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Banned Weight-loss Drug Could Combat Liver Disease, Diabetes

sciencehabit writes: A drug the U.S. government once branded "extremely dangerous and not fit for human consumption" deserves a second chance, a study of rats suggests. Researchers report (abstract) that a slow-release version of the compound reverses diabetes and nonalcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD), an untreatable condition that can lead to cirrhosis and liver cancer.

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  1. More Impresive if... by sycodon · · Score: 1

    ...they fire it up and let it run for 18 hours.

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    1. Re:More Impresive if... by sycodon · · Score: 1

      Wait...what? Diabetes? Jet Engines?

      Is it Friday yet?

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  2. not fit for human consumption by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Funny, I would label a rust remover "extremely dangerous and not fit for human consumption". Especially if by drinking it you are just begging for diabetes. But Cola is still not banned from the supermarket.

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    1. Re:not fit for human consumption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neither is citrus fruit. What are they trying to do to us?!?!?1

    2. Re:not fit for human consumption by ihtoit · · Score: 4, Informative

      water isn't a rust remover, neither is sugar syrup.

      The amount of phosphoric acid used in cola is so minute it's barely detectable, but yes it is an active corrosive and yes it does cause demineralisation of tooth enamel.

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    3. Re:not fit for human consumption by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      We have had Cola for generations.... However the health conditions that we blame it for, have been on the rise just recently.

      I see the use of Corn Syrup being a bigger factor than blaming Cola.

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    4. Re:not fit for human consumption by krisbrowne42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      At least one other dangerous explosive is commonly used for regulation of heart problems already (nitro-glycerin).

    5. Re:not fit for human consumption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The best rust remover I have yet come across is apple cider vinegar.

    6. Re:not fit for human consumption by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      The best rust remover I have yet come across is apple cider vinegar.

      I'm kind of partial to my sand blaster.

    7. Re:not fit for human consumption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever gets you high, man...

    8. Re:not fit for human consumption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And cola used to be a once a week or month treat, not a two-three times a meal and constantly between meals drink. Also reduced activity, etc.

    9. Re:not fit for human consumption by EvilSS · · Score: 4, Informative

      We have had Cola for generations.... However the health conditions that we blame it for, have been on the rise just recently.

      I see the use of Corn Syrup being a bigger factor than blaming Cola.

      Corn Syrup, increasing portion sizes, a shift to low fat, high carb diets, labeling bad fats as good and good fats as bad.... The past 50 years has not been a good period for nutritional science.

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    10. Re:not fit for human consumption by Jawnn · · Score: 1

      "Is DNP right for you? Ask your doctor. May cause seizure, coma, death and erections lasting longer than four hours."

    11. Re:not fit for human consumption by itzly · · Score: 0

      Corn syrup is pretty much equivalent to sugar for our bodies.

    12. Re:not fit for human consumption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And we even prescribe incredibly unstable, explosive compounds to combat heart disease. What is going on here?

      Next thing you know, they'll reverse the DHMO ban.

    13. Re:not fit for human consumption by OhSoLaMeow · · Score: 1

      "Is DNP right for you? Ask your doctor. May cause seizure, coma, death and erections lasting longer than four hours."

      In that order?

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    14. Re:not fit for human consumption by blivit42 · · Score: 1

      Clearly, we just need to do what Eric Cartman did this past season of South Park -- turn the food pyramid upside down :)

    15. Re:not fit for human consumption by Megane · · Score: 1

      Corn syrup is probably why I stopped drinking Coca-Cola and switched to (aspartame) Diet Coke. It just didn't taste as good, though in recent years I've heard that may be because its flavor is more temperature-sensitive, and aspartame isn't. (Then I gave up DC so I wouldn't have to maintain a consistent caffeine dosage to avoid headaches, but I do get CFDC in the gold cans from time to time.)

      But I also liked the original formula (with sucrose), enough that I could tell the difference in an unexpected blind test. When "New Coke" was about six months old, my mom took me along to a car repair place. They apparently were big on buying sodas by the case. I opened a can of Coca-Cola, took a sip, my eyes got big, and then I noticed the promo offer on the can from just before New Coke. Supposedly switching to HFCS was in fact not the motivation for making New Coke, it just happened to be at the same time.

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    16. Re:not fit for human consumption by outlander · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean DMSO?

