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Anonymous Asks Activists To Fight Pedophiles In 'Operation Deatheaters'
HughPickens.com writes The Independent reports that hacktivist group Anonymous, in a project named Operation DeathEaters, is calling for help in its fight against international pedophile networks, or what it calls the "paedosadist industry" and has issued a video instructing activists on how they can aid in the operation. The Anonymous project is intended to break what it says is a conspiracy of silence among sympathetic politicians, police and mainstream media to downplay the full extent of the online child sex industry. "The premise behind OpDeathEaters is to expose high level complicity, obstruction of justice and cover-up in the paedo-sadist industry in order to show the need for independent inquiries," says Heather Marsh, an online activist who is helping to co-ordinate the operation and describes herself as an "old friend" of Anonymous. The Anonymous database, which will be hosted on the GitHub online repository, promises to collate cases from all around the world, cross-referencing connections within sub-groups including the police, armed forces, schoolteachers, politicians, media, academics and religious organisations. The database's ultimate purpose has yet to be fully determined, but in the first instance the group says it wants to shut down the child-sex industry by "dismantling the power structure which held it there" and by "educating to create a cultural change".
The group is calling on volunteers to help with the ongoing work, which has been divided into three steps. The first is about collecting "all the factual information," second is to "share that information as widely as possible," and the third step is "to set up an independent, internationally linked, inquiry into all the areas which do not appear to have been investigated properly." Activists point to the muted media coverage given to a recent case in Washington DC in which Michael Centanni, a senior Republican fundraiser, was charged with child sex offences after investigators traced transmissions of child pornography to his computers in his basement. The case was not covered by The Washington Post or the New York Times, and was only picked up by a local NBC affiliate state and The Washington Examiner, a small conservative paper in the city. According to the court filings, Centanni was found in possession of 3,000 images, many apparently filmed in his own bedroom, including one showing a man raping a five-year-old girl who cries "no" and "mommy" while the man says "good baby" and "stop crying," according to one filing.
The group is calling on volunteers to help with the ongoing work, which has been divided into three steps. The first is about collecting "all the factual information," second is to "share that information as widely as possible," and the third step is "to set up an independent, internationally linked, inquiry into all the areas which do not appear to have been investigated properly." Activists point to the muted media coverage given to a recent case in Washington DC in which Michael Centanni, a senior Republican fundraiser, was charged with child sex offences after investigators traced transmissions of child pornography to his computers in his basement. The case was not covered by The Washington Post or the New York Times, and was only picked up by a local NBC affiliate state and The Washington Examiner, a small conservative paper in the city. According to the court filings, Centanni was found in possession of 3,000 images, many apparently filmed in his own bedroom, including one showing a man raping a five-year-old girl who cries "no" and "mommy" while the man says "good baby" and "stop crying," according to one filing.
What is the purpose of the Anonymous?
To catch the pedophiles?
That's the job for the cops
If the cops can't do the job, what makes you think those nerds who call themselves "Anonymous" can do anything different?
I know nothing about the particular case that they are referring to. But the fact that it wasn't widely reported is actually a good thing. Being charged is not the same as being convicted. There are too many cases of people being tried in the media and having their lives destroyed when they actually haven't done anything wrong.
Given people are so fucking stupid they will attack paediatricians thinking they are paedophiles just sums up the wider mobs inability to effectively deal with the information.
Like everyone I think fighting pedopornograhy is a good thing, but what will happen if Anonymous post something wrong about someone?
Except their plan is basically grab everyones private information and make it public and hope that they only find the pedos.
I'm sure that they have the best of intentions. The problem is with the underlying assumption that there is some kind of conspiracy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wenatchee_child_abuse_prosecutions
Once you accept that there is a conspiracy, there is no end to it.
If they were just interested in cataloguing the various cases then that could be done by scripts and Google news. If something is not getting media exposure then it is more likely to be because of lazy "journalists" than because someone is trying to bury the story.
You're exactly why this is a bad idea. You're so blinded by your hatred, you're a useful idiot for anyone who wants someone eliminated based on shakey planted evidence.
Given that its most likely that "Anonymous" at this point is mostly government agents now, its going to be real intresting to see who they finger as pedophiles, and if any of these people are actually guilty.
Not all pedophiles act on their urges. The ones that realize their urges cannot be acted upon and thus live their lives suffering with such an affliction should be commended, not referred to as "scum" just because of an attraction they probably wish they didn't have.
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What?
This also looks a lot like a slightly unpopular kid going and beating up the most unpopular kid to make everyone else like them more.
Pedophiles are like Nazis: They are widely assumed to be completely and thoroughly evil and thus worthless human beings. If you are going to pick a group to engage in vigilante activity against this is just about the perfect one, because who is going to going to stand up and say 'that's not right'. Unlike other extremely unpopular groups like Human traffickers or actual no-Nazis, pedophiles are not generally gun toting violent lunatics, so the risk of being murdered in retaliation is pretty low.
