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Cellular Compound May Increase Lifespan Without the Need For Strict Dieting

sciencehabit (1205606) writes "Every day, our cells manufacture small amounts of a molecule that, in higher doses, might be the key to leading a longer, healthier life. A team of researchers has found that this molecule boosts the lifespan of worms by more than 50%, raising the possibility that it will increase human longevity. Dietary supplements that contain the molecule and allegedly build muscle are already on the market. The study drops a barbell on their use, however, by suggesting that the molecule may actually thwart muscle growth."

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  1. which by faldore · · Score: 5, Interesting

    which dietary supplements contain the molecule?

  2. TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    -ketoglutarate (-KG), an intermediate in a metabolic cycle that helps a cell extract energy from food -how hard is it to put a little more information in the summary?

    oh right, this is about clickbait, not information...

    This is as bad as the local news 'Tune in tonight to find out which foods could kill you'.....

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    1. Re:TFA by esldude · · Score: 2

      Oh I hate how the local news and some entertainment newsy shows have become. I have timed a few and they literally on one or two stories spend more time telling you about the story coming up than they do the story itself. As in, "Bruce Springsteen talks to us about his latest tour, and you will be surprised what he says." They do this 15 second spot 6 times and then the actual footage only takes about 80 seconds. Facepalm time for me. The medical breakthroughs like the subject of this slashdot thread are pretty bad. They if not talk it up an equal amount of time come very close. Seems much simpler to just do the darned story using twice the time being perhaps more than twice as informative without the repetitive preamble. But of course the object is keeping everyone interested in 5 different stories waiting on the one they care about. Not being informative.

    2. Re:TFA by adolf · · Score: 3, Informative

      But of course the object is keeping everyone interested in 5 different stories waiting on the one they care about.

      No. The objective is to keep everyone interested so that they can observe the advertising.

      Depending on locale, there may be easy answers to this problem: NPR, PBS, BBC, CBC, [et cetera].

  3. Worms are a poor model by radtea · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Humans live insanely long lives for mammals: twice the average. The average mammal lives a billion heartbeats, humans live two billion. "Heartbeats" are a convenient normalization that accounts pretty well for differences in size, etc.

    There are fairly plausible evolutionary reasons for this. Grandparents are the primary mechanism by which culture is transmitted, so if your grandparents (or the grandparents of your close kin) lived a long time you would have a better chance of reproducing yourself, assuming cultural knowledge is useful in your local environment. And people with long-lived grandparents tend to be long-lived themselves, so the trait gets selected for.

    As such, animal models for human aging are extremely hard to come by, and ones as distant as worms are very unlikely to produce results that are generalizable to humans. This is why so many things cure cancer in rats but have no effect on humans: rats will get cancer from a dirty look, so their cancers tend to be relatively easy to knock over. Cancers that survive all the clever molecular tricks humans throw at them are much harder nuts to crack.

    We don't even know if calorie restriction works in humans (not enough people have been starving themselves for long enough to tell) so this article is way, way out on a speculative limb. Good science, I'm sure, but the hook should be "Scientists learn something about metabolic control pathways" and not "You may live forever!"

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    1. Re:Worms are a poor model by kamapuaa · · Score: 2

      This would be an extraordinarily easy thing to data mine. The fact that no correlation has been found (even though people know other things about the children of older women, eg they are more likely to suffer from a number of conditions) leads me to believe there's no correlation.

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    2. Re:Worms are a poor model by seven+of+five · · Score: 2

      We don't even know if calorie restriction works in humans (not enough people have been starving themselves for long enough to tell)

      With billions of people and many, many different kinds of diet, you'd think there'd be more than enough data to validate or falsify CR for humans. For example, prisoners fed near-starvation diets have not been observed to live an extra 50 years.

    3. Re:Worms are a poor model by Calavar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Nematodes and certain flatworms that have their gonads removed can live for twice the normal lifespan. Do eunuchs live to be 150 years old? No? Then I don't think aging studies in worms translate very well to humans. This paper is an interesting bit of insight into cellular metabolic processes, but the main factors that drive aging (metabolism, sex hormones) in worms seem to be only secondary factors in human aging. TFS's claim that this might translate to humans in a tangible way is overblown. It's just another piece of a puzzle that has millions of parts.

    4. Re:Worms are a poor model by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      The fact that life expectancy has, by some accounts, doubled in less than 150 years makes me doubt that we're seeing evolution in action in this case.

      The advancement of medical science might have something to do with it...

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  4. A slightly easier way to diet to a longer life by erice · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From TFA:

    By studying the mitochondria from cow heart cells, the researchers found that -KG blocks ATP synthase, thus turning down the cell’s metabolism.

    Funny. You know what happens when you turn a cell's metabolism? It burns few calories. If you don't reduce calorie intake you get fat and suffer from a variety of obesity related illness that might kill you earlier than if you had not started taking the medication.

    So in exchange for a possibly longer life you get to eat little and do little. Surprise, surprise! That is just like Calorie Restriction, albeit without the consistency requirement. That means you might actually achieve some benefit for the sacrifice rather than making the sacrifice, not getting it quite right, and getting no benefit.

    Still, this doesn't sound like the fountain of youth. More like a prolonged living death.

    1. Re:A slightly easier way to diet to a longer life by mythosaz · · Score: 4, Informative

      Perfect health has always been the slowest possible way to die.

  5. Unintended consequences by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Funny

    People who are eating this dietary supplement find all kinds of worms living in their guts living 50% longer.

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  6. Re:Riiight by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 2

    nature doesn't want anything.

    Yes it does. Plastic.

  7. Re:Riiight by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't anthropomorphise nature, he hates that.

  8. Worms are a poor model by Eris13 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not so. Nematodes are used because they have a very fast life cycle and you can study multiple generations. Perfect for mitochondrial studies such as this and mitochondria are pretty much mitochondria no matter the species.

    The summary is bad because its a c&p of TOA summary which seems to be just a pulp piece on various ageing research topics. That's not what the original paper was about. The original paper in Nature was kinda cool in itself. Simple summary - Nematodes lasted 70% longer when fed a ton of ÃZ±-KG. Some new areas to be studied, but nothing much to see here.

  9. The Old Ways are the Good Ways by PvtVoid · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll stick with the blood of the young, thank you very much.

  10. Re:Oh no! by YoungManKlaus · · Score: 2

    the problem is rather that people live way too long already to keep the current pension system running. So living longer also means you have to work longer (asuming you get to be 150, at least until 110).

  11. Alpha ketoglutarate is produced in copious... by The+Real+Dr+John · · Score: 2

    quantities in every cell in your body. It is one of the tricarboxylic acid cycle (Kreb's cycle) intermediates produced from either the amino acid glutamate, or from isocitrate. It is not a limiting molecule in the Kreb's cycle, and giving it to humans will not have any effect on human longevity. As noted already, many bodybuilders take it every day because they think it will give them more energy. Worms and humans do not have similar life cycles. Many things that don't affect the longevity of humans increase the lifespan of worms. The research into making geriatric worms is really a waste of time and money.

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  12. Re:Leto by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

    Well, most slashdotters look kinda like Jabba already...

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