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Emma Watson Leaked Photo Threat Was a Plot To Attack 4chan
ideonexus writes: After Emma Watson gave a speech on the need for feminism (video) to the United Nations, 4chan users threatened to release nude photos of the Harry Potter star in retaliation, setting up the emmayouarenext.com website with a countdown clock. Now it has been revealed that the site was an elaborate hoax intended publicize a movement to shut down 4chan.
You're gonna need to provide some facts and numbers for that absurd claim.
Otherwise we assume you're not taking your crazy meds.
pretty much the whole western world where the vast majority of women nearly always get equal or preferential treatment.
FYI, the debate is about turning "vast majority" to "all" and removing the "nearly".
You know, otherwise it's like having: ...
Right to self-determination on most cases.
Right to liberty, usually.
Right to due process of law, for the vast majority.
Right to freedom of movement, in almost all circumstances.
Right to freedom of thought, except when it's inconvenient.
Maybe you could post some fact or numbers too? Remember, we're talking about opportunities not outcomes.
FYI, the debate is about turning "vast majority" to "all" and removing the "nearly".
So you admit that it's all about tinkering round the edges, not achieving some paradigm shift or anything major, then. Frankly, not really UN material.
You know, otherwise it's like having: ...
Right to self-determination on most cases.
Right to liberty, usually.
Right to due process of law, for the vast majority.
Right to freedom of movement, in almost all circumstances.
Right to freedom of thought, except when it's inconvenient.
In practice, that's pretty much all anyone gets.
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Sticking to what we can actually measure and not some airy, hand-wavey idea of what constitutes an opportunity, skills-matched cohorts of male and female employees show a wage and career security discrepancy in favour of men in almost any study you care to mention. That discrepancy skirts zero a but it conspicuously never flips around the other side.
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
Have you ever considered that many women often choose being a mother instead of focusing on a demanding career?
Also, in other categories where men get the short end of the stick statistically, do you automatically assume its because of some big conspiracy?
Maybe it was an elaborate hoax to publicize 4chan by publicizing an elaborate hoax to attack 4cahn.
I'm sorry but you clearly don't have even the first bit of experience in the field if that's what you believe.
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
If only there was some sort of cultural moment dedicated to changing the perception and social role of women. We could call it "feminism".
(Improved childcare opportunities are one of the great equality demands in the sciences right now. You're on a different side than you realise.)
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
So you want women to always "get equal or preferential treatment"? Since women do get preferential treatment in many areas, that isn't a campaign for equalitiy, it's a campaign for treating men worse than women.
Most of the feminist agenda these days isn't about government discrimination, it is about private conduct. So, the positions you mock are actually pretty much the positions feminists take: right to self-determination in most cases (except when it interferes with feminist notions of equality), right to liberty usually (except when we need to restrict it in order to achieve feminist goals), right to due process (except when rape, harassment, or other crimes feminists care about are involved), freedom of though except if it is inconvenient (because people don't believe what feminists believe).
That sounds like a most of activists groups to me.
My view is common sense. If you disagree with me you must be influenced by some sort dark forces.
It should be obvious that my view is right, so there must be some force preventing you from understanding that.
Those democrats are being paid off by George Soros and fed misinformation from GE who owns MSNBC, those Republicans must be paid off by the Koch brothers and fed misinformation from News Corp who owns FoxNews.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
You don't get it. The biggest problem is that women pressure other women to settle for less careerwise in order to put a priority on getting married and having a family. Mothers are the worst at this as they want grand babies.
Look, the fact is that the lost opportunities are self inflicted. You and other women need to change the culture among women.
You can't really believe that every single man who believes in "Men's Rights" is "dedicated to opposing introspection and protecting established norms at all costs."?
That's like believing that all women who are feminists believe 90% of men should be phased out.
Get some perspective.
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Shit better not happen!
Especially since 4chan now seems to have more censorship than ever and new clones have been appearing with less censorship. Seems to me that 4chan is already dying.
Either you have censorship on a site or you will have sites with questionable content that nobody really believes in. The trolls will find new forums and channels. Lately there's an app for mobile phones called Secret that has been used for questionable activities.
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
False. Completely false. Why do you persist in this nonsense?
Women, in the same career field as a man, almost always makes less. They only place it's close is in a wage controlled environments. Where a person doing X classification makes the same by contract. Even in those case women rise through the class slower then men.
This is a real problem. Why does this scare you? Probably for the same reason a woman wanting for all people to be equally made people on 4chan angry.
