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Australian Courts Will Be Able To See Your Browsing History
An anonymous reader writes A series of slips by the nation's top cop followed by communications minister Malcolm Turnbull has made Australia's data retention bill even more of a potential horror than it seemed when it was introduced last week, writes Richard Chirgwin in an article about Australia's new legislation. "Lawyers are already gathering, telling the ABC's PM program that metadata could be demanded in family law cases and insurance cases." It continues, with the inevitable result that your internet browsing history will be used against people trying to resist demands during divorce. "What's depressing is that Australians probably won't take to the streets about this issue."
How is that going to work with HTTPS and DuckDuckGo?
What's depressing is that Australians probably won't take to the streets about this issue.
Really? I'm surprised Australians are even still allowed to take to the streets!
If I can be modded down for being a troll, can I be modded up for being an orc, or a balrog?
This is what the Australians get from the government they recently elected. Maybe that's what the majority wanted and they're going to get it. Might be a warning about what Americans will get after November 4, 2014.
Are there any politicians in the anglosphere that are effective advocates for privacy?
Articles in El Reg are grand, but we need people in power who make this an issue and make the case for applying the basic principles of privacy to this still-new technology.
Given a choice, most people want more privacy, and can see the 'if you're not doing anything wrong' argument for the sophistry that it is.
But since the opposition is arguing that they're stopping criminals at home and enemies abroad, it is hard to get people to stick their necks out for privacy. I don't do it myself; posting as AC on slashdot is not a brave act.
Which is why we need a charismatic, intelligent and well-spoken politician in one of our countries to take up the mantle. Then the rest of us can follow him or her.
with the inevitable result that your internet browsing history will be used against people trying to resist demands during divorce.
why would my internet history be used against others in divorce court? I don't see how that kind of evidence would be relevant.
This just adds insult to injury, because it's so true.
It's very difficult to get most of us (Australians) to take to the streets. That's one thing I envy about citizens of many other regions (Europe, South America, Asia): they manifest their anger as physical demonstrations. Aussies just whine. I don't know why we're so lazy when it comes to defending our political rights.
You don't see how AshleyMadison.com might be relevant to a divorce case?
And now the sheep can use your internet history to prove it.
"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
"Which is why we need a charismatic, intelligent and well-spoken politician in one of our countries to take up the mantle. Then the rest of us can follow him or her."
Why don't you grow some balls and take action instead of waiting for some hero to save you like a damsel in distress?
Apart from the fact that browsing history isn't part of the meta data they want to store.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbull-introduces-legislation-for-metadata-retention-scheme-20141030-11e101.html
"The bill does not explain exactly what constitutes metadata, but it will not include the content of calls or emails, web browsing history or website addresses (URLs)."
Does not apply to community networks which are independent and not ISPs.
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The law will become outdated when people bend around it with things like this.
Just like DRM this will only hurt consumers not the ones actually doing harm.
HAMs also use digital technologies and packet radio, I'm sure if terrorists *ahem* people wanted they could use CB or some other frequencies and encryption to plot terror stuffs. This is about terrorism still right?
The right to assembly, right to associate, right to protest are not protected in Australia. Various states offer differing protections, with some of these rights being outlawed decades ago. This why the federal government must not have the power to ignore the courts, which is trying to give itself the power to do just that; for national security, of course.
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As if anyone would bother anymore. It's been clearly shown that protesting, for the most part, doesn't do jack shit. The Government ignores the protests anyway, so there's nothing to be gained from it apart from some weird looks from bystanders. That, and honestly we have it pretty good compared to many other countries. People are reluctant to rock the boat as it were.
Believe me it's got very depressing knowing that virtually none of the mainstream media was highlighting the disgusting actions this Government has been taking so far and the backwards policies they're pushing. After a while you learn to appreciate the fact that this is just a consequence of westerners having it far too good for too long and not recognizing when things are (potentially) going in the wrong direction.
In any event, this will probably be something that sounds bad but will have little (if any) practical effect when implemented.
This is exactly what is needed -- how long will it be before a prominent politician is sued and his browsing history is demanded by the party that is suing?
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
If you need a warrant to view a browser history, then "relevant" comes into it, because you have to justify the search. If you can get the history freely, then you can use post-hoc justification, tuning your claim to fit the evidence you obtained.
