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Google, Amazon, Microsoft Reportedly Paid AdBlock Plus To Unblock

RoccamOccam writes with the following news from The Register: Internet giants Google, Amazon, Microsoft and Taboola have reportedly paid AdBlock Plus to allow their ads to pass through its filter software. The confidential deals were confirmed by the Financial Times, the paper reported today [Paywalled]. From the Register's article: Eyeo GmbH, the German startup behind Adblock Plus, said it did not wish to comment. So far more than 300 million users have downloaded its software, it said. The add-on is free to download, with Eyeo generating revenue through its "whitelisting" programme. Companies can request their ads to be unblocked as long as they comply with AdBlock's "acceptable ads" policy. Large companies pay a fee for the service.

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  1. Adblock Edge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    'nough said.

    1. Re:Adblock Edge by TuringTest · · Score: 4, Informative

      ÂBlock (read as "micro-block") has smaller memory footprint than AdBlock (and therefore Adblock Edge), and can use the same major privacy lists (EasyList, EasyPrivacy, Peter Lowe's Ad Server).

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    2. Re:Adblock Edge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      uBlock

      Nice and lightweight.

  2. Company does exactly what it says it does... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Companies can request their ads to be unblocked as long as they comply with AdBlock's "acceptable ads" policy. Large companies pay a fee for the service."

    How is this news? Seriously, how?

    1. Re:Company does exactly what it says it does... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because most people just click ok on anything they see without reading anything. Ditto with this clickbait news.

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    2. Re:Company does exactly what it says it does... by the_other_chewey · · Score: 5, Informative

      In the past the end user can still opt to not see any ads, even if they comply with the "acceptable ads" policy. This would be news if they are making a change so that the end user is forced to see a given ad that the advertiser pays extra for, regardless of their extension settings.

      They are not.

    3. Re:Company does exactly what it says it does... by blackraven14250 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's extraordinarily well known that they accept unobtrusive ads - go to their web page, and it's literally bullet point #2 under their heading, sandwiched between "Blocks banners, pop-ups and video ads - even on Facebook and YouTube" and "It's free", with a link to a page describing *why* they do it and instructions on how to turn it off if you so choose. Many of the people who use Adblock Plus, myself included, use it specifically to block intrusive or broken ads, rather than all ads. As an example, on Twitch, there's ads that play in certain spots of the stream determined by the streamer - that could be fine, except for the fact that Twitch ads are broken. They don't adhere to volume settings, and frequently crash the player - a giant pain when you just happen to have a stream on while doing something else, especially since they always run a "preroll" ad when you load or reload a stream, which itself can crash the player. That's outright unacceptable. Google ads, OTOH, are about as unobtrusive as they get, and don't outright break the sites they're on, so I don't have a problem with that.

    4. Re:Company does exactly what it says it does... by flappinbooger · · Score: 4, Informative

      So... this isn't news?

      I can click a 'switch' and turn off 'acceptable ads' and it's been that way for a long time now.

      So maybe it IS news because I didn't know/realize/take the time to think about the fact that they make money off this.

      Good for them. They deserve to eat too. Adblock Plus is reliable and makes the internet tolerable and safer. Letting through some 'GRAS' ads for cash is fine with me. As long as there is a switch where I can turn them off too...

      (Generally Regarded as Safe)

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  3. Things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Some people get AdBlock to avoid intrusive adverts. I don't see this being a problem for them.

    However some, such as myself, use AdBlock as part of an anti-tracking solution. This concerns me more.

    1. Re:Things by Crashmarik · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That said I understand why companies resent having to pay someone to allow them to make money by verifying their ads are 'acceptable'.

      Their users resent them allowing third party Flash/Javascript adds that are frequently attack vectors.

    2. Re:Things by Grishnakh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That said I understand why companies resent having to pay someone to allow them to make money by verifying their ads are 'acceptable'.

      Tough shit: if those companies hadn't tried to ruin the internet in years past with popups, popunders, flashing banner ads, and all kinds of other obscenity, users would never have bothered resorting to adblockers.

  4. Opt-out by pr0nbot · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd assume (without further info) that this is about the "allow some non-intrusive advertising" checkbox you get in the filter options. It's on by default, but when you install adblock (as I did a few days ago) it one of the things you go through when the configuration dialog pops up.

