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Early Childhood Neglect Associated With Altered Brain Structure, ADHD

vinces99 writes "Under the rule of dictator Nicolae Ceausescu, thousands of Romanian children were placed in overcrowded orphanages with bleak conditions and minimal human contact, a legacy that continued even after the 1989 revolution. Only recently have research and public concern caused policy changes.

University of Washington research on children who began life in these institutions shows that early childhood neglect is associated with changes in brain structure. A paper published this month in Biological Psychiatry shows that children who spent their early years in these institutions have thinner brain tissue in cortical areas that correspond to impulse control and attention. "These differences suggest a way that the early care environment has dramatic and lasting effects for children's functioning," said lead author Katie McLaughlin, a UW assistant professor of psychology.

Since 2000, the Bucharest Early Intervention Project has worked to document and treat the children's health. McLaughlin joined the team about six years ago to focus on brain development. This study is among the first in any setting to document how social deprivation in early life affects the thickness of the cortex, the thin folded layer of gray matter that forms the outer layer of the brain. The study provides "very strong support" for a link between the early environment and ADHD, McLaughlin said.

87 comments

  1. Parallels exist in animals by BoRegardless · · Score: 1

    If you don't care for and train them early they will bite the hand that feeds them.

    1. Re:Parallels exist in animals by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 0, Troll

      In traditional societies your children would take care of you in old age.

      Maybe if we got away from this nuclear family bullshit parents would pay more attention to their children because the return on investment would once again be important to them.

    2. Re:Parallels exist in animals by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      We are animals. The parallels should be expected. Human nature is the same as all other nature.

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    3. Re:Parallels exist in animals by linuxrocks123 · · Score: 2

      Dude, that's no excuse. You still need to stop peeing on my lawn.

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    4. Re:Parallels exist in animals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, parents should stop caring for their kids so that later on in life their kids will care for them?

    5. Re:Parallels exist in animals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Maybe if we got away from this nuclear family bullshit"

      Your post: I do not think it means what you think it means.

    6. Re:Parallels exist in animals by OakDragon · · Score: 1

      I think "nuclear family" does not mean what you think it does. But if I'm wrong, what is the alternative that you're thinking of?

    7. Re:Parallels exist in animals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, Romania. One of the last truly uncivilized countries on earth. Nothing but gypsies, skimmers and pickpockets. And now we know why they're all criminals: because their kids are treated worse than abandoned dogs in the US.

    8. Re:Parallels exist in animals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nuclear means the YOUNGEST father is the head of the household. The minimal family being, Mom Dad and Baby.

      Family structures differed over time and across cultures of course, but the Romans has a patriarchal family, where the OLDEST surviving dad was the head of household; his unmarried daughters, and his sons AND their families would all live under one roof, and under his rule. This family structure went hand in hand with primogeniture; and of course it provided lots of lots of support for newborn babies and the elderly.

      Nuclear began in our culture (I am referencing England here) after the Plague; when there just weren't enough masses of people left to do all the work. Wealth was concentrated into nuclear families, each typically with their own plot of land to work.

      NB: I am not "the eric conspiracy". Now... Oakdragon, what do YOU think nuclear family is, please?

    9. Re:Parallels exist in animals by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      That's the dog (sorry 'bout that)... I'm out back helpin' the missus uh, *clean the pool*..

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    10. Re:Parallels exist in animals by linuxrocks123 · · Score: 1

      Human nature is the same as all other nature.

      I'll be more serious now: no, it's not. We fit the definition of animals, yes, but we're freaks of nature. We're smarter than all other animals we know of; our brains have more synapses than any other animal we know of; we have more complex societies than any other animal we know of; and, we've been able to harness more energy in directed ways than any other animals we know of (exhibited by electrical grids, cars, planes, and rockets that leave the fucking atmosphere and send objects into space). You wouldn't necessarily expect, say, a mouse or fish to have the same problems with emotional neglect that human children have if they aren't "shown love" but still have all their basic nutritional needs met. That's something that's going to fuck up humans much, much more than most other animals. It'll fuck up monkeys (someone did a morally reprehensible experiment, referred to elsewhere in this thread, that proved that). According to the GP, it'll fuck up dogs, too, which you might expect since they're relatively smart. But you can't go the other way. You can't say, "this level of social interaction is fine for my dog, so my kid'll be fine if I treat him like that, too". Because we're not like dogs. We're an extreme of nature. We're freaks.

