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US Internet Offers 10Gbps Fiber In Minneapolis
An anonymous reader writes Christmas came early in Minneapolis! U.S. Internet has announced that they are now offering 10 Gbps service to all of their existing fiber customers. Their prior top tier service was 1 Gbps. The article also goes on to state that they're actively working on rolling out 40 Gbps and 100 Gbps fiber service as well."
I'm pretty sure my wireless access point couldn't handle that kind of throughput.
10Gbps? I'll take 100 Mbps, shit I'll even take 50
That's a good thing, right?
http://opensignal.com/knowledgebase/the-difference-between-megabyte-and-megabit.php
Really, that's the most important benchmark when it comes to internet speed.
More like "Minnetonka Internet."
http://fiber.usinternet.com/coverage-areas/
I'll take a consistent 25Mbit upstream with no caps, usage limits, or throttling.
Downtown Paris has maximum speeds ~800Kbps in parts!
Hello Paris? This is 1997. We'd like our ADSL back.
You mean this wasn't pioneered by AT&T or Comcast or Verizon, etc?
But I thought they were on our side?
there's 3 at home :-u and the best offer is around 10 ...
You should leave Paris.
There is no indication of unit confusion prior to your post.
Not more speed to the same people. It would be nice if wired providers (cable, dsl, or what have you) could spend a tuppence on expansion to unserved areas instead of say lobbying/bribes/etc. Wireless blows and is not very economical for the consumer as the only means of internet access.
This is 1972, we'd like our joke back.
Assuming you're not running major data service out of your house, what's the point of diminishing return for connectivity?
I'm making the assumptions that the link speed you're sold is actually the speed you get and that there are no resource constraints, artificial or real, that would stop you from utilizing the maximum bandwidth.
Do most web sites have per-connection caps on how fast any one connection can download files or data? Could you mount a file store on AWS or any other cloud storage provider and use it like a local NAS disk?
I wanna know when *I* am going to get an internet connection worth a tinker's damn!
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My daughter goes to UofMN and has a very painful 1Mb service in her apartment for $30/month! CL says they are looking to improve the offerings in her building but she is not holding her breath. We haven't been told we can NOT get other service BUT there is currently no other service in her area. No monopoly you say? Wish this service would work its way around the University.
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I know Cat6 can do 10 Gbps, but there must be a dearth of consumer equipment above that. I guess the company could give a four-port router and each port gets 10 Gbps. Maybe they'll sell a ten-port model.
I am having a hard time coming up with anyone that could take advantage of this. I would love gig coverage in my area. Even then, 80% of my internet activity happens on wireless which will not even come close to using 1Gbps let alone 10Gbps. On my wired connections, I occasionally hit my max of 50Mbps but, in most situations, the far end is still a limiter.
Large / medium business, sure. But a household of 4-6 people? Every one of them could be watching their own 4k content while simultaneously downloading isos and video chatting and still couldn't even come close to saturating the link.
Ie what is the ping round trip time to the ISP's router ? With an interactive protocol/application round trip time is as important as bandwidth.
Clarification for anyone wanting a 50 Mbps line.
Progress for the ISP. Now their customes can hit their data cap in the first 10 minutes of the month!
That would imply there is confusion after his post.
Might I suggest using the link he posted then?
Are they guaranteeing throughput? Then it's meaningless for most folks. It's like putting tires rated for 200 MPH on your care and assuming it will now go 200 MPH.
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So much for AT&T claiming that new net neutrality rules would financially hinder them from building out their fiber network!! If this tiny little company can role out 10 Gbps service, offer 1 Gbps service for $65/month, and be actively engaged on getting 40 Gbps and 100 Gbps rolled out in Minneapolis without having to charge companies like Netflix additional fees, then why can't a behemoth like AT&T do the same??
Are they going to drop into every customers home a router capable of 10Gbps of throughput? LOL. That would be expensive.
No, it would imply there is no contextual reason for the link.
I'm getting Free's gigabit FTTH in Febuary. Just wait. Fibre is being deployed. If you're too far from a dslam, it sucks, I know (7mbit now), but it's not going to be better outside of paris.
Horrendous slap in the face to many who struggle to get anything useful. It would be nice to see the big players cut back on their FUD and actually provide the services their customers need at a fair price (novel concept).
We are lucky to have gotten 30/5 Mbps for $35 a month, the price shot up for the 50 and 100 Mbps tiers. However, having a big (or huge) pipe does almost no good when the backbone is puny compared to the need and we all sloooow down in the evening...
If you want malls, freeways, and fiber, live in town.
If you want wide open spaces, live out in the country.
If you insist on having a fiber line run two miles across your neighbors' pastures to reach you, the only interested customer on your road, you can get that too. That two miles of trenching and fiber work isn't going to be cheap - I've priced it.
Clarification for anyone wanting a 50 Mbps line.
Network speeds are always measured in bits per second, never bytes per second. So even if someone is using MB or Mb or mb, it's all mega bits per second. The only pedantic rant you can justify is related to the seldom used '-ibi' suffix and the whole argument of powers of 2 vs. powers of 10 for your progression from Kilo to Mega to Giga to Terra.
