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Islamic State Doxes US Soldiers, Airmen, Calls On Supporters To Kill Them
An anonymous reader writes in with this story about the latest weapon used by ISIS: doxing. "Middle East terrorist organization Islamic State (ISIS) has called on its followers take the fight to 100 members of the United States military residing in the US. A group calling itself the 'Islamic State Hacking Division' has posted names, addresses, and photographs of soldiers, sailors, and airmen online, asking its 'brothers residing in America' to murder them, according to Reuters. Although the posting purports to come from the 'Hacking Division,' US Department of Defense officials say that none of their systems appear to have been breached by the group. Instead, the personal data was almost certainly culled from publicly available sources, a DoD official told the New York Times on the condition of anonymity."
The military needs to post a few names and addresses themselves. They'll look like regular houses but they'll actually be guard posts. If anyone shows up and starts shooting, they end up dead.
Targeting those with the ability to shoot back seems like a less than cunning plan.
the personal data was almost certainly culled from publicly available sources
IS has called for the deaths of:
Sgt Bilko
Captain John Carter
Colonel Jack O'Neil
Colonel Jack O'Neill
Major Dad
General Hospital
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But doxing of other activists would really have a chilling effect in the political speech. Hope agencies take doxing seriously and if any of the perps are within jurisdiction, hope they catch them and punish them.
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You've forgotten Colonel Sanders and General Tso, both responsible for the death of innumerable chickens.
Don't be silly - incitement to murder is still illegal. Your link about a public pedophile registry case has NOTHING to do with this.
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How does that even work is the list millions of names long? It is not like any of this is highly guarded secret. If someone in america wants ti kill soldiers they would not need some random internet list to find any.
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
God help them if they target Commander Shepard.
You'd like to publicly hear the NSA's investigation the same day the news hits? And if they don't then what, the NSA is in league with ISIS?
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These so-called 'islamic state' assholes? They need to die. Every last one of them. No negotiations, no trials, no 'explanations' -- just fucking KILL THEM ALL, male, female, I don't fucking care, just KILL THEM. Children below a certain age can be de-programmed and put with families that will care for them and raise them to be rational, responsible, sane human beings -- but every last adult that is involved with this uber-asshole 'organization'? They need to be killed.
This isn't even about religion. It's about a power-vacuum that was created in the Middle East, which allowed these assholes to swoop in with their ultra-extremist bullshit and start setting up shop. These assholes are like a socio-economic version of the Black Plague, and like any other epidemic, it needs to be erradicated, completely.
Of course I can't ignore the fact that there will always be violent assholes in the world that will use religion of any kind as an excuse to be violent assholes on a large scale, and as unpopular an opinion as it apparently is in the world, I just wish that humans in general would fucking grow out of this apparently genetic need for a god or gods of any kind. All it seems to do is open the door for more atrocities, more ignorance (much of it willful ignorance), more backsliding, and in general more bullshit. I make jokes sometimes about how 'XYZ is the reason that alien civilizations won't contact us openly', but I'm only half kidding oftimes when I say it -- as is the case with this subject: If there are in fact starfaring alien civilizations out there that have been observing us, they must look at this sort of bullshit (and the Inquisition, and the Salem witch trials, and who knows how many other atrocities that have been committed over the centuries) and feel nothing but disgust and maybe pity for our poor race, that we're so afflicted by such a major flaw in our cognitive process.
Not posted as Anonymous Coward, because I'm not one. Come and get me, assholes. We, the sane, rational people of the world, we reject you and your fucking ultra-extremist bullshit. You claim to be doing the work of Allah? I CALL BULLSHIT ON THAT; you're just a bunch of power-hungry FRAUDS who enjoy killing people, and we will see you all DEAD for your crimes against humanity. It's time for this shit to stop.
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you really hold an organization like ISIS and the US Govt on the same moral equivalency?
i don't care how much you hate the USA, you fail the ability of coherent thought if you think the USA and ISIS are morally the same
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you really hold an organization like ISIS and the US Govt on the same moral equivalency?
i don't care how much you hate the USA, you fail the ability of coherent thought if you think the USA and ISIS are morally the same
I wasn't claiming moral equivalence, just behavioral equivalence. The USA is run by a completely amoral group of people for whom human life has little value. I'll say the same about ISIS. Since I'm talking about amoral people its hardly a matter of 'moral equivalence'. Its not like I'm giving it a number and saying they are both at the same level of morality. They don't even have NO morality. They see themselves as operating at a meta-level above morality.
