Rising Sea Levels Uncover Japanese War Dead In Marshall Islands
An anonymous reader writes "The foreign minister of the Marshall Islands says that, 'even the dead are affected' by climate change. From the article: 'Speaking at UN climate talks in Bonn, the Island's foreign minister said that high tides had exposed one grave with 26 dead. The minister said the bones were most likely those of Japanese troops. Driven by global warming, waters in this part of the Pacific have risen faster than the global average. With a high point just two metres above the waters, the Marshall Islands are one of the most vulnerable locations to changes in sea level.'"
Don't follow the lights!
Ezekiel 23:20
people are still talking about CO2 driven climate change despite all the evidence against it?
People need to reminded every now and then why a certain day every year is set aside for them to cook hamburgers and hot dogs on the grill. The Japanese died for one false god, the Allies whose bones are sure to be uncovered for another.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
How can the water level on earth rise faster in some places than in others? I would expect water to rise uniformly on the surface of a sphere (egg).
Hard to believe that a couple inches makes all that much difference. Yea, I read the article - the Marshall Islands are low and flat. But I've also seen the open Pacific Ocean, where 20 foot waves are normal. I assume bones have been washing up every year since the war; Japan lost over 17,000 soldiers during the four month battle for the two islands.
http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2014/06/07/rising-sea-levels-pacific-atolls-the-whole-story/
... I thought total it was couple centimeters.... which shouldn't be enough to uncover anything but sand crabs...
Are we sure this isn't erosion? Because that seems far more likely then sea levels changing.
I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
This AC is turning up the AC! Maybe they sould just go live on boats?
Most of the Japanese troops stationed in the Marshall Islands back in WW II were mostly from Taiwan and Korea as most of the Japanese troops were deployed in China
Not "global warming," "climate change," or any other trendy catch-phrase designed to instill fear upon a gullible public.
I really have some trouble conceiving that...
Some places on the earth naturally accumulate sand/soil from natural processes. In the Marshall Islands, it is a hurricane now and again. The sand/soil naturally subsides (sinks) into the surrounding lower-lying regions, or sometimes because of the pumping out of groundwater. Here's a description made for the southern shore of the U.S.:
http://www.agu.org/report/hurr...
When the next hurricane comes along, the graves of these soldiers will be covered again. Let this "foreign minister" flap about "global warming" all he wants: he's really just concerned about getting foreign aid for a populace trying to live on untenable land.
Global warming
Sea level has risen 7-8 inches over the past 100 years. By the year 2200, sea level is expected to rise somewhere between 4 and 30 inches. The sea level in the Pacific has not risen significantly more than on the rest of the earth.
When people exaggerate the effects of global warming, it only provides ammunition for the global warming deniers.
Zombie samulai! Blaaaaaaaaaainzzzzai!
That's the problem, all the co2 released from soda pop burps and farts.
So, its just been reported that we have been on an official global cooling trend since 2007, that no net global warming has occurred in 18 years according to RSS data, and that the last 2 years have shown net gain ice production at both poles ... but THIS sudden occurrence is due to global warming?
This is the reason we can't have a real conversation about Global Warming. It is a fact that islands sink. Little islands are commonly sinking slowly back into the ocean. This is long established, proved, and accepted. Erosion near cost lines is also well understood and a likely explanation. However, a bunch of "journalists" are using this story to promote Global Warming without ever even mentioning the most likely explanation. The resulting story gets promulgated across the internet because if fits a theme, that is popular and the media likes. This is simply unacceptable from a side that likes to claim "science" at every turn.
Clearly fake because global climate change is a hoax. Either this is made up, or there is another more reasonable explanation. The earth could be settling, erosion, storms. Science has nothing on my opinions!
If you're going to be a smug fuckface, at least be correct about what you're saying. I hope some mods come and get rid of your "2, Insightful". Your comment is total nonsense. It should be at "-1, Totally Idiotic".
