permanent surveillance" from NSA's Big Data (Facebook, Twitter, etc) wish-list to actuality. The security, privacy, and rights of future generations of American, and likely the world's, citizens are in your hands. Please be as vigilant in defending our rights as you are with yours.
They must be feeling pretty secure if they don't need to pretend they're protecting us.
We should be grateful that republicans and democrats come together in our time of need to provide a *safe and secure society*.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Oh, sure, that'll work. Those nice senators are always SO ready to listen to people's phone calls. I'm sure they just sit around all day hoping that someone will call them and tell them what to do, because they just get so much pleasure out of serving the people. I mean, they just put so MUCH importance on the will of the people. Guess that's why their approval rating is so gosh-darn high.
Deja Moo: The distinct feeling that you've heard this bull before.
They'll never take the internet down. If Karl Marx famously said "Religion is the opiate of the masses", I'm afraid the internet makes heroin look like a nice cup of warm milk.
tl;dr
Just this:
<quote>Beginning with that materialistic world-view, you get no rational origin for morality or ethics</quote>
If we all treat each other nicely, everybody is happier for it. Therefore I must treat others nicely. I don't need to fear gods, cops, or parents.
For destroying your own cloud industry and giving companies in other countries a better market. I hear already commercials each morning on the radio when I drive to work about a local Dutch company (KPN) advertizing their cloud because no forieghn governments have access to it.
Cisco and Juniper will be pleased too when they find that more customers move to Huawei. At least the Chinese are not interested in "regime changes" in other countries.
The AC is correct in that you can't prove a negative. Meaning, you can't prove God exists, but can't prove he doesn't either. Faith and science are two entirely separate systems. Science through it's process describe the 'how' of the universe. Faith attempts to address the 'why'. And while I freely admit that my belief in God is based on faith, you still can't touch it with science =).
Life is not for the lazy.
Here we go again. As politics is not an additive art, one hopes that the they managed to lean no lessons last time. One also hopes that the recent revelations will help make it easier for the public to see that unfettered 'We need all the powers, so trust us' lacks credibility.
---- The above post was generated by the Turing Institute. Maybe.
So, to follow on from PRISM and the decision this week that all data stored in a cloud run by a US company is available to anyone in US law enforcement, Congress wants to complete the task of throwing the US IT industry under a bus? No US company can be sued for giving any information they have to the government without permission? What are they thinking of?
With that said, I'm obliged to point out that large corporations know which side their bread is buttered on. They play ball with governments because that's how they prosper. They - a vague and undefined group - may rely upon us for their income, but they need them (the governments of the world) to keep doing what they do. I've often pointed out that corporations aren't interested in protecting our (consumers) interests, only theirs. You can't even blame them for doing so - it's why they exist, and it's what perpetuates their existence.
Governments (IMHO) are a different matter. If there's ever going to be an opportunity to fix anything, it relies on (fat, internet-addicted, lazy) people like me to force our governments once more to behave like res publica, instead of viewing me and people like me as the opposition.
Moderation is about intelligence of post - not about personal agreement or disagreement.