Did you listen to her speech? She talks about men and women.
She also talks about inequality men face as well as women.
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Or that she didn't have any interest in giving some random jackasses attention.
The phenomenon obviously exists, but why do you attach such negativity to it? Without babies the humanity will cease to exist pretty soon no matter how successful "freed" women are at their other pursuits.
And pregnancy — and subsequent child-rearing — do cost women professionally. Not because anybody is "sexist", but simply because you can not give a promising assignment to an employee, who just is not there (because she is on maternity leave).
Some women may view this as unfortunate, others — as a privilege, but whatever you feel about it, there is no one to blame for it any more, than we can prosecute someone for gravity...
Maybe, some day, we'll have incubation centers freeing women from the need to carry the burden for months. But I'm not very optimistic, given that we are yet to solve even the much simpler problem of breast-feeding.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
False. Completely false. Why do you persist in this nonsense? Women, in the same career field as a man, almost always makes less. They only place it's close is in a wage controlled environments. Where a person doing X classification makes the same by contract. Even in those case women rise through the class slower then men. This is a real problem. Why does this scare you?.
This is just not true. Once you factor in time & effort on the job, the gap nearly closes. Women choose to place domestic priorities higher than men. Why does this scare you?
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The 4chan crowd ain't known for its ability to take stuff like that lightly. If I was that marketing company, I'd make sure my servers are hardened against any kind of onslaught.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
shutdown 4chan and leaked photos no longer have a place to live on the internet? news flash little miss Granger celeb nudes leaked used to round the world via dial up modem on BBS', when a hot slut is dumb enough to let her nudies get out, they will find a way.
That she didn't call their bluff...
Means that she probably did take some nudies at some point.
She is not obliged to call anyone's bluff.
Not everyone has a mind as adolescent as the geek who mods up craptastic sexist comments like yours as "Interesting."
False. Completely false. Why do you persist in this nonsense?
Women, in the same career field as a man, almost always makes less....
I've heard this a lot, and have seen a lot of statistics that show both ways, depending on the data view and metrics considered. But there seems to be a stronger opinion for the side that you mention in the quote above, at least in the public eye. So, and I really do want to know: If this was true, why don't multinational or traded companies only hire women? If a woman can preform as well or better than a man, and almost always makes less, then it would be folly for any board not to hire only women. Reducing the labor expense by 10-20%+ while maintaining the same productivity would put any large company way out in front competitively.
It's this simple question that makes me think that it's actually more complex than that, and that the versions of the reports showing it are ignoring non-gender factors. (hours worked in a week, time off for children, etc)
Because that's what discrimination is....treating someone differently not based on their qualifications (or cost effectiveness in this case), but on factors that the individual has no control over.
You really needed someone to point this out to you?!?
Here at Slashdot most of us have realized that not all bachelor's degrees are created equal. A bachelor of science and a bachelor of arts may be the same "education level" but they are not the same education nor do they qualify you for the same jobs and definitely not the same pay.
Be careful of that broad brush you're painting with. My girlfriend is a feminist. She has exactly the same issues with what she considers a vocal minority within the feminist movement (much like the "all penis-in-vagina-sex-is-rape" crowd) that Emma has. What's the point of giving women empowerment over their own bodies if you're going to turn right around and shame back into a niqab? It's lunacy. Mainstream feminism, as opposed to the Fox News sensationalist headlines feminism, isn't about what *you* think it is. It's a tired trope, but the loudest 2-3% gets all the press for just about any group you can think of, and that 2-3% is generally batshit crazy.
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More than 19 out of 20 people killed on the job in America are men - are we interested in squaring that up as well?
problem is, most of the folks interested in doing such a study would have such confirmation bias to begin with, you wouldn't get a reliable study. :)
First they attack the gamers with the whole gamergate thing. All of which was shown to be a scam by political elements using every dirty trick they could think of to get power... literally sleeping with people to gain influence... extortion... bribery... baiting people to attack them and then playing the victim.
Second, they go after 4chan which while a wretched hive of scum and villainy is hardly worth a national campaign.
I mean seriously... wtf? Who the fuck are these people are do they really want to the nerd culture to respond in kind? Because... if they want to be stalked... we have stalkers... we have people that can trace all their silly little stories back to the roots... keep spreadsheets on all their activities... and cross reference all claims. Do they really want to start a fight with millions of aspi under employed men? It just seems like pissing on a bee hive.
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