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Civilization V Officially Available On Linux For SteamOS
jrepin (667425) writes "Aspyr Media, in partnership with 2K and Firaxis Games, announced that the critically acclaimed Sid Meier's Civilization V, and all available expansion packs and downloadable content, is now available on Linux for SteamOS. The title includes Steam Play support. This release of Sid Meier's Civilization V on Linux targets SteamOS and features support for Valve's upcoming Steam Controller."
Available on regular linux steam client, not just the SteamOS distro. I've already got it running under Ubuntu, runs nice and smooth.
Great ... now can I run a freaking stand alone pit boss server that DOESN'T require logging into my steam account ... effectively making it so my option is to run a server or play the game but unable to actually run a server AND play a game?
A large multiple game of Civ takes weeks at best when you're an adult with jobs, a wife, kids and other bits of the real world, Pitboss is worthless if it still requires being logged into a steam account to use it.
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They have a remote install option. So, by the time you get home the thing will be ready and waiting for you.
It is a monstrous download...
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Well, my biggest time waster is now on Linux, without having to fiddle with WINE or anything. I guess I can now relegate this commercial OS to a seldom used secondary partition. Woot!
Also:
http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/06/10/sid-meiers-civilization-v-now-available-for-steamos-and-linux/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/06/11/civilization-5-linux/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rockpapershotgun%2Fsteam+(Rock%2C+Paper%2C+Shotgun%3A+Steam+RSS)
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Oh this is great, one more game I can play without rebooting into Windows. Now I need to cut out from work early to play. :)
Simple. If you don't want to support DRM, use GOG.com. They are planning to add Linux games this fall.
Is Steam stopping me from playing the games I purchased? No? Then I don't really care. Steam doesn't get in my way, and is quite convenient for installing a game on multiple computers (plus I don't have to keep track of disks). Find something worth complaining about.
I'm starting to think GNU is the problem with "GNU/Linux" these days.
Yeah I have it running on my Fedora install of Steam and it runs great.
Is Steam stopping me from playing the games I purchased? No? Then I don't really care. Steam doesn't get in my way, and is quite convenient for installing a game on multiple computers (plus I don't have to keep track of disks). Find something worth complaining about.
Yes Steam is probably the best, most consumer-friendly DRM distribution system around, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't care at all. Unless you are happy having all your games rendered unplayable if Steam goes offline / Valve goes out of business. In the scale of a year that's unlikely, but in 10? 50? Quite apart from the legitimate short-term disadvantages, I think in 50 years we will look back on this period of time in the same way we view the lack of archiving of television in the mid-20th century, as a massive unnecessary black hole in our cultural history.
All but one (heavily multiplayer-centric) of my steam games currently work if steam is in "offline" mode, and most steam linux games run fine without even launching the steam client.
I think in 50 years we will look back on this period of time in the same way we view the lack of archiving of television in the mid-20th century, as a massive unnecessary black hole in our cultural history.
I doubt it. Missing recordings cannot be recovered from. DRM can be cracked, generally trivially.
Nearly every Steam game release is instantly cracked by the pirate community. If you want your games forever, no matter what, just save the crack along with your Steam backups.
Is Steam stopping me from playing the games I purchased? No?
YES it bloody well HAS stopped me from playing the games I purchased.
Specifically on roadtrips. It's finally someone else's turn to drive, I whip out the laptop to do something. I go to launch a game I haven't played in a while and GUESS WHAT?
No internet connection means no launching.
I hear they're getting better about this. And Valve and Steam are probably the best, least intrusive, most palpitate form on DRM currently out there. And there's some value with being able to download your game library on whatever computer. And they're setting up a system to allow family to borrow games. And their push for Linux is good for the industry. All good stuff.
But don't pretend that the DRM found in steam is painless and doesn't get in people's way. If you're always online, then sure, it probably works great for you.
I doubt it. Missing recordings cannot be recovered from. DRM can be cracked, generally trivially.