    It links to: https://adblockplus.org/en/acc...

    It's not perfect in that it's on by default, but it's easy enough to disable. Perhaps they could improve it by tying this checkbox to your "do not track" preference?

  5. Bound to happen by Andrio · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everyone running ad blocking software is not sustainable, since ads pay for a lot of stuff. People also don't want to have to directly pay for things (plus, could you imagine if every website was paywalled?)

    Seems to me that the best solution is to just run unintrusive ads. People don't really mind ads all that much, they just hate it when they're noisy (literally and metaphorically) and get in the way

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    1. Re:Bound to happen by Bigbutt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sorry, as long as ad companies occasionally accept ads by malware companies, I'll keep running ad blocking software.

      [John]

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    2. Re:Bound to happen by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not particularly interested in the 'sustainability' of the Internet. Google and a couple of other companies that have more money than the Catholic Church can worry about that. I'm interested in my privacy and peace of mind.

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    3. Re:Bound to happen by pjt33 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      could you imagine if every website was paywalled?

      No, I can't imagine that. In particular, I can't imagine paywalling my own site (or putting ads on it). I remember the days before advertising was big on the web, when content was provided by universities and hobbyists. Comparing the web now with the web then, I suspect that the death of online advertising would harm clickbait sites more than ones with valuable content.

    4. Re:Bound to happen by WCMI92 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm not particularly interested in the 'sustainability' of the Internet. Google and a couple of other companies that have more money than the Catholic Church can worry about that. I'm interested in my privacy and peace of mind.

      I am not going to cry if the commercial ventures on the Internet die. IMHO, the Internet was better back in 1994-5 anyway when it largely was NOT commercial!

      Back in those days when you clicked on the DOWNLOAD button, (gasp) a file downloaded! Not prompt you through 6 more screens and clicks. Articles rendered as a single page instead of "click whoring" you through a dozen pages.

      If those lowbrow tactics quit yielding money they will stop.

      And sites like Amazon which I go to when I WANT to buy something will always be there.

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  6. I don't mind some ads... by MitchellThompson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Its the ones that cover the whole screen, have someone who talks over the speakers, or force me to find a tiny hide button that I want blocked. So far, i have not found that Google, Microsoft, or Amazon do this. (SO FAR.....) Also, i run a site that uses Google Doubleclick for Publishing that houses some ads as part of the site's content. They are not obtrusive and you would mistake it for the site's content. Adblock will block them though, even though they are just in-house ads for my own content on the same site.

  7. Some alternatives... by snkhere · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Basic blocking: https://github.com/gorhill/uBl...
    More extensive blocking: https://github.com/gorhill/uMa...

    Extensions are available for Chrome/Chromium. It seems Firefox is (getting) supported as well.

  8. Adblock has never failed me. by Zeio · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've been using it for years - from very early states - and I know within seconds if adblock is not installed on chrome, firefox and opera and android via adaway.

    If adblock leaks an ad, we get the ad and block it manually, and also there are lists that are not directly under adblock plus , adblock chrome's control. The lists are pulled from and maintained separately than the blockers so Im not sure how this can go on for very long. It would be glaringly obvious over time if ads get through and the lists will be updated.

    If any one of the adblockers "betrays" the community with exceptions in the code, we have plenty of places to defect to.

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    1. Re:Adblock has never failed me. by meta-monkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I installed ABP and Ghostery on my grandfather's browser and left the little ghostery notification up so every time he browsed a site he'd see all the trackers. He was stunned. You go to cnn.com and there are 16 trackers. I hid the notification window later because it's annoying, but if you're not aware of this stuff, it's rather eye-opening. Browsing without a half-dozen blocking add-ons is like walking through the mall naked.

      I run:

      Adblock Plus
      Ghostery
      NoScript
      BetterPrivacy (deletes Flash 'Locally Shared Objects,' which are Flash cookies a regular cookie-blocker/deleter won't notice)
      Certificate Patrol
      HTTPS-Everywhere
      Flashblock
      Smart Referer

      And my default search engine is Startpage.

      Any other recommendations you've got, IT Pro?

