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YouTube Considering an Ad-Free, Subscription-Based Version

Walking The Walk writes YouTube is looking at creating a paid-subscription model that would allow users to skip the ads on their videos. (A more condensed summary from CBC.) No firm date has been announced, and it sounds like tentative steps right now, but YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki did mention that ad-enabled music videos would still be offered.

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  1. Ad-enabled music videos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    How about removing ads on videos that don't have any commercially copyrighted music in the first place?

    1. Re:Ad-enabled music videos? by ganjadude · · Score: 4, Informative

      ads??? i havent seen ads on youtube in forever. granted i know what adblockplus is

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    2. Re:Ad-enabled music videos? by sound+vision · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If Google will now be directly earning money from people subscribing to ad-free service, the AdBlock situation could change quickly. Frankly, I'm surprised Google hasn't already made the ads inseparable from the content - it's not hard. I suppose there hasn't been enough incentive for them to do that. If they bring out subscriptions, maybe they will have the incentive.

    3. Re:Ad-enabled music videos? by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

      I have AdBlock installed, and I still see pre-roll ads sometimes.

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    4. Re:Ad-enabled music videos? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I didn't think there were ads on youtube either. Granted I don't use it all that much. Maybe they're talking about those stupid boxes that pop up blocking part of the video which are trying to get me to watch a different video .

    5. Re:Ad-enabled music videos? by Trogre · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? In New Zealand we already see video ads appearing right in the middle of some YouTube videos.

      I guess that particular treat hasn't reached your country yet. For it, I place the blame squarely on ad-blockers. Google know that a percentage of their viewers never see nice static ads, so they resort to these obnoxious aggressive tactics.

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    6. Re:Ad-enabled music videos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a fucking idiot. Google doesn't place those ads there, the content makers do. Try learning something about what you're talking about before you actually talk about it and you won't look like a complete retard.

    7. Re:Ad-enabled music videos? by Trogre · · Score: 1

      Okay, thank you for your constructive criticism there.

      Are you perhaps talking about ads that are a part of the viewed content? I'm talking about videos that are inserted into the playing video stream.

      The content makers choose whether or not to enable ads on their videos, (and probably where to put them, I'm not sure on that point). Google then chooses what ads to put in based on their secret sauce (in no small part your geographic location).

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    8. Re:Ad-enabled music videos? by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      I re-imaged my PC for the first time in ages and forgot to put ABP on it. I was shocked how horrible the internet is these days. How do people regular cope with this?

    9. Re:Ad-enabled music videos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Both are put there by the content makers. When a video is published, you are prompted as to whether you want to monetize it and how. The content creators set all of that up, not Google.

  2. pay money for youtube? by alen · · Score: 2

    is this november fools?

    who is going to pay money for russian driving and ice bucket challenge videos?

    1. Re:pay money for youtube? by i+kan+reed · · Score: 1, Insightful

      People who haven't heard of adblock?

      Some of us reaaaaaaaaaaaaaallly hate ads.

    2. Re:pay money for youtube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That doesnt stop ads in the middle of a video though. I would consider this if it were cheap.

    3. Re:pay money for youtube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are ads in the middle of videos? That's news to me.

    4. Re:pay money for youtube? by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Wait, YouTube has ads? I didn't even know.

    5. Re:pay money for youtube? by uCallHimDrJ0NES · · Score: 1

      Funny, I discovered Youtube ads had invaded my FireTV YouTube client after updating last night. I was also previously unaware youtube was forcing ads. Adblock FTW.

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    6. Re:pay money for youtube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd pay for it, just because I watch videos often on YT. Yes, adblocking can be done... but it only is a matter of time before companies just use DRM extensions to ensure their ads are unblockable.

    7. Re:pay money for youtube? by sycodon · · Score: 1

      I'll *watch* the ads as long as they...

      1. Make their player respect the volume level I set and not jack it up to the maximum for every new video.
      2. Disable those stupid, inane, idiotic, moron bait Popups people can put in the videos that typically say, "Subscribe", or, "Click here for the latest version!" and more often than not, are just plain blank.
      3. Quit "suggesting" shit unrelated to my search. If I search for "Lava Lake", I don't want to see videos of Russian Fails in the list.

      And for fuck sake, ditch the Jimmy Kimmel and Ellen fan club on the home page.

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    8. Re:pay money for youtube? by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      That doesnt stop ads in the middle of a video though.

      It does for me. Either that or I haven't seen any vids that have those ads interrupting it.

    9. Re:pay money for youtube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are quite rare but there are some long videos which have ads in the middle.

