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Costa Rica Goes 75 Days Powering Itself Using Only Renewable Energy

An anonymous reader writes with news about an impressive renewable energy accomplishment in Costa Rica. Costa Rica has achieved a clean energy milestone by using 100 per cent renewable energy for a record 75 days in a row. The feat was achieved thanks to heavy rainfall, which powered four hydroelectric plants in the first three months of the year, the state-run Costa Rican Electricity Institute said. No fossil fuels have been burnt to generate electricity since December 2014, in the state which is renowned for its clean energy policies."

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  1. And now why this can not be done in the USofA by houghi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I will sit back and see how this is not possible in the USofA.
    OTOH Renewable energy is not something new. Look at the Hooverdam. And there is dessert enough available to put a LOT of sun collectors.

    The real issue is that this will require investment in research and that means not making a profit in the next 3 years, which is about the duration of how far a CXO looks.

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    1. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hydroelectric for some reason is never talked about for green energy. Because of the Hoover dam image. A large structure that completely changes the local environment. The problem is in america, we are still stuck on the idea of Big Energy large grids covering the nation. We don't think in terms of small energy, having a small community powered by modest green sources. And every community can have different sources to meet their needs. Solar is good. But some of us live in areas where there is a lot of tree cover (and cutting trees isn't really the green option), Other areas have a decent wind, and others are near running water. These smaller sections will in agragate may take up more space, their impact is actually a lot less, as a smaller plot of land can heal a lot faster then say plowing down hundred acres.

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    2. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by Dunbal · · Score: 2

      There's always room for dessert. But I don't like eating solar panels.

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    3. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by rmdingler · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Damming a large (or small) river runs the same gauntlet with greenthink groups as most non-petroleum energy sources: It is a bit of an eyesore and it alters the flow of a majestic natural resource. Ironically, environmentalists most interested in alternatives are the pickiest sort.

      I think it is clear that alternative sources of energy not only exist, but will be brought to bear once the easy-peasy carbons are depleted or no longer cost-effective.

      What everyone needs to come to grips with is that there is no energy source that meets our current demands without some negative environmental impact.

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    4. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Hydroelectric for some reason is never talked about for green energy

      Hydroelectric is not usually talked about for the same reason that geothermal is not usually talked about, and that you won't find people talking about wave power in the middle of the Sahara, it's a fantastic technology, if and only if you have the geology to use it.

      Many dams are used for drinking water where you don't want to run out turbines, those that aren't already have turbines. It's not a very good green technology compared to say wind or solar which can be used practically anywhere.

    5. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by Trepidity · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think in the U.S.'s current situation it's hard to find things that even more moderate people would accept that are still big enough to produce a significant change in energy. A big hydro installation is really big, and typically requires flooding an absolutely massive area. China can pull off something like the Three Gorges project because it's heavily central planned and controls dissent, but I don't think you could get that to fly in the U.S., even if the major environmental groups disappeared tomorrow. Heck even something the size of the Hoover Dam is not that palatable to many people anymore.

      Maybe if it were really in the middle of nowhere, like damming up a river in Alaska, than the average person would be fine with it, and you'd have only environmentalists opposing it. But energy transmission is expensive, so damming rivers in Alaska isn't very cost-effective.

    6. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by dbIII · · Score: 2

      Big Energy large grids covering the nation. We don't think in terms of small energy

      "Small energy" with a "big energy" grid spanning timezones and increasing amounts of HVDC to sharply reduce transmission losses can give a very nice "big picture". The wind is always blowing somewhere (although some idiot here argued for ages about frequent continent wide calms that never happen), rain/snow is going to end up somewhere on a continent, and that solar in Texas is going to be kicking out the watts before California wakes up. Yes fossil fuels exist but let's just talk about the topic at hand.
      The grid spanning time zones gives you the wonderful situation of a shifting peak instead of everyone wanting the maximum amount of electricity at the same time - a way to save needing a lot of extra capacity if they were all State sized grids.

