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AT&T Buying DirecTV for $48.5 Billion

AT&T is acquiring satellite TV provider DirecTV in a deal worth $48.5 billion. This will bring 20 million more U.S. television subscribers under AT&T's roof, making it the second biggest TV provider, behind Comcast. The deal is subject to regulatory approval, and to help that along, AT&T says it will sell its 8% stake in America Movil, which is a competitor to DirecTV in some areas. "By acquiring the country’s biggest satellite television operator, AT&T will help bolster its competitive position against Comcast. Though pay television is considered a mature market whose subscriber growth has slowed dramatically in recent years, the business nonetheless generates billions of dollars in cash. ... Part of the attraction may be DirecTV’s ample cash flow. While its business has shown little growth in recent years, it generated about $8 billion in earnings last year. Much of that will go toward future investments in growth, AT&T said, including bidding at least $9 billion for wireless network capacity that the government plans to auction off soon. By gaining satellite TV, AT&T may also be able to free up capacity on its existing broadband network."

173 comments

  1. This has to be a troll post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    AT&T can't be allowed to get any bigger than it is now. They had to break it up once already.

    1. Re:This has to be a troll post by symbolset · · Score: 3, Interesting

      AT&T charges their broadband customers $30/month++ to opt out of traffic monitoring for ad targeting.

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    2. Re:This has to be a troll post by hackus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Possibly the worst news since the TimeWarner merger crapola.

      You think your DirectTV PVR can't download your movies now?

      Wait till they start using the CRUD that is AT&T's network.

      Absolutely unacceptable.

      The reason why they are doing the acquisition is because Uverse sucks to HIGH HEAVEN. It is even worse than DirectTV, if you can imagine that.

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    3. Re:This has to be a troll post by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

      AT&T can't be allowed to get any bigger than it is now. They had to break it up once already.

      The AT&T broken up in 1983 was a different company. The current company called AT&T used to be Southwestern Bell. It acquired the rights to the name "AT&T" in 2005.

       

    4. Re:This has to be a troll post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AT&T acquiring DirecTV is worse than sending unlimited supplies of gasoline to hell.
      I cut cable and Sat TV a few years ago and will never go back.
      What I gained in return is having more money left over each month with no TV bill and rediscovered how fantastic books really are.

    5. Re:This has to be a troll post by ArhcAngel · · Score: 5, Informative

      SBC (formerly known as Southwestern Bell Corporation) acquired the rights by buying the original AT&T in 2005 for 16 billion so it's still part of the same company. SBC had already swallowed up numerous other baby bells prior to acquiring AT&T.

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    6. Re:This has to be a troll post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AT&T can't be allowed to get any bigger than it is now. They had to break it up once already.

      That was the original name of the monopoly known as the The Phone Company before it was dismantled. One of the baby bells bought the original trademark from Ma Bell.

    7. Re:This has to be a troll post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a segment on the colbert report showing all the pieces and parts. Its quite funny in a very sad way.

    8. Re:This has to be a troll post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah and sbc was one of the att babies that was split from the original company. Insert greek myth here.

    9. Re:This has to be a troll post by SumDog · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yea I remember that segment when it originally aired:

      http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/955486/

    10. Re: This has to be a troll post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amazon is making sure book makers go out of print too.

    11. Re:This has to be a troll post by mordenkhai · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have had the opposite experience. Had DirecTV for 2 years, took them months to figure out why the HD channels had issues. Finally after I missed the last minute of a series finale for a personal favorite show I called and finally got someone who asked me to check satellite #2 signal, I didn't know there was a Satellite #2. The guy said "Yeah it is the HD feed". Sure enough, the dish hadn't been installed correctly. They came out and fixed it, but it was too late. As soon as my contract was up I left and tried Uverse, been good. Did a stint with Comcast as they entered the area with XFinity, and had a 50% off deal. After that, I am back at Uverse with no plans to leave.

    12. Re:This has to be a troll post by Flashinfo · · Score: 1

      You are right. Bigs means monopoly, monopoly means higher prices and you have to pay big bucks to get the service. They shouldn't allow that. Flash (http://www.flashinfo.ma)

    13. Re:This has to be a troll post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      simple explanation getting from AT&T -> SBC -> at&t

      http://videosift.com/video/Colbert-regarding-the-new-ATT

    14. Re:This has to be a troll post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No kidding. "AT&T Labs" (rechristened "AT&T Services") would be one place where you'd think it was easy to get hardware and good internet hotspots to work on, but no. They're unbelievably cheap when it comes to equipment, but open the money spigots when it comes to giant corporate boondoggles like "contingency planning". This is their euphemism for "let's take all our non-union employees and force them to learn a union job so when contracts are up we have leverage". Never mind that there isn't a way in the world I'd want someone like that showing up to fix my cable or telephone line. It's all spreadsheets and numbers with these guys.

      They're buying DirecTV so they don't have to come up with something new and innovative because they can't. (This is what happens when you let finance guys run a tech company.)

    15. Re:This has to be a troll post by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      Uverse sucks because AT&T has not had any engineers that know ANYTHING about Fiber or Internet for 2 decades.

      Uverse should have been 100% IP and they should have delivered 100Mbps to every home over fiber to the house and then a single CAT-5 into the home. Then their TV could have been IPTV on set top boxes and everything would have worked decently.

      But no, they wanted to use their special crap, that stayed as crap and actually got crappier.

      This is why I really hope a company that is semi competent starts pushing Fiber to homes like Google, and then violently massacres all the cable TV/ISP companies out there.

      I want an OK-Corral type of bloodbath with companies like Comcast filing for Chapter 11 protection.

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    16. Re:This has to be a troll post by sjames · · Score: 1

      Remember in T2 when they shattered the liquid metal terminator and all the pieces slowly pooled back together?