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  2. No need to go to Romania by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just walk down any street in Chicago.......

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    1. Re:No need to go to Romania by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any Street? That must be on the south side.

    2. Re:No need to go to Romania by germansausage · · Score: 1

      It's the baddest part of town........

    3. Re:No need to go to Romania by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Leroy Brown, is that you?

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    4. Re:No need to go to Romania by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't that where our president was born?

    5. Re:No need to go to Romania by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm from Romania you insensitive clod.

    6. Re:No need to go to Romania by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Well that is where he was a community leader. He spent most of his life being dragged around by his single mom as she traveled the world dating exotic men. However, she also left him with his real father often who was a pedophile communist that published nude photos of her as a child. So I am sure he is quite fine.

    7. Re:No need to go to Romania by RandomSkratch · · Score: 1

      It runs parallel to Fake Street.

    8. Re:No need to go to Romania by AbrasiveCat · · Score: 1

      It's the baddest part of town........

      My name is Sue, how do you do.

  3. Thank facebook for the next generation of adhd by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Too many parents are wasting more time on facebook and other "social media" sites. At least with TV, the parents could sit on the couch and have the kid on their lap, so there was some contact. Facebook and twitter are sowing the next generation of facebook and twitter users with low attention spans.

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    1. Re:Thank facebook for the next generation of adhd by PPalmgren · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm as much of a lawn guarder as the next guy, but what? The ADHD spike really showed up in the 90's, well before this stuff existed or was commonplace. My stepmother's son has ADHD, born in the early 90's, and she's practically a luddite when it comes to technology.

      If anything, I think it would have more to do with a double income household. The uptick aligns more with the lack of stay-at-home parents than with technology. I'm not surprised children don't get the attention they need when mommy and daddy are working 8-5 and burned out trying to keep up with the Joneses.

    2. Re:Thank facebook for the next generation of adhd by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      You left out divorce a swell which started to climb in the mid 70s.

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    3. Re:Thank facebook for the next generation of adhd by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1
      People (both parents and kids) were spending (and fighting over) time on computers in the '90s. And not just for games - I saw one marriage destroyed by chat programs, who knows how many others it happened to.

      Then again, the vcr also did a lot of damage. I remember seeing people who would rent 6 movies Friday night, watch them, then rent 7 movies Saturday night, and watch them as well. The whole family was glued to the tube the whole weekend.

      Same with Atari 2600s and Nintendo.

      Some people can't walk away from "oh shiny!"

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    4. Re:Thank facebook for the next generation of adhd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep up with the Joneses? More like trying to keep themselves fed and housed.

    5. Re:Thank facebook for the next generation of adhd by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1
      It's not an either-or situation. We've had a generation of ever-more complex devices more effectively competing for our attention, and the damage, like getting hit on the head repeatedly, is cumulative.

      This problem is now fed by sites that adapt their behavior to each individual to more effectively get and keep their attention. I didn't believe in internet addiction, but I'm now seeing so many people who can't even perform basic tasks like eating without constantly checking what's going on on facebook that I've had to change my mind.

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  4. Other possibilities? by jklovanc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While human contact is very important in child development there might also be a least a couple or other contributing factors. Here are a few of possibilities;
    1. Lack of proper nutrition. If the body is spending all it's food surviving there is little left to grow. It is well known thet the brain takes a lot of nutrition to grow.
    2. Lack of exercise. If you don't use the motor parts of the brain they may not grow.
    3. Lack of stimulating toys.
    4. Lack of stimulating play.
    There may be more or it may be all of the above. The study does not isolate any of these factors so there is no way to know which one is important. This looks like yet another study to prove a theory rather than test the theory.

    1. Re:Other possibilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3. Lack of stimulating toys.

      That line translated very weirdly in my mind. I need to cut down on the porn...