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    17. Re:not fit for human consumption by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

      Corn syrup is pretty much equivalent to sugar for our bodies.

      For some value of "pretty much". HFCS both changes the mix of the simple sugars by tilting it towards fructose, but it provides them in partially-digested form. That bypasses the normal first step of splitting glucose, and creates an immediate overload of the rest of the process.

      Our bodies were designed to store extra energy for use later. If the carbs digest slowly then they don't swamp the system and the storage systems aren't triggered. A slower release of glucose means there isn't a heavy demand for insulin to deal with it and less stress on the pancreas, and then lower stress on the cellular insulin receptors.

      It's kinda like the difference between taking a two hour walk around the park and trying to run the distance in ten minutes. If you keep making your body run the race you will wear it out faster than if you let it stroll the same distance.

    18. Re:not fit for human consumption by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      We have had Cola for generations.... However the health conditions that we blame it for, have been on the rise just recently.

      It has been going down hill ever since they removed the cocaine and cola nuts.

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    19. Re:not fit for human consumption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Normally after death you get a full-body erection that lasts 24 to 48 hours.

    20. Re:not fit for human consumption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can wank that all you like! Also you shit your pants.

    21. Re:not fit for human consumption by Adriax · · Score: 1

      Is that like a Sex on the Beach but with seltzer added?
      Or do you just drink it prematurely?

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  3. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    Ok, I'd heard about BETA but never had seen it before.

    So, is this beta or just something worse till beta comes?

    JFC....why does someone have to change something JUST For the sake of change. What was wrong with they way /. has looked for the past years?

    It is now a PITA to go see what comments are threaded onto my comments...whereas it was quite easy to see and tell when new ones came onto your part of the thread in response to you.

    I just discovered the Soylent News thing....maybe that will indeed be the new slashdot.

    This is very disappointing. Not everyone views everything through the small fucking screen of a cell phone.

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  4. The drug is 2,4-dinitrophenol (DNP) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Title and summary didn't name the subject of the article, adding here.

    1. Re:The drug is 2,4-dinitrophenol (DNP) by eepok · · Score: 2

      THANK YOU!

      It's not exactly a summary if such necessary details are omitted.

  5. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by Gliscameria · · Score: 0

    I keep getting mod points that I can't use because the dropdown isn't rendering anymore.

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  6. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

    > "extremely dangerous and not fit for human consumption"

    This Slashdot beta really is getting out of control.

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  7. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by gmack · · Score: 2

    Beta no longer exists.

  8. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2

    And now apparently instead of at least having a sandbox to make changes in, they just dump their untested code into the main Slashdot page.

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  9. just FYI by ihtoit · · Score: 5, Informative

    The drug is dinitrophenol. From the medical texts:

    DNP is an ATP inhibitor, which means it prevents cell mitochondria from synthesising ATP from simple sugars. Taken in excess, DNP can cause cell death by starvation and organism death by hyperthermia (it causes an imbalance in the proton gradient which results in the release of large amounts of heat). The good: you'll be thin. The bad: you'll be dead. But at least you won't be cold.

    Industrial uses include a precursor to sulphur dyes, and a component in liquid and plastic explosives. The US FDA and the UK's Food Standards Agency have both condemned DNP as a dangerous industrial chemical that should not be taken internally. Doses as low as 20mg/kg (in humans) are shown to be lethal (http://dx.doi.org/10.1081%2Fclt-200058946).

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    1. Re:just FYI by swm · · Score: 1

      Heh...if this is the drug I'm thinking of... ...ATP inhibitor...imbalance in the proton gradient...

      What it does is leak protons across the mitochondrial membrane, which is tantamount to creating an internal short circuit in a battery.
      You know, like those Lithiuum-ion batteries that sometimes spontaneously combust.

      One of the first things the FDA did after it was established was get this stuff off the market.

    2. Re:just FYI by omnichad · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Doses as low as 20mg/kg (in humans) are shown to be lethal (http://dx.doi.org/10.1081%2Fclt-200058946).

      That's roughly 20 times the LD50 of nicotine. And probably right in the range of lots of other useful drugs.

    3. Re:just FYI by mpe · · Score: 1

      DNP is an ATP inhibitor, which means it prevents cell mitochondria from synthesising ATP from simple sugars.