    10. Re:pay money for youtube? by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      Doesn't happen with ABP. What is somewhat disturbing is the visible flaws in ABP these days where you get a momentary load of an ad video that is "broken" before switching to the real one. That never used to happen.

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    11. Re:pay money for youtube? by ninjacheeseburger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Youtube has come a long way recently in terms of production value some channels host shows that even surpass TV shows in terms of quality such as VGHS https://www.youtube.com/show/v... or even full length movies such as Ashens and the Quest for the game child https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      Users like TotalBiscuit regularly provide high quality coverage of video games, so depending on your interests, there are defiantly videos worth paying to watch, obviously depending on prices. It would have to be pretty low to be justifiable though, a TV licence in the UK is just over £12 a month which funds multiple add free channels with for the most part high quality content.

    12. Re:pay money for youtube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have seen cases where the video maker is actually inserting ads into the video, ABP doesn't touch those since it can't tell them apart from the video itself.

    13. Re: pay money for youtube? by jxander · · Score: 2

      I trust that the community at large will always be one step ahead of youtube.

      If they make ads harder to block, people will write better software to block the new ads. Currently ABP is a one stop shop, but if I had to install a separate "YouTube Adblock" extension, I certainly would.

      Or just stop using youtube. There are much better things in life than staring blankly at the screen.

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    14. Re:pay money for youtube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would. Don't have a telly, my son is watching a fair amount of Youtube, and for some reason Adblock+ hasn't been working for a long time. If I could pay a couple of bucks per month with a fair amount of that money going to the people making the content, I would be happy to do so.

    15. Re:pay money for youtube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely none of the crap on youtube is worth enduring ten seconds of advertising. As one of "us" I am quite ready and willing to ditch Youtube forever if the ads become unreasonably difficult to block. If it weren't for Adblock Plus and Xposed I'd have left a long time ago.

    16. Re:pay money for youtube? by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      What happens for me is the video seems to hang on loading, then I get the fake-analog-static with "an error has occurred" message. Refreshing the page allows the video to play normally, but I think I have to wait a short period of time (like the length of time an ad would take to play) before I refresh. This doesn't happen on every video but it has started happening more and more often the last six months.

    17. Re:pay money for youtube? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Also make sure the content justifies the ad. If the content proves to be shite and stopped after going through the ad, then that is theft of time and pleasure. No ads prior to content, only after content and align the ads to the content, it is far less jarring. As for searches, the video spammers just flood their content with all kinds of popular tags, so allow users to block specific uploaders and drop them from all search returns.

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    18. Re:pay money for youtube? by antdude · · Score: 1

      Are you in the future? We're still in October.

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    19. Re:pay money for youtube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then how did you think they could pay all the professional YouTubers? There are people making 6 figures doing YouTube full time. Also a ton more at least making 5 figures, enough to live off of.

    20. Re:pay money for youtube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually, I know of adblock but don't use it, because I watch youtube almost exclusively on an embedded device on my television (Roku) so have no control, as the same as many others who have Roku/AppleTV/App-driven ecosystems. It used to be that there were never ads on the videos I watched, but as of the past month or so, pretty much every video I've seen has ads. I'll be looking at a Roku replacement (dedicated linux-based set top box maybe?)

    21. Re:pay money for youtube? by Reziac · · Score: 1

      How about letting individual channels choose if they want to go subscription? Cuz what a subscription model will cut down, drastically in the case of casual-content videos, is the impulse watcher who generates ad revenue whether they really care enough about your video to watch it or not.

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  3. Performance by jjmcwill · · Score: 1

    My current problem with Youtube isn't the ads, it's that Youtube runs like crap on my AT&T Uverse connection at home.

    I'm sure this is a problem with AT&T and not Youtube, however. :-(

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  4. This is new? by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 1
    1. Re:This is new? by alen · · Score: 2

      that's to separate dumb teens from their money with teen vlogger stars

  5. Channel design customization by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    Maybe if the paid version allowed channel design customization like before vs all channels looking the same shade of bland.

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  6. thats odd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's already ad free for me...

  7. So wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they found a way to force AdBlock to charge its customers?

  8. Wait, there are ads on Youtube? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll stop using adblockers when the ads stop being visually offensive annoyances for goods I wouldn't buy even if I had the money.

  9. Meh by lennier1 · · Score: 1

    Still doesn't change that proxies are necessary to get around the region restrictions of some videos.

  10. What I'd pay for by whereiswaldo · · Score: 1

    All-you-can-eat monthly subscription with download links for all videos (including commercial music videos) in various formats (mp4, mp3, ogg, etc.).