She wants custody of the child?, you allege child abuse, find some porn surfing that says 'naughty teens', bingo good enough. A common tactic.
She claims spousal abuse, find some website you've visited showing some news about horrific crime, conflate you and the crime.
She wants more maintenance, pull links of articles of yachts and imply hidden wealth.
Facebook links, gold mine! Potential looking for GF's, plotted the breakdown of the marriage, spousal abuse.
Links to violent games, "he's violent your honor, don't let him have access to the kids".
Links to horror videos, see above.
Read an NRA article, imply he's a gun nut that would shoot her.
You see how that works?
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I know of gutless men who cheat on child support who have the nerve to tell judges that they can not afford their child support. Their expenses at the strip clubs are substantial. Their beer budgets are offensive and on top of that they smoke cigarettes. Imagine a court room where all of their money was tracked and then let the judge decide what is fair for their children's support.
A number of VPN services allow you to pay with bitcoin to make it harder to tie it to an individual.
easier to ask google and Facebook for that info.
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Australian Courts Will Be Able To See Your Browsing History
How are they going to get their mitts on my browsing history? Are you sure you didn't mean Australians' browsing histories?
Furthermore, the article says might, not will.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Australia seems to reslly be trying hard at this. I am amazed that there are not more protesters in the street actually.
Firefox:
History -> Clear Recent History
And just for good measure clear down the .mozilla directory manually.
Unless they plan on forcing ISPs to store every single URL that every single person in australia accesses 24/7/365.
In some Islamic countries if you dare to search for the above you will automatically be tagged by the authority as A CRUSADER !!
So be forewarned !
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
Just remember guys, if you read Linuxjournal.de the NSA considers you to be an "extremist". Because Linuxjournal is an extremist forum. So they are going to be watching the Linux community quite closely. Which makes sense considering that technology hackers are the largest threat to the established powers. Especially now with sub $1500 metal 3d printers starting to come online. As home manufacturing grows the Open Source community will only become a larger threat to bad/wasteful governments. Seriously though, we should all be angry. Angry that our money, is being used for this shit, instead of fixing real problems, building real hospitals/roads/fibre internet/healthy environment/industries/helping people. We should all be angry that this is being done and noone voted for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Women vote, compulsorily in Oz. Politicians know this well and tailor their policies to cater to womens' interests carefully. These are not only the WomensLib equality laws, but moreso woman-friendly laws/procedures for family courts (which are important for more women).
As a result, expect browsing history to be [un]fair game -- more men browse pr0n than women (who prefer romance novels.)
they can't see mine , im in fucking caanda you retards...haha
OH and all id do is keep two browsers one that wont spy on me and one this will
then they can get fucked
...always a penal colony.
that this will inevitably lead to kangaroo courts?
I had to work for a company here in the U.S. that was bought out by Australian assholes. The job ended with me in the emergency room after having a complete mental breakdown, and PTSD. Australia and it's bullshit can go fuck itself.
Defense: "And I present Exibit A, which contains the browsing history of my client..."
Client:"I'd rather just confess the murder..."
... oh, wait.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Your now lesser significant other just has to send the kids browsing cheater websites at the right time. You lose.
I'll take to the airport. I'll be taking my EE/CS type degree with me. Enjoy your brain drain you Facist shitholes. Not like there's any jobs here anymore because you dickheads didn't invest any of that mining boom money into teching up our dying manufacturing sector into something the Chinese can't clone. I suggest others do the same. If you grew up here you'll know as I do, that intellectual types aren't wanted anyway.
I’m having an inkling of an idea, perhaps others more tech savvy could refine/expand/adapt it, but why not do the opposite and flood the logs, make them so large to the point where they no longer have any value and become impractical?
For example: say if I was thinking on designing an open source google search replacement and that I had to learn how to index pages etc and do to that I had to link-crawl lots (and lots and lots) of webpages and say if I put that up on github (or like) so that other Aussies could download and help out and say if the Aussie development community really got behind it and 100's (1000's? 10,000's!!!) got behind the development and or testing of it?
I know, a few "ifs" and disk space, PC power etc is increasing all the time and it would take an almighty effort - therefore the idea might just be unrealistic - but this is /.
Using this doll, show the court where the koala touched you...