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Swedish Fare Dodgers Organize Against Transportation Authorities

An anonymous reader writes "Every transit network has its fare beaters, the riders who view payment as either optional or prohibitively expensive. Many cities, most notably New York, view turnstile-jumpers as a top policing priority, reasoning that scofflaws might graduate to more serious crimes if left alone. But in Stockholm, the offenders seem to have defeated the system. From the article: 'For over a decade, Mr. Tengblad has belonged to a group known as Planka.nu (rough translation: “free-ride.now”), an organization with only two prerequisites for admission: Members must pay a monthly fee of about $15 and, as part of a continuous demonstration against the fare, promise to evade payment every time they ride. If travelers keep their side of the agreement, the group will cover any of the roughly $180 fines that might result. (An unlimited ride pass for 30 days costs about $120.)'"

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  1. Insurance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's just an insurance scheme. With heavier penalties, it would not work.

    1. Re:Insurance by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      With heavier penalties, it would not work.

      If heavier penalties fixed anything, nobody in the USA would do drugs or drive drunk.

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    2. Re:Insurance by Mashiki · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Considering the low level that's required to "blow over" for the last 10+ years? Pretty sure we've got a problem, considering two off the shelf beers will put you over the legal limit in most places, or a run-of-the-mill mixed drink.

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    3. Re:Insurance by Mitchell314 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just don't drink and drive. It's not rocket science.

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  2. In the US the people running the organization by mark_reh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    would be charged with criminal conspiracy.

    1. Re:In the US the people running the organization by mark_reh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Political protest is not illegal in the US. However, breaking laws as a form of political protest (or as a means of generating income, or whatever other purpose you can think of for breaking laws) is illegal.

    2. Re:In the US the people running the organization by _Shad0w_ · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Chapter 23 of the Swedish Penal Code is titled "On Attempt, Preparation, Conspiracy and Complicity".

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  3. Public transit by rossdee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or the Transit Authority can lower the monthly cost for a full time rider to $14.99, and get the government to covere the difference from tax revenue. It is a socialist country you know.
    Just increase the tax on petrol (or whatever is Swedish for gasoline)

    1. Re: Public transit by Strider- · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So people who drive cars, and therefore use public transportation less or not at all, should pay more so that people who do use the system pay less?

      Well, the drivers get the very real benefit of fewer vehicles on the roads. Even if we ignore Stockholm's (very good) subway system, a bus carrying 40 passengers probably means 15+ cars that are not on the road.

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  4. In other parts of the world... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is known as organized crime.

  5. Not heroes by JavaBear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These people are parasites, and leeches, whose evasion is helping to drive UP the cost for everybody else.
    Public transportation is en expensive service, mostly subsidized through taxes, these hypocritical parasites help make it that much more expensive for everybody else.

    I hope the Swedish authorities take an idea that was floated when the same was about to happen in Denmark.

    The fines the "organization" pay, are to be treated as taxable income.

  6. In the US the people running the organization by Dereck1701 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because the US "justice" system is such a shining example for the world. Threatening college students with decades of prison for "stealing" public research papers. Approving no-knock warrants resulting in hundreds if not thousands of innocent deaths. Militarization of police forces and the use of SWAT teams for even the most benign crimes. Crushing people pirating a few songs/movies with hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. Yes, the rest of the world would do well to emulate us.

  7. Re:hike up the fines by Nemyst · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nah, that'd also punish people who legitimately forgot their ticket or something along those lines. The much better idea is to increase repeat offender fines. If the first fine's only like $50, but the fifth is more like $500, those fare dodgers would very quickly go broke while normal people wouldn't be affected.

  8. Re:Hop the strass by dreamchaser · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Literally meaning, I ain't got no money. You may know the concept better as, open source.

    Weak troll is weak. People who write OSS are willingly giving the product of their efforts away for free. That's got nothing to do with scofflaws who deliberately steal a service that they are not paying for.

  9. Re:Hop the strass by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Those services are funded by tax payer money

    Those services are partially funded by tax payer money

    There, I fixed that for you.

  10. Re:You can't have services without paying for them by Zironic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's hard to describe with words how deeply the core principles of the Swedish state would be violated by your proposal. You are essentially proposing breaking down the entire system of government.

    SL (The owner of the metro) is a private corporation that is owned by the local county. Having a private company employ police in the capacity of policemen is unthinkable, it can simply not happen, ever. It violates every principle about division of power and oversight of power.

    Yes, the Chief of Police has the authority to send all his police down in the metro to catch people dodging fares if he wanted to. But what sort of perverse mind control would you use on him to make him do such a thing and how many seconds do you think he would remain chief of police if he did so? Catching people dodging fares is not part of his mandate and by ordering the policemen to do so, he'd make them unable to actually prevent crime. That sort of thing would force the oversight board to remove him on the spot.

  11. Re:Thiefs think others should pay by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hope you do realize that when a Swede labels someone as a mere "leftist", the "leftist" individual in question would probably scare the shit out of an average American?

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