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
You know, taken to the extreme, that becomes a difficult position to defend.
A group of people who want to force their beliefs on the world, and who are willing to cause civilian deaths if it achieves their ends, who don't care about the rights of anybody not in their number ... and then there's ISIS.
ISIS pretty much act like barbarians. Then again, killing civilians indiscriminately with drone strikes as "collateral damage" is pretty barbaric as well.
America are no angels here, and their security apparatus is undermining the rights and liberties of everyone on the planet.
I find it hard to accept the notion that there is no moral equivalency for the worst behavior.
I think ISIS are ideological crazy bastards. And then I look a the American right, and see equally crazy bastards who want the world to reflect their religion and are more than willing to force their beliefs on power through force.
And then I'm forced to conclude they're really both crazy and delusional, and view their own cause as somehow being different.
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OK, now can we admit its not a "religion of peace"?
(quick, mod him down, he said something we don't like! Plus all religions are equally evil - Presbyterians are just itchin to shop off some heads! Plus, wascally wepubwicans!)
Your argument is based on a lie. Show me any evidence that the US is killing civilians "indiscriminately" much less deliberately.
you don't have to like the USA, but if you look at the leadership of the USA, and you look at the leadership of ISIS, and you see the same kind of people, you aren't announcing an understanding of the world, you are merely announcing that you have a horribly stunted social defect, and no grasp on moral reasoning
the usa has done horrible horrible things in the world. but to examine their motivations, actions, targets, etc., and see the same as ISIS on those measures, you're a moron on this topic. there's no other nicer way to say it. and it's not a baseless insult to call you that. it's an objective appraisal of the quality of the words you have written and the topic at hand. you're a socially stunted individual who should stop talking about a topic you lack the social abilities to understand
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Yeah, well call me when John Boehner starts burning people alive and posting it to Youtube.
Bleh, ISIS is the 'contras' of the middle east, keeping out the commies. They receive their weapons (billions of dollars worth, 500 mil was just declared "unaccounted for") at drop off points in Libya, Yemen, Iraq, etc. And then the lapdog press dutifully reports that they have been 'raided'. Why would anybody believe there is anything 'moral' in this business from either side? It's a business! And business is damn good right now. Don't be so deluded into believing the US is any more innocent than anybody.
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Various towns around here must not have gotten the OPSEC memo. For years they have flown banners on main street with local service members names and faces.
Personally I think it is a nice tribute and hope it continues. These service members are at a greater driving their car on the highway than from ISIS. Lets not get all hysterical, which is what ISIS wants.
The difference between ISIS and the USA, is that when the USA tortures or murders innocent people, it forces news organizations to sue under the FOIA for pictographic or video evidence. When ISIS does that stuff, it posts the evidence to youtube. Either way, the actions are despicable, ISIS is just less media savvy (the US having learned from Viet Nam the importance of limiting what gets published).
What changed under Obama? Nothing Good
This is most certainly NOTprotected speech. It is a specific and immediate threat to harm someone. If Isis had posted something like 'death to soldiers' this might be protected because while it is a threat it is not specific or immediate.
... not of us, but of them. ISIS is sort of like an extremely virulent infection. It is really bad if you get it, but it kills so fast that the patient dies before the infection has time to spread much, and it has EVERYBODY working to exterminate it. At the moment, all of the batshit crazy teenagers filled with Islamic Angst are heading ISIS-ward to be indoctrinated and (one supposes) employed eventually as suicide bombers. The only problem is, it requires a special kind of crazy to become a suicide bomber or fatwah-murderer, and the world has a finite supply of that kind of crazy. The other problem is that collecting all of the nut-cases in one place makes it comparatively easy to (eventually) hit them with the moral equivalent of an antibiotic.
The only thing that I can see ISIS accomplishing is -- eventually -- convincing the moderate Islamic world that it is better to be an atheist (or at worst, any other religionist) than to be Muslim. Pakistan made a major play in that direction yesterday when the woman was beaten and then burned to death for allegedly burning the Quran. It publicly stated that it was wrong for the public to have killed this woman for burning the Quran -- only it (the government) got to prosecute and then murder the woman for burning the Quran. It never occurred to them that it might be absolutely insane to murder somebody, ever, for burning a book that you bought, paid for, and own. Especially a violent, psychotic, hate-filled document like the Quran. Or a violent, psychotic, hate-filled document like the Bible (either part). Or any religious text, violent, psychotic, and hate-filled or not. Or a copy of Dirac's Quantum Mechanics (although there it might arguably be an act of criminal stupidity).
