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Australian Courts Will Be Able To See Your Browsing History
An anonymous reader writes A series of slips by the nation's top cop followed by communications minister Malcolm Turnbull has made Australia's data retention bill even more of a potential horror than it seemed when it was introduced last week, writes Richard Chirgwin in an article about Australia's new legislation. "Lawyers are already gathering, telling the ABC's PM program that metadata could be demanded in family law cases and insurance cases." It continues, with the inevitable result that your internet browsing history will be used against people trying to resist demands during divorce. "What's depressing is that Australians probably won't take to the streets about this issue."
What's depressing is that Australians probably won't take to the streets about this issue.
Really? I'm surprised Australians are even still allowed to take to the streets!
If I can be modded down for being a troll, can I be modded up for being an orc, or a balrog?
with the inevitable result that your internet browsing history will be used against people trying to resist demands during divorce.
why would my internet history be used against others in divorce court? I don't see how that kind of evidence would be relevant.
If using DuckDuckGo, then maybe you'll be presumed to have had something to hide; therefore, you automatically lose the action.
Such is the way of tyrannical systems which don't respect personal privacy...
Or TOR. Of course, that makes you a terror suspect. But their arrogance and stupidity has angered me enough that I make it a point of doing part of my browsing through TOR now.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
And now the sheep can use your internet history to prove it.
"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
+1, Insightful. If you believe something, you should lead by example--from the front. Otherwise your belief isn't worth the hot air it's made of.
I can see that potentially being twisted as lawyer speak for not including the "content of [...] web browsing history" meaning they won't store the actual page, just the URL for reference later.
Both Labor and Liberals support this. Its going to happen no matter who you vote for.
Get a good VPN out to a another country.
A good VPN would just show a VPN ip range as logged with your ISP.
Ensure the VPN covers all web use and services not just basic webpage use.
Laws could always change about how a VPN product is understood by the gov.
That VPN could be in a country with bilateral agreements, multilateral treaties or has same banking understandings.
The use of an Australian credit card is an issue. Track Australian credit card use to find VPN users. No local isp paperwork needed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
A request for details about VPN use in other countries might just results in CC lists been sent back.
Five eyes, nations friendly with the five eye nations make a VPN selection interesting.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Your link and request would be seen as a ip range to the search engine. The startpage.com search engine has settings.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
The right to assembly, right to associate, right to protest are not protected in Australia. Various states offer differing protections, with some of these rights being outlawed decades ago. This why the federal government must not have the power to ignore the courts, which is trying to give itself the power to do just that; for national security, of course.
It would be better to cover every packet in and out for daily use, maybe a clean VM with a browser out to a good VPN.
Talking out against logging, an internet tax to pay for it, would see such views been noted by the gov as insights go public.
Australia has a long history of tracking all people who speak out on political, anti war, environmental issues at a state and federal level.
Once you are of interest expect your computer to get gov quality malware crafted just for that user.
No escape, every keystroke is then fair game.
Consumer grade heuristic and behavioural AV protection would just see another safe user installed application running.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
An Australian version of COINTELPRO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... would just find every charming, photogenic person speaking in public about logs and an internet tax.
It would be like the Vietnam war protests all over again.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
This is exactly what is needed -- how long will it be before a prominent politician is sued and his browsing history is demanded by the party that is suing?
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
That would be an interesting thought experiment for two local film students.
Film the buyiny the hardware to connect. Set up and log in.
The two film students could then chat about complex movie ideas without been on a traditional ISP.
Then just chat about history in very interesting ways with out mentioning a script and plot every few lines.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Both Labor and Liberals support this. Its going to happen no matter who you vote for.
No it's not. Vote for the Greens!
Why don't you grow some balls and take action instead of waiting for some hero to save you like a damsel in distress?
Says the AC.
A number of VPN services allow you to pay with bitcoin to make it harder to tie it to an individual.
Be careful what you wish for. I for one certainly don't want Melbourne to copy Athens just because the current government are a pack of "one term" cunts. Besides there are plenty of large political protests in Melbourne on all sorts of issues. Those people just don't attach the same priority to this issue as you do. If you want to know what gets Melbourne "out on the streets" then have a look at the tag cloud in thislist of Melbourne protests covering several recent years, privacy, the internet, and ASIO don't even rate a tag.
By world standards Aussies have an active and peaceful protest culture and I would like it to stay that way. Just because masses of people are not smashing shop windows and burning cars while protesting about what personally upsets you today doesn't mean everyone is complacent about politics in general. The fact you can't perceive that makes me think that you're the one who isn't paying attention to the local political climate. If you are really serious then get out on the street yourself and tell others why you are there, with social media and the like it's never been easier and cheaper to organise a protest about your pet issue.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
Toughen the fuck up, you whiney bitch!
I mean that in the nicest possible way. You know that, right?
You sure you're not an Aussie?
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
Actually this is the start of the end. Next will be the anti Muslim pogroms and finally the oppression of political dissidents. Actually considering moving to the USA for gun access. Once the housing market pops, things are going to get nasty.
The Attorney General (Brandis) specifically ruled it out in a press conference. Sure he's a lying arsehole and I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him, but that's why we have independent courts that won't let him change his mind now without more legislation specifically enabling it.
We all know that Brandis has no clue what 'metadata' data means, there's plenty of clips on YT attesting to his ignorance. Turnbull and Brandis are ideological 'enemies' within the same party, both are strong candidates for the current PM's job (who is in the same ideological camp as Brandis). My guess is that Turnbull has convinced him to announce those things won't be included. Turnbull is an "old fashioned" conservative who wants to lead the party back toward the center after it's violent lurch to the "bogan right" at the last election. He's a previous party leader and he has sunk more than one of these proposals in the past from the inside, I'm fairly confident he will do the same again this time around, assuming the announcement by Brandis hasn't already done that.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
"If you've done nothing wrong, you've nothing to hide"?