  11. Now you see them, now you don't by DumbSwede · · Score: 2

    Umm, more power to them I guess. So for money I get to skip the adds, or I don’t have to see them at all? Seems unclear. Most of what my wife watches only requires a 5 second wait before allowing a skip. I expect that wait will skyrocket if subscription fees don’t bring in what marketing thinks they should.

    From TFA:

    She did say YouTube would continue to offer the option of music videos with ads for those who don’t want to pay.

    Seems to suggest other previously commerical supported feeds might no longer be available to non subscribers.

    All and all sounds like a bumpy road ahead.

    1. Re:Now you see them, now you don't by neoritter · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but where does the money we're paying them go to? Aren't there youtubers that rely on adsense profits? If the ads are gone from the videos, how are they making money? I can't possibly see how Google would divvy up the profits of the subscriptions to the youtube channels making money off their videos.

    2. Re:Now you see them, now you don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure how it works, but if the YouTube video creator is paid for views, then Google should be able to pay out per view whether or not they showed an ad to the user.

  12. days of adblockers and downloaders are numbered.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    youtube is already ad-free if you know what you're doing... so drm to stop the adblockers and video downloaders will have to accompany the subscription model otherwise they'd get few paying users.

  13. Ads always load fine by Russ1642 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ads, even full top quality HD, load up just fine. Then when your video is actually supposed to play you just get that stupid waiting symbol. Then the video starts to play and just as it's getting to a good part it pauses while it loads again then rapidly skips the part you actually wanted to see. Maybe, just maybe, YouTube could make their site not suck before asking people to pay for it.

    1. Re:Ads always load fine by operagost · · Score: 2

      It makes Real Player BUFFERING look fantastic.

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    2. Re:Ads always load fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Content has always been seen by the networks as the stuff between the Ads.

    3. Re:Ads always load fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use YouTube all the time, and I've never ran into this problem.
      Maybe your Internet connection just sucks.

    4. Re:Ads always load fine by sound+vision · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've been very disappointed in how the YouTube video player has been getting worse on a technical level. In fact, it's been many years since it was in a state that I'd consider "good". Between videos failing halfway through, or just failing to load period, requiring a refresh... not to mention the extreme bandwidth waste while seeking. It used to be, once a video had loaded, you could seek to any point in that video and it would simply start playing the loaded video from that point. Now, it begins re-downloading the entire video, beginning at your seek point.

    5. Re:Ads always load fine by neoritter · · Score: 1

      I never understood why they changed this... used to be, okay my connection sucks. Let me just wait for the video to load and I'll watch it. Now it's, well my connection sucks, I can't watch youtube videos; or watching them becomes a chore.

    6. Re:Ads always load fine by itzly · · Score: 1

      Youtube works fine. Maybe your ISP doesn't.

    7. Re:Ads always load fine by lgw · · Score: 1

      No, that's not it. Just because something isn't broken for you doesn't mean you're a representative sample.

      I have a 50 Mb connection and my ISP and YouTube are friends, all needed money having changed hands. YouTube still blows goats on some videos, while working fine on others. They have some serious issues with their back-end.

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    8. Re:Ads always load fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It also seems they re-introduce old bugs all the time. For instance, for quite some time they had a bug where - when using Chromecast to watch say an hour and a half show and you get to a point where you want to disconnect and watch the rest later so you click the Disconnect option in the app, it would then jump to 0:00 and start playing on the phone / tablet. That was fixed (finally) awhile back and it would start playing from where you disconnected (and then you could pause it, close the app, and return later and watch from where you stopped). Now, as of the update a day or two ago - the same problem has returned. Annoying as hell when you watch tech podcasts while running on the treadmill and want to finish them on another device later...

    9. Re:Ads always load fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've lived in China and New York. Even while in China using a VPN i've never had buffering problems with YOutube...it's definitely your ISP

    10. Re:Ads always load fine by lgw · · Score: 2

      It's not about the pipe at all. YouTube has issues completely unrelated to sending the bits the last hop to your PC. That's why they're "back-end" issues.

      YouTube's architecture is fairly complicated, with many places where things can go wrong. I can't know where the problem is when a video won't start playing - could be a problem in the CDN, could be a bad server somewhere behind a load balancer, could be the storage used for the video shit the bed, could be a lot of things that have nothing to do with ISPs or bandwidth.

      High-scale systems have problems like this all the time - not outages, but some things fail for some customers, and if the impact is small enough, it can take quite some time before someone's pager goes off. When it happens frequently (especially if it takes a long time for a human to intervene), that's a serious problem with the system.