      AT&T has been doing that ever since the breakup.

    17. Re:This has to be a troll post by RockClimbingFool · · Score: 1

      My experience with DirecTv has been fine. I have been a customer for 4 years now and only lose the signal when its absolutely down pouring outside. After your two year contract is up, call them back and ask for a discount for another year commitment and you get $20 off per month. I have done that twice now. I hope that discount doesn't go away, but with AT&T, I have a feeling they will clamp down on all the super secret best friends discounts available from DirecTv Maybe its because i have newer equipment than older customers of DirecTv, but in general, the picture is very clear and way higher quality than the crappy cable company alternative (Knology, now WowWay). I have whole home DVR and it works well.

    18. Re:This has to be a troll post by pnutjam · · Score: 2

      The whole point of uverse was to avoid dropping new line to every home in a block. You upgrade the nearest termination point to fibre and push everything through copper. Bonus, you don't have to allow anyone onto your new fiber connected site.

    19. Re:This has to be a troll post by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      If uverse is any example. You will still get plenty of discounts. It's impossible to compare costs because everyone is on a special. You can even lock in most of the special prices through the website, without a phone call.

    20. Re:This has to be a troll post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The AT&T broken up in 1983 was a different company. The current company called AT&T used to be Southwestern Bell.

      and who do you think Southwestern Bell was BEFORE it was Southwestern Bell? AT&T. Yes it got broke up but then all the pieces came back together. Southwesten Bell, BellSouth and all the other Bells came from the same source AT&T and they are back again as AT&T. Same shit soup just re-heated.

      Personally I've used DirectTV for years and had good service but if ATT buys them this will be a deal breaker for me. I'll do without before paying one cent to these assholes.

    21. Re:This has to be a troll post by CWCheese · · Score: 1

      Actually, SBC fell short of the goal of recreating Ma Bell. Bell Atlantic and NYNEX had joined up and eventually became Verizon, so there would have to be a merger of current AT&T with Verizon to achieve the reconsolidation of the old AT&T.

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    22. Re:This has to be a troll post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do what? Cites or it didn't happen.

    23. Re:This has to be a troll post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so in this fantasy world of yours where is the pot of gold coming from to run all this fiber?

    24. Re:This has to be a troll post by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Surely, if they are willing to pay 48 billion they would pay 100 billion.

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  2. Net neutraliy, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Now, take that AT&T from its shareholders and just liquidate it. Disgusting.

  3. They still don't support net neutrality... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So ATT&T is pulling a Comcast and limiting our choices. Eff'em.

    1. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      who gives a f*k? cable television is something noone cares about... and anyone who does is a dumbass... this is the age of the internet.

      You will give a fuck when the only choice for video will be 240kbps youtube/netflix or AT&T 3D, high def. video from their own 'competing' service.

      Or when voip is blocked with "random jitter" but their service is working at optimal 64kbps.

    2. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Informative

      who gives a f*k? cable television is something noone cares about... and anyone who does is a dumbass... this is the age of the internet.

      Right and what if 4 years from now your internet connection must include TV and HBO at $200 a month or NO internet for you! (soup Nazi voice from Seinfeld)

    3. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      You got that backwards. They will be eff'n you.

    4. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your already double paying for access to content, you paying Comcast for their service and then your paying them again if you use Netflix. I'm not buying into Netflix's accusations that they were more or less blackmailed into paying for faster speeds, the way I see it is they wanted an exclusive deal to cripple their competition, and their competition will also have to out the ass for the same deal, which of course means users will be forced to pay, and these deals remain 'disclosed' !

      Then there's the other things I have heard and read about where either Concast is slowing down speeds in order to force these internet streaming services to pay for high speed, or that these services are crippling or causing traffic jams on a system that no company wants to upgrade. But yet without upgrades they continue to jack up their prices, and this problem is only getting worse.

      Most on /. knew when these movie/TV streaming services became popular it was only a matter of time before it would end up like cable/satellite, I would actually agree with you, your going to be triple charged, your going to be paying the internet provider, the streaming service not only for the content but also to the providers for decent smooth bandwidth, charged when the providers start capping content down to average internet use, then charging you for every 10MB extra you use.

      And I have no doubt the major cable channels/companies will start demanding they to receive fees for access to their content. All will lead to the very reason people started using internet streaming to begin with, it was cheap. As far as I'm concerned (who gives a f*k? cable television is something noone cares about... and anyone who does is a dumbass... this is the age of the internet) these people are fools. The internet is dying a slow death, theirs no competition among providers, you have countries censoring the internet, and are country (US) who have destroyed any chance of the internet remaining open and free. The "age of the internet" has already passed, maxed out, now corporate greed and citizens who don't care just as long as they can buy stuff or pay bills.

    5. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      If ISPs started forcing such deals on it and we failed to demand ISPs be deprivatized, then we'd kind of deserve to be screwed over like that.

    6. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If ISPs started forcing such deals on it and we failed to demand ISPs be deprivatized, then we'd kind of deserve to be screwed over like that.

      They already are. You act we own the internet. We don't. AT&t does as they own the wires and will do everything possible to keep their business model with TV afloat. Netflix is a threat so they need to use the internet to stop it.

      Stop voting for free market Republicans! That's a thought as they would view this as socialism to take internet backa

    7. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by Xicor · · Score: 1

      4 years from now, i will have google fiber for 70$ a month with a gigabit connection... and theres nothing any of the cable companies can do about it.

    8. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by tsqr · · Score: 1

      who gives a f*k? cable television is something noone cares about... and anyone who does is a dumbass... this is the age of the internet.