The confusion comes from user applications which misleadingly report things like file transfers using bytes.
I got 50/50 of dedicated bandwidth for $100/month
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_rR7LK6cSdQ/VJtXQ1Qge0I/AAAAAAAACvs/9_OTKpyaqng/w746-h875-no/LoadQuality.png
Then you want Charter, if it's available in your area. I have 64 down, 5 up, with no data cap or usage limits or throttling (or none that I've found yet). $49.99/month + taxes
I can stream HD movies to two televisions while watching another HD video online and still see no slowdown while surfing the net. Why would anyone need more than that?
They are using an ethernet solution over fiber so the next steps above 10 are 40 and 100 gig. This is what you can do when you roll out a data network and not an overgrown cable tv network like all the xPON and FTTH, FTTP networks we keep hearing about.
While it's great to get super-fast Internet, we may run into a big problem soon: many web server farms may not have the bandwidth capacity to handle many millions of users who have above 100 megabit/second download speed Internet access at the "last mile" connection. It's going to require a major upgrade of content delivery networks to handle much faster connection end users.
....IT DOESN'T MATTER
1gbps is overkill as it is...lol
most websites can't keep up with that - heck, a lot of them can't keep up with 100mbit.
yeah seriously, and I live in frickin' silicon valley!
I was lucky enough to have access to a home hookup on a lower USI tier for a while. It was of course far and away the best Internets around locally (altho now it's prompted CenturyLink to roll out). Coverage maps here http://fiber.usinternet.com/
Another thing I loved was Comcast was forced to slash its rates in the covered zip codes dramatically, finally resembling a reasonable price. The solid upstream is very good for getting videos online, altho its true that the chokepoint winds up being the Youtube server, not the pipe. The entire time, except when someone doing laundry unplugged the basement router, it never really bogged down & you could tell the peering points were not saturated like is always the Comcast experience.
I happened to run into a bunch of the USI staff at an event & they explained to me that while they didn't have much capital, the little bit they were riding on could suffice to slowly build out the network. It took awhile to develop a process w the city to get easements on the boulevards but now proceeds smoothly. Conveniently everything is reliable (who knew buried optical cables are more reliable than coax on poles?) and the whole city network gets like 4-5 service calls a day. They were actually happy to not have to bother providing TV service w its finicky boxes, because they don't cover the whole city.
The ping times to the U of Minn timeserver at 128.101.101.101 were around 2-4ms if you don't go thru a router.
Obviously they were a bit proud they'd been able to hang in the biz over those years, and considered themselves the "last man standing" against the big monopolies.
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London has the same problem... Old infrastructure, nowhere to locate street cabinets and very difficult to get permission to do any work in the street coupled with relatively few residential customers. Central London is mostly business users, and given the rates these businesses pay for their offices they can afford to have dedicated fibre lines installed.
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While Clearwire may be ending a type of their service this November, if you can get the equipment, wouldn't that be a viable option? Or better yet, look into Sprint who owns Clearwire. I think coverage covers that college, although reception may vary depending on surrounding buildings. Just a thought. Do research first.
...we just write out the individual bits on a post it note, throw it out the window and let the wind blow it to the nearest exchange, where trained koalas use 1800's era telegraph equipment to re-encode the traffic onto the Internet, for us. Because that's faster than the best Internet most of us will ever see.
The units are correct. Yes, I know the difference between a bit and byte. I say 50 because I have AT&T U-Verse and I'm capped at 24/3 (hints it's in MEGABITS PER SECOND for the clueless). They also provide cable so the only other options I have are cell tower wireless (bad latency + low data caps) and satellite (small apartment + high cost + low data caps).
There is basically no competition where I live and I would gladly take 50 MEGABITS PER SECOND as it would be a 2x improvement on the DL.
Seriously...with the continued push by ISPs to cap the amount of information downloaded per month, what good is having faster and faster connections? It only means you'll hit the imaginary cap earlier in the month and end up racking up some severely high "penalties".
Instead of building 10Gbps links to their customers, and retaining the one or two 1Gbps connections to their upstream carriers, why not reverse the idea.. HAve a larger pipe to the Internet, and limit their customers to 100Mbps bilateral connections?
I live in South East Derbyshire and got upgraded to FTTC for free; so from 8Mbit to 60Mbit for the exact same price. Luckily I live quite near to the cabinet.
I have 105/10 service and outside of the need to upload any 'work files' I do not see how a single household is going to consume that much bandwidth unless they are the Duggars, or engaged in file sharing etc (and there aren't that many legal Linux distro's to download). Per http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/usa the best per user data speed is 3.27mbps so my connection can comfortably support 25+ synchronous HD Netflix streams. WoW and other MMO style games consume even less bandwidth. The only way I could currently saturate my connection was by opening 20 simultaneous connections to NNTP and with those speeds you are downloading 1TB+ per day. Who even has the home storage available to utilize that @ $40/TB hard drive prices? These types of arguments over the need for 10gbps home connectivity is getting somewhat fultie.