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    11. Re:Ads always load fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does your ISP offer a competing video service? YouTube has more bandwidth than God. The bottleneck is usually a lack of peering bandwidth between Google's network and certain ISPs.

    12. Re:Ads always load fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They were trying to break youtube video downloader tools

    13. Re:Ads always load fine by stms · · Score: 2

      Try using a plugin to enable HTML5 video if you're using Firefox. It works much better if you don't have much bandwidth. It consumes a bit more computational resources than Flash Player so your mileage may very.

    14. Re:Ads always load fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Partially yes, but it was mainly to save bandwidth. The number of videos that are open and only the first few minutes are played before the user quits watching that video is surprising.

  14. I already get YouTube Ad Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's called Adblock Plus with several subscriptions plus Disconnect, plus directing LSOs and cookies to /dev/null. Works a treat. I've not seen an ad in so long...

  15. Thanks for ruining youtube, google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Been downhill ever since they bought it, and now it looks like it will only get worse.

    1. Re:Thanks for ruining youtube, google by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      How is it worse ? There is plenty of high quality contents made by professionals. YouTube is not just for cat videos anymore.
      Of course, for these people to make a living, they need to monetize and it means you have to give something in return as neither producers nor Google are charities. It may be a bit of your person (that's what ads are for) or money. Google now considers the second option, which I think is a good one.

      As for the time before YouTube was bought by Google, it was only better because there were plenty of unchecked piracy. Content owners didn't sue YouTube because it was a small company and there wasn't money to be made. The picture changed when Google, with its very deep pockets, bought it. But in this case, Google's only fault was to have money. Even if YouTube had stayed independent, copyright holders would have attacked as soon as it had became profitable, requiring similar changes.

    2. Re:Thanks for ruining youtube, google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is it worse ? There is plenty of high quality contents made by professionals.

      You mean those retarded gaming channels where paid thirty-somethings act more idiotically than a 14-year old would ever do?

  16. Sounds Reasonable to Me by jratcliffe · · Score: 1

    I wish Hulu offered something similar - I'd happily pay a higher monthly fee not to have the ads.

  17. great business model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A subscription-based (where you -the "people"- are the consumer) and/or ad-supported (where the "people" are the real "product" of the content providers) -and/or even mixed (where you are both)- is the best business model - if everything is clear and honest.

  18. Not my problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't see any ads on YouTube right now. Whether it's due to the fact that I'm using HTML5 player or AdBlock is doing a particularly good job, I have no idea. But it works somehow, and I didn't need to pay a thing.

  19. mostly stopped consuming youtube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The intrusive ads are annoying and I don't find the content valuable enough to overcome that.

  20. Ads? What ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean those things I haven't seen in years since I started using Adblock?

  21. Or you can just install adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Advertising became so intrusive and so in your face I had enough. I'm never click on those ads and I never support sites in that manner. Adblock and Adblock element hider made CNN useable, facebook tolerable and a plethora of other sites better.
    Now with cookies that follow you around and deliver customer focused ads it's getting kinda personal.

    Being part of a marketing group at an international company I know how deep that tracking goes as it shows up in reports. Where you went after us, what you did, etc. I'd rather just not participate.

  22. I have an alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Self-hosted HTML5 videos.

    And you can do more with that server besides.

  23. Ad Block is free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get that instead.

  24. Ad free...until they reach critical mass by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 5, Interesting

    >> I'd happily pay a higher monthly fee not to have the ads

    You must be new to the planet. Remember when the promise of cable TV was "you pay for it, so it's ad-free!" Once YouTube has a critical population writing monthly checks for content, they'll surely add the ads back in.

    1. Re:Ad free...until they reach critical mass by crmudgen23 · · Score: 1

      >> Once YouTube has a critical population writing monthly checks for content, they'll surely add the ads back in.

      Thank you, this was my first exact thought! Anyone old enough to remember when Cable TV first came on the market, subscriptions were marketed as "you pay a subscription fee, so we won't have commercials" We all know how that worked out. It's just another "thin edge of the wedge" scenario.. lube up the thin edge, delicately place it in, apply ever increasing pressure until you're so stretched out you wonder how we got here. Ughhhhhh.. lather, rinse, repeat....

    2. Re:Ad free...until they reach critical mass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good god, I hope you lathered and rinsed, a lot. As for me, I'd rather not repeat that scenario. It sounded painful.

    3. Re:Ad free...until they reach critical mass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be new to the planet. Here subscriptions aren't for life, they can be canceled by the customer.