      Mitochondria can't handle sugars anyway. What happens is that sugars must first be converted to something mitochondria can use within the cytoplasm. This is generally either pyruvate or lactate.
      On the other hand mitochondria can directly use carboxylic acids.

    4. Re:just FYI by avandesande · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The important thing to consider though is what the size of the therapeutic dose compared to a hazardous dose.

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    5. Re:just FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Doses as low as 20mg/kg (in humans) are shown to be lethal

      Which is actually a pretty freaking high dosage for many drugs. That's two grams for a somewhat overweight guy (220 lbs). The thyroid medicine I take (danger, contains iodine, a disinfectant!) is less than 100 micrograms total, or about 0.001 mg/kg.

      Someone above mentioned nitroglycerin. I carry that around in my pocket, just in case (never needed it).

      And the blood-thinner coumadine is also known as warfarin, a widely-used rat poison.

      As the saying goes, "the dose makes the poison".

    6. Re:just FYI by omnichad · · Score: 2

      And I didn't have a membership to view the article or I would have calculated just that.

    7. Re:just FYI by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Well, my wife needs a blood thinner, but strenuously avoided coumadine-warfarin. You can't eat green vegetables if you take warfarin, because vitamin K deactivates it. (So she's taking apixaban, which isn't affected by diet.)

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    8. Re:just FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The good: you'll be thin. The bad: you'll be dead. But at least you won't be cold.

      The great: you'll become a great fit to the energy farms of the machines.

    9. Re:just FYI by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      > You can't eat green vegetables if you take warfarin,

      That's ok. I don't eat green vegetables anyway.

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    10. Re:just FYI by ComputerPhreak · · Score: 1

      Go look up some accounts of bodybuilders who have taken DNP for weight loss. This "drug" (more accurately termed a poison) is used in a variety of places, including: "Commercial DNP is primarily used as an antiseptic. It is a precursor to sulfur dyes.[2] DNP is a chemical intermediate in the production of some herbicides including dinoseb and dinoterb. It has also been used to make photographic developer and explosives." People who inject grams of steroids and all other kinds of drugs even refuse to take it. The danger is that the lethal dose is only a few times greater than the effective dose. It is, however, incredibly efficacious... just also very dangerous.

    11. Re:just FYI by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      you mean the thereputic index

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    12. Re: just FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't eat four pounds of broccoli per day when taking a coumarin.

      There, fixed that for you.

    13. Re:just FYI by hey! · · Score: 1

      Well, like Paracelsus said, the dose makes the poison. Or in this case the release mechanism.

      Blood concentrations of drugs usually peak an hour or two after ingestion and then taper off depending on the mechanisms the body uses to either break the drug down or excrete it directly (when you're an old Geek, you begin to pick up a lot of this stuff). So it's entirely plausible that the same amount of drug which would be dangerous in an ordinary pill would be acceptably safe in a timed release formulation, particularly if it is quickly eliminated from the body. The concentration in the patients' tissues would never reach dangerous levels. You can think of it as a lower "instantaneous" dose.

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    14. Re: just FYI by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but you severly underestimate the problem. Severely. When she was on warfarin she had to take blood tests several times a week, and they kept changing the dose because her diet wasn't rigidly unchanging.

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  10. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by aitikin · · Score: 1
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  11. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by The+Fifth+Man · · Score: 0

    Back in 2006 Slashdot ran a CSS redesign contest. Slashdot users overwhelmingly preferred Peter Lada's redesign:
    http://web.archive.org/web/201...

    Slashdot, in contravention, picked a mobile-ready, stripped down design that left a lot to be desired.

    Then the beta fiasco with the Dice purchase happened in 2014, IIRC. It was presented in a VERY confrontational 'fuck you' way: get ready to have this shoved down your throat for the sake of pointless redesign. Needless to say, they gave users an option for a while and then they appeared to drop the issue.

    But change HAS to happen at SOME point, because you NEED to utterly derail what works, right? In order to avoid a hue and cry, Slashdot will be making unannounced incremental changes like this. Why? Because fuck the slashdot community, that's why.

  12. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by ihtoit · · Score: 1

    think they're trying the 7" phablet look, rather than a 2.5" squint screen. Either way, yes, this shit fails.

