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GNOME 3.14 Released
An anonymous reader writes "GNOME 3.14 was released today and it includes some interesting changes such as re-worked default theme, multi-touch gestures for both the system and applications, and new animations. Information including details on all the new features can be found here."
There's still an inordinate amount of padding on everything. It maks my screen feel like 800x600.
On top of that, gnome have an activity bar and each application a window decoration bar and then a menu bar. When running a maximized program, the bars are placed directly under each other and good chunk of the upper screen is wasted.
The activity bar still does nothing and the window decoration bar typically has a single close button. It's a gigantic waste of space.
Since this is GNOME, does anybody have a link to the official list of features that have been removed from this version?
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What about SUPER t, e, r, ENTER?
OR, you could:
1) move mouse to upper left corner
2) click the thingy
3) type "ter"
4) hit enter
You can even skip 1 and 2 by pushing your windows (or whatever you want to call it) button, which acts like the upper corner thingy.
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If you're going to "change the runlevel to a non graphical startup", you probably know already to hit ctrl-alt-f1 to switch to a VT console, or maybe alt-f2 (then launch xterm) as somewhat of a standard in older gnome and other desktop environments?
That'd be easier than finding the terminal in Mac OS X.
By the way, I once had trouble finding the terminal in Unity. I don't know what the executable's name is. But xterm is always there, so I could type "xterm" somewhere and have it launched.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with Gnome and everything to do with your DISTRO.
Also most (all) distro's have a single user mode that runs graphics free, login to that and configure to your hearts content.
Your comment seems to be fishing for a +5 Insightful but you're -1 Troll.
4 keys too many
ctrl alt t
It's optimized for viewing Slashdot Beta (between the two interfaces you get about 3 words per page).
No. You have to recite pi to 100 decimal places.
The complaint is not that it's hard to find. It's that it takes forever to launch. It's a valid complaint, because it does that. I could open a terminal faster in 1992
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It's so easy to use, no wonder it's number 1! You just point....and click! No wait..that's not it! damn!
3.14 sounds like a pi-in-the-sky release.
"Re-worked default theme" sounds like they're just going 'round in circles.
"New animations" are hardly a sine of great progress, 'cos they sound tangential to real progress, which really hertz.
I'll wait for 6.28.
And for your convenience gnome 3 removed the partial matches from the alt + f2 window. So much more elegant without all those pesky icons showing up. Also, good luck remembering what the the true name of the calculator is!
Most of the devs are still hte same people who made GNOME 2. There are no 'hipsters'. Let me add this little tidbit: SLED/SLES changed their default DE to GNOME. It's right there in the GNOME press release. You know why? Because more people are using GNOME than KDE. Here is something else, according to some folks within suse, opensuse also has more GNOME 3 users than other DEs, but they decided not to piss anybody off and didn't change the default. GNOME now has a full sweep of all the major distro except Ubuntu. Basically, people are finding that more poeple use GNOME than anything else on at least SLED/SLES and opensuse.
I bet I could open it faster than fvwm or twm. GNOME 3.14 is even faster now than 3.12 when it comes to doing those overview searches.
That's exactly what it is.
"Super" key then type ter and hit enter. Exactly same number of keys and no mouse required.
Recent GNOME 3.xx are actually quite accessible and keyboard friendly. Most haters here hate just to ride on the 'leet bandwagon.
GNOME suffers from the same affliction as systemd and pulse audio before it...lots of prejudice because it was too crappy or weird when they first came out but are much improved over time. Kind of like people who still think Hyundai cars are junk because their 1985 Pony died on the road all the time, but nowadays Hyundai is as good or better than Toyota.
Some people will never like GNOME 3.xx that's OK, just a matter of taste really. Power users obviously frustrated at lack of tweakability and advanced stuff being hidden, But in my experience it is presently the best desktop by far for beginner and casual computer users. Mum and Dad learned their way around it faster than Windows or Mas OS X, seriously!
everytime a new version of Gnome comes out, you find even more things are forced upon you that you can't change... I got pissed off when the screensaver wouldn't let me change the directory path for my screensaver images that I wanted it to automatically use...
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Bonobos spend most of their time fucking. Do you have a problem with tbat?
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It's certainly made for both desktops and laptops. That's how most people use it, claiming anything else is just ridiculous. I'm sure a lot of people would love to see Gnome running on a tablet, but we're not there yet in terms of hardware.
does anyone even use that rubbish? Did they all of a sudden start listening to what users wanted and needed?
Yes. A lot of people use Gnome. Maybe not all of /. readers, but we are hardly representative.
Why bother installing the dist at all if you don't like what it does?
The Gnome environment has a direction. One that does not interest me. Things like "multitouch" are clearly not important to me, but all three users using Gnome on their tablets might care. I am even more surprised to see the new "Weather app" up in the list of exciting new features. The hours I spend daily looking at the weather forecast will now be much more pleasurable.