    7. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Informative

      "The real issue is that this will require investment in research and that means not making a profit in the next 3 years, which is about the duration of how far a CXO looks."
      Ahh... No.
      1. There is not enough hydro resources in the US. The US has actually exploited a lot of them already. They US already gets 7% from hydro and has been using it for decades.
      2. "And there is dessert enough available to put a LOT of sun collectors." And no effective way to store it for use at night and the evenings. Solar only produces power for around 8 hours a day. Less in the winter. Storage is now and has been a problem forever. Lots of money is being out into battery tech but nothing is shipping yet. Solar production also does not match peak demand. It comes close in summer but still drops to near zero while peak hours are still in effect. Also most desserts in the US are in the south. They have shorter days than areas in the north of the US in summer and much higher temperatures which means lots of AC.
      Even Germany which people like to show as Solar working is really not a working system. They are going to massive coal plants for base load.
      http://www.businessinsider.com...

      Costa Rica is a small mountainous nation that has huge amounts of rain forests. Frankly it was dumb for them to ever use fossil fuels for electricity except as a back up. In many ways they are like Iceland in that regard. The US has a lot of hydro resources and is using them but it is not enough to power the entire US.

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    8. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Right now their religion supports solar and wind power, and solar and wind power ONLY.

      http://www.greenpeace.org/inte...

      Note how even Greenpeace, one of the most hard line environmental movements, clearly states that there will need to be a mix of energy sources that includes wind and solar but also many others. For the time being fossil fuel is necessary, as is nuclear, but in the long term purely renewable sources (including hydo, geothermal, tidal and various non-PV types of solar) is possible. By long term they are stating around 2050 if the world makes a massive, concerted effort, which is obviously quite unlikely.

      Your argument is a straw man. No major organization is arguing for just solar PV and wind.

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    9. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by lars_stefan_axelsson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      and others are near running water.

      In Sweden at the moment (where we have about 50% hydro, give or take), we're busy tearing down all the small dams and generation facilities in the south, since what puny amounts of power they generate doesn't outweigh the loss of fish habitat and migration routes.

      Truth be told, small scale anything sucks (with the possible exception of solar panels on your roof for AC and possibly charging your electric vehicle.) Wind and hydro electrics in particular work better the bigger they are. And when it comes to hydro electrics it's better to royally screw up a large river or two and get your moneys worth of electricity and to hell with the fishies, than piss about and destroy every little stream with not much to show for it. And no fish whatsoever, anywhere.

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    10. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by Jaime2 · · Score: 2

      Sure you could put Niagara Falls in a dam, but it wouldn't be pretty.

      They went through a lot of effort to get hydro power from Niagara Falls without ruining the tourist attraction factor. Instead of turning it into a dam, a three square mile reservoir was built and water is diverted from the upper river to this reservoir (mostly) at night. During the day, the dam creates energy by draining the reservoir into the lower river. No part of the power generation system is within a mile of the falls itself.

    11. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by MrL0G1C · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How hugely ironic that you choose to spout prejudiced BS about environmentalists only liking solar + wind, and then you go on to ignore geothermal, wave, tidal, bio-waste, energy efficiency, and plenty of other ways to create, store and reduce energy usage in a less destructive manner.

      Nuclear is clearly your religion.

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    12. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Five square metres of solar panel on every single domestic roof in the USA would produce a very significant energy change. 125 million houses * 5Kw is 625 gigawatts. Germany has 23 gigawatts of domestic solar panels, which, on a sunny day, is sufficient to power the whole country. Yes, obviously, it doesn't work twenty-four hours a day, or in bad weather. Yes, obviously, you need to find some way of storing energy, such as compressed air, hydrogen hydrolysis, pumped storage or whatever. None of this is rocket science.

      Bottom line: the USA could power its whole economy, including road vehicles, on domestic solar panels alone.

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    13. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2

      It's more a problem that pretty much any river in the US that is suitable for a large hydro project, already has large hydro projects built in the 1930s through 1960s.

      We weren't afraid of mega-dam projects in the past - look at some of the dams on the Columbia as proof, specifically the Grand Coulee Dam which holds back 9 km^3 of water and produces 6800 MW of power - over 3x what Hoover Dam puts out. And it's one of 14 dams on the Columbia.

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    14. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 2
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    15. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by evenmoreconfused · · Score: 2

      Also, a big dam is a huge local environmental change, but that happens only once, and eventually wildlife and vegetation re-establish themselves in a new pattern. But thereafter, the dam keeps producing electricity for decades or centuries.