    2. Re:Other possibilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that they took on these and other factors and still had the same results. This is nothing new. Kind of old news actually. We knew that kids where parents do not interact with kids deal much worse at school and in life - for whatever the reason - single loving mom with two jobs is better than drug addicted mindless bitch but still cannot care enough because she is just not there. This is not an absolute of course - there are exceptions as people are different but there is a significant influence of neglect on behaviour and prospects in life. If there is such significant influence then there may be some statistically significant observable changes in brain structure as it adopts to the environment. So why factors you listed play a role, neglect is much bigger a factor than this. For instance - lack of mind stimulating toys does not mean all that much if there is always somebody loving and caring to play with. I am not a good father because I work full time and have to care for my kids in whats left of my time. That is not much.

    3. Re:Other possibilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, yes, but there are other studies that show that neglected children to a greater extent turn to criminality and more recent findings that ADHD is extremely overrepresented among repeat offending violent criminals.
      This study ties it all neatly together in a fairly boring way.

    4. Re:Other possibilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vibrators for orphans would be no less ridiculous than a lot of the crowdleeching projects I've seen on Kickstarter recently.

    5. Re:Other possibilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In France 90%+ of children with ADHD were cured by getting their iron levels up to normal whereas the normal medical approach is to "manage" the condition with Ritalin.

    6. Re:Other possibilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, that'll be it. Nothing to do with childhood abuse. Of course not.

      Your comments look like the comments of somebody desperately trying to avoid facing the suffering they endured in childhood...

    7. Re:Other possibilities? by judoguy · · Score: 1
      I agree in general that these things might contribute, but I want to look at this through the lens of low income in the U.S.

      1. Lack of proper nutrition. If the body is spending all it's food surviving there is little left to grow. It is well known thet the brain takes a lot of nutrition to grow.

      Calories aren't the issue these days, it's crap carb calories. Low income = obese in America these days.

      2. Lack of exercise. If you don't use the motor parts of the brain they may not grow.

      I suppose, but running around is free, pretty much.

      3. Lack of stimulating toys.

      I'm old. When we didn't have any store bought toys, we played with sticks and tin cans and cardboard boxes and matches(!) when I was a kid in the 50s and early 60s. When bored enough, we'd dig holes in the sides of hills to make caves. I'm still amazed none of us died in a collapse.

      4. Lack of stimulating play.

      See the point above.

      I'm not a Luddite by any definition. I've been coding for over 30 years. Grew up going to Radio Shack for surplus parts before Tandy made it into a retail toy store. I grew up mostly as the only child of a single working mother. This whole issue is pretty complex.

      I just know it irritates the hell out of me to be in a restaurant and watch a small child trying hard, and failing, to compete with it's mother's phone for attention.

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    8. Re:Other possibilities? by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      Calories aren't the issue these days, it's crap carb calories. Low income = obese in America these days.

      Calories are not proper nutrition. For that you need protein, vitamins and minerals.

      The rest shows how privileged you actually were. You were allowed to go outside and play with friends of your choice. You were allowed access to things like sticks, cans, matches and shovels. In these institutes most kids were kept indoors and forced to stay quiet and not cause issues. Your life was very different than institutional life.

      I just know it irritates the hell out of me to be in a restaurant and watch a small child trying hard, and failing, to compete with it's mother's phone for attention.

      There are two sides to every story. While you did see the child competing for attention you didn't see the child to exactly the same thing for the previous four hours. Sometime children need to learn to amuse themselves while parents do other things. For all you know the parent is setting up a play date for the child.

    9. Re:Other possibilities? by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      Care to cite any studies that support that statement? Here is a link to a list of studies and the conclusion is that the jury is still out on the effects of iron on ADHD.

    10. Re:Other possibilities? by jklovanc · · Score: 1

      Methinks thou dost protest too much. I said there may be other factors as well. I am just trying to point out that blaming the thinning of the brain on one factor is not scientifically supported by this study.