Sea level is not constant nor consistent across different bodies of water. The oceanic sea level can vary greatly from the sea level of isolated bodies of water like the Caspian Sea or the Dead Sea. Since the sea level threshold is defined relative to the oceanic sea level, we end up having the Dead Sea be completely above sea level, while the Caspian Sea lies completely below it. Changes in the oceanic sea level can happen independently of the sea levels of those particular bodies of water.
...Why do the Marshall Islands have a yearly rise increase almost 4 times the world average? Is it a low pressure zone? Are there Marshall Island glaciers that no one has discovered yet? How much has the sea level risen in the Marshall Islands since WWII. There is a lot of information missing from this story, and it reeks of politics and money.
But China and India point fingers at the USA, the leader of the World (for now), and say, "Why don't YOU do something about it! Otherwise, put up or shut up!"
So, that's what Obama did - he put up.
And being a geeks, we will never see a Star Trek type of World if we insist on clinging to ancient fuels and technology. They are past due. They are inefficient, polluting and have no redeeming quality other than being cheap on the surface.
No one considers the costs from the health impact from the air pollution, the costs to the ecosystem and water sheds down river from mining and usage (see Assholes at Duke Power), and the damage from all the mercury that is spewed out of coal plants which then gets into our food supply - where do you think all that mercury in your Tuna, Shark, Swordfish .... comes from?
Although, the Chinese do realize the health consequences and the finite supply of fossil fuels and that's why they are LEADING in green energy.
Yep, the Chinese are ahead of us.
Remember that when green energy becomes cheaper than fossil fuels and China is just kicking our ignorant asses economically, scientifically, and socially.
all that strong but the evidence for the enhancement of the CO2 warming (for this to be anything but a big advantage for nature) is very weak indeed. It is scary that we are wrecking the economies of the west while the dictatorships are having our lunch. If people would like to to see how science fails, do have a look at the fiasco of cholesterol research and how literally, the American Heart Association is killing people for the funding it gets by selling its logo to companies still trading in cholesterol level lowering products which is known to make heart disease worse and increase mortality. It is absolutely horrible. Another consensus driven research. All peer reviewed and payed for but the drug companies. And it is still going on.
They are still going on about climate change? I thought that pointless fad was pretty much dead, I suppose as long as there are people whose funding depends on, people will still keep going on about it as if it's a thing
Seriously, just die. Here is why: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/06/04/the-pause-continues-still-no-global-warming-for-17-years-9-months/
Unfortunately religious fanatics do not disappear nor change their opinions easily when facts prove them wrong.
Or else the gods will punish us all and defile our dead.
Do not question, simply obey.
will erode and slump. This is such a basic bit of science and engineering that EVERYBODY used to understand it. If you build a house on a beach or on a cliff overlooking the sea, it will eventually get destroyed and washed-away... denying this is like insisting the Earth is flat. ANYBODY surprised that people buried near sea-level by the beach on an island in the Pacific Ocean would eventually be exposed by the surf is an idiot.
SHEEEESH! What's HAPPENED to basic science education in the years since we kicked God out of the schools! We took down the pictures of Jesus and the postings of the Ten Commandments, we renamed Easter to "spring break" and Christmas to "winter break", got rid of the Christmas Carols, re-defined Thanksgiving from "giving thanks to God for his blessings" to "saying thanks to each-other" and our kides were all supposed to become good little junior-Einsteins.
yeah, I'm poking at all you guys who think "religious" people are "anti-science" and that anybody resisting the imposition of YOUR philosophies is ruining science in the schools... American kids had a far better grasp of basic science and more interest in studying it when the nation was far more religious.
So let's make an already emotionally charged subject even more charged, to see if we can get even more of the same people shouting the same opposing points at each other, and neither side bothering to listen to the other.
Murphy was an optimist
If water rose uniformly, then there would be no need for ship locks.
Since we had to design and implement ship locks, perhaps your foundational premise is flawed?