    4. Re:Ad free...until they reach critical mass by NitWit005 · · Score: 1

      Premium cable TV you mean? Cable was originally mostly rebroadcasts of transmissions that already had ads in it for people that couldn't get a signal.

      Most media companies dream of having everyone paying a monthly fee instead of relying on ads. You have to constantly seek out people to sell ad space to and you're always at the mercy of the price of ads and seasonal changes. The usual issue is that people are totally unwilling to pay anywhere near what advertisers will pay to show them ads. Youtube's per-person income is low enough that some people will probably happily pay.

  25. Lousy ads on Xbox360 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hulu Plus on my Xbox360 is so terrible that I might just switch back to piracy for convenience. They play the SAME ADS OVER AND OVER, it's like something out of a Clockwork Orange.

    1. Re:Lousy ads on Xbox360 by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      I can't believe they're still making the mistake of giving an inferior product to what the pirates get... I don't use the service, is it paid? If you're paying to watch ads, yeah, I'd go right back to piracy too. As for me, I never left piracy, but I don't watch much TV or movies anyway.

    2. Re:Lousy ads on Xbox360 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Previous AC)
      Yep, it's paid. For a while I was thinking I'd waste more time looking for a good pirated copy than I would watching ads, but I think I discounted the cost of brainwashing by too much.

  26. Family plan or no sale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not going to just get it for me. I can easily ad-block, it's everyone else in the house that may have issues because they may or may not be using a device that has ad-block installed.

  27. you know it's coming... by funkymonkjay · · Score: 2

    enjoy adblockers while it lasts. you know they'll embed the ads right in to the stream. then we'll have to resort to some dvr like client to fast forward.

    1. Re:you know it's coming... by itzly · · Score: 1

      Before they can put ads in the stream, they would need to prevent random skipping. And not being able to skip randomly would make the videos unusable.

  28. Ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Youtube has ads?

    I guess my subscription free noscript/ABP must be ahead of the times.

  29. I won't pay for YouTube by koolphoto · · Score: 2

    I'd rather watch the ads. Though, annoying, I don't wait long. I don't need to pay another subscription service especially YouTube. I'd rather spend it on Hulu+ and Netflix.

    1. Re:I won't pay for YouTube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or how about use adblock instead? Don't need to pay anything and won't see any ads. Win-win for us and lose-lose for Google for becoming another M$.

  30. Hmmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First you censor comments, now this...YouTube us dead too me

  31. Price needs to be realistic (low) by timmyf2371 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For this to work and reach a mass market, the price needs to be (i) realistic and (ii) generate an impulse purchase.

    There are too many subscription services out there; everyone wants their £5 per month or £7.99 per month or £9.99 per month, and it all adds up. I think an ad-free YouTube at £1.99 per month would entice a lot of people. Any more would probably not be worth it.

    BTW, Adblock is great and I love it. But it doesn't stop the adverts which sometimes play before a video when I'm using the YouTube app on my iPhone.

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    1. Re:Price needs to be realistic (low) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, CBS just came out at $6/month for videos that had previously been free (albeit with copious ads). I pirated the last five episodes of the series that I'd been watching and called it quits with CBS instead of handing them any money. I think that's the way that losing streaming video companies are headed: the NetFlix model works for NetFlix, so everyone else thinks they should go for the same model and price point, despite most companies (like CBS) not having content that's as diverse or good as NetFlix (which, frankly, had the better shows out of CBS' catalogue anyway). Companies are going to have to lower their expectations: most content isn't worth $6/month (which is $72/year!), and the more crowded the market gets, competition means that people aren't going to pay for every content provider, just the best one (or maybe two). YouTube's model is wiser: continue offering free videos with ads for casual viewers who don't feel like ponying up, and allow addicts to pay.

      YouTube has been changing subtly, though. If you clear your cookies and don't stay logged in, you'll have noticed that the youtube home page, which used to show lists of the most popular clips on YouTube, now shows a bunch of lists from comedy and talk shows, as well as other promoted channels. It looks like they're starting to embrace professional content providing companies more, which is a bit silly, since YouTube's best successes are the indy channels. If they push too much traffic to the same promoted channels, they'll get stale and the hotness will move on to some other site (vimeo would be my first guess).

    2. Re:Price needs to be realistic (low) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the web-based adblock is flawless in my experience

    3. Re:Price needs to be realistic (low) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BTW, Adblock is great and I love it. But it doesn't stop the adverts which sometimes play before a video when I'm using the YouTube app on my iPhone.

      That's because you're watching on a shitty phone. (And make no mistake, all phones are shitty for web browsing when compared to a desktop.)

