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Obama Offers Funding For 50,000 Police Body Cameras

An anonymous reader writes: Today President Obama announced $263 million worth of funding for law enforcement agencies around the country to outfit officers with body cameras and improve training. The money requires matching funds from state and local authorities, and the $75 million dedicated to body-cams should buy about 50,000 of them. This is in response to the recent events in Ferguson, Missouri. "Obama also plans to overhaul how the federal government disperses military equipment to local police departments, the White House said Monday. ... The Ferguson police department deployed officers wearing gas masks, military fatigues, stun guns and rubber bullets during the initial protests. Studies show the procurement of military equipment by police departments has been on the rise as law enforcement has been allowed to cheaply purchase gear originally deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan."

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  1. There are issues to resolve... by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Informative

    Up here in Washington State, several police agencies have embraced the idea of Body Cams. And while there has been no philosophical push-back about public access to Body Cam footage by the coppers, a recent Public Records Request illustrates a more fiscal problem...

    A public records request was made for all Body Cam footage for the last year from several local departments that have been experimenting with the technology. Why should this be a probem, after all, just burn it all to a CD and send it to the guy?

    The are three issues: Privacy - not every interaction a police officer has is in a public place or does not contain things than fall under privacy rules.

    Second is commercial use - You know those Mug Shot Extortion sites? The ones that publish mug shots but for a small fee of several hundred dollars will take yours down? Same thing.

    Third is the fiscal issue - The time to parse through a requst for "all your files for the year" for privacy issues and other things that simply should not end up on a commercial "shock" site or YouTube, this will cost a butt-load.

    So it's become an issue. Here is a Seattle Times article on the subject: http://seattletimes.com/html/l...

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    1. Re:There are issues to resolve... by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Insightful

      1. the footage shouldn't be public. there's a lot of interaction that cops deal with which is embarrassing and private for individuals. your underage arrest has to live with you forever? your suicide attempt or domestic issues should be open to prying eyes? no, no, no

      2. the footage shouldn't be under the control of local police departments. "oops, sorry, i 'bumped the server' and we lost the footage of that controversial shooting by my buddy nate. oh well"

      state level? federal level?

      and then really solid rules about who gets to access what footage must be enacted. something similar to HIPAA rules and fines

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    2. Re:There are issues to resolve... by Harlequin80 · · Score: 5, Informative

      QLD Police force use body cams. They are worn at the discretion of the officer but must be on during all times they are patrolling. All the video is time stamped and there needs to be a reason why it was turned off - ie went to the toilet. Turning them off during an incident would get you severely punished here.

      The video is then handed over to a dedicated unit that curates all the data. It is not possible for an officer to access the raw data directly.

      Generally speaking one office in a group wears one when on foot patrol in areas with high alcohol or other related type incidents. So the Valley of Brisbane CBD at night. These have been in place for years and I am not aware of any issues that have arisen from their use.

    3. Re:There are issues to resolve... by Strudelkugel · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Good article on Bloomberg View about this. It's not the panacea some think it is.

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    4. Re:There are issues to resolve... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      have the police face a presumption of guilt for all accusations that aren't on film.

      "On duty, on video."

      "All" that needs to be done is to remove qualified immunity when the camera turns off. Expect thousands of police union lawyers at that hearing - sometimes obvious solutions are impossible if the system isn't optimizing for solutions.

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  2. Why? by Snotnose · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is this a federal charge? While I firmly believe all cops should wear cameras, I also firmly believe individual departments should be paying for them.

    1. Re:Why? by quantaman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why is this a federal charge? While I firmly believe all cops should wear cameras, I also firmly believe individual departments should be paying for them.

      So the departments in poor neighbourhoods with lots of controvertial police interactions also have the cheap crappy cameras that fail all the time?

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    2. Re:Why? by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They can afford to pay for them by not buying up surplus military equipment like they were equipping the army of some banana republic.

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  3. Privacy by Etherwalk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mod parent up.

    Washington State has a very good public records law; but this is sometimes a problem. The press should be able to get police body cam feeds, probably, and certainly on matters of public concern but realistically it causes more harm than good to have all police bodycam feeds publicly available through, for example, data-mining firms.

    Should the time cops broke up that party a kid was at be available, in video, for the rest of the kid's life?

    How about the time the couple at the end of the block fought and a noise complaint got called in? Should future employers be able to get access to recordings of people at the worst moments of their lives?

    1. Re:Privacy by tlhIngan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Should the time cops broke up that party a kid was at be available, in video, for the rest of the kid's life?

      How about the time the couple at the end of the block fought and a noise complaint got called in? Should future employers be able to get access to recordings of people at the worst moments of their lives?

      There already is a wonderful curator. It's called the courts.

      The recordings must be kept, and they're available to the public. All the public needs to do is convince a judge as to what records you want (giving a date and time) and why.

      If you want all the video recorded, then you have to convince a judge as to why they're relevant to you.

      And if the police fail to produce records they should be able to produce, guess what? The judge can order production, or hold the police in contempt.

      So if you're a kid that got recorded during an out of control party, well, your employer needs to be able to convince the judge that that exact incident is relevant for their business.