If you want to break the law to try to uphold the law, this is a logical choice, I guess.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
So there's a conspiracy of high ranking officials worldwide who all are in the same child abuse ring? I wonder if they've been presented with the counter-evidence of ummmmmmmm no there's not. They're going after something that doesn't exist. Yeah, I'm sure NBC didn't cover a story well enough because there's a giant pro-child abuse lobby working for them. Are they even serious? No wonder these people don't have full time IT jobs to occupy their times.
Going to cause a lot of collateral damage to start doxxing people who may or may not be pedobears. It may also be used for vindictive purposes.
No one is sympathetic to pedophiles.
I guess that depends on what you mean by sympathetic and what you mean by pedophile.
I assume you meant "child molester" not pedophile. Someone else has in another sub-thread already said that pedophiles who control their urges should be commended not called scum.
As for child molesters:
Anyone who due to biology or upbringing (e.g. being brainwashed to enjoy sex while a child themselves) that lets them enjoy having sex with kids or young teens and who due to biology or upbringing lacks the self control to keep away from the insides of kids' pants deserves prison (or a psych lockup if legally insane), in- and (if not a life sentence) post-prison mental-health care, and, yes, sympathy.
Why sympathy? You can't help your biology. You can't help your up-bringing. You CAN and MUST make your own choices as an adult, but if you are facing life with "two strikes against you," you do deserve and have my sympathy. But if I'm your juror that sympathy won't reduce your punishment.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
There probably is.
The real conspiracy, if one exists at all, is when freedom-hating scumbags conspire together to rile up with public with claims that we need to stop the pedophiles ("child molester" is a better term) and get rid of all child porn, just so they can push through laws which violate our constitution, our freedoms, and our privacy.
I am swayed.
I'm not. I grow tired of people treating adults as if their lives are worth less than the lives of children, and I will not sacrifice our fundamental liberties in exchange for 'safety' from bogeymen, even if that safety is real. Freedom is what's important.
As the facts come forth we will know more. If the accusations are true then let the offenders be castrated and tortured to death. I will volunteer to do it with a rusty blade.
There's absolutely no accountability or standards of evidence. Even if they are true, though, by revealing that you support the death penalty (and torture), you've revealed yourself to be a mere barbarian ruled by their emotions and desires for vengeance.
How do you know their "evidence" isn't fabricated?
How do you know you aren't the target when your wife wants to divorce you, get all your stuff, and take revenge on you?
But it's not Innocent until Proven Guilty anymore. It's not even Guilty until Proven Innocent.
Current climate is: Guilty until we can no longer libel you as guilty, but 'it probably could have happened anyway'. Just check out the turn-around the media and people did after that fraternity thing.
Most so-called "child porn" doesn't involve infants, it involves sexually mature persons who happen to be under some arbitrary, country-dependent age limit, and for a straight male to be attracted to a young female who has just reached sexual maturity is a strong biological drive. Our legislation on child protection and child porn has little to do with biology, statistics, or reason, it has to do with fear mongering and hysteria over a horrible but rare crime.
Now, as someone who has always been attracted to older guys, I really don't care about any of this (well, when I was 14, it would have been nice if the age of consent had been a little lower, but that was long ago). But I find these misrepresentations and this fear mongering offensive because irrational fear among parents ends up causing an erosion of our privacy and civil liberties, and it diverts resources from far more important issues.
Actually, you can't blame this one on the NSA. Their mission is to observe and alert. In the case of the Boston Marathon Bomber, the Russian FSB (the follow on for the KGB) told the US authorities that these brothers were Islamic terrorists. And the FBI did nothing about it.
Who's in charge of the FBI? Oh, Eric Holder. Well, that figures.
What's on second.
Ida know . . . third base.
This call for vigilantism looks seriously dubious to me . . .
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
Given that its most likely that "Anonymous" at this point is mostly government agents now, its going to be real intresting to see who they finger as pedophiles, and if any of these people are actually guilty.
Yup. This sounds more like a government operation.
Except their plan is basically grab everyones private information and make it public and hope that they only find the pedos.
No, their plan is grab everyone's private information and make it public and accuse people they don't like (political reasons, whatever the case may be) of being pedophiles.
Just an excuse for identity theft and robbery, nothing more. The usual "cracker" ethics -- two wrongs make a right.
This sounds more and more like a government agency. Their tactics "think of the children" stopped working, so now they
have to take it underground and con a gullible public into thinking this is "grass roots."
Anyone else find it strange that "light is the best disinfectant" and yet..."anonymous" will not reveal themselves?
Giant double standard...it sounds more like a government going on a witch hunt than anything else.
Disclaimer: I have been abused, but have not and will not abuse others. I have read this is a common thing for abusers to be victims themselves, but how could you put someone through it after it has happened to you?
Also, probably 9/10 of adults I know were molested (by a family member or close friend, is most common), molested someone else, or have similar stories.
I don't see how this will change much. These go unreported. The common theme is "get over it" and there are statutes of limitations.
For myself...what does it matter if I tracked down my abusers? I have moved on. Sure, they might go after someone else.
It is not worth my time and money and energy to track them down. There is no reason to "cover up" anything, but "God"
is unlikely to care now anymore than when I was a kid. It won't change anything to execute the person responsible.
