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CIA on UFO Sightings: 'It Was Us'
mrflash818 sends word that the CIA has taken the blame for a majority of early UFO sightings. In a tweet, the agency said, "It was us," and linked to a document summarizing their use of U-2 spy planes from 1954-1974 (PDF).
"High-altitude testing of the U-2led to an unexpected side effect — a tremendous increase in reports of unidentified flying objects," the CIA wrote in the document, which it wrote in 1998. "In the mid-1950s, most commercial airliners flew at altitudes between 10,000 and 20,000 feet and [many] military aircraftoperated at altitudes below 40,000 feet. Consequently, once U-2s started flying at altitudes above 60,000 feet, air-traffic controllers began receiving increasing numbers of UFO reports." [T]he CIA cross-referenced UFO sightings to U-2 flight logs. "This enabled the investigators to eliminate the majority of the UFO reports," the CIA wrote, "although they could not reveal to the letter writers the true cause of the UFO sightings."
If I was a Sleestak alien overlord, that's exactly what I would say.
But it was aliens.
(BTW, what happened to the other half?
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
That makes sense. Doesn't explain the Men in Black.
It's best to get in front of these PR issues...
I'm skeptical about aliens in UFOs, but I'm also skeptical that U2 aircraft were responsible.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Whenever the CIA admits to something, I wonder, what's the bigger lie they're trying to cover up? Or, am I just being paranoid? Could somebody please send water to 37.2350 N, 115.8111 W, I'm really thirsty, thanks!
Look it, they want us to believe it was them. But the truth is aliens did come.
BUT the CIA was behind the Kennedy assassination with Marilyn Monroe's help.
Also, Marilyn was also the architect behind the fake Moon landing.
You all should know too, that Eric Snowden is actually working for the CIA - well, a splinter group. See, the NSA pissed off some bigshot at the CIA so the CIA had Snowden take them out - although the FBI is behind the CIA splinter group due to Obama being the anti-Christ.
It all makes perfect sense.
Now, with the U2 siightings. See, Bono caused it. I mean really, he is obviously an Alien. And what better cover than an obnoxious Irishmen - let alone a rock star.
Gotta get to Costco and get my aluminum foil to make new hats because Bono has been stealing all of my songs and passing them off as his - with some changes of course. "Pride, in the name of love" was originally, "Fuck, I stubbed my toe." -
I have always thought it was bunk until now.
This right here though is kind of hard to ignore, since we know the CIA has never told the truth to the American people about anything unless congress speciifcally drags it out of them or there is a leak....so....I think its safe to assume that none of these incidents were them, and in fact, they can't rule any out....and even the fact that they are commenting on this strongly implies a coverup.
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
Book summary from Amazon follows. U2 aircraft flying high in the sky doesn't debunk this book:
"Backed by documents newly declassified through the Freedom of Information Act, Colonel Philip J. Corso (Ret.), a member of President Eisenhower’s National Security Council and former head of the Foreign Technology Desk in the US Army, has come forward to reveal his personal stewardship of alien artifacts from the Roswell crash. He tells us how he spearheaded the Army’s reverse-engineering project that led to today’s integrated circuit chips, fiber optics, lasers, and super-tenacity fibers, and “seeded” the Roswell alien technology to giants of American industry. Laying bare the US government’s shocking role in the Roswell incident—what was found, the cover-up, and how they used alien artifacts to change the course of twentieth-century history—The Day After Roswell is an extraordinary memoir that not only forces us to reconsider the past, but also our role in the universe."
Oh yeah? Where is the thingy that that was supposed to replace the compact disc?
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Wait till they declassify the Elvis sighting reports... It was really President JFK, disguised by plastic surgery after he secretly resigned !
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What about the other 49%? Are they real aliens? Or just NSA? Or some other TLA?
you mean hd-dvd?
If so, it's pretty funny that the UFOs actually were based at Area 51 :)
What I'm not getting: OK, so there's a new kind of plane up there, flying especially high. Does it look that much more like a UFO than other planes? Up that high, isn't it just a speck? People are calling in to report, "Look, I saw a speck in the sky, it must be aliens"?