I wouldn't be so blase. Perhaps right now, but not always. And just because DRM can be hacked, doesn't mean it has been hacked for the thing that you want. *And* I don't see a widespread failure in Steam DRM, so why would we assume that it can be cracked so trivially?
Yup, all my Commodore 64 games are stored with their cracks on handy 5.25" disks.
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No you're totally right. Today's DRM is impenetrable and will hold strong for a thousand years. And all those content creators I'm sure will maintain the DRM for centuries and both abandon their products and fight piracy of them at the same time.
There is no memory shortage. yes I have heard of XFCE. Go away.
Several Linux users are reporting audio issues. The initial movies play audio properly but then the sound of the game is pretty bad. Running Ubuntu 14.04 x64, I was able to resolve all sound issues by doing the following:
1. Typed: sudo nano /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
2. Found and changed the following parameters:
A. default-fragments = 5
B. default-fragment-size-msec = 2
3. Saved file (Ctrl + O), Exited (Ctrl + X)
4. Typed: pulseaudio -k
5. Launched Civ 5, no audio issues now.
I've posted the same on the Steam forums.
Steam distributes and sells non-DRM protected games. Steam is not DRM, steam is a service that sells games like GoG, but unlike GoG it supports DRM-protected games and provides its own not so invasive DRM for companies that don't want to use other, more intrusive, DRM alternatives. If steam did not provide this kind of DRM more companies would want to push their own, broken DRM (like ubisoft does with uplay).
Really, this isn't much different than Firefox support DRM video. Who knows, maybe in a few decades there will be no more DRM protected media, but until then Steam is the most sane option that we have available.
He attributed his source, so it doesn't matter either way.
It's no longer plagarism at that point.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Is Steam stopping me from playing the games I purchased? No? Then I don't really care. Steam doesn't get in my way, and is quite convenient for installing a game on multiple computers (plus I don't have to keep track of disks). Find something worth complaining about.
Yes Steam is probably the best, most consumer-friendly DRM distribution system around, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't care at all. Unless you are happy having all your games rendered unplayable if Steam goes offline / Valve goes out of business. In the scale of a year that's unlikely, but in 10? 50? Quite apart from the legitimate short-term disadvantages, I think in 50 years we will look back on this period of time in the same way we view the lack of archiving of television in the mid-20th century, as a massive unnecessary black hole in our cultural history.
Worse, you run the risk of having all your Steam games unplayable if they accuse you of cheating. If they do that, you have no legal recourse. Also, you run the risk of having your EULA for all your games altered. Your option, should you not want the new terms, is to close your Steam account and lose access to all your purchases.
The second one is the deal breaker for me. I do not go an buy something and agree that they can take it away from me whenever they want and I can do nothing about it. That's just a really stupid deal to make. If they don't plan on doing it, then why make you agree to it? That's really scummy.
Steam is DRM. If I launch game A on machine A, then attempt to launch game B on machine B, can I? Last I tried, I couldn't.
You can launch a non-DRM protected steam game from outside steam on as many machines as you have it installed.
Speaking as someone who watched TV in the mid-20th century, there wasn't much there that was really worth the trouble of remembering.
And there was quite a bit that suggested making active efforts to forget...
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I saw the announcement yesterday afternoon, and found it listed already in my available games (since I had previously purchased it for Windows, under WINE).
It works wonderfully under Linux: it's faster, uses less resources, and doesn't crash nearly as often as it did under WINE.
I'm extremely happy, as this was one of the few reasons I still have a WINE install in place.
So now I can spend another 3700 hours on the game on lightweight hardware. w00t!
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That's nice. Can I do that without Steam running? I want to protect against the case of them changing the EULA terms and I disagree to the changes and don't want to just close my account and lose access to these games. Like, can I basically use Steam to download my game, delete Steam and keep my games working?
Is Steam stopping me from playing the games I purchased? No? Then I don't really care. Steam doesn't get in my way, and is quite convenient for installing a game on multiple computers (plus I don't have to keep track of disks). Find something worth complaining about.