      This, of course, is hyperbolic nonsense, as reflected by the numbers. As of 2012, the top ten cable tv providers in the US had a total of over 59 million subscribers. Perhaps someday no one will give a "f*k" about cable tv, but today is not that day.

    9. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by sjames · · Score: 2

      Forget demand, you'll have to outbid them on the congressman auction. Good luck!

    10. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Verizon FiOS bundle prices are getting close to that. I pay a little more for "double-play" Internet and voice than I would have paid for "triple-play" with basic TV added -- except that Verizon couldn't resist adding a $10/month set-top box charge even when I told them we don't have a working television. I told them to stuff it.

    11. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by Xicor · · Score: 1

      the people who buy it generally buy it because the bundle costs less with cable than it does without, or they are dumbasses who dont realize how to watch their shows online.

    12. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by tsqr · · Score: 2

      the people who buy it generally buy it because the bundle costs less with cable than it does without, or they are dumbasses who dont realize how to watch their shows online.

      People who watch all of their shows online are a tiny fraction of viewers in total, and people who don't share your attitudes in this regard aren't "dumbasses"; they just have different preferences and priorities than you have.

    13. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by Billly+Gates · · Score: 0

      They can deprioritize packets that touch their backbone unless you or Google can prove you have a paid cable subscription

    14. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      They're still elected with votes, and elections aren't outright frauds in this country at this point. Special interests play a game of FUD to keep voter apathy high enough to keep their guys in. If they mess up and more voters actually care to vote their politicians out, no amount of lobbying or campaign contributions can stop that.

      They would have to mess up spectacularly to get your average voter to care about it, but that's precisely what the example Billy came up with. I think people would be outraged if they had to pay a $200 cable bill in order to get internet, to the point where they WOULD vote to change it finally.

      Unless you're suggesting that ISPs are SO powerful that they'd declare a military junta rather than allow internet service to be nationalized.

    15. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by sjames · · Score: 2

      If the choice is Tweedledee and Tweedledum and both got a nice 'bonus' check, good luck.

      You'll need double good luck to get the GOP to agree to nationalize anything.

    16. Re: They still don't support net neutrality... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut your mouth! Stop blaming The Republicans! Seriously if you wanna blame someone? Then blame those liberal idiots! There the control brainwashing freaks that are ruining America today!

    17. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      No, again, you're confusing cynicism with wisdom. We are often left with only two bad choices because of voter apathy. The primaries are open. They would be democratic if anyone bothered voting.. Tweedledee and Tweedledum can't endorse something massively unpopular and still get the nomination no matter how much corporations would love it, and if they did, there would be third parties.

    18. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, they and you, are dumbasses for falling for their pathetic bullshit. The fact you can't come to terms with it makes you even dumber.

    19. Re:They still don't support net neutrality... by sjames · · Score: 1

      Well naturally. That's why they wait until elected to pull their about face on the issue.

  4. Which was probably a patent, sigh. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They are the last real competitor to terrestrial cable tv. And the only one whose DVR was bright enough to back up 10s when you fastforwarded through a commercial and released when you saw the show start whizzin' by.

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    1. Re:Which was probably a patent, sigh. by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

      They are the last real competitor to terrestrial cable tv.

      My thoughts as well. Not to mention they have inside track on NFL Sunday Ticket. Since AT&T has the wireless broadband infrastructure and also DSL, they are the only company that will be able to keep Comcast/TWC in check.

    2. Re:Which was probably a patent, sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Since AT&T has the wireless broadband infrastructure and also DSL, they are the only company that will be able to keep Comcast/TWC in check.

      +1 Funny.

    3. Re:Which was probably a patent, sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's probably more the 101 degree west satellite location.

    4. Re:Which was probably a patent, sigh. by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 2

      Uhh... AT&T's DVR is equally as bright.

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    5. Re:Which was probably a patent, sigh. by koreanbabykilla · · Score: 1

      why do you think they want 101 over 99 and 103 or the other 2 slots?

    6. Re:Which was probably a patent, sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it actually backs up to the last black frame of video, where it cuts from commercial to show.

  5. Well. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We know where all the money they should be using on upgrading their network is going.

    1. Re: Well. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      What are your standards for 'just fine'? Sure, even DSL beats the atavistic barbarisms of the backwoods; but the majority of 'civilization' scrapes by on overpriced and underimpressive cable offerings, or incrementally superior and equally spendy FIOS, with just a few pockets of anything better than that, unless you live inside a colo or something.

    2. Re: Well. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if they use the satellite bandwidth for downstream and use their LTE spectrum for upstream?

    3. Re: Well. by alen · · Score: 0

      NYC the cheapest cable internet is 15/1 and time warner is upgrading the lowest tier to around 30/3 in a few months
      same in other bigger suburbs and larger towns. you can get 20mbps internet for $50 a month

    4. Re: Well. by ArhcAngel · · Score: 3, Informative

      Which is all relatively pointless when their connection to the backbone is fscked on purpose to keep your streaming choppy.

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    5. Re: Well. by alen · · Score: 0

      i rarely watch netflix so i don't really care about their self made problems

    6. Re: Well. by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      I had no idea Brian L. Roberts had a /. account. Stick around you might actually learn something.

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    7. Re: Well. by Mabhatter · · Score: 2

      Those huge unbalanced numbers like 15/1 tell the tale of utilization right there. The current ISPs are all leeches from the "Internet" they don't PUT CONTENT on the Internet, so nobody wants to pay for more lanes to the highway.

      They also don't want upstream because people on their own network could out-host the regular Internet with services just between ISP subscribers... Like blackmarket prison goods!

    8. Re:Well. by Monoman · · Score: 0

      The short-sighted stock holders (and market) like to see money spent on increasing revenue and profits rather than it being spent on making the product/service better.