    11. Re:Other possibilities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a 27 year old diagnosed with adult ADHD at 23, I think I have a certain level of insight into some of the roots of my behaviours. I'm very much of the mindset that neuroplasticity in early childhood years shapes the thought processes and general approach to life. I'd like to offer an alternative to your third and fourth point, based purely on my anecdotal experience.

      Rather than 'stimulating', I believe the key is 'directed' play vs 'free' play. As a child of divorce, I had two loving parents and regular contact with extended family, often staying with grandparents or aunts / uncles. Living with just my mother who worked full time, I spent time in after school care until she picked me up at 6 each night, it was very structured and was the only period in my life I was able to read books (more on this following).

      At around 11, I was old enough to look after myself at home until she finished work. I was a well behaved kid and became fairly self sufficient, managed myself and did minor tidying but had no responsibilities besides keeping out of trouble, which I happily obliged.

      Being left to my own devices, I embraced most of the behaviours I associate with my ADHD, and solidified my neural structures in these formative years. The freedom to jump from one obscure interest to another, drop projects at any stage and move onto more interesting problems, the constant overwhelming of my senses through music and background dialogue of tv whenever working on something that would be better served with proper focus. All of these things became the norm, and are still my subconscious defaults, I have to focus a substantial conscious effort to keep them in check.

      I know people have differing views on what an ADHD diagnosis actually represents, and the degree to which someone can influence the factors in the spectrum disorder, but I can look at the issues I was facing and the results I've achieved with the tools I've used. You could argue that behavioural modification could have helped me study in university, but I was studying areas I had hyper focus for, where I could stare at code for hours without issue, but was brought to tears of frustration on multiple occasions physically trying to force myself to read a whole page of a text book without getting up / context switching. The only comparable feeling I can describe is the peak of my cravings quitting smoking. Its a similar intrusive, overwhelming, unshakable thought or feeling, only you crave anything that isn't the train of thought you're trying to maintain. You're literally paralysed at the thought of moving forward without investigating every other option, like each is an opportunity you're burning the bridge to.

      I don't think it's something you can really express to people in a way that makes them empathise the divide between the normal, and the extremes seen by people with most psychological disorders. I think its partially down to the blur between subjectivity and objectivity, can you say someone with depression has felt sadder than someone who's experienced tragedy? I see diagnosis as a tool for the patient, an abstraction of the situation with a known path of treatment and understanding. The more we know about factors that influence symptoms, the better we can work to address them for everyone. What helps people without a condition helps with the baseline of someone having issues.

  5. ADHD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are people still getting ADHD ? Aren't they updating to AD4K these days.

    1. Re:ADHD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *laughs*
      *self-concious*
      .....innnnnnappropriate.

  6. Not Surprising: supported by controlled experiment by cortex · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Greenough showed the effects of enriched and deprived environments on cortical connectivity and thickness in a series of studies. This is one of his early studies:

    Science. 1972 Jun 30;176(4042):1445-7. Rearing complexity affects branching of dendrites in the visual cortex of the rat. Volkmar FR, Greenough WT.

    "Higher-order dendritic branching is considerably greater in Golgistained neurons from the occipital cortex of rats reared in groups in a complex environment than in similar neurons of littermates reared individually in laboratory cages have intermediate amounts of branching, while lower-order branching did not appear to be affected by any rearing environment."

  7. Makes sense by EzInKy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And I believe correlation will be found with the lack of child rearing and the forcing of both parents working on the populace. Began with Reagan as I recall, and most certainly coincides with the continuos concentration of wealth in the upper class in this country.

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    1. Re:Makes sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the change in family structure began during WW2 with the loss of an always home parent then got worse with the advent of welfare and driving one parent from the home.

    2. Re:Makes sense by DontLickJesus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Forcing both parents to work likely isn't causal. The breakup of the family working all together at the same/related jobs is likely more specific. One can work and nurture at the same time, they rightfully go hand in hand. Teach your progeny what you know the way you learned it. It promotes learning and confidence in learning.

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    3. Re:Makes sense by EzInKy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So you deny it was Reagan who drove the second parent from the home then? Name one major sociatal change in the last thirty years that enables the average person to support a family on one income. Hell, we can't even get a living minimum wage passed in this country. It's all about more profit for the profit mongers and nothing about the survival of the family. So for some it is the best of times, for others the worst of times.