      Quebec, for example, built the James Bay project (which covers an area the size of the state of New York) in the 1970s, and it continues to provide Quebec and much of New England with some of the cheapest power in the world. FWIW, Quebec has generated 99.8% of its power from renewables for decades -- the remainder comes from a few small diesel facilities to back up wind farms in remote regions.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J...

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    16. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by lars_stefan_axelsson · · Score: 2

      Yes of course it can "work", in the sense that it can deliver electricity. No-one is questioning that. However, they destroy a lot more waterway than what they deliver electricity, so since we actually want fish (to eat), on the whole, small scale hydro is a net loss and that's why we're decommissioning them.

      As a comparison there are about 2000 hydro electric power stations in Sweden, 10% (200) of those produce 94% of the energy... So there's clearly room for clearing out a lot of small plants without affecting production at all basically. (And then there are 2000 decomissioned power stations, many of which still have the dams intact, so tearing those out is at the top of the agenda).

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    17. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by presidenteloco · · Score: 2

      "What everyone needs to come to grips with is that there is no energy source without environmental impact."

      True, but that doesn't mean we should throw our hands up and stop exercising judgement.

      Impacts can be weighed, placed on a relative magnitude and severity of risk/impact scale, and acted on accordingly.

      On such a scale, the impacts of for example, solar PV and wind technology are fairly obviously much less than that of continued fossil fuel energy systems.

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    18. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Informative

      OK, so make it $450 per panel in a 10 kWp turnkey system. Still way less than those "$5000". Do you want it gold-plated or what?

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    19. Re:And now why this can not be done in the USofA by haruchai · · Score: 2

      There are lots of people who can do that and all you need is decent credit & the ability to sign your name

      http://www.zdnet.com/article/9...

      http://www.forbes.com/sites/la...

      http://www.forbes.com/sites/uc...

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  2. electricity only by gl4ss · · Score: 5, Interesting

    or did they go all electric cars and boats too and start cooking on electric? they had a good rainfall.

    with this reasoning norway has been 100%+ renewables for a loong time(they generate more renewable energy than they use, and export the rest). sure, they do export fossil fuels too..

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  3. Electric pumps for when it's not raining by stud9920 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now, they only need to install electric pumps for when it's not raining, and they're 100% renewable forever!

    1. Re:Electric pumps for when it's not raining by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Informative

      Now, they only need to install electric pumps for when it's not raining, and they're 100% renewable forever!

      The jokes on you as the US already does this. The Bath County Pumped Storage Station at a capacity of 3GW is the largest pumped storage station in the world.

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  4. Big Deal by AftanGustur · · Score: 4, Informative
    Iceland has been doing this since 1921 when the fist hydroelectric power plant was put in service.

    That is about 9500 days Iceland has Powered Itself Using Only Renewable Energy.

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  5. Norway more or less does that too by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Informative

    A bit over 99% of the electricity generated in Norway is from hydro plants, because it has a ton of hydro resources.

  6. Re:Good / Bad by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Funny I've lived there for over 25 years and never, ever had my car searched. Sure I've been pulled over for speeding. I've also been stopped twice at a road-block aimed at catching intoxicated drivers (like they have almost everywhere in the world including the "free" US). I've been stopped once and asked to provide ID and later learned on the news that there had been a pretty violent crime in my neighborhood. But just stopped to be searched for the hell of it? Never.

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  7. Meh by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Quebec, with 8.2 million people, goes 365 days on hydro all the time.

    1. Re:Meh by cdrudge · · Score: 3, Informative

      Right, you guys use hydro 365 days of the year. But not exclusively hydro generated electricity. There are several fossil fuel power plants, several dozen off-grid diesel plans, more than few wind farms, and a couple of biomass.

  8. Re:What a stupid piece. by popo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well to be fair, there is a certain irony about calling the energy "renewable" when it couldn't be sustained.

    Still, it's an impressive accomplishment that they pulled it off as long as they did. It should be noted though that:

    1) It's not replicable everywhere at any time.
    2) Costa Rica doesn't have particularly demanding energy needs (as the "stupid" guy above pointed out).

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  9. Hoover: flooded 100 miles, 0.01% of energy needed by raymorris · · Score: 2

    You said "look at Hoover Dam". Okay, I'm looking. I see it's situated in a nice canyon, flooded 100 square miles, and provides less than 1/10,000th of our energy needs. If you go find another 10,000 nice deep canyons, we can flood 1,000,000 miles of land and be okay, until there's a drought.