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    9. Re: Well. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What towns are larger than NYC?

    10. Re: Well. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if they use the satellite bandwidth for downstream and use their LTE spectrum for upstream?

      The latency will still suck.

    11. Re:Well. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hah. You should work for them :D

      For YEARS we've been told there isn't any budget for training. Apparently having a trained workforce that knows how to work with the gear is an unnecessary expense when there are stadium naming rights for consideration, insane executive compensation, and other companies to assimilate. :|

      It's non-existent to see any sort of training of any kind on new equipment we're supposed to configure / maintain / operate. You get dropped into a position that has full enable access to all the routers / switches of an internal network ( approx ~20k devices ) with ZERO training or pre-qualifications. The last training course I attended that the company paid for was over a DECADE ago. ( let that sink in for a moment )

      Some of the employees are sharp enough to learn this on our own. We'll pick up the books, watch any online training we can find and some of us even pay for our own training ( though Cisco Certified anything is quite pricey. The CCNA courses run about $4k for a bootcamp course. CCNP is around $9k after you factor in hotel as well ) I burned a weeks vacation and paid for the CCNA just to get some formal instruction on what I'm supposed to know. If I do the CCNP, it will be as my means of leaving the company.

      For many, however, they'll never get it. Ever. Nor will the average employee ever fork over that kind of cash for training. Folks who can barely spell FTP without a flashcard to help them are staffing some of these positions and, since the company absolutely refuses to train anyone, the perception is it must be ok to be a complete idiot with all the keys to the kingdom at your fingertips. ( and why not ? The idiots get the same financial compensation as those who understand the concepts )

      I gave up complaining about it years ago as they just ignore the obvious then bitch about why our newest employee is incapable of doing anything useful after being on the job for a year or two. :|

      I'll probably eat the CCNP training costs, get the cert and get the hell out of this place before it implodes.

    12. Re:Well. by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      This is what they mean when they say they can't be common carriers, it will cut their ability to "upgrade infrastructure". I'm not following how Merger-fest 2014 is somehow giving consumers more choice, however.

    13. Re: Well. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rural residents vote. That should be reason enough.

    14. Re: Well. by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      NYC the cheapest cable internet is 15/1 and time warner is upgrading the lowest tier to around 30/3 in a few months same in other bigger suburbs and larger towns. you can get 20mbps internet for $50 a month

      So what can I get for a more reasonable price (say, $20/month)? The answer is sub-1Mbps DSL and usually nothing else.

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    15. Re: Well. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right but when they come for the Slashdot posters, who will think about you?

  6. $48.5 billion? by PPalmgren · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you spent HALF that on your network you'd crush your competition! What a crock of shit.

    1. Re:$48.5 billion? by Charliemopps · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If you spent HALF that on your network you'd crush your competition! What a crock of shit.

      Again with the "I know how to run a billion dollar business!" nonsense. You've no idea what you're talking about.

      If they spent 24 billion on their network, what could they do at best? Their entire revenue from residential customers is $5.7 billion. http://about.att.com/story/att...
      even if they'd have to increase their customers by 500% just to get revenue close to that kind of money. That's not even including all the added cost to support it. Residential broadband is not profitable. No one wants to expand it because it's just bad business sense. All the money is in services and commercial products. Residential networks are just a liability they have to take on to get first shot at the commercial customers.

      The kind of money it would cost to improve our countries network to the standards you likely want would NEVER be profitable. Ever. They'd be bankrupt in a few years.

    2. Re:$48.5 billion? by tysonedwards · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not that it really matters, but the majority of the deal is in stock...
      Also known as "we now own you, and in exchange your stockholders now hold a smaller portion of our stock instead!

      Only 30% of the deal is in cash, making it 14.5 Billion changing hands. Still a big number, but not as bad as it sounds.

      As such, it actually comes out a touch cheaper than the cost that DirecTV spent on their satellites in the first place, and AT&T gets to exploit the 16% profit margin on DirecTV's lines of service.

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    3. Re:$48.5 billion? by Bengie · · Score: 4, Informative

      First off, that $5.7b is for the first quarter, you know, 3 months. Second, that only applies to the 11.3mil Uverse customers. How many industries can get $166/month average per customer?

    4. Re:$48.5 billion? by nabsltd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As such, it actually comes out a touch cheaper than the cost that DirecTV spent on their satellites in the first place, and AT&T gets to exploit the 16% profit margin on DirecTV's lines of service.

      And, it basically kills off any chance for improvement of DirecTV technologies:

      While its business has shown little growth in recent years, it generated about $8 billion in earnings last year. Much of that will go toward future investments in growth, AT&T said, including bidding at least $9 billion for wireless network capacity that the government plans to auction off soon.

      Basically, AT&T is going to cannibalize DirecTV by taking all the money from DirecTV to use on cell phone spectrum. So, no money for new satellites, improved encoding hardware, more servers for download of on demand, etc.

      I've been a DirecTV subscriber since 1999, and if this merger goes through, I'll have to start looking for some other provider. It might even make me cut the cord.

    5. Re:$48.5 billion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously, you don't work for Google Fiber.

    6. Re:$48.5 billion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Split ISPs from cable television. Watch AT&T tank. (It's inevitable that the internet will replace dedicated TV systems. It's just a matter of time.)

      At least DirecTV investors will make money on the deal.

    7. Re:$48.5 billion? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      If they spent 24 billion on their network, what could they do at best? Their entire revenue from residential customers is $5.7 billion.

      You mean their ANNUAL revenue right now from residential customers is $5.7 billion. If they spent 24 billion on upgrading and adding infrastructure their network, they would earn it within a few years, ignoring that their revenue will grow with a larger network.