I am submitting a FOIA request to get that anal probe data.
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Take a moment to think. Where would you conduct test flights? Over foreign soil where you not only won't have the aid of the local authorities in your "there is nothing to see here" coverup when the crate croaks and goes down prematurely but won't even get your ass expensive toy back to find out just WHY it broke apart in mid air?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I guess this identification chart is now obsolete:
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When you're dead, you don't know you're dead. It only affects the people around you. Same thing when you're stupid.
That's not fair, ok? Taking away our toy after we spent so many years explaining how THEY keep us in the dark and how THEY cover up everything, then come out with a perfectly reasonable explanation. But it's all just a plot! Plans within plans within plans. They just SAY that it was their now-no-longer-secret planes to make us think that they did hide something, that they had some good reason for it and now we're supposed to believe them telling us the truth just because it is rationally sane and makes perfect sense? PAH! Since when did this have any room in conspiracy!
The truth is out there. Far, far out there. And I'm NOT paranoid! Because if you are, THEY will notice it!
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Great filter dogma aside, there very well could be advanced, universe-exploring civilizations that are mathematically unlikely to visit earth.
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No, most of the U2 and SR-71 flights took off from the US then flew to where they were doing reconnaissance, then flew back, so overflights of the US on the way to and from the targets was common. For the longest time the US government didn't trust other governments (excepts for the UK to some degree) so wouldn't base their most secret planes anywhere but at bases on US soil. The same also applied for these spy planes' follow-on.
It doesn't debunk this book either:
http://www.amazon.com/Bible-En...
My father worked on developing the first lasers during his masters degree. I don't think he got any alien-inspired tips.
Flying planes is not the same thing as performing a search on a US citizen. These were not drones looking in peoples windows. I suspect thier primary mission was looking for Russian planes in American airspace.
This is such horseshit. Regardless of what you think of UFOs, of the hundreds of thousands of UFO sightings, many reported by military people, law enforcement and people trained to observe aircraft, hardly any of them resembled anything like a U2 spyplane.
Last time I checked, a U2 spyplane was not really capable of hovering motionless and then accelerating to the horizon in a moment. Nor were they gigantic triangular craft.
I don't think for a second that there are aliens from Ork involved with the UFO sightings that have been common for the last five millennia, but I doubt more than a handful were people who were seeing U2 spyplanes. Who knows fuck-all about what those UFOs really were or whether they were inside or outside the observers heads? But at the moment, I'm not prepared to believe a goddamn thing the CIA says about anything. In my opinion, they're a bigger threat to people's safety and sanity than practically any outside threat, including North Korea, Iran, Russia or Israel (who are all plenty bad),
Now, if you want to tell me that the abductions people have been reporting for the past 40 years are the CIA, I may buy that, because they are some sadistic motherfuckers who love putting things up peoples' asses, as we have learned from recent government leaks. Yeah, anal probes, mutilations, etc, that sounds just like the CIA's speed.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Pay no attention to the torture, er I mean Enhance Interrogation Technique, er I mean EITs, yeah EIT's sounds better. Look UFO's!
Never mind that we cruelly froze an innocent guy to death, UFO's!!!
Once the CIA has everyone believing the UFO sightings were actually spy planes, they'll be ready to blame all the upcoming CIA drone sightings on extra-terrestrial vehicles.
Do you realize that 200 years ago was still 10 years after the first railway journey, 21 years after the first untethered flight of a hot air balloon, that weaponized rockets were in common use by British armed forces and others (later inspiring Jules Verne to write science fiction about going to the moon), and that early versions of electrical telegraphs were in testing?
Well.. Ummm... So the CIA is taking credit for a flying device which moves at MACH speeds and changes directions on a dime? Seriously?
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If you really want to blow someone's mind, point out that fax machines existed in the 1800s.
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My most likely alien scenario is that part of natural evolution is that organic sentients, like humans, evolve technical civilizations that eventually create mechanical sentients. The mechanicals don't require air, water, etc to survive, and may well prefer "living" off-planet. They'd also have a much longer life-span, so to speak, and receive all the energy they require from the light-energy - photo-voltaics or such. Given this, there could well be whole mechanical civilizations existing between the stars or wherever. The Universe is a Big Place. The interests of organics like us would be of no interest to them. And of course mechanicals would rapidly evolve to become an intelligence we couldn't begin to fathom.