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    4. Re:Makes sense by globaljustin · · Score: 1

      i don't think someone orchestrated the need for both parents to work as part of a way to alter the brain structure of a generation...

      but there is no denying that people with low impulse control make better consumers...

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    5. Re:Makes sense by Tailhook · · Score: 4, Informative

      Reagan

      Here we are, discussing a story about the developmental damage measured in the brains of the victims of Ceausescu's communist hellhole, and this fucking freak starts bitching about Reagan, the one president in my lifetime that made a point of illuminating the plight of people subjected to that nightmare.

      In actual fact the ratio of working women has been steadily increasing since the end of WW2. Reagan's time in office didn't influence that trend one way or the other.

      But keep knock'n back that Daily KOS kool-aid. No sense in allowing reality to impede on that fucked up worldview.

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    6. Re:Makes sense by buddyglass · · Score: 1

      Day care, if done right, can be as stimulating as staying at home with mom. Even the average U.S. day care is light years away from an Eastern bloc orphanage.

    7. Re:Makes sense by LWATCDR · · Score: 2

      No you are wrong.
      http://www.dol.gov/oasam/progr...

      The rate of women joining the workforce has been more or less constant since 1948. The increase in the divorce rate, the pushing of women to have a career instead of staying home, the reduction of well paying manufacturing jobs, and many other issues has caused this.

      I know of a couple where the mother has the higher potential to earn and the father stays at home which is fine. The key is not that women must stay home but at least one parent should stay home during the early years of the childrens life.

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  8. And if the opposite was true? by nowsharing · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Imagine if the opposite was true; if complete neglect and institutionalization was good for kids. Now that would be a real finding.

  9. Are children in orphanages really typical? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These results are interesting, but the experiment has no controls. Somehow, I doubt that typical child in an orphanage had typical parents with typical brains. Could it be that a part of the observed effect comes from the heritability of a thin neocortex, plus a correlation between parents having a thin neocortex and their children ending up in an orphanage?

    1. Re:Are children in orphanages really typical? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I'll bet those "scientists" didn't even think of that. How stupid must those guys be?

  10. old article with different title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you leave a child in a room, with all the nutrition and proper shelter that they will ever need, by themselves, they will grow up to be mentally retarded. This article brings nothing new to the table. It is common knowledge that without human contact they will have hindered learning abilities, such as language and social development, such as the Feral kid who grew up with wolves and ran around on all four legs and couldn't learn to speak properly.

    What we need are scientist who focus on positive outcomes, rather than the negative. What are the effects of creating interest for a child in lets say math, science, music, etc at a very early age? You may get a child prodigy, interest should be one of the highest priorities in school. Interest and potentiality are what create great minds, children have the highest potential versus a man who is in his 30's or even 20's, but first interest must be created before the potentiality can leap to higher levels. A child who has no interest in learning has no potential, but one who does can become the next Einstein.

    There are always going to be neglected children, an article on neglected children isn't going to help neglected children or bad parents. Children spend more time at school then they do at home (in terms of interaction and creating self identity). Schooling is where, if anything, disorders such as ADHD arise. The primary education system needs improvement, not parents, because nothing can actually be done about parenting, there will ALWAYS be bad parents, but there could always be GOOD TEACHERS who could improve their lives.

    What OP posted pretty much sums up what a bad scientist is, wasting time and resources on something that has little effect on helping the world

    1. Re:old article with different title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    2. Re:old article with different title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you need to do, what you really need to do, is learn what science is and what it is not.

    3. Re:old article with different title by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      I think it's partially because their mirror neural network never got properly "set up" . Mirror neurons are VERY important to being able to properly react and socialize...

    4. Re:old article with different title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nice constructive criticism, not. nice trolling.

      we need better teachers and less blame on parenting. Teachers are parenting children more than the parents are, especially when it comes to a neglected child, the teachers actually become the parents, not just the educator. Really I can think back for myself for my primary school education (public) and say most of it was just baby sitting, and learning obey rules social and learning. Have you ever accidently called your teacher MOM or DAD ? I've seen it happen before. The public primary education system is crap, bad parenting is only half of it.