      Adblock for Android only blocks on known wi-fi networks. If you're on a cell tower or just forgot to set up the ABP proxy for the wi-fi network you're on, you still get ads. Meanwhile, the desktop ABP can be augmented with NoScript and Flashblock to prevent ANYTHING from loading until it has a chance to process it.

      I have yet to see a YouTube ad on any of my desktops while running my locked-down browser. And I don't use YouTube from any non-locked-down browser.

      AdBlock Plus, NoScript, Flashblock, RequestPolicy, NoRedirect, Ghostery. Not much gets past them yet, and when it does, you can bet that I'll be figuring out how they did it and plugging that leak ASAFP.

      No ads. No exceptions. If I see an ad, I'll plug the hole and probably never visit that site ever again. (The last one was TigerDirect, using a script to disable a meta redirect in the header of the page, which, if NoScript was installed, wouldn't run and would cause the redirect to fire off to a "you suck because you don't have javascript and our shitty site can't cram ads up your ass without it" page. Nevermind the fact that the entire page was visible and functional for about 2 or 3 seconds before the redirect occurred. That's when I found NoRedirect. I haven't been back to TigerDirect's site since sticking it to their NoScript detection that day.)

    4. Re:Price needs to be realistic (low) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On this side of the Channel, we had this idea of a global license that payed the content creator. Paying the distributors (streaming or ddl sites) or not (sneakernet or p2p) wasn't part of the equation. It would have made the content payed for, fairly, without a big player (probably located in some uncooperative place) being virtually the sole legit distributor, free to bully the creators into whatever profit sharing they wanted.

      Then majors came and said they'd rather pretend we were living before tapes existed.

    5. Re:Price needs to be realistic (low) by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      Fuck that, I'd be expecting WhatsApp type pricing, of $1/year.

    6. Re:Price needs to be realistic (low) by RyoShin · · Score: 1

      I'd like them to experiment with different payment options. Possible options:
      1) Flat fee, no ads ever
      2) Tiered fees, going from no ads to ads for some things but not others, or only X ads/day
      3) Micro fees, where you load up your account and can choose to pay Y cents to not view ads for this view, Z cents to not view for a day, etc.

      Regarding micro fees, I've always wanted to see suppliers that do both one-time payments and recurring payments have a system that will automatically put you in the recurring payment option if you spend enough to reach it for that month. As an example, say that Youtube offers both micro- (say, 25c/video) and monthly- ($5/mo) fees. You only watch four or five videos a month but would like no ads when you do, so you opt for the micro- option and choose when to not see ads. In a particular month you watch 20 videos for whatever reason, and because you hit that $5 line the system automatically upgrades you to the Monthly type for that month; it's not recurring, and you no longer have to make a payment for a video for that month. I think this would encourage more micro transaction use from light users, as there's the minor incentive that if they wind up spending a lot in micro payments they'll get the monthly service (for the remainder of the month) anyway.

      I'm not aware of any service that offers a setup like this, but I've never gone looking.

  32. Re:days of adblockers and downloaders are numbered by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

    They already have an effective way to block Vimeo downloads. None of the in-browser extensions work. It's only a matter of time before that spreads to all of YT.

    --
    I am becoming gerund, destroyer of verbs.
  33. Re:Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know there is no god because I keep praying for you to die of cancer, and yet you're still here.

    Thanks for shattering my religious beliefs, assfucker.

  34. I just bypass the ads... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a script that I run to bypass the ads on u-yube.
    It take about 6 minutes to run, but I don't have to deal with the ads.

    CAP = 'presents'

  35. they paying me for MY content I put there? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or are they just making money from it...

  36. will need income to pay comcast and other ISP's fo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    will need income to pay comcast and other ISP's for getting on the fast lane

  37. I have a better idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What about paying us to watch ads? That would be a better incentive. Give the target audience a cut of the advertising revenue. I don't think we would mind watching advertisements if it was paying for our bandwidth.

  38. Re:Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And your piece of shit malware does none of that either.

  39. Re:Ask yourselves these questions... apk by DocSavage64109 · · Score: 1

    He may actually be dead. It's obvious a bot sent these replies as it's happened several times within this thread.

  40. I use adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am an hero.

  41. Re:Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for proving apk's points on hosts' superiority to adblock with that evasion of yours avoiding apk's questions in that regard. There must be a God out there since he provides apk with fools like you that make him look good!

  42. Will users pay vs ad based? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The real question, is how many people will subscribe to YouTube vs put up with all the ads? After I dumped cable TV a few years ago I started a quest to try out online content. Eventually I settled on Netflix, Amazon and occasionally Xbox for content. I enjoy the occasional YouTube video but nothing I would be willing to pay a monthly fee for. The ads are a bit annoying but again nothing I would pay to remove.