I'm tempted to go out and burn a Quran myself out of sheer sympathy and in protest and in support of freedom of speech and freedom of (and from!) religion. But first I'd have to buy a copy of the Quran, and who wants to reward the idiots who publish it? So I just bring up copies of the Skeptics Annotated Quran on my browser and then -- wait for it -- close the browser window. Just like that, I make my current copy of the Quran disappear, even worse than just burning it. Over and over again. I may even write a script to copy an online version of it and overwrite it repeatedly with random numbers. Some people are so very, very, 17th century clueless about information.
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"Then again, killing civilians indiscriminately with drone strikes as "collateral damage" is pretty barbaric as well."
You are an idiot. The entire purpose of drone strikes is to carry out very targeted killings. If we didn't care about collateral damage and didn't mind indiscriminately killing people, expensive drones would not be necessary. All we'd need is some far cheaper cluster bombs. Maybe some napalm.
Most of the USA does not agree with the American religious right, which is what you are referencing. Most of ISIS does not disagree with ISIS.
Actually most of ISIS disagrees with ISIS much more strongly, since most of them are coerced into joining at gunpoint.
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If the US were deliberately targeting civilians the dead would not number in the hundreds or even thousands but in the millions. A lot of the reason for the slow progress against ISIS is that ISIS has gotten so good at hiding among civilian populations and as a result the US and it's allies have to sift through and try to surgically remove them. Mistakes are made and innocents die but if not for the attempt at pinpoint strikes an incredible body count would arise. I disagree with what the US is doing as I've basically become an isolationist in the last couple of decades. The aim is to be proactive so as to prevent a bad situation from becoming a nightmare down the road. Militant Islam is a much bigger threat to Europe than the US and I'd like to see how it plays out against the moral snobbery of the European hypocrisy. I think I'd enjoy watching as the crazies finally force France and other enlightened nations to make hard choices about how to handle an insurgent assault against their freedom. Yes, I'd love to see all those hypocrites respond to charlie hebdo style attacks on a weekly basis. I wonder if they'd still have their outrage against collateral damage.
you really hold an organization like ISIS and the US Govt on the same moral equivalency?
i don't care how much you hate the USA, you fail the ability of coherent thought if you think the USA and ISIS are morally the same
You're right, at least ISIS stand by what they believe in.
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Drone strikes set people on fire if they aren't close enough to be completely incinerated. They're called "Hellfire" missiles for a reason.
You're right that they don't tend to end up on YouTube though. Better that they end up on CNN instead.
Obviously you care about collateral damage, not because the USA is such a bunch of caring hippies but because the purpose of drone strikes is to exercise power. You cannot exercise power over dead people. You have to instead kill anyone who does something against your will, or is suspected of doing so, or just someone who got in the way to serve as a lesson to others. If you see the purpose of drone strikes as minimising casualties in a conventional war then you don't understand what drone strikes are for or why the USA uses them. Their purpose is power.
Most of the USA does not agree with the American religious right, which is what you are referencing. Most of ISIS does not disagree with ISIS.
Nice, most USAians don't agree with the religious right but most of the religious right do. Most muslims don't tend to agree with ISIS either. Here your equivalents are UASians - Muslims and USA religious right - ISIS. If you want to tar them all with the same brush you're starting from very shakey grounds.
You can almost guarantee if they thought they could get away with it (at least some of) the religious right there(USA) would seriously consider carving themselves out some land, through force of arms most likely because the land is already claimed. Then try and expand that and take in all peoples under their brand of religion to 'save the souls of mankind' and kill everyone who disagrees. Just like ISIS are doing. just like happened in the crusades, just as any religion taken to the extreme is want to do.
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Just because you sanitized it a little doesn't make it right. Drones are a little more targeted but still kill unacceptably high numbers of civilians. Civilians you are not even at war with.
Drone strikes are what motivate a lot of the people fighting against you.
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"Relatively recent" is 1916. Nobody responsible for that is still alive. You falsely equate atrocities a century ago with ongoing atrocities today.