      For crimes or police harassment, the date and time as well known and the judge can easily demand release of video around that time - even +/- 1 hour to give some leeway.

      But try convincing a judge that you need all video recorded on December 1, 2014 from everyone. The judge will ask you about what incident requires you to have that much video.

  4. Re:not enthuisastic about this by Calavar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pervasive surveillance by law enforcement is a bad thing. Pervasive surveillance of law enforcement is a good thing. And that is what these body cams are: They aren't recording anything that police officers aren't already seeing with their own eyes. Instead, these cameras create a record of officers' actions -- a record that keeps them accountable for said actions.

  5. Re:not enthuisastic about this by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    it just seems another step to pervasive surveillance.

    Unfortunately, there are good reasons for wanting police interaction with the public to be recorded - Rampant police misconduct, and I'm not talking about Furgeson.

    Here is Seattle, our police department is under supervision by the D.O.J. mandated by the Federal Courts after numerous verified "use of force" issues.

    When there is not video, who do you think juries and courts believe?

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  6. Re:Ok the simple math. by Sowelu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Individual hardware is the cheap part--although it does also need to be pretty goddamn ruggedized.

    Departments need new infrastructure: Servers, docking stations, stuff like that. No it's not as easy as plug it in with USB and drag and drop your files--you want this to be a lot more secure than a mountable media drive. Infrastructure is an ongoing cost too, especially with public record requests.

    Training isn't zero, either. Not only do you have to teach people how to operate them (and these aren't all technical people, which means that either training is nontrivial or that docking station really is fancy and expensive), but you also need to teach them policy, really drill it in there. Call it four hours of education and training per user, and the number of users is pretty close to the number of cameras. It's paid training time, so you're covering their salary, management, the organization per-department of those training sessions, hell probably research to make sure you're giving effective training... Look, training and meetings suck, but doing them _right_ is important and it's _expensive_, and you get what you pay for.

    The cost sounds realistic to me.

  7. Re:not enthuisastic about this by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Informative

    it just seems another step to pervasive surveillance.

    Currently they videotape you whenever they want to. Every officer already has the means to tape you if they so choose. The current situation is that they only do record and keep the video when it suits their needs, and they delete it when it's bad for them. The only change here will be the requirement to always record and retain that data.

    For example, were you aware they always record interrogations? (see the video in my sig) but only for their own review to be use against you in court. After they finish the interrogation they intentionally delete it so you can't use it in your defense. They've proven that a jury will more likely believe a police officer stating that you confessed than a video of you actually confessing! So they destroy the audio/video!

    Any and all testimony you make against yourself should be required by law to be taped. There is absolutely no excuse for the current state of things where law enforcements word is trusted implicitly when current technology makes it completely unnecessary to do so. Every statement a person makes to law enforcement could be recorded, virtually for free, and there would then be no need for their testimony at all.

  8. Re:not enthuisastic about this by Bodhammer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    we already have it in the form of everyone with a cell phone camera. if anything remotely interesting in public happens, 5 or 6 people are filming it and its uploaded within the hour and mirrored forever beyond any possible take back within a few hours

    To bad that didn't happen in Ferguson, huh?

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  9. Re:Part of the Solution by Kohath · · Score: 5, Informative

    Police also need to respect citizens. Being on camera all the time will help that at lot. Everyone behaves better when they're on camera.

    Example from the article:

    In 2013, The New York Times reported that the city of Rialto, Calif., was able to cut down on complaints against officers by 88 percent over the previous year when it gave its officers body cameras. Use of force by officers fell by almost 60 percent.

  10. Re: not enthuisastic about this by Rich0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Meh, effectively the same. Which would you rather see, a picture of the officer shooting his gun at somebody, or a picture of what the guy who got shot was doing right before he got shot? If we had the latter in Ferguson there would probably be a lot less looting going on regardless of what the footage showed.

  11. Re: not enthuisastic about this by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I find it hard to believe that every Barney Fife across the country needs to wear a body camera because one cop in Ferguson killed someone that was attacking him.

    Preventing another Ferguson is the catalyst, but certainly not the only reason for copcams. The cameras provide accountability. They reduce violence, since both the cop and the perp will behave better on camera. BIG ONE: They dramatically reduce lawsuits against the police. Partly because there are fewer incidents, but also because there is less dispute about what happened. They also make prosecutions faster and less expensive, since there is no dispute about what was seen or heard by the cop.

    Citations:
    California police body cams cut violence
    Year long study on the effect of Copcams

    Every cop car should have a dashcam.
    Every patrolling cop should have a bodycam.

  12. Re:not enthuisastic about this by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Considering how many witnesses were caught telling multiple, incompatible versions of their story for the grand jury, part of me wonders if someone actually did have a video but kept quiet.

    They didn't need a video. They had abundant physical evidence that debunked the obvious BS that a bunch of the Get Me On The TV types were trying to sell. And then there's the number of witnesses who finally admitted they hadn't seen anything at all, and just told what they assumed (hoped?) had happened, or heard from somebody else.

    There were a core of witnesses who said very similar things, and whose observations were right in line with the physical evidence. It's very telling that most of those witnesses wanted to be sure that their reports would be kept private, and out of the media. Gee, I wonder who they're scared of? Not the police - they went TO the police.

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