    Since we don't actually have 10,000 canyons, you end up needing to flood basically the entire area between the Rocky Mountains and the Appalachians - I've done the math.

    Costa Rica has a population of a few million - think Houston and it's suburbs. They have a couple of dams, which is great when they get heavy rains. Their experience might be interesting to one or two American cities (the ones nearest Niagara Falls, specifically) ; it's nothing like powering the entire United States.

  10. Re:Good / Bad by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unfortunately, Costa Rica still allows their police to search all cars at a checkpoint in the middle of the country so any feeling of freedom or closeness with nature is quickly soured.

    Gee, that sounds familiar, sort of like what the US currently does with its border checkpoints that are in the interior of the country, and not on the border.

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  11. Re:Hoover: flooded 100 miles, 0.01% of energy need by houghi · · Score: 2

    OK, I think of Houston and it's suburbs. So why do I not see an article where it says that Houston and it Suburbs are 100% green over a 3 month period.

    And do not look ONLY at dams, look at a combination of different sources. Solar, water, wind, reduction in usage by i.e changing the way buildings are made, people and goods are transported and a lot of other things.

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  12. Re:Good / Bad by OzPeter · · Score: 2

    In the U.S. the supreme court allows mandatory checkpoints only because they are pre-published where the driver has the ability to be informed and can take a different route.

    There is also the fact that the US government defines the "border" as including 100 mile in from the physical border and can pretty well do what it likes in that zone. This "border" conveniently includes where the majority of the population lives. Are You Living in the Government's "Border" Zone?

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  13. Re:What a stupid piece. by Sique · · Score: 5, Informative
    It is renewable as the next period of heavy rainfall will fill up the storage lakes again - thus the energy reserves are renewed.

    You can still deplete your supply of renewables by using more than the refill rate - at least temporarily.

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  14. mountains, canyons, droughts. Combination yes by raymorris · · Score: 2

    >. So why do I not see an article where it says that Houston and it Suburbs are 100% green over a 3 month period.

    Houston doesn't happen to be located beneath a mountain range, where it would get a nice flow of water coming in during the rainy season. Houston also chooses to have affordable electricity available year round. Steady, affordable energy is directly related to all the jobs which Californians are moving to Houston for.

    Houston also doesn't happen to have the volcanic fault line that Costa Rica uses for geothermal - less than 1% of locations on earth have that. California does have geothermal potential, the rest of the US does not.

    You're spot on about the combination. The US has a couple of places suitable for geothermal, a couple for hydro, etc. If you do the research and the arithmetic, you find that renewables can make a significant impact - 11% to 13% of our total energy needs. That's significant. For the rest, we have the choice of natural gas and other petroleum, or nuclear. At least until we develop some Star Trek quantum generator.

  15. Re:What a stupid piece. by GoddersUK · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Renewable" means no finite resource was expended to generate the energy in question

    The second law of thermodynamics begs to differ.

    /pedantry

  16. Re:What a stupid piece. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Notice how the largest renewable source, hydro, counts as green energy when it suits the enviros, but is anathema the rest of the time.

  17. We should stop using the word renewable by rossdee · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We should stop using the word renewable for energy like solar wind and hydro. Its not theoretically renewable, but thats not the point. The point is that they don't emit CO2 into the atmosphere, and thats the thing that is going to screw up the climate.
    So we should be using the term Non-Carbon-Emitting energy sources. We could even use the acronym NCE but its probably already in use in some other field.

    1. Re:We should stop using the word renewable by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The problem being that nuclear power is also Non-Carbon-Emitting.

      And the people who favour solar, wind, and hydro often have a pathological fear of nuclear....

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  18. Re:What a stupid piece. by BlackSWE · · Score: 2

    "The second law of thermodynamics states that in a natural thermodynamic process, there is an increase in the sum of the entropies of the participating systems." So how does it beg to differ in terms of a hydro electric power and renewable resources? I quite like pedantry. It opens the eyes of the ignorant. :D

  19. Re:What a stupid piece. by Jax+Omen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Being good friends with a couple guys from Costa Rica... they're some of the happiest people I know online.

    And they're developed *enough*... They have nice computers and phones, they eat well, they make enough money to get by.

    Happiness really is everything.