    8. Re:$48.5 billion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      go with att uvers

    9. Re:$48.5 billion? by lgw · · Score: 1

      At least DirecTV investors will make money on the deal.

      Not to mention all the regulators. You don't think this merger will be approved out of concern for the best interest of the American people, do you? I'd bet this on is worth $1M/year jobs for dozens of congressional staffers!

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    10. Re:$48.5 billion? by PRMan · · Score: 1

      I love DirecTV but have a lifetime ban on AT&T. As soon as this goes through (actually a month earlier), I will officially be a cord cutter. And that's because my other choice will be switching to Comcast.

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    11. Re:$48.5 billion? by Desler · · Score: 1

      You mean their ANNUAL revenue right now from residential customers is $5.7 billion.

      No, their quarterly revenue is that.

    12. Re:$48.5 billion? by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      If you think their CEO knows how to run a billion dollar business, then I chuckle at your naivety.

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    13. Re:$48.5 billion? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      No, their quarterly revenue is that.

      In other words, reinvesting 24 billion in their network would be just about 100% of a year's revenue.

      It would put their network in a leading position for growing their future revenue while creating additional revenue opportunities and hurting their would-be competitors, all without antagonizing their customers... which is what's called a smart investment.

    14. Re:$48.5 billion? by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 1

      If you aired ALF on your network you'd crush your competition! Or you'd be craving cat.

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    15. Re:$48.5 billion? by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      "Yeah, let's amortize our network investment over 1 year instead of the 10 to 20 it will be good for. That will trick people into thinking they need to cut us a break."
      -some ATT stooge

    16. Re:$48.5 billion? by linuxrocks123 · · Score: 1

      What about Dish?

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    17. Re:$48.5 billion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All of that is definitely true. Unfortunately AT&T only sees money that can't be used to line the executives' wallets.

  7. AT&T by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wait, DirectTV is worth 50 Billion so...

  8. Where is competition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So the question is, where is competition anymore? You have Comcast wanting Time Warner, ATT now wanting DirectTV and what merger is next? Does any of this help the consumer? I doubt it very much, and in fact it looks like ATT is trying to garner more customers into its web of Internet, phone and now TV services.
    Funny how the break up of Bell Telephone did nothing to put a end to big communication companies. What comes around goes around. I have always been stuck with one broadband provider. Absolutely no real competition. Yea, a couple Wireless ISP's and of course another giant in cellular broadband. But other then that you have DSL which is not even high speed in my book. Most consumers are stuck with their ISP and have little choice which means no competition.

    1. Re:Where is competition? by whistlingtony · · Score: 1

      Actually, the breakup of Bell did some amazing things for a while. All of the regulations made the phone companies play nice. Things were pretty sweet for a while. Then we took it for granted, started deregulating, and here we are again.

      Common Carrier rules were pretty awesome when we had them. Back in the heady days of Dial Up, you could start an ISP pretty easily. The big telephone companies HAD to lease you connections at a decent price. Competition was there. ISPs competed on service. There were choices. It was awesome.

      Now we've lost that and Comcast is one of the most hated companies in America. Because Free Market!

    2. Re:Where is competition? by savuporo · · Score: 1

      Of course we know that too much competition is just CONFUSING to an average american. Thats why everything is bound to converge around two "choices" of everything. Demolicans or republicrats, Lockheed or Boeing, AT&T or Verizon, Intel or AMD ..
      Its all free market, yes ?

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    3. Re:Where is competition? by tquasar · · Score: 1

      There were choices. I could use one phone company for local service and another for "long distance". In the USofA a phone call to a location as far as sixty miles distant was a "toll call" that required additional fees. Rates were lower after 5 PM so people waited to call friends.... A co-worker said his MOM started a long distance phone business!

  9. YEAH! by david999 · · Score: 0

    Yeah! Less choices and higher cost!

  10. Ugh I am so tired of this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This cannot be allowed..
    Actually the Comcast / Time Warner thing should be stopped too.

    Its crazy these company's have billions of money laying around to buy competition but cannot upgrade their networks..

    I remember them complaining back in day how it would cost millions to upgrade their network.. Partitioned congress to increase rates so they could afford to upgrade, then did not actually upgrade, instead they bought out other company's and forced mini monopolies around various locations. (like how I can get Comcast only at my old house in MI, yet Charter at new house in MI)

    Yeh F this..

    1. Re:Ugh I am so tired of this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Partitioned Congress? It is partitioned already, with these "red" and "blue" colors... but in reality, both are owned by the same people.

      Or do you mean disk partitions? I would love to see GPT partitioning in Congress... I think they are still using MBR, and have yet to move to modern filesystems.

      Maybe Congress should dispense of partitions altogether and go with ZFS or Storage Spaces?

  11. weekend announcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    anyone know why this is announced on a Sunday?

    1. Re:weekend announcement by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      So all the big inside players can get their stock orders lined up before the hoi polloi.

    2. Re: weekend announcement by Mabhatter · · Score: 1

      That gives them 12 hours for the fires and pitchforks to die down... By morning.... ...look waffles!

  12. Nooooooooo!!! by opkool · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nooooooooo!!!

    1. Re:Nooooooooo!!! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      AT&T has one of the worst costumer service records. Removing competition is about as likely to improve customer service as a poke in the eye with a hot stick.

  13. Sports by tepples · · Score: 5, Insightful

    cable television is something noone cares about [in] the age of the internet

    That might be true once decades-long carriage contracts between the networks and the cable system operators expire and once decades-long contracts between the major professional and collegiate sport leagues and the networks expire. Until then, we're left with games that get blacked out online if shown on national or regional cable networks.

    1. Re:Sports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And why do you presume they won't just extend those contracts?