We haven't seen aliens because we're just the ants on this one little world.
My kind of UFO
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To add to that, physics has been telling us about the speed of light limit for over 150 years now. Maxwell's equations (published in 1861), contained them implicitly, and for a few years nobody really noticed (or tried to offer alternative explanations like the aether). In 1905 (110 years ago), Einstein finally formalized the concept. In those 150 years no experiment or even speculative theory has hinted to us that FTL is even remotely possible. Everything tells us its flat-out impossible. Stuff like wormholes _may_ be possible but they introduce a whole bunch of new unsolved problems. And none of the proposed ideas like wormholes or warp drives are based on any kind of experiment; they are just based on extrapolating theories beyond their domain of applicability. They probably represent our ignorance more than anything.
But try convincing the 'believers' that aliens don't have FTL.
A fool and his hard drive are soon parted.
Have gnu, will travel.
Yes military aircraft probably accounts for the majority of sightings, but not the ones that zip around faster than anything we have even today, stop on a dime and go another direction just as fast..
I've seen objects like this, multiple times, but I've always been able to explain in mundane terms after watching closely -- I'm the kind of guy who keeps binoculars in the car just in case the night skies are clear. I'd *love* to see an alien spaceship, but being a habitual sky watcher things that occasional sky watcher might take as a spacecraft look like ordinary phenomena to me.
And it's not because I only see what I'm told could be real. Decades ago I experienced something which science said was impossible: meteors shooting overhead with a rocket-like sound. The reason this is impossible is that meteors are fifty or a hundred miles up -- sound could not travel fast enough through the atmosphere. But I knew what I saw and heard, and in 2001 scientists actually observed this phenomenon, electrophonic meteors.
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Sure, it flies high, but according to Wikipedia top speed is about 500 mph, and it's very unstable, it would definitely not be doing any fancy twists and turns. So you're talking about a tiny object flying fairly slow and straight at 70,000 feet. I don't see it attracting a lot of attention. The whole point of the plane was that the Soviets couldn't detect it(didn't work out so well, but most civilians aren't walking around with high-powered radar arrays)
Never let a lack of data get in the way of a good rant.
If you look at one of those Internet compilations of Photos you really need to look at to understand, it is very impressive just how confused you can be by chance juxtapositions of visual elements.
#18 is particularly interesting. It's not a precise juxtaposition. The shadow looks like the shadow of a flag; it's not shaped like the rug. You can understand intellectually what's happening in about five seconds. And yet it takes a real effort of will to perceive the rug is lying on the sand. Relax for an instant and it once again looks as if it is levitating.
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convinced Canada's former Minister of National Defense (Paul Hellyer) to go public about American involvement with alien technology and beings.
Paul Hellyer also believes that we could end our reliance on fossil fuels by harnessing the power cosmic, if only it weren't for those pesky bankers!
The world could end its dependence on fossil fuels by harnessing "the energy that exists in everything within the cosmos."
People could replace their car engines and furnaces with a little box that harnesses the "exotic energy" of the universe except the world's banking "cabal" prevents people from accessing the technology, Hellyer says. - http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/...
This was made public a number of years ago.
A Shadeless room is a brighter room.
People who don't want to look, won't see.
There are dozens of arguments which detail how people are poor observers, easily tricked, etc. -And this is true. But like neurons firing, when you get enough activity, a signal emerges and things tip.
I can be fooled dozens of ways into thinking that there are dogs in the park. I can be accused of all sorts of bias problems, etc. But the frailty of human perceptive abilities doesn't mean that there are actually no dogs in the park.
"Yes, but there is not enough evidence for the Spooky Shit."
Except there is.
Those who argue against the Spooky Shit out there existing have simply not bothered to read the reports or the history. There's more than enough signal to at least give pause to the truly open-minded skeptic.