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  13. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by SmokeBogey · · Score: 1

    This. Annoying as hell, my only contribution to /. is moderation, which is now impossible except on beta. Which also sucks, because I have to highlight with my mouse, then tab to the mod I want to make. Move the mouse and the damn box disappears.

  14. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every single time they've released a new interface and taken feedback the response has been "this is worse than everything you've ever had before" almost universally. So with the latest beta they didn't bother with the "how do you like the new interface" thread because they were just going to ignore it anyway.

  15. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

    Ok, I'd heard about BETA but never had seen it before.
    So, is this beta or just something worse till beta comes?

    No, it's not beta. Beta's a lot worse (think full of AJAX). This is really a bunch of minor tweaks that kinda-sorta broke whitepacing and other things. Which is probably why it isn't as objectionable - there are still plenty of issues (missing Post buttons and the reply link often overlaps the comments), but it works and is really a bunch of minor changes than the crap that was beta.

  16. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    I couldn't figure how to post to the thread with no previous comments (where was the reply button?)

    I found it. There's a "Post" button just above the word "Threshold" in the green bar where you can change how comments are displayed. The word "Post" is in very slightly lighter green than the green bar itself. If you hover over it, it will turn into a gray square button with "Post" in black text. I actually found it by accident when moving the mouse around. When I realized what it was I tried to see it without hovering over it. If you know that it's there, you may see it from a normal viewing distance. But I didn't see it until I really looked closely.

  17. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

    The Reply to This, Parent, and Share hyperlinks use a different front and if someone has a .sig they overlap it. That's one of the problems.

  18. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    No, it's not beta. Beta's a lot worse (think full of AJAX).

    "Oh my God; it's full of AJAX !" was the original line in 2010, but they eventually changed it to "stars !"

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  19. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    It's a little easier to see the word "Post" in IE than it is in FF.

  20. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by Caesar+Tjalbo · · Score: 3, Informative

    I can. It's a butt ugly standard dropdown box but it works.

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  21. NAFLD?! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

    It's not known as NAFLD. It's known as NASH. Non Alcoholic SteatoHepatitis. It's even in the title of the TFA FFS.

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    1. Re:NAFLD?! by xanthines-R-yummy · · Score: 1

      Well, NAFLD is a real thing and related to NASH.

      One issue I have, is that the very first sentence of the abstract is probably incorrect. NAFLD doesn't lead to diabetes, it's the other way around. In the full article, they back away from saying NAFLD causes diabetes and merely says they are related. The biggest problem, is that they used rats, and rats just don't get diabetes, NASH, or NAFLD (or heart disease either, for that fact), so they have to heavily heavily manipulate the rats' genetic background, as well as a ludicrous diet. I'm not saying their study is bad, but just that in a heavily modified animal model system, well... let's not break out the champagne and Noble prizes just yet. What might be more interesting is the chemistry involved to make a "safe" form of DNP. Don't tell the high school girls, they'll all want it!

      The title of the Slashdot summary should really be edited to end with "... in rats."

    2. Re:NAFLD?! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      I haven't read the study in detail yet, but in general, yes - the study will be bad. They usually are.

      Feeding rats on trans-fat laden crisco was the generally preferred way to screw up a rat's metabolism. The disappearance of trans-fats from supermarket shelves has revealed holes in many studies when they're found to not be repeatable.

      Long term consumption of low-dose DNP has an air of "What could possibly go wrong?" to it.

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  22. Remember Thalidomide by rssrss · · Score: 2

    It was banned after it was discovered to be the cause of severe birth defects. Later it was discovered to be useful for:

    ... for a number of conditions including: erythema nodosum leprosum, multiple myeloma and a number of other cancers, for some symptoms of HIV/AIDS, Crohn's disease, sarcoidosis, graft-versus-host disease, rheumatoid arthritis and a number of skin conditions that have not responded to usual treatment.

    URL.

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    1. Re:Remember Thalidomide by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
      INT. RORITOR BUILDING BOARD ROOM
      BIG STUMMIES SCIENTIST: Well, Ive been working on a thing. It's, uh, sorta like Stummies.
      DON: Go on. I like what I hear.
      BIG STUMMIES SCIENTIST: It's exactly like Stummies.
      DON: And the twist is?
      BIG STUMMIES SCIENTIST: It's a much bigger pill.
      DON: I like a lot. Is it ready for production?
      BIG STUMMIES SCIENTIST: Yes sir, it's ready to go.
      DON: Yeah, have there been any side effects?
      BIG STUMMIES SCIENTIST Yes sir, a few side effects.
      NATALIE: Well that's OK. As long as there's no flipper babies, right Don?