Yes Steam is probably the best, most consumer-friendly DRM distribution system around, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't care at all. Unless you are happy having all your games rendered unplayable if Steam goes offline / Valve goes out of business. In the scale of a year that's unlikely, but in 10? 50? Quite apart from the legitimate short-term disadvantages, I think in 50 years we will look back on this period of time in the same way we view the lack of archiving of television in the mid-20th century, as a massive unnecessary black hole in our cultural history.
In 50 years, I highly doubt you'd wish to come down from whatever advanced technology we will have to play games on x86 architecture, any more than I have a desire to dust off my Atari VCS and play pong.
I believe you can, as long as the game does not use the steam DRM or its own DRM that depends on steam being running. If the game uses steamworks for some kind of feature either that specific feature will not work, the game will crash when you try to use it, or the game will crash when you try to launch it.
A quick google search yielded these two lists of games that can be bought on steam and played without it:
http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/T...
http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/Li...
I doubt it. Missing recordings cannot be recovered from. DRM can be cracked, generally trivially.
Which is why more and more of the essential code goes to live on their servers, not your client. Photos, audio and video are "trivial" in the sense that if you capture the output you're done. Applications and games? It's a cat and mouse game but if "always online single player" wins I think DRM does too.
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That's helpful. Thank you.
Steam is a digital software store which mostly sells games. If they come with DRM or not depends on the wishes of the game studios who put the game there to begin with.
Yeah they do have their own DRM scheme but they don't force game studios to use it.
Even without Linux support a lot of the games they sell are old DOS based games that run just fine on DOSBox or ScummVM.
I quite like pong. It's a good party game. And we still watch old films... games are at a stage now that we can consider them legitimate, lasting pieces of entertainment, I have no doubt that they are starting to solidify. Tetris is 30 years old, it's still fun.
A) Steam as taken that into account and can remove DRM if they go out of business
B) Every one of those games is available via some sort of download mechanism. I won't bat an eye at downloading a game I already purchased.
C) Many of the games today require steam in order to install. So if you have those disks, but Steam is shut down, it won't exactly do you any good. On the other hand, if I have downloaded it, and Valve turns off the steam DRM I'll be able to play.
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Look harder. I can download many 'Steam Only' games and play wihtout steam becasue they have been cracked. And you don't need to crack the encryption, only have the OS skip the check, or be fed a false positive.
So, a good hex editor and time and you will be good to go.
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the second one applies to all games, regardless if they use steam or not.
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and you can get 'pong' pretty much everywhere. Same with 'Tetris'
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Aspyr Media inflicts Civ V on Linux users!
When asked for commit, the CEO simple said:"MUAAAHahahahha".
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And I'm glad they've thought about this. Though how much we can believe that will happen in the carcrash that is typical for a collapsing business, it's harder to say. How will they distribute the updates if all the assets are seized? Who will do the work necessary on their back catalogue of 1000s if the employees aren't paid and have left?
and you can get 'pong' pretty much everywhere. Same with 'Tetris'
*Sigh*. Yes. Simple games that are easy to replicate. My point is that old games are still wanted, and in demand. Obviously I have no 30 year old games with complicated mechanics and huge numbers of art assets to use as examples, but in 30 years we will have those and no amount of technology is going to make those things easily replicatable.
the second one applies to all games, regardless if they use steam or not.
Claiming all makes this easy to refute: Baldur's Gate. If they were to change to EULA, it would not prevent me playing the game if I were to not accept the changes.
You have to have a game installed and launched at least once before you can play it in Offline mode. Meaning you can't play your backuped games until you have Internet again. There also was the issue that you couldn't play games that are in the mid of a patching, but I think Steam fixed that a few month ago with their changes to the way downloading works.
Valid point. Dependency on an external service under exclusive control of the publisher does introduce a real risk of eventual 'death'
....adequately fill up all the shortcomings of Civilizations - no matter which one?
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