  14. I was getting worried by Billly+Gates · · Score: 4, Funny

    We have too low prices and too much speed. Think of the poor telecoms! They are just struggling to stay relevant and if only they owned all the last miles then how could they grab amazon and Netflix by the balls and tripple dip since they already charge both ways?

  15. Farmers grow your food by tepples · · Score: 2

    No reason why my bill should pay to run cable for people who live in the middle of no where

    Because the people who grow the food you eat need a way to find the best market to sell the food that they grow.

    1. Re:Farmers grow your food by Burdell · · Score: 1

      Okay, so let them make that part of the "cost of doing business", like other just about every other business has to do. Farmers also have to have fuel to operate and haul equipment, seed, fertilizer/herbicide/pesticide, and product to and from "civilization", and they manage to do that just fine without my fuel getting taxed extra to pay for their fuel. I'd argue that fuel is a lot more important to the process than cheap high-speed Internet.

    2. Re:Farmers grow your food by tepples · · Score: 1

      [Farmers] manage to [buy fuel for their equipment] just fine without my fuel getting taxed extra to pay for their fuel

      Sorry, I had to stop chuckling. Have you ever heard of something called farm subsidies?

      I'd argue that fuel is a lot more important to the process than cheap high-speed Internet.

      Making it uncomfortable to be a farmer will force a lot of farm families out of farming, which could hurt a country's food security.

    3. Re:Farmers grow your food by mysidia · · Score: 2

      and they manage to do that just fine without my fuel getting taxed extra to pay for their fuel.

      Your fuel IS taxed, and their fuel is exempt from the taxes.

      What do you think is happening?

      You are paying higher fuel tax to displace the revenue not gained as a result of them not paying fuel taxes.

    4. Re:Farmers grow your food by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Because the people who grow the food you eat need a way to find the best market to sell the food that they grow.

      The cost of growing food should be incorporated into the price of the food, not into some separate subsidy or tax break.

    5. Re:Farmers grow your food by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      But then you couldn't afford to pay your cable bill every month and the cable lobby simply cannot have that!

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    6. Re:Farmers grow your food by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      the people who grow the food you eat need a way to find the best market to sell the food that they grow.

      Maybe I don't want them to find the best market. Maybe I'd rather they sell to the market I buy food from. They are the people who grow the food I eat after all.

    7. Re:Farmers grow your food by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      [Farmers] manage to [buy fuel for their equipment] just fine without my fuel getting taxed extra to pay for their fuel

      Sorry, I had to stop chuckling. Have you ever heard of something called farm subsidies?

      I'd argue that fuel is a lot more important to the process than cheap high-speed Internet.

      Making it uncomfortable to be a farmer will force a lot of farm families out of farming, which could hurt a country's food security.

      It's been uncomfortable to be a "farm family" for a long, long time now.

      Unless you mean "farm family of companies' [TM].

  16. $2,400 per user? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is that correct? how can they be worth that much?

    So if i say start a new tv service and give every new user say a free big flat screen I can get millions of users and sell out to AT&T?

    1. Re:$2,400 per user? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Well, that's just 2 years of subscription fees at $100/head, and there are lots of plans more expensive than that. In fact, it's just over 1.5x annual revenue, which isn't necessarily a bad deal for a mature industry with a large subscriber base and a rapidly increasing revenue. I mean, hey, you're competing with cable so it's more of a race to see who can raise rates the fastest, rather than find the bottom dollar service cost.

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  17. 2 x 1 = 0 by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 2

    Two companies I refused to do (any more) business with trying to become one company I won't do any business with.

    How long til we end up with just ATT&T and Comcast as players?

    1. Re:2 x 1 = 0 by mordenkhai · · Score: 1

      Thursday... some time before noon.

    2. Re:2 x 1 = 0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Admiral, the new comms system won't be installed until Tuesday.

  18. The cynic in me by Jahoda · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Cannot help but observe how convenient it will be for the American surveillance state when we have only two sources for delivery of media and internet to the home. But I'm sure this is just paranoid lunacy, right?

    1. Re:The cynic in me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I vote for the latter!

    2. Re:The cynic in me by tquasar · · Score: 2

      The NSA and, um what's the other one...?

    3. Re:The cynic in me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GCHQ

    4. Re:The cynic in me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do not have authority to opperat on US soil. it would be the NSA and DHS

  19. AT&T versus ... AT&T by John.Banister · · Score: 2

    A little over 10 years ago, Comcast merged with AT&T Broadband, which was the USA's largest cable television operator at that time. Now it comes down to one AT&T operation versus another. If divestiture hadn't happened, they might still be a utility, which is probably why we had divestiture.

    1. Re:AT&T versus ... AT&T by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      I worked for AT&T broadband back then, and their management actually had a clue. Comcast came in and started the downward spiral.
      I remember sitting in on meetings talking about adding cameras to the cable boxes in order to count the number of people watching TV, at that time we already gathered information about what TV channels you were watching every 15 minutes, that data collection rate has increased in frequency I am sure.

      I would not be surprised if the new boxes had a type of very low res FLIR camera in order to count the number of bodies in the room.

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    2. Re:AT&T versus ... AT&T by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      My Dad was working for Comsat Etam when AT&T bought it, and worked there for another 9 1/2 years until he retired. He said that the bureaucracy that came in with AT&T was mind boggling. AT&T Broadband was fairly newly created before Comcast arrived. Did it manage to escape the traditional AT&T management structure, or did they just operate it better?