      Everyone LAUGHS.
      BIG STUMMIES SCIENTIST: Well, there have been a few flipper babies.

      CUT TO:

      INT. RORITOR BUILDING HALLWAY/ELEVATOR
      Marv and Chris are coming out of the elevator. The Big Stummies Scientist is is hysterical and is being carried away by two security guards.
      BIG STUMMIES SCIENTIST: AHHH! It was only a couple of flipper babies!

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  23. Banned Weight-loss Drug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    "Banned Weight-loss Drug Could Combat Liver Disease, Diabetes"

    And that drug? Exercise. That's right. Exercise.

  24. The future of medicine by jd.schmidt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In the future, our laws and the FDA are going to have to reform to adjust to a new realty. In brief, there no bad chemicals or bad drugs, only bad uses. Medicine has been so extraordinarily good at providing near miraculous cures, that we have come to have a "magic pill" mindset. This drug magically cures this disease and is "safe". The reality of medicine is a series of tradeoffs, typically the tradeoffs are greatly to our advantage, but not always. Further, it has long been known that a drug that works for one person doesn't work for someone else. There is no doubt that targeted medicine, what I consider a subset of open source medicine, is the next critical system break through. For example, this is why it is so intriguing to be putting IBM Watson on the task of medicine, Watson will be able to analysis your personal health makeup and suggest a drug appropriate for you, along with recommended possible side effect markers to watch and even possibly test for! How do you go about regulating medicine is such an environment, in the future it will no longer make sense for the FDA to "approve" or "disapprove" a drug. Rather the most sensible course will be to monitor an accurate database of effects and make sure all the participants are following correct recording procedures, along with assuring purity of products. If you follow through this logic, you will quickly realize it calls into question the current system of patents. Where an entity has a financial interest is promoting a particular drug, it also has an interest in suppressing negative information and promoting positive. Under such circumstances it isn’t strongly in anyone personal interest, other than an illegal cartel, to promote inappropriate uses of a particular drug. Obviously some system of financial rewards/incentives need to be applied, and of course no can work for free. But just as the open source software movement hasn’t killed off software companies, nor will making a space for open source medicine kill of drug companies. Indeed the free flow of ideas has only enhanced technological progress. I hope I have convinced some of you to embrace a move to open source medicine.

  25. I have an easier cure by Atrox666 · · Score: 1

    I prevent non-alcholic fatty liver disease with large volumes of alcohol.

  26. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by azav · · Score: 1

    I completely hate the new layout.

    it looks like ass on my Mac and too many buttons don't have backgrounds until I mouseover them.

    There are also loads of text layout issues.

    Completely sucks.

    Slashdot, do not follow in this idiotic bandwagon of "flat" or minimal UI design. It sucks ass. Ass does not want to be sucked.

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  27. Scott Malkinson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The power of diabetes is both a blessing and a curse. But mostly a curse.

  28. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

    If it aint broke, break it?

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  29. Re:just FYI - The Dose Makes the Poison by rjune · · Score: 1

    The dose makes the poison: There is an excellent book by that name: http://www.amazon.com/Dose-Mak... It should be required reading before posting on this topic.

  30. Car Analogy by Guppy · · Score: 1

    DNP is an ATP inhibitor, which means it prevents cell mitochondria from synthesising ATP from simple sugars.

    I think I understand what you're trying to say, but let me make it a bit more clear using a car analogy. Yes, you get less ATP out at the end, but that's not really the point of the drug.

    DNP is an oxidative phosphorylation decoupler. What this means, it that it does the equivalent of popping your clutch into neutral, and then stomping on the gas. Your mitochondria will rev-up furiously, but no ATP is produced as you have just decoupled the connection between the engine and the wheels. In the meantime, you burn a lot of gas.

  31. The title almost seems like an advertisement by jennatalia · · Score: 0

    "Check out this one weird trick the FDA doesn't want you to know about a banned weight-loss drug that could combat liver disease & diabetes."