    5. Re:old article with different title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The brain changes associated with stuff like ADHD happen before kids even start school.

      I agree that the school system has problems and needs major changes, but don't blame it for causing ADHD. It does however need to do a better job of helping the kids who have ADHD learn in a more appropriate environment for it.

      (I have ADHD myself and do tutoring of special needs kids)

  11. ancient news by swell · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Decades ago there was an experiment with monkeys deprived of maternal support to varying degrees. Some not allowed to touch or see the mother. Autopsies showed that the deprived monkeys had massive (and obvious to any observer) brain deficiencies. These monkeys were never able to adjust to social settings with others of their kind. Their behavior was obviously abnormal. My impression was that every moment of their life was stressful for them. Sorry I can't recall the source of the video I saw.

    This result would be the same for dogs, cats and humans. I can't comprehend why it would be news in the year 2014.

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    1. Re:ancient news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't comprehend why it would be news in the year 2014.

      It isn't news. A decades old study that you can't name about monkeys isolated in cages isn't news. This new study with humans in human environments and human concerns are. Did you not get enough attention as a child?

    2. Re:ancient news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should have done autopsies on the psychopaths who tortured those poor monkeys - you would have found much the same thing. Why weren't they arrested and imprisoned for their crimes?

    3. Re:ancient news by jc42 · · Score: 1

      Decades ago there was an experiment with monkeys deprived of maternal support to varying degrees. Some not allowed to touch or see the mother. Autopsies showed that the deprived monkeys had massive (and obvious to any observer) brain deficiencies. These monkeys were never able to adjust to social settings with others of their kind. Their behavior was obviously abnormal. My impression was that every moment of their life was stressful for them. Sorry I can't recall the source of the video I saw.

      This result would be the same for dogs, cats and humans. I can't comprehend why it would be news in the year 2014.

      Hmmm ... You seem to have missed the even more "interesting" followup studies. I was a grad student working with some of those reasearchers, so I heard a bit about it. They took their adult solo-raised monkeys, who were highly asocial, and caged them for a while with infant monkeys. After a few months, they took those individuals and put them in the "social" cages with established groups of their own species -- and they behaved like normal, socialized monkeys.

      So maybe we could try this with our "deprived" human children. Put them into a social setting (perhaps schools) with younger children, and watch their interactions. They aren't monkeys, of course, but we are all close relatives, so maybe it would work with them, and they'd become at least somewhat better-socialized humans after a while.

      Or maybe humans are hopeless. We don't really know until we do such experiments on ourselves. But we do seem to have a population of good test subjects, and the results couldn't be much worse than what we've been doing. Imprisoning such young adults in response to minor mischief would seem to be exactly the wrong thing to do, if those monkey experiments apply to our species, too.

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  12. See author Dr. Gabor Mate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Not only is abuse a factor, but also basic critical factors missing from childhood such as emotionally stable adults. I've been studying this subject and working with kids (currently mentoring) for the last 5 years and it all fits, especially after meeting parents and observing how they treat and interact with their child. Check out author Gabor Mate and his books on stress, addiction, parenting, and ADHD. His lectures are all over youtube and his website is outstanding: drgabormate.com. I've handed out dozens of copies of his books to parents and it's made a difference in understanding not only ADHD, but the general mental health of children and what makes them behave as they do. If you are a parent I would urge you to check out this author, ideally before you kid reaches adolescence. Heads up!

    This link will hopefully inspire your interest:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGmADfU5HGU

    This is a fairly core lecture:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZNH7mvEgPA

    And of course the author:
    http://drgabormate.com/

  13. I thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ADHD was caused by a smothering mother and a distant father.

  14. Re:Not Surprising: supported by controlled experim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You talkin' to me?

    Then who the hell else are you talkin' to? You talkin' to me? Well I'm the only one here ...