    3. Re:AT&T versus ... AT&T by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      They escaped it by having the mother ship not know what to do with it. the whole cable TV biz confounded the top management so they left it alone for the short time it was standing on it's own.

      really big corporations have nooks and crannies where you can operate completely free of management and any obstruction. One of my friends went 3 years without ever knowing who his manager was, never had any calls to ask him to do anything ,etc... HR kept sending his paychecks. and he kept doing what he always did.

      and Comcast bought us and the only way they found him was that 2 years after the merger they had to change HR/Payroll systems and that is when he was discovered. By then he had set up everything to be automated and remotely managed so he never went into work, he did it all from home.

      When they asked him if what he did was important, he just said, "it will all fall down if I dont come in for a week, want me to take a vacation and prove that to you?"
      he went home that night and stopped all his cron jobs and scripts. Every single backbone video transfer system shit it's self across 3 states within 2 days.
      He was an expert in the old crap systems that even the vendor said, "you should not use those anymore"...

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    4. Re:AT&T versus ... AT&T by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      I have to imagine that they capitulated in the short term and eliminated the dependance on one individual in the long run.

  20. Decreased Channel Cost for AT&T by ps_inkling · · Score: 1

    Customer growth with UVERSE was not happening fast enough -- content distributors (Disney/ESPN, premium movie channels, Scripps Networks, etc.) charged AT&T more because they did not have the subscriber numbers to leverage lower channel costs. After the merger, I expect those contracts to be renegotiated for much lower costs per subscriber for AT&T. Not that the consumers will see any of those savings...

  21. Satellite and Cell Phone is Good Enough? by ps_inkling · · Score: 2

    I am afraid that, by owning a satellite television provider and a satellite internet provider, AT&T will proclaim that they have fulfilled the "universal service" mandate and refuse to upgrade any more legacy copper wire plant. There have been rumors that AT&T will not run new copper lines to a home or business if they are covered by any cell phone tower or any competing phone provider (including VoIP from another provider); nor will they replace faulty or noisy existing copper lines, since you could get service from a competitor.

    1. Re:Satellite and Cell Phone is Good Enough? by l810c · · Score: 1

      I think this is actually the key thing in this discussion.

      I left their DSL and phone for Comcast a couple of years ago and cannot be happier. My Internet with Comcast Absolutely Rocks, Uverse just cannot match the speeds I'm getting with cable.

      They cannot compete with thin copper on internet speeds, so they are diversifying to video content.

      I will never go back to them.

      The problem:
      Comcast, (who's service I Love right now) will most definitely take advantage of this in the future and find a way to screw me. And I will have no true alternative.

    2. Re:Satellite and Cell Phone is Good Enough? by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Verizon does this as well, we have huge cables that are underwater and they refuse to replace them if your DSL is slow or if you have noise on your phone line. I am hoping that when they do some street construction this summer in the area, that when I point out to the backhoe operator that the cable there for Verizon is why his internet is slow it will be accidentally ripped out to force them to fix it.

      Although I am thinking of doing what a friend mentioned he used to do in NYC in the 80's to force the phone company to fix wires. he would wire his phone wires to 120VAC and cause them to burn out at the problem point, no more noise on the line, just dead line that they have to fix.

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    3. Re:Satellite and Cell Phone is Good Enough? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have Verizon DSL, it's may be worth paying the extra $5/month for voice service in cases like this. When you report it as a problem with your voice line, there are usually state regulations requiring that it be fixed within a certain amount of time. I had a similar problem.. DSL side kept saying the line looked good, they could see the modem, etc. Once I reported it as a voice problem I had a new service drop the next day. As long as underground cables are installed correctly (e.g. in conduit), replacement cost isn't all that different.

  22. Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It acquired AT&T's Cellular and Long Distance businesses as part of the deal, so really it was just reintegrating AT&T assets with SBC. Calling the new entity AT&T isn't entirely incorrect, since both were divisions of Ma Bell before the breakup.

  23. The empire rises again by Dega704 · · Score: 1

    Is this the "competition" that is supposed to "self regulate" the internet providers once net neutrality is dead?

    1. Re:The empire rises again by whistlingtony · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yup. That finger in our ass is the invisible hand of the Free Market. :D

      Whenever someone tells me that the Free Market is better at regulating companies that government, I ask them to show me ONE example, since its so simple and easy. Just one. No, the gay hating wedding cake place doesn't count. Show me an example where a LARGE company EVER was punished by consumers for being assholes.

      I still remember watching people roll into the ARCO (Part of B.P., it's right on the sign) gas station near my house right after the B.P. oil rig spill in the Gulf. There was a Shell right across the street. People just didn't care. It was 5cents cheaper a gallon. That's less than a buck savings on a regular gas tank, and the ignorant !@#$ers didn't even think about it. It still bothers me to this day.

  24. a hell of a lot more than 20 million subscribers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    directv also happens to be the programming distributor upstream for many, many cable systems; as well as private distribution systems in apartments, condos, hotels, school/dorms, and other places.

    i dont see how this could possibly be approved.. seeing how there is too much overlap of markets using different technologies..

    its been disallowed before, it'd better be disallowed again even though the industry's buddies control the fcc.

  25. Satellite TV With UVERSE for backup by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Satellite TV With UVERSE for backup due to rain fade even at a lower bit-rate will be so cool

  26. Srsly? by ArhcAngel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Okay, so let them make that part of the "cost of doing business", like other just about every other business has to do. Farmers also have to have fuel to operate and haul equipment, seed, fertilizer/herbicide/pesticide, and product to and from "civilization", and they manage to do that just fine without my fuel getting taxed extra to pay for their fuel. I'd argue that fuel is a lot more important to the process than cheap high-speed Internet.

    Fuel Tax in the USA
    IRS definitions for non-taxable fuel uses "On a farm for farming purposes"
    You might want to do a little research BEFORE embarrassing yourself on /. which is pretty hard given all the competition but you have won the /. lottery this night my friend.

