This Is Your Brain While Videogaming Stoned
Daniel_Stuckey (2647775) writes "Pot and video games have long been bound together in hazy, wedded bliss—as well as in compulsion and codependency. Many a World of Warcraft binger has been found in the darkest hours of the night with clouds of sweet, milk-white smoke curling around him, a bong next to the keyboard. But the way these lovers, games and weed, commingle has only rarely been studied, and when done so, usually exclusively in the context of substance abuse and how it relates to what is known as PVP: 'problem video game playing.'" Motherboard takes a different look.
Say PVP to a gamer and they're thinking of how to frag everybody else, not that they're addicted.
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Let's see this same thing repeated with these for comparison:
alcohol
cocaine
LSD
MDA
MDNA
adderall
zoloft
perkoset
xanax
etc...you get my point...
every damn time people anywhere talk about "drugs" and their effects we need to **compare** it to other similar things!
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Well, I'm stoned and I've been playing video games stoned for almost all of my video game life.
And all I have is this to say:
What are we talking about again?
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Well, it's getting harder and harder to demonize video games. The kids of today are already the second generation of gamers, their parents are the first. Having a teenager (i.e. the time when you start wondering "just where did my kid go wrong?") means that you're about 40 years old. That is about the age where you had an Atari 2600 or a C64 as a kid.
Demonizing weed isn't easy either, since it's been around for two generations by now (or rather, two generations had some rather high rate of exposure to it).
What's left is demonizing the combo. Because when you were a kid during my generation (i.e. the "40ish" people of today), you were EITHER a geek OR doing dope. The combination was rather rare.
And it simply can't be that your kids are simply walking hormones that come without a user manual, where you have to figure out how to deal with them. So SOMETHING must be wrong here. He was always such a nice boy...
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Gamers? What about the programmers? They can't be straight.
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I have often found that when any problem is to be solved, be it creating universes from singularities, forming life from atoms, building solutions from syntax, etc. the process will benefits from an entropy gradient: Energizing and expansion, Heating then chilling, Randomizing design patterns then benchmarking, Changing strategies and sorting what works. Any who think that drugs are inherently evil and detrimental are arguing against the nature of the universe itself.
Sometimes considering every option methodically gives insight, but that is not the only way, that is not natures way. Sometimes the entropy added is natural, sometimes deliberate. Sometimes induced by the disjoint dreams of sleep. Humans are tool using creatures, and with moderation of dosage they may even use drugs as tools. A recreational chemical may give a different perspective, heighten some inherent ability, dull some pain or inhibition, or mix up the approaches to problems. A little entropy can be a good thing in a self corrective system. Without chaos there would be no order: There would be no life, only crystals; No mutation only stagnation; No adaptation only the vulnerability of the monoculture; No new discoveries only existing knowledge; No new innovations only the dark ages.
Sometimes the temporary detrimental effects of being mixed up inside are worth the resultant order that settles out from the chaos. Even the ancients knew of catharsis. Their trial by fire is yet another stress then relaxation.
I used to drink when playing Quake 2 and UT with my clan. The goal was not to get too drunk, but just enough to be a real Kamikaze. Weed also enhances creativity as many artists will confirm.
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From personal experience, drinking while programming isn't so bad, although the increasing mental and physical clumsiness will eventually become a problem. Smoking weed while programming, on the other hand, is asking for trouble. If you're a designer brainstorming before coming up with a rough design document, weed's probably an ally in many ways. Programming, though, God help you. I suppose it adversely affects the ability to base one logical proposition upon another, which is generally bad for a series of equations relying upon the results of the previous for a useful result.
While playing games it depends on the game. If it requires the same sort of sequential, analytical processes as programming then you're doomed. If it's just a twitch game with simple goals and gameplay you'll be minimally handicapped. In any case, I can't imagine being high will improve your ability to play a game; just your enjoyment of it.
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Playing stoned made them more confident. They felt like they were playing better, so they took more risks. A lot of games have systems in which risky behavior is often more greatly rewarded, but rewarded less frequently. Spelunky especially is one of those games. Tetris, however, can be much less forgiving of risky behavior, hence the lower scores there.
So I don't think this was a very good test of the effect of actual basic skills that contribute to good or bad play. I think a series of reaction time tests, memorization tests, and problem solving tests, independent from complex interactions within the game itself or the nebulous "score" would make for a better testing environment. Also, three people playing just four games, all of which are single player and most of which are puzzle games, doesn't seem like enough data to come to any useful conclusion whatsoever.
I've played with and against players who were high in competitive multiplayer games in which the high players were obviously making mistakes and playing poorly (the whole time insisting that playing high enhanced their abilities) to change my belief that playing high probably makes you worse rather than better. Especially in a multiplayer context with a group of highly skilled and experienced players, ones overconfidence can be much more directly and specifically exploited and countered. The high players were not only overconfident, but much less likely to recognize and acknowledge mistakes, leading them to repeat those mistakes or allow their opponents to capitalize on the mistakes even more frequently or severely than normal.
it's more like the recreational activity which they can engage in and stand zero risk of getting arrested, losing student loan eligibility, and being denied the opportunity for a proper job -- oh and I guess working for the FBI.
Plenty of people use cannabis and go hiking, hang out with friends and have normal lives.
Just check out /r/trees on reddit (or some similar forum), plenty of users there post "smoke spot" pictures from hiking trails and the like.
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After all, you don't even know why it was prohibited.
And how could you know that he doesn't know? Historians have written hundreds of books on the subject. It appears that your knowledge of 20th century American history is weak; you might start by reading up on this guy. He was the assistant prohibition commissioner in the Bureau of Prohibition, before being appointed as the first commissioner of the U.S. Treasury Department's Federal Bureau of Narcotics (FBN) on August 12, 1930.
He was the one behind marijuana prohibition. Books I read (granted, four decades ago) stated that there was an either real or perceived heroin problem, and since Congress wouldn't cough up more cash for his fight against heroin, so he made up the marijuana menace out of whole cloth so he could divert funds appropriated for marijuana prohibition to fighting heroin use.
At the time, about the only people who used marijuana during the '30s were blacks, Mexicans, musicians, writers, and artists, all of whom were irrelevant in politics at the time. Watch Reefer Madness, an anti "muggles" (slang for marijuana at the time) propaganda film. It's actually funny, especially if you're stoned.
One or two books I read had the Hearst family's fortune tied up in industries that competed with hemp: cotton, paper, plastics (rope), etc, but those books had no citations so were a bit suspect.
Now, here's a bit of history I lived through. I don't think I even heard of marijuana until the sixties when I was a teenager. What happened was white kids started coming back from Vietnam, where the black guys introduced the white guys to that killer Asian bud, and once home it quickly spread to other young whites.
And the anti-pot hysteria continues, despite any proof whatever that marijuana isn't the least dangerous of all psychoactive substances and even safer than many over the counter medications, such as aspirin or Tylenol (acetaminophen), the former of which can cause stomach and intestinal ulcers, the second of which can damage your liver.
The newspapers have been reporting on two people having psychotic episodes after eating huge amounts of pot, without noting that crazy people use pot, too, and one of the two had other psychoactive drugs in his system.
There was a fellow I was stationed with in the USAF who merely thought he'd been given LSD, and that was enough to trigger a psychotic episode. Crazy people are crazy, drugs or no drugs.
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