  15. join the ECNA by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    the Early Childhood Neglect Association is a non-profit

    1. Re:join the ECNA by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      shouldn't that be the care association? or is the point to promote neglect? that name is as bad as american cancer society

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  16. How is that news ? by dargaud · · Score: 0

    By now everybody knows that having a dumbfuck mother like Jenny McCarthy will give you autism...

    --
    Non-Linux Penguins ?
  17. Additional reading by stonedown · · Score: 2

    "The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog" contains stories about children who went through trauma, and recovered to a degree one would not have thought possible. One of the stories is about the indoctrinated children who were released from Waco, before the structure burned. Another story is about a child which spent about a year (as I recall) caged like an animal. Though disturbing, it's a fascinating look at childhood development and a fresh way of looking at how best to care for traumatized children and help them to be able to heal as much as possible.

    "Born for Love: Why Empathy is Essential -- and Endangered" is about how empathy is "learned", and why it is so essential.

    Both books are by co-authors Dr. Bruce Perry and Maia Szalavitz. They are highly recommended for anyone working with traumatized children.

  18. CASA: I am for the Child by stonedown · · Score: 5, Informative

    When we are born, we have no choice what home we are born into, or who our parents are. We may be born into wealth or poverty. We may have parents who treat us with care and tenderness; or we may have parents who don't know how to care for a child, have drug addictions, are incarcerated, are violent, or are mentally unstable. Some children are loved and kissed, while other children are severely neglected, beaten, or abused sexually. This is the lottery we all played. Most of us won. Some children lost.

    Abused children are missing a part of their childhood. Where they should have received love, they received brutality or neglect. Because they missed out on a crucial part of their development, they are behind the other children. Children which have to be removed from their parents for their protection can sometimes be placed with family or a close friend. When this is not possible, they enter the foster care system.

    In the foster care system, there may be many people involved in the child's life: parents, other family or friends, social workers, attorneys, therapists, doctors, educators, foster parents or group home staff, and hopefully a Court-Appointed Special Advocate (CASA) or Guardian ad Litem (GAL).

    A CASA is a volunteer who is a constant adult presence in the child's life, which may be lacking other permanency. While social workers, group home staff, therapists, and doctors may work with many children, a CASA is assigned to a single child. The CASA meets with the child at least every other week, takes her out for activities or to eat, learns about her needs and circumstances, and uses this knowledge to advocate for her best interests.

    Please consider volunteering as a CASA.

    http://www.casaforchildren.org...

  19. Adoption by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We adopted our son a few years ago. When you're going through the process you're required to take classes where they prepare you for this. Romanian and Russian orphanages are so horrific we specifically ruled out adopting from those countries. It's a tough choice but you have to weigh your families ability to deal with huge amounts of stress and the financial burden of years of therapy, drugs, etc...

    We adopted from Ethiopia, which is a country that's renowned how well they care for their orphans despite the poverty. I saw the care centers, and the people that ran them. They rival daycares here in the US and the workers hugged and cried with my son when he left. Even despite that, the lack of a true 1on1 relationship with a mother has had a significant impact on my son. With women especially, he fears they'll leave him. He acts out to get attention. His teachers need to do special 1on1 activities with him to reassure him. Give him special tasks, etc. It's tough but he's otherwise a great kid and definitely smarter than I was at that age. It's the biggest challenge I've ever had in my life. I couldn't imagine what the famillies of those Romanian children are going through. My hat is off to them.

    One of the first things they have you watch is this study from the 1950s where they gave monkeys a Fake wire mother that had milk and cloth mother that did not:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Caution: it's emotionally disturbing to a lot of people.
    The monkey would rather starve on the cloth comforting mother than eat on the wire mother.

    1. Re:Adoption by Time+Ed · · Score: 2

      I adopted three from Ukraine. I can tell some stories about raising the products of East European orphanages.

      Chapeau to you sir. You and your wife are kind people. Good luck on your adventure.

    2. Re:Adoption by Morpeth · · Score: 2

      Just like to say, well done sir -- parenthood alone is hard work, let alone with any added issues. Hats off to you.