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    1. Re:Srsly? by tquasar · · Score: 1

      Farm owners were early adopters of diesel fueled cars and trucks. Back when the engines rattled noisily and belched soot.

    2. Re:Srsly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last week?

  27. Huh by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    You could probably buy a country with that much money. Like, if you offered Castro a large briefcase full of $48 billion, I think he'd probably go for it. Just saying, you can buy a shitty satellite TV company or Cuba. One of them, you can start assembling an army and working toward world domination. One you can beam reruns of "Friends" to customers you hate.

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    1. Re:Huh by tquasar · · Score: 1

      Buy a country? Parador? I miss Raul Julia, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt00...

  28. Death Star Rises Again - Rebel Union Crushed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is really about crushing their Union, and offloading their central offices that are needed to copper service. ATT is going mostly with contractors now.

  29. FCC by BradMajors · · Score: 1

    FCC, please explain to us how this merger would benefit us consumers.

    1. Re:FCC by PaddyM · · Score: 1

      Well, you see, when I retire from the FCC, I will have a paid position at AT&D and as a consumer I will be able to have more choices. And my money trickles down to the rest of the country, growing the money supply for everyone. This is how capitalism works and I can't really see how blocking the merger would benefit anyone. It clearly wouldn't benefit me. -- Any FCC Commissioner

  30. Too big to [fill in the blank] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    America used to enforce antitrust laws.

  31. Please someone explain to me by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

    How the fuck is that good for competition?

    Seriously I was being sarcastic, but how the fuck was that allowed to pass with the FCC?

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    1. Re:Please someone explain to me by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      The FCC chairman is a bought and paid for industry insider. He is making sure he gets a very good bonus when he leaves his position and goes back to his job in the private sector.

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  32. Re:Maybe it's time to switch from the soapbox to.. by whistlingtony · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Assholes always preaching the gun. Meanwhile less than half the population bothers to vote. Lets actually USE the ballot box before we switch to the ammo box, huh? I mean, I get the allure, but that sort of things has a really shitty history of actually working.

    Hell, if we all organized and stopped buying NIKE products until they told congress to behave, then moved from company to company just NOT buying products, we'd get immediate action. We could NOT do things and if we did it in an organized fashion, shit would change.

    Or you could try taking your AR-15 and going up against military hardware and training. Good Luck!

  33. Choice by Hamsterdan · · Score: 2

    Say goodbye to affordable internet and tv boys & girls....

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  34. Which mega corp should win? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I vote for Octan to step in and buy all these guys up. Wayland or Lexcorp would be good too. Let's go for real villains and not just petty thugs after money. We have only got the evil corporations we need, not the evil corporations we deserve.

    Let's go for Illuminati and Lizardmen vs Masons and Knights Templar!

  35. Hooray for cable TV? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, Charter's been trying to find a way to get me back after I switched to DirecTV.... this might do it. If AT&T tries to merge things so DirecTV and UVerse share the same features, I'll be happy to get something else.

  36. Business Strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's just borrow all the money, buy up all the competition and then people will be forced to pay us - so we can then pay off our loan.

    Ta da

    1. Re:Business Strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait.....

  37. By 2025 there will be only be one telecom provider by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2014 -- AT&T Merges with Dish. Comcast Merges with Time Warner
    2015 -- Verizon merges with Dish
    2015 -- Sprint merges with T-mobile
    2018 -- Comcast merges with Charter
    2018 -- Sprint files chapter 7 bankruptcy, all assets are divided between Verizon and AT&T
    2020 -- AT&T merges with Verizon
    2025 -- AT&T merges with Comcast

  38. double sheit by csumpi · · Score: 1

    a sheit of a company buying another sheit of a company

    1. Re:double sheit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sheit isn't a fucking word no matter how many times you put it in a sentence.

  39. I don't get it... by unixcorn · · Score: 1

    I am a DirecTV customer. I live in a rural area and my only choice for internet is DSL. I use a CLEC, as opposed to CenturyLink who sucked big time. I am very happy with my internet connection and don't understand why you folks who get everything bundled are worried about this merger. Here's why, I pay around $150 per month for DirecTV with two DVRs and a few other boxes. I also pay around $70 per month for my internet service which I am happy to have. So if you complainers are getting phone/TV/Internet bundles with more than a 5MB/s data rate for less than $220 per month, please just stop your whining. You will never have to pay so much for so little unless you move somewhere there is no cable.

    1. Re:I don't get it... by q4Fry · · Score: 1

      You will never have to pay so much for so little unless you move somewhere there is no cable.

      Except when "so much for so little" refers to the rent I pay and the room it pays for. It's not all rainbows and unixcorns in the city, either.

  40. Having lived in Europe a few years back... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...I have to ask: When did we say hello to those things here?

  41. Cell data plans are going to be expensive by gelfling · · Score: 1

    Imagine how much they will charge now. It will be awesome.

  42. Re:Maybe it's time to switch from the soapbox to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what we really need to do is kill off the zombie dipshits that prevent intelligent organized protests like you suggest.

  43. Dish Network was blocked from acquiring... by CraigCruden · · Score: 1

    The same standards should be applied to AT&T acquisition.... and they should be blocked since it would reduce competition in markets where AT&T already has a terrestrial cable monopoly/duopoly.

  44. Another one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the big companies are buying up the smaller ones in this Fascist takeover of America.

  45. Re:Maybe it's time to switch from the soapbox to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Assholes always preaching the gun. Meanwhile less than half the population bothers to vote. Lets actually USE the ballot box before we switch to the ammo box, huh? I mean, I get the allure, but that sort of things has a really shitty history of actually working.

    What about swords?

  46. Nooooo by jasper160 · · Score: 1

    Oh great, higher rates for crappier service. QOS is the last thing on AT&T's mind.

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