  20. Re:What a stupid piece. by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2

    There's a reason why we have both the words "renewable" and "sustainable" - they do not mean the same thing.

    Costa Rica will get more rain, which will "renew" the reservoirs behind the hydro dams. It's not raining 100% of the time, and the hydro dams release more volume of water than the rain provides in the same unit time, so it's not completely sustainable. But it is still a renewable resource.

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  21. Re:What a stupid piece. by SydShamino · · Score: 2

    I'm pretty certain that's redundant, as all "renewable" sources have "unpredictable" problems, except tidal.
      - Hydro - dry spell, loss of snow pack
      - Solar (PV & other) - oops clouds
      - Wind - still day

    "unpredictable" is the nature of renewable sources, which is why other baseline or backup sources (such as safer nuclear) remain vital as we figure out how to move away from fossils

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  22. Re:What a stupid piece. by torkus · · Score: 2

    Fossil fuels are also a renewable energy source by that logic.

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  23. Re:What a stupid piece. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

    Not in the lifetime of our civilization, though. (We could also wait for the next supernova to suck up some uranium, but that wouldn't be practical either.)

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  24. Costa Rica by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 4, Informative

    I lived in Costa Rica for a couple years, most recently about eight months ago. They have a phrase, "pura vida" which could maybe be translated as "the good life", but it's used as a greeting and farewell phrase as well. It's also used as an answer to, "How are you doing?" On the one hand, it seems remarkable that they would be happier than anyone else; broadly speaking I expect people to have the same general experiences anywhere. On the other hand, I spent a few months in Panama and then returned to CR for a holiday, and when I picked up a pizza that I had ordered, the guy said "Have a nice day," that is, "pura vida". And he meant it sincerely. At that moment, the difference in attitude was shocking; I had been used to Panamanians (although I prefer the sobriquet Panamaniacs :P) basically looking at me as a business opportunity at best.

    The average Costa Rican does not have a computer, although cell phones are relatively common. Computers are quite expensive, enough to make an import business profitable, but very few people can afford one. There is a 100% import duty on cars, so those are expensive too. They also do a license plate restriction on driving, at least in San Jose. Most have electricity and relatively clean water, although they do have an issue with dumping raw sewage into almost all of the rivers. I wish I could more effectively describe the impoverished living conditions; if you have any specific questions please feel free to ask.

    On the other hand, people sure don't care about working hard there. My friends in San Jose tell me that the weekend starts on Thursday, and everyone including the boss is late on Fridays and Mondays. There were as I recall a couple clubs where you paid a $10 cover and drinks were free. If there was paperwork that needed to be processed by the government, let's just say the Vogons would be proud of the Tico bureaucracy. If you needed to have your car repaired by a certain date, the Ticos will of course be delighted to tell you that it will be ready then, but no amount of inducement or cajoling will actually make it ready by a given date. Things happen when they happen, and no one is in a hurry to get anything done or to go anywhere — they call it operating on "Tico time".

    However, all that said, I'm a little skeptical of the article. Most of Costa Rica is really rural, and I would be surprised if the national power grid actually extended to all corners of the country. I don't think that the average Tico really cares about environmentalism; to some degree it's a first world problem. The Costa Rican government on the other hand knows that the country basically has no industries; the farming isn't great and I believe tourism is the biggest part of the economy. Costa Rica doesn't have all that much to tour, either: there are no mayan or aztec ruins, and almost nothing in the way of indigenous culture. I heard something about painted oxcarts being a thing, but never saw one. Contrast with Panama's amazing diablo rojos (the buses or the costumes). So some while back they hit upon the idea to market themselves as a destination for "eco-tourism", which involves convincing the rest of the world that they have some sort of unique level of biodiversity. It may even be true. However, they really need to promote the image of being green and eco-friendly regardless of the truth.

    If I could make a decent living there it'd be hard not to go back, even though the world is full of things I have never seen before. Whether or not the Ticos are the happiest people, I think that I can safely say that happiness for me is two-for-one mango daiquiris at the Lazy Mon. Pura Vida!

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  25. Re:What a stupid piece. by riverat1 · · Score: 2

    That's true to some extent but not on human time scales. Much of the coal was laid down at a time when microorganisms hadn't yet figured out how to break down cellulose so it wasn't decaying to something that wouldn't become coal. That is no longer true.