      --

      'The unexamined life is not worth living' - Socrates
  20. I had ADHD when growing up.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I can honestly say this is not new news for me. I've known all along that my parents neglect (Especially by my dad) contributed to my condition. I had at one point thought ADHD was due to sugar intake as well.. However, my kids have clearly proven me wrong there. The sugar may make them get out of control but I bring them back in line.

  21. So glad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So glad we have a way to tell the "popular" rats from the geeks and nerd rat loners.

  22. Did they account for nutrition and exercise? by neo-mkrey · · Score: 1

    Or lack thereof?

  23. not a repost by dingleberrie · · Score: 1

    So environment has a bigger influence that what we've measured in the Genome.
    If only we tackled the less expensive solutions first.

    http://science.slashdot.org/st...

    1. Re:not a repost by dingleberrie · · Score: 1

      Oops, this was a repost. I meant to post this comment in an alternate thread.
      http://science.slashdot.org/st...

  24. Personal experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Going AC on this for a reason,

    I grew up with two alcoholic parents. Not the occasional drunks, or even funny drunks. But fucking mean, screaming, physical fights, cops called, parents arrested kind of drunks. I was always stressed and anxious as a kid, worried about the next blow up, embarrassed socially, hating my life, just wishing I was dead as a kid. Though I never tried to take my life, many days I just wanted it over.

    This went on for a long time. From as early as I can remember to until they FINALLY got sober when I was 18, my parents were raging alcoholics. So pretty much ALL the important developmental phases, from childhood, through adolescence, just until college -- I was a wreck. Life in short pretty much sucked shit.

    The only thing that saved me was they shipped me off to boarding school where some remarkable teachers and faculty took me under their wings, mentored me, modeled good adult behavior, and showed me what a normal life could be like. At least at boarding school I had structure (there is NO structure with 2 drunks, nothing you can count on, no one to rely on, no sense of security)

    But that said, life has been a struggle for me as an adult (been treated on and off for depression, anxiety issues, battles ADHD my whole life -- not an easy thing to have as a software developer/programmer). I have little doubt, both because of my own experience, and what studies have shown, such as the effect of constant and intense stress on the brain -- that neglect like that can have permanent lasting, damage to the brain.

    While my own story is certainly anecdotal, I've always felt a bit 'broken' as it were, and never felt like I could operate like 'most people' do... I think the years of hell did lasting damage, not just emotionally, but on a neurological level.

     

    1. Re:Personal experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I should add, about the boarding school -- I was a scholarship kid, my parents were not rich (my dad was frequently unemployed because of his drinking). My refuge was school and sports, I managed somehow to do well at both, enough to get me into a good prep school -- though I had to work really hard at academics because of the ADHD and focus issues.

  25. motric deprivation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm from Romania.

    The trouble with orphanage systems here *was* that they were seriously understaffed. The caregivers even tied the little children to their beds in order to not to have to look out after them very much. Little children's development (until about 6 years of age) is not psychological but psychomotric, so as long as they were limited in movement the same was happening to their brains. I would put the results of the study on this fact. I hope this no longer happens anywhere in the world, because the result is handicapped people.

  26. Hey you! Look over here! Pay attention to me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ---> Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.

    Why yes, that was exactly what I was going for, for effect. So instead, just imagine the title and the following in all caps...

    Hey you!
    Look over here!
    Pay attention to me!
    Watch me do a flip!
    Now I'm eating worms!
    Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker tits fart turd and twat!
    TV show reference!
    Oh I should watch that show!
    The show's intro is taking too long! Now I'm bored!!!
    Watch me run around in circles!
    Oooo video games!
    This game is boring!
    Now I'm screaming even louder!!!

    Given all of that, I can see how the subtext could be "mommy and daddy never paid attention to me :(".
    I'm surprised it wasn't obvious to everyone that neglect led to that kind of behavior.
    But I guess nothing is so obvious that researchers won't study it.

  27. Thank facebook for the next generation of adhd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Social media is much to new. My generation was on teh bleeding edge of that and we're only now getting round to having children. It'll be another 5 years before you can see any effects from our negligence as parents.

    Video games might match up better.

  28. Already tried by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't they already try to blame Autism on this? The whole 'Refrigerator Mom' thing...