They'd be better off convincing people "just because he/she is 16/14/etc. and you get them drunk, does not make it ok"
It really is a cultural thing, goes far beyond sexual abuse...large groups of people always have and always will do stupid
things because they can.
This will change nothing. If you want to convince people that individual lives matter...collectivism is not the way to go about it.
You embrace godless communism nearly the entire world over (economy & education)...what did you expect would happen?
This is just another symptom of the disease. To governments the world over, individual lives mean NOTHING. They sure as #$#@$ don't care you were abused.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/...
Self-styled vigilantes attacked the home of a hospital paediatrician after apparently confusing her professional title with the word "paedophile", it emerged yesterday.
Dr Yvette Cloete, a specialist registrar in paediatric medicine at the Royal Gwent hospital in Newport, was forced to flee her house after vandals daubed it with graffiti in the middle of the night.
The word "paedo" was written across the front porch and door of the house she shared with her brother in the village of St Brides, south Wales.
Gwent police confirmed that the attack last Friday night was prompted by a confusion over the words "paedophile" and "paediatrician".
Here's the problem though. While pedo's make for an abhorrent target, and due process just seems 'too good for them' -- where does the mob mentality end? We have a criminal justice system in civilized societies for a reason (inb4 anti-american snark).
If the angry mob decided tomorrow that some belief or group membership was wrong, should they be allowed to take matters into their own hands? Pretend for a moment that these were jaywalkers or people with overdue library books.
Lady Justice is not Heimdall or Janus, for a very good reason.
Is there any evidence for that? No. Is there any evidence that enforcement against viewers is effective? No.
Yes, indeed we are. You fabricate "facts" to support an encroachment of a surveillance state and totalitarian government. Typical for you.
RTFA, they are collecting official case information, not internet rumors. Don't worry about your nonexistent wife or girlfriend.
Oh, that's reassuring. They're collecting official unverified accusations, from reliable sources like anonymous reporting lines.
Lets face it; Anonymous is composed of a few capable, possibly even moral, individuals and lots of wannabees who just want to hurt people because it's fun to feel powerful. This is going to end badly.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/...
Self-styled vigilantes attacked the home of a hospital paediatrician after apparently confusing her professional title with the word "paedophile", it emerged yesterday.
Dr Yvette Cloete, a specialist registrar in paediatric medicine at the Royal Gwent hospital in Newport, was forced to flee her house after vandals daubed it with graffiti in the middle of the night.
The word "paedo" was written across the front porch and door of the house she shared with her brother in the village of St Brides, south Wales.
Gwent police confirmed that the attack last Friday night was prompted by a confusion over the words "paedophile" and "paediatrician".
Most people that participate in stuff like this vandalism are usually "many bricks shy of a full load"; they are "dim-witted followers".
when justice systematically fails to protect the weak
Does it, though?
Or do people just want to think it does so they can satisfy their innate bloodlust and apply some good old medieval uncivilized mob justice?
It happened once. 15 years ago. Stop recycling it.
True. But if you read the link, it also happened during public hysteria worked up over a campaign to "name and shame" sex offenders in the past. TFA here is proposing to do this on a much grander scale. Therefore it's a pretty relevant example of the kinds of things that public hysteria over this issue can do if it's not handled well.
You only have to look at GamerGate to see the standard of proof required by anonymous. This will very quickly descend into doxxing, threats and blog posts presented as "evidence" of crimes against children, punishable by mob justice. Anyone who opposes it will be labelled and SJW. A false narrative will be constructed around anyone they decide to target, and their lives will be ruined.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
"but many abusers are too far wacked out on drugs"
This idea that sexual abusers are whacked out drug-heads in dirty clothes, lurking around playgrounds or school yards and living in some squalid apartment collecting all manner of degrading pornography is absolute horseshit! There's a fair chance you have stood next a sexual abuser on the train or bus, you wouldn't know it. They are just like everyone else, they have good jobs, cars and often have loving families who they wouldn't hurt or abuse but they have no issue with watching someone else abuse minors because something in their own childhood introduced the a maladjusted idea of what is the acceptable norm for sexual behaviour. It's a psychological problem that requires proper professional psychological treatment, not the local nutjob beating them with a two-by-four after they found some information on the internet!
But they are.
No, they aren't. There is no objective value to someone's life. A child's life is no more important than my own.
while children are potentially part of the solution
Everyone is potentially part of the solution. You may say that the chances that an adult could change their views are slim, but I'd say the chances that a child could be part of the solution when they grow up is just about as slim.
Going to cause a lot of collateral damage to start doxxing people who may or may not be pedobears
Call me when anonymous starts busting down doors without warning at 3 AM and kills occupants. Call me when they snag people rolling through town who just took out cash to buy a car, and confiscate the money. Call me when they drag people through the court for years, ruining their good name with no real conviction. Call me when they just shoot you on the street even though you're un-armed.
Those are all things the "real cops" have been doing. When the authorities aren't doing their job, alternatives start to look better.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?