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  9. Re:No facebook? by pmontra · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm also a Firefox user, with AdBlock. I disabled the acceptable ads checkbox so I don't see any ad (I would have noticed). If AdBlock makes any money out of the ads companies, good for them. If they force acceptable ads to everybody, I'll move to something else. uBlock seems to be as good. There will always be something to block all ads. At worst the hosts file.

  10. Switch to uBlock, it's better by Petronius · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Faster, better, hackable and free. https://github.com/gorhill/uBl...

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  11. Don't use an Adblocker that accepts bribes by WCMI92 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I use Adblock Edge. Used to use Adblock Plus before they started accepting bribes to cripple their own filters.

    I use ad blockers because I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ADS. Period. I hate ads. To me there is NO SUCH THING as an acceptable ad.

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  12. Re:Extortion by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hey, these companies put their stuff up freely available on the internet, and make no attempt to block us.

    If they think that magically confers some obligation on us to look at every damned ad their website serves, they're full of crap. How many times to ads end up serving malware? Do they take any responsibility for that? Or just say "wasn't us"?

    They may think they have some magic click-through license, but I'll be damned if I think all of those analytics and ad companies should have access to all that. I'm not conducting a transaction with those companies, I'm viewing your publicly available website which makes no effort to keep me out.

    Not my problem about your ads.

    Don't want me to block your ads, make your site subscription based and block me out entirely.

    But don't act like I'm somehow ripping you off. Since their privacy policy is crap, we're just enacting our own.

    Scorecard research, doubleclick, quantserve, and literally HUNDREDS of other companies ... their product is information about me. But I never signed up for that.

    So if some billion dollar media company wants to piss and moan that I'm not watching their ads ... fuck 'em, stop me.

    I rank this crap right up there with "by reading this billboard you agree to have this 3rd party company rifle through your wallet". Yeah, no, there's as many as 30 third parties on a lot of sites ... and I've signed a contract with NONE of them.

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  13. Extortion by cgfsd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Correct me if I am wrong, but if someone creates a product that interferes with someone else’s business and then charges them a fee to stop interfering, isn’t that extortion?

  14. Advertising Bubble? by Moof123 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Craziness in the ad space has all the feel of being a ginormous bubble. Companies who have a business model of selling banner ads via an app and have no other revenue sources seem especially precarious to the perception of advertising effectiveness. If at some point studies come out showing banner ads are as ineffective as I think they are (I think they are a net negative to most companies who use them) the rug could get pulled out from the whole mess.

    People are getting trained to filter this stuff out left and right. I find myself avoiding google when I look for certain things because I know that if they are common I will have to wade through a page or more of paid up links that are mostly only tangentially related to what I am looking for. I can't recall the contents of any recent banner ads, and there are a number of sites I just don't visit on my ipad because they are so awful without AdBlock running.

    How about a new Kickstarter campaign where we pool our money to buy up highway billboard space and put up pretty murals instead of ads?

  15. The OP is not a troll by waspleg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    this is the truth. Anyone who was using adblock plus before the sell out knows this and uses the fork, Adblock Edge, instead.

    1. Re:The OP is not a troll by WCMI92 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Obviously people who work for Adblock Plus have mod points.

      Adblock Edge is the best version of Adblock (remember Adblock Plus itself is a fork of the original Adblock and isn't an original work either) that I've used on Firefox, and I use it and Firefox both on Windows and Mac.

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  16. Re:a layered approach is always best. by c · · Score: 3, Informative

    if this action by ABP is in fact happening, a fork of the project should most certainly be considered as this 'whitelisting' violates an expected feature or function of the application by its community of users (and possibly developers.)

    It's actually pretty old news.

    That being said, I don't recall ever seeing one of those acceptable ads due to the other measures I use like noscript/scriptsafe, so I can't really comment on how acceptable they are.

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  17. Re:There is no such thing as an unobtrusive ad by Zalbik · · Score: 4, Funny

    There is no such thing as an "unobtrusive ad."

    That very term is offensive and is an oxymoron.

    obtrusive (adj.): noticeable or prominent in an unwelcome or intrusive way.
    advertisement (noun): a paid announcement, as of goods for sale, in newspapers or magazines, on radio or television, etc.
    oxymoron (noun): a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction

    You misunderstand the definition of one of the words you are using.