  43. Bundle with Netflix/Amazon/Hulu by ZombieBraintrust · · Score: 1

    Instead of selling this directly to customers they should work out deals with existing subscription services. Subscribe to Netflix and Youtube is add free. Subscribe to Hulu Plus and Youtube is add free. They would get less money per subscriber but have alot more subscribers.

  44. Or make search add free as well. by ZombieBraintrust · · Score: 1

    Or they could increase it's value by making search also add free for subscribers. A subscribtion would remove ads from all Google products. Search, Google Plus, and GMail. No adds and no data collection for subscribers.

  45. Re:Ask yourselves these questions... apk by alvinrod · · Score: 1

    Well if his bot code sucks that bad, I'm obviously not going to trust his hosts file solution either.

  46. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  47. Paying for car videos? No thanks. by sinij · · Score: 1

    Paying for car videos? No thanks, I have my own cat. So are most readers here.

    1. Re: Paying for car videos? No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I'd pay to see your cat drive your car.

    2. Re:Paying for car videos? No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No thanks, I have my own cat.

      I'm allergic, you insensitive clod. My only contact with Mittens is via Skype and YouTube videos.

  48. Charge a subscription for copyright they don't own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Nice, so Google can just charge for everyone else's content they don't own copyright to now?

    If this were any other company in the world talking about doing this they would be sued into oblivion.

    But since Google is owned directly by the NSA and CIA, this is perfectly acceptable to you retarded sheep, and all copyright holders.

  49. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  50. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  51. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  52. Youtube has ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have not seen any advertisements. Does Youtube use pop-up ads? Maybe the Firefox is blocking pop-up ads? Hmm.

  53. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  54. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  55. Re:days of adblockers and downloaders are numbered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    None of the in-browser extensions work.

    please dont tell that to the developers of the extension i am using right now with 100% success rate on the videos the kids want.

  56. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  57. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  58. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  59. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  60. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  61. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  62. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  63. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  64. Wrong: True story, AdBlock vs. Hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

    I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

    Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

    He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

    ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

    Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

  65. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  66. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  67. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  68. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  69. How about using this model for all Google services by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

    Maybe if this works, Google could offer a version of all of their services that no longer tracks your individual activity for ad revenue.

    Of course, Google insists that their tracking is only done to make their services work better - and beyond targeted ads, which would go away, there are still many aspects of Google services that wouldn't work as well without tracking you. But at least the tradeoff would be clearer - and if you paid them, but still allowed tracking for the purpose of providing more appropriate search results, maybe they could re-establish a trust relationship where it's been lost (or deliberately eroded - e.g. the "Scroogled" ad campaign).

    --
    Posted from my Android phone. Oh, I can change this? There, that's better...
  70. Adblock Plus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Again, it has to be said, browsing with and without something like Adblock Plus is a totally different experience. I continually forget just how BAD the YouTube experience has become if you're not using a decent adblocker. A paid subscription like this would be hard to justify given I've already been browse YT without ads for years. I dunno - throw in the ability to easily download 1080p versions of videos if available and it might be worth it.

  71. Adblock Plus by ksemlerK · · Score: 1

    Already does this. I haven't seen an advertisement on youtube in years.

  72. Re:Charge a subscription for copyright they don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is exactly what I was thinking when I read the summary.

    If this were any other company in the world talking about doing this they would be sued into oblivion.

    Google may still be sued. If I remember correctly, Google has been sued before over financial gain with other people's content on youtube. Ah, here's the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....

    According to that Wikipedia link (yes, do more research.) the case was settled based on lack of knowledge of infringement on youtube's part. However, I'd doubt that would have been the case if Google had been charging subscription fees.

    The DMCA allows a safe-harbor (protection from being held liable for copyright infringement of users) for internet service providers if they meet certain requirements. See section 512c in US Code Title 17: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/U...

    One of those requirements is no direct financial benefit. This goes away if Google starts moving to a paid subscription model for Youtube content. (I'd imagine even if it's for removing ADs only, they would still get sued.)

    I fully expect to see Google get dragged back into court again over this. I just wonder what affect it will / may have have on other services.

  73. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  74. Re: How about using this model for all Google serv by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You seem to think G wants to do good things. They want to have as much information from everyone. Always. As far as I am concerned G is as bad as any criminal. I'd never pay for anything from that company.

  75. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  76. Just get the YouTubeCenter FF ad-on by SD-Arcadia · · Score: 1

    https://github.com/YePpHa/YouT... youtube fucking your way.