Anyway, I really want to like Gnome but don't see anything that matters to me. Linux Mint and the Cinnamon environment seem more suited to my needs and, I suspect, to the needs of the "typical" linux user. In a parallel universe where Apple fans decide to use Linux, Gnome will be there for them.
Oh noes, Gnome is losing the ever important "So alcoholic they have always have a beer and bottle opener within seconds reach" market.
If you're such a slow typist, perhaps a terminal is not for you.
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Especially when you have a lot of virtual desktops and a lot of windows. I use a fixed array of 8*6 virtual desktop where I statically organize the multiple projects I work on. Very easy to setup with MATE. Same goal impossible to archive with Gnome because the virtual desktops are organized dynamically. With MATE I can switch very quickly to the virtual desktop I want because there position are fixed and my brain can learn a corresponding map of them. I don't even have to think about how to go to the right virtual desktop, it's so easy that it's almost a reflex. No animation make the switch fast and without visual fatigue.
The whole Gnome3 UI concept look completely ridicule on a 4K screen. It wast all the space so efficiently that it make my new 4K screen look like the old 1080p one. Whit MATE you really enjoy more available space.
Finally a strongly hate the upper corner hook trick that wast time to randomly move all windows out there in a unpredictable position. It broke the static mapping I have in my brain and distract me from my work. On a 4K screen the MATE the top and bottom tiny bars take almost no place and provides direct access to applications menu and windows list without useless animation that broke the actual layout.
I don't need a UI for a smartphone on my desktop as I don't need a UI for a desktop on a smartphone !
Please help MATE to integrate systemd so I can be the default desktop on Debian.
Is it a failure, or is it just that you don't like it? A lot of people use Gnome 3 every day on all kinds of desktops and laptops. Yes it's different and if you want Gnome 2 you will have to look at something like Mate or Xfce. But a lot of people use it and like it.
The comment on "multi-touch" tells me all I need to know about this release: it's targetted at touch screens.
Not "normal" desktops.
No wonder Gnome 3 sucks so heinously. It's the Linux version of Windows 8.
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Well, no. Todays welfare state is a large positive consequence of Count Otto von Bismark being one smart fucker.
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Because more people are using GNOME than KDE. Here is something else, according to some folks within suse, opensuse also has more GNOME 3 users than other DEs
Where are you getting these statistics from? Are you just extrapolating from assumptions like: Will not change the default desktop?
I would be more interested in seeing what the repositories are reporting concerning updates... but even that will not be accurate because sometimes I leave stuff installed for testing purposes... and I am sure others, for their own reasons, leave stuff installed too despite using something else.
For myself, I consider Gnome to be of the same type of evil as SystemD. The developers are utterly infatuated with their own ideas and incapable of understanding that their ideas are just not that good, despite solving some very real problems.
Honestly, I am unsure why I am even commenting. As a former Gnome user, I feel glad that someone wrote some decent software that I could use but I am not forced to use Gnome... so I will do what I will do, and that is not use Gnome now. I am rather angry about SystemD though. THAT is getting foisted upon me whether I like it or not. It is entirely possible that if distros do not fight against SystemD that it may very well kill Linux. SystemD makes Linux as reliable as the toy operating system called Microsoft Windows.
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Ctrl-alt-T is actually pretty hard on fingers. I personnally set the most used shortcuts to Ctrl-Alt-A (Browser) and Ctrl-Alt-Q (Terminal) which I find the most comfortable for my right hand.
I just tried Gnome 3.12.2 from a freshly updated Debian jessie and no, there is still nothing configurable at all on that desktop. This is the big major difference from MATE and XFCE4 where everything is configurable by just a right click on the widget you want to change. On Gnome 3, even after years of complain, there is still absolutely nothing configurable at all.
So sorry, your claim is false: there is no option to disable dynamic workspaces and there is no option to disable top-left corner gesture. I have found 3 way to start the Preferences application (from the user menu top-right, from the application icon bottom-left, from a right click on the background). None allow to configure what you claim.
And finding an application is still a nightmare. Still the same nonsense of having to go to the top-left activity menu, but warning, be precise because the top-left corner is just a few pixel away. On a 4K display this is just a torture to not hit the top-left corner when you wants to click on the top-left activity menu. Still, the activity menu is in fact not a menu but a vertical bar with few big ugly icons of something I rarely use, not even a web browser.... I have no clue how there chose to display those useless icons. Still have to got to the bottom-left of the screen (from the top-left of the screen, try that on a 4K resolution) to click on the application array. But why ? This array use so big icons that only a few of then are displayed. Might be on purpose, because there are very very few applications on the full array anyway compared of all the application available on the system from the MATE application menu. Still no categories ? I have no clue about how look the icons of the applications I wants and the text is not only ridiculously small but cropped !!!! Yes, on a 4K display will 3840 pixel width, Gnome 3 fail to display the full name of a few applications icons in a row even with a almost unreadable small font !! Such a big failure. Completely useless.
Back to MATE, quickly...