Just today, as a result of following links from Slashdot or the BBC, or looking up or following up on things mentioned in those places, I've browsed several pages about Alessandra and Benito Mussolini, sodomy laws, some stupid anime video on YouTube of which I only watched the first 5-10 seconds (but which now shows up in my YT history just as if I'd actually looked at the whole thing), a 1990s serial killer in Washington State, nuclear proliferation, and the status of women under Islam.
A crafty lawyer or government agent could try to turn that into... God knows what... about me. In court. Where the burden of proof is suddenly shifted on *me* to prove that I'm not a closet Neo-Fascist/homosexual/serial killer/nuclear terrorist/misogynist/anime fan.
KGFY.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
"The bill does not explain exactly what constitutes metadata" - yet. It will do so before it becomes law since all sides have publicly stated it will be defined.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
Imagine a court room where all of their money was tracked and then let the judge decide what is fair for their children's support.
Imagine a court room with the power to subpoena Dad's financial records if there's reason to suspect he's being substantially less than honest...
(...wait for it...)
...which the court already has.
But thanks for playing.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Australian Courts Will Be Able To See Your Browsing History
How are they going to get their mitts on my browsing history? Are you sure you didn't mean Australians' browsing histories?
Furthermore, the article says might, not will.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Firefox:
History -> Clear Recent History
And just for good measure clear down the .mozilla directory manually.
Unless they plan on forcing ISPs to store every single URL that every single person in australia accesses 24/7/365.
In some Islamic countries if you dare to search for the above you will automatically be tagged by the authority as A CRUSADER !!
So be forewarned !
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
Just remember guys, if you read Linuxjournal.de the NSA considers you to be an "extremist". Because Linuxjournal is an extremist forum. So they are going to be watching the Linux community quite closely. Which makes sense considering that technology hackers are the largest threat to the established powers. Especially now with sub $1500 metal 3d printers starting to come online. As home manufacturing grows the Open Source community will only become a larger threat to bad/wasteful governments. Seriously though, we should all be angry. Angry that our money, is being used for this shit, instead of fixing real problems, building real hospitals/roads/fibre internet/healthy environment/industries/helping people. We should all be angry that this is being done and noone voted for it.
Whoa ... What have you been smoking?
Not that I think what you are saying is not possible, more that it will take the Australian government (and associated agencies) more coordination, competence and unity to reach such abilities. And I've never been witness to any such of the three stated capabilities.
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Then the crafty defender would be charged with contempt of court and defamation. Do you like prison so much? When are you going to understand that you do not antagonize people in a position of power, ever?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Women vote, compulsorily in Oz. Politicians know this well and tailor their policies to cater to womens' interests carefully. These are not only the WomensLib equality laws, but moreso woman-friendly laws/procedures for family courts (which are important for more women).
As a result, expect browsing history to be [un]fair game -- more men browse pr0n than women (who prefer romance novels.)
And don't forget to test for DNS Leaks after you've got it setup:
https://www.dnsleaktest.com/
A crafty lawyer or government agent could try to turn that into... God knows what... about me. In court. Where the burden of proof is suddenly shifted on *me* to prove that I'm not a closet Neo-Fascist/homosexual/serial killer/nuclear terrorist/misogynist/anime fan.
If the URL was illegal, the government filters should have stopped it. QED
Both Labor and Liberals support this. Its going to happen no matter who you vote for.
No-one wins in a 2 party system.
Re "Not that I think what you are saying is not possible, more that it will take the Australian government (and associated agencies) more coordination, competence and unity to reach such abilities. And I've never been witness to any such of the three stated capabilities."
Whats the hard part?
The tracking of people who speak out on political, anti war, environmental issues was seen during the anti Vietnam war efforts.
So the police interest in any protesters is expected as it was over decades..
The ip storage for 2 years is open to the police and courts. So the legal data logging side is in place ready for open court use.
The gov malware side and interest in Australian computers?
The Surveillance Devices Bill will widen the use of "data surveillance" warrants. So more legal support to install key logging devices.
https://www.efa.org.au/Issues/...
Australia now has the power to find an Australian ip, return the provider details months later and then seek more information from a users computer.
"Data retention will catch pirates" (30/10/2014)
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline...
"Illegal downloads, piracy - sorry, cyber crimes, cyber security."
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
+1 for that. That is what sets some VPN products apart from others. So many different layers can leak depending on the OS or what links, services. Thanks for that Charliemopps.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
[...]unless you drew the ire of someone powerful.
Well, that holds true for pretty much everything, doesn't it? If you've pissed someone off really badly, who wields considerable power, then they will track you down, Tor or not.
...always a penal colony.
that this will inevitably lead to kangaroo courts?
... oh, wait.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Who won't get a majority, so the law will still pass no matter who you vote for.
Actually, as recorded history and newer events show, if you piss of somebody powerful, they will just fake some evidence. They will also find a convenient scapegoat if they cannot identify you.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
You can buy prepaid credit cards at Australia Post for about $7, which allow you to pay for the VPN without being tracked.
Most human behaviour can be explained in terms of identity.
Works for me, maybe you should move to Athens.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
DDG doesn't retain your search history, but your ISP will. Your ISP also retains other browsing history, besides just search. Using a VPN located outside Australia is probably the best solution, if you can afford it.
I'd bet large sums that VPN companies are being quietly tamed by the NSA. Do not trust them.