Read Richard Dolan's first book, "UFOs and the National Security State" -He sifted through thousands of incidents from the 1940's to the 1970's, selecting only those which involved multiple witnesses who were also aviation, military or police professionals required to document things in the course of their jobs. Even with those filters in place, he offers a couple hundred astonishing reports. -Along with admissions from senior Air Force staffers who tell us point blank that they were charged with lying to the public in order to quell concerns.
The argument about cell phone camera proliferation proving a negative is lazy and ill-informed because, A) There are in fact hundreds of captures available for your viewing pleasure on YouTube, and B) most of those suck because photographing dots in the sky is hard and not worth much, and C) the really close encounters tend to mess with electronics, perceptions and time. If you can't keep your brain's bio-electrics running correctly, what chance does your smart phone have? -Let alone your car engine.
Also worth reading is pretty much anything by John Keel. -Old school journalism at its finest. I especially found his collection of newspaper clippings from the 1800's fascinating. This shit has been going on forever. (And for the record, he doesn't think it's about space aliens. He thinks it's something which is native to Earth, and which has the characteristics of a malevolent trickster of sorts.)
Crop circles, (though the genuine ones appear to have stopped now for a number of reasons), are also quite revealing. Check out the film, "Crop Circles; Quest for Truth" -It addresses all the usual skeptical brush-offs without particularly intending to. Magnetic seeds? Shit, dude! There are a variety of details which simply don't hold with assholes with ropes and planks. Not to mention the black helicopters and military clamp downs reported by witnesses.
Cattle Mutilation is another fascinating subject which has only been 'debunked' in the most wishful sense. The arguments against it, even from the premier skeptical websites, are astonishingly infantile and easily disproved with the most cursory research and basic logic.
So this is not a case of there not being ample proof; those who argue against are simply very ignorant or very willful in their denial. -And please note that when I say "Ignorant" I do not mean it as an insult. Ignorance is just a state of mind where the information has not yet been accessed. It's the *reason* for the ignorance which can sometimes be damning.
Personally, I don't understand why people wouldn't explore this material thoroughly. I mean, we're talking about the possibility of some truly amazing shit happening on our planet, right here and now. -It's safe to say that everybody on Slashdot is a sci-fi fan, so why wouldn't the possibility of the real thing be considered at least somewhat interesting and worthy of more attention than a half-baked brush-off?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... Pretty much sums up all the bullshit you hear about aliens in UFOs
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There's an easy answer to that book: the author was an alien and sent here just to gin up that sort of misinformation. Let's hear what that expert of all things alien has to say about it:
Interviewer: So, Giorgio, what do you have to say about these stories that the aliens landed in N. Mexico at Roswell?
Giorgio A. Tsoukalos: Well, the aliens are known sneaks and liars, I wouldn't put it past them to plant these stories and then claim the aliens did it.
Interviewer: But....but if the aliens planted the stories, then the aliens are here among us, yes?
Giorgio: Don't be so sure, they could be only acting like they are here among us to fool us into accepting their kind.
Interviewer: Ummm....you mean cats are involved?
Giorgio: You didn't hear this from me, but have you ever met a cat who wasn't from an alien world? The feigned inability to open food cans so we'll do it for them, the total disregard for clear directions we give them, letting mice loose in the house so we'll think cats are worthwhile for us to provide a warm house and sanitary needs? C'mon, we're enslaved and they didn't have to fire a shot.
Interviewer: I can SEE the Light!!!
Giorgio: Thank you, thank you, my hair glows in the dark.
WTF does the aircraft flight ceiling have to do with anything? 20,000, 40,000, or 60,0000... The article seems to indicate that the rise in UFO's was due to spyplanes that flew at 60,000 feet. Sorry, if a spy plane is flying at 60,000 feet you won't even see it, that is kind of the point (and the fact that they are harder to detect and intercept). The only time UFO sightings would even be possible, would be when they come in to land or take off. Which would make sense if the sighting were situated around a military base with an airfield.
Besides if Aliens can figure out how to magically travel between the stars, I am pretty sure they can figure out a way not to be seen if they do not want to be.
There probably are. Unfortunately, in many cases there is no available information to make an informed decision (which, by the way, means saying it was aliens is unfounded).
The CIA is lying, that is their job. 8-)