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Private Russian Company Proposes Lunar Base
MarkWhittington writes According to an article in Sputnik, a private Russian company called Lin Industrial has announced that it is capable of building a lunar base. However, according to information contained to a recent post in Parabolic Arc, this announcement may be more the result of idle boasting than an objective assessment of actual ability. Nevertheless, Lin seems to be one of the few entrepreneurial startups in Russia in the style of much more robust enterprises in the West such as SpaceX and Blue Origin.
Random boasting from people unable to carry them out... Well, they better not build it where all those time-share lots have been sold...
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I propose a private base on Venus!
Look how easy that was!?
Ridiculous.
Ezekiel 23:20
Call us back when you've at least orbited a space station or two...
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I, too, am capable of building a lunar base.
I just need some funding. And a rocket. And a team of trained engineers/astronauts (both, not either or).
Rocket fuel, I guess. And plans. Plans would be good.
But I am totally capable.
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In the polar regions? Probably to look for water. Eventual exploitation might need some local repairmen to keep it running. But yeah, the initial exploration doesn't sound like people stuff.
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then they are capable of bankruptcy and the modern gulag. Russian business is ebb and flow like that.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
Whoever sets up the lunar base, do you mind also putting a Pirate Bay server up there, too? I never finished downloading the second season of Hannibal.
You are welcome on my lawn.
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Launched two times, booster performed flawlessly each time (payload failed on first launch).
Lunar Base is, too.
Yes I do. I also realize those engines can't get humans to the moon, let alone an entire manned base.
Still smaller than Saturn-V, with less payload capacity to both LEO and the Moon. Never flown with human payload. Never flown beyond LEO. Better luck next time.
In the style of SpaceX? So I suppose they're undercutting other traditional space launch companies and are on track to developing a a heavy lifter and other technologies they hope could get them to Mars?
Wait, you're telling me they don't even have one rocket yet, never mind having actually achieved orbit, any sort of revenue, or even the beginnings of the capability of building, launching, landing, and assembling a moon base? Slashdot, why?
now, with thieves and crooks running the country.
Wow, what a remarkably naive thing to think. Pray tell, when was Ru^H^Hany country not run by "thieves and crooks?"
Go look in your own backyard, before trying to shit in someone else's, punk.
There are two kinds of people who announce they can do something like that - the ones who don't have a clue how hard it is, and the ones who don't care because their objective is to scam investors. (Seasteading's a lot easier, but most of the proposals I've seen for that have been the scammer types.)
Yes, getting enough equipment up to the moon to build a moon base is something you can do if you've got enough cash. Doing it as a private industry (rather than a government doing it) means you also need a revenue model once you've built it, and if you've done due diligence you won't find much revenue up there, even if you manage to get rid of inconvenient UN treaties that ban owning the moon.
But building an ecosystem that can sustain your moon colony is really hard; we don't know how to keep small pilot projects like Biosphere II running for very long without cheating and restocking the atmosphere, or how to build dirt without a ready supply of nitrogen and phosphate to grow plants with. It's a lot easier to deal with that on a moon base than on Mars, because you can send an occasional care package, but it's not like the convenience of restocking the International Space Station (which doesn't recycle most of its resources either.)
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What are they going to pay for it with?
Maybe they can fuel it with vodka, the price of which has dropped significan;y in Russia: http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/3...
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I think you are forgetting the impact of communications latency.
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At the same token, in Russia, significant part of population still uses outhouses, average life expectancy of males is 50 years
Do I smell a troill? It's currently 65 years and the lowest it's been since 1950 is 58 years.
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I'm not sure it would be that big a deal. Figure it's, what, about 2 or 3 seconds? Yeah, I don't think you'll be ducking and weaving things that are coming at you. But a humanoid robot could probably walk around (slowly) and pick up stuff.
Heck, the old Soviet lunokhod rovers were remote controlled.
I'll bet there a bunch of companies capable of building a lunar base [as in, a facility capable of supporting life for a non-trivial amount of time on the surface of the moon]. Of course, none of them have any chance of actually getting the base to the moon.
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There's been a variety of related and rigorous work - but unlike Biosphere II, they haven't been large and gaudy and thus haven't captured the media and the public's attention. That the more rigorous research has only lead to the conclusion that we don't currently actually know all that much rather than making sexy headlines hasn't helped much.
Robert Heinlein provided much of the philosophical legwork for how to make it work: Don't worry about building large reinforced airtight structures above ground, but instead bore into the ground and/or use caves that can be sealed up and fortified.
i.e., live IN the moon not ON the moon
So first you send up rockets with tunnel-boring moon machines, then you build hatches over the holes, then you seal up the leaks in the tunnels, then you build whatever you want inside there, with a pressurized atmosphere.