    --
    https://dalgamotor.wordpress.com/ - Elektronik beyinlere ozgurluk asisi (Turkish)
  77. Re:How about using this model for all Google servi by aralin · · Score: 1

    Yes. Every online service should have this option. I would even require it by law. I don't mind to pay for my privacy and my time. This was my main gripe with Hulu for example. There has to be price that will make it worth it for them not to show me ads. I want them to take my money, but no... there is no option of that. So I am not customer. No service without this option would have me as a customer.

    If you don't pay, you are the product.

    --
    If programs would be read like poetry, most programmers would be Vogons.
  78. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  79. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  80. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  81. Re:Charge a subscription for copyright they don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know that they give something like 55% of the ad revenue to the owners of the videos. The popular YouTubers pull in more money then you, making just a couple videos a week.

  82. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  83. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  84. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  85. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  86. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  87. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  88. We've heard this before... by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

    That was the big selling point of Cable TV when it came out in the 70's...remember? By paying a subscription fee, subscribers could watch ad-free TV. We all know how well that worked!

  89. Make it a $1 a year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...and I would gladly pay. I curious to see if that yield even more than Double-Click's revenue stream with a torrent!

  90. Cable had no ads for a while too by neoform · · Score: 1

    Remember when cable had no ads? Lets see how long the "no ads with subscription" lasts.

    --
    MABASPLOOM!
  91. Addendum: True story, AdBlock vs. Hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

    I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

    Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

    He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

    ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

    Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

  92. Re:How about using this model for all Google servi by HideyoshiJP · · Score: 1

    I thought the same. I'd like to see a control panel that lets you dial these settings if you were a subscriber. Unfortunately, you're still probably screwed when it comes to Google Analytics on machines you weren't signed into Google on.

  93. Re: How about using this model for all Google serv by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

    It's exactly the opposite. You seem to assume Google wants to do bad things. They don't want to have as much information from everyone. Their business model isn't to be Big Brother and use this information to control us. They've built useful services that by their very nature need that information to work. Google Now would have nothing to show you if it weren't monitoring your email. Where this gets dicey is that Google has chosen to make these services 'free' by funding them with advertising. They don't want your information, they do want to place those ads. It's not evil - you're getting useful services, and the advertisers are getting ads that are theoretically more effective. But it can get creepy. That's why a non-ad supported option might be nice. Google gets their money from you, and the only thing they use your info for is to provide you with a great service that you're willing to pay for.

    Certainly worth a thought experiment - and no need to derail that by indulging your paranoia.

    --
    Posted from my Android phone. Oh, I can change this? There, that's better...
  94. Re:days of adblockers and downloaders are numbered by wbo · · Score: 1

    Vimeo allows the video uploader to choose whether or not to permit downloads. If the uploader allows downloads, links to download the video appear right below the video.

    However, it is trivially easy to download videos even if downloads are not allowed. Just use the HTML5 player and the link to the video in MP4 format is right there in the video tag on the page, easily obtained by viewing the source of the page or using a browser extension.

    Now Youtube uses a totally different system and is a bit more complicated but not much. There are quite a few browser extensions that work well to download the videos.

    In most cases you have to download the video and audio streams separately and then mux them together since most new videos are using DASH, but that is easily done using ffmpeg or any other MPEG4 compatible muxer.

  95. Re:Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hahaha, disregard my retarded posts. I SUCK COCKS!!!!

  96. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  97. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  98. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  99. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  100. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  101. Re:Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes.

  102. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  103. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  104. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  105. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  106. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  107. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  108. Funny all you've got is downmods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On apk's posts where he shows hosts are superior to adblock on every level and you can't prove him wrong so you downmod instead. Pitiful.

  109. Re:Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stupid posts like yours don't prove apk wrong that hosts are better than adblock nor are your downmods of his posts either. Do you think you're fooling anyone but yourself?

  110. Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AdBlock can't do what hosts can from this list here http://news.slashdot.org/comme... or even a fraction of what's in it for more speed, security, reliability and you know it, hence your weak downmods but not proving apk wrong on a single point validly from that list. You fail.

  111. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  112. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  113. Addendum: True story, AdBlock vs. Hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

    I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

    Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

    He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

    ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

    Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

  114. Hosts do all apk said (more than adblock) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Better too. You can't prove apk wrong on hosts being better than adblock by a mile.

  115. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing far more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  116. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do these 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  117. If it is, why would you expect anything different by fuzzy2k · · Score: 1

    to be posted here? Perhaps it is an example of online mob rule. Chances are, any response here will be along the same lines.

    --
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