How Vacuum Tubes, New Technology Might Save Moore's Law
MojoKid (1002251) writes The transistor is one of the most profound innovations in all of human existence. First discovered in 1947, it has scaled like no advance in human history; we can pack billions of transistors into complicated processors smaller than your thumbnail. After decades of innovation, however, the transistor has faltered. Clock speeds stalled in 2005 and the 20nm process node is set to be more expensive than the 28nm node was for the first time ever. Now, researchers at NASA believe they may have discovered a way to kickstart transistors again — by using technology from the earliest days of computing: The vacuum tube. It turns out that when you shrink a Vacuum transistor to absolutely tiny dimensions, you can recover some of the benefits of a vacuum tube and dodge the negatives that characterized their usage. According to a report, vacuum transistors can draw electrons across the gate without needing a physical connection between them. Make the vacuum area small enough, and reduce the voltage sufficiently, and the field emission effect allows the transistor to fire electrons across the gap without containing enough energy to energize the helium inside the nominal "vacuum" transistor. According to researchers, they've managed to build a successful transistor operating at 460GHz — well into the so-called Terahertz Gap, which sits between microwaves and infrared energy.
As a 450GHz computing element, this is a long way off. But it might lead to better terahertz radar. Right now, operating in the terahertz range is painfully difficult. It's a strange region where both electronics and optics work, but not easily. This may be a more effective way to work in that range.
but that with increasing clock speed the size of your chip is limited (as electricity can only travel that far in a given amount of time) -> can't keep your chip synchronized -> need to think of new ways how to sync everything / if there are alternatives.
I work in a lab where we make radio receivers that work at frequencies around 460 GHz. As it is, we have to use a mixer diode to convert to a lower frequency (10 GHz) before amplifying the signal. This technology would be well suited to this application, provided that the noise is low enough. We already cool the mixer to 4K in a vacuum chamber.
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So in the future, you'll know your electronics are broken when magic smoke is sucked into the chip?
You can never know everything, and part of what you do know will always be wrong. Perhaps even the most important part.
Stick her in front of a mike then tell her no more drugs and press record. That would have got you pretty close to that frequency range.
Should this type of component be known as an "valvistor"?
They really are. The US government has been selling off reserves for below-production-cost for some time, causing prices to be artificially low.
"It was a nice feeling to have a Microvac of your own and Jerrodd was glad he was part of his generation and no other. In his father's youth, the only computers had been tremendous machines taking up a hundred square miles of land. There was only one to a planet. Planetary ACs they were called. They had been growing in size steadily for a thousand years and then, all at once, came refinement. In place of transistors had come molecular valves so that even the largest Planetary AC could be put into a space only half the volume of a spaceship."
- Issac Asimov, The Last Question, 1956.
This looks like the ideal technology for electronics that have to work in extremes of temperatures or high radiation environments. I'm surprised the military and aerospace industries aren't jumping all over this.
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Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. I'm uncertain...
Intel has an insanely high Gross Profit Margin of 75%. That is the opposite of selling at a loss.
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Natural things and phenomena are "discovered". Transistors were invented after a lot of hard work. By engineers.
Gus Fring trumps Heisenberg.
Astrophysicists say no.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
A law needs to stand on it's own with out the need for external help, if Moores law break then it's not a law.
I'm not an economist, but there seems to be an easy explanation for that: If the CPU cost is only a fraction of the total system cost, not even progressive pricing of the CPUs decreases the complete system's price/performance ratio to an appreciable extent. That would mean that Intel can manufacture CPUs that are somewhat (though not vastly) faster than AMD CPUs at a considerably higher price and with large profit margins while still outselling AMD even in areas where AMD has better prices for individual components.
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the net profit margin of 15.12% trails the industry average.
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All we need to do is figure out how to mine the Sun and we'll have all the helium we could ever want.
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You sound like an Intel engineer back when the Pentium 4 CPU's NetBurst architecture was the next big thing. Yes, pipelining exists. Yes, branches stall it. Yes, the processor ends up forfeiting a lot of work (and a lot of power and heat) when it mispredicts a branch. There's a reason Intel decided to base the Core architecture on P6 (Pentium II/III family) rather than NetBurst.
Actually making the chips is wildly cheap (always has been). They make a few thousand at a crack. It is all the other goop that goes along with chips that makes them expensive. If you read the original paper you will see Moore spends a good amount of time talking about packaging.
Testin, the package, pins, interconnects to the pins, wires to connect to other chips, the connectors, someone to glue it all together, etc...
The less chips you use the cheaper it is to make something. That is why moores law works. As instead of working with 50 chips you are working with 5 a 10x reduction in cost.
It works all the way up until you have SoC. At that point it becomes about your cost to make the single chip. Which includes more significantly the process to make the chip. As all the interconnects are gone, the other chips are gone, pins are gone, etc...
So at some point you would see inversions. Where it costs to make one chip more than the previous generation. Yet it is still cheaper because there are less things to put on the motherboard.
This is part of the reason ARM chips dominate currently. They spent 25 years getting into cell phones. Where size matters. SoC is king. Intel will have to get bellow the cost of ARM SoC to remain competitive in that area.
# of chips is what moores law is about. Size is the key to get you less chips and less crap outside of the chip to put together. Speed just came along for the ride.