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Why the Final Moments Inside a Cockpit Are Heard But Not Seen
jones_supa writes: There's no video footage from inside the cockpit of the Germanwings flight that left 150 people dead — nor is such footage recorded from any other commercial airline crash in recent years. Unlike many other vehicles operating with heightened safety concerns, airline cockpits don't come with video surveillance. The reason, in part, is that airline pilots and their unions have argued vigorously against what they see as an invasion of privacy that would not improve aviation safety. The long debate on whether airplane cockpits in the U.S. should be equipped with cameras dates back at least 15 years, when the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) first pushed regulators to require video monitoring following what the agency called "several accidents involving a lack of information regarding crewmember actions and the flight deck environment." The latest NTSB recommendation for a cockpit image system (PDF) came in January 2015. Should video streams captured inside the plane become a standard part of aviation safety measures?
A compromise could be the use of still photographs. Even with one photo per 10 seconds, it would give you a lot of extra information. As far as privacy, I would feel that the audio capture is a bigger invasion of privacy than a bunch of photographs.
An interesting note is that we do have cockpit video of the SpaceShipTwo disaster because no such union was involved, and it did seem to result in useful information. Still not sure which side of the issue I land on. I know I wouldn't want to be videotaped 24/7 at work.
Agreed, and this is already how the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) works, but it records for a lot longer (around 24 hours, IIRC). Personally, as a pilot I wouldn't mind a 24-hour circular video buffer that's stored on the airplane and not automatically archived unless there's an incident - in that situation, I'd wanna have as much data available as possible, as that improves the chance of preventing a future occurrence. Preferably not just a wide-angle lens inside of the cockpit, but also perhaps a closeup of the instrument panel so that indications displayed to pilots are clearly visible.
ATC operators are already being filmed left and right (in addition to voice recorded) when they're at their stations and the footage is archived as well, so why should pilots not be similarly scrutinized is beyond me.
Sorry, but you haven't understood at all how a suicidal person thinks. To me, what you said is just the regular wishful thinking bullshit from people who view themselves as superior white knights who can save the world.
I'll talk about myself. I've been suicidal for almost all my life. Some days, the idea to use a cutter to cut my carotids was like the idea to scratch an itch. It was just something natural I could do without thinking. I was not angry at myself, I was not angry at others, it's just that I didn't want to live another day. There were days when my first thought when I woke up was : "Shit, I have to suffer another day".
As a matter of fact, I still wish to die. The reason I don't kill myself is I don't want to hurt other people. My family and a few people who like me would sincerely be sadden with my death. Worse, some of them would feel guilt. I don't want that. I also have three cats and they need me. I can't abandon them. So I accept to suffer for those I love because my own suffering is less important than the suffering my death would cause. It's just a mathematical thing.
Can someone help me? No. The idea is even insulting. I certainly spent far more time thinking about life than you or anyone who would want to "help" me. You have nothing to teach me. So just shut the fuck up, you pretentious little twat.
Yes, there are people who are using suicide as a way to manipulate. Yes, there are people who are just fed up with humanity and who are ready to die just to get their revenge. Those you can "help" by giving them the attention they want, but I don't think that's the majority of people who are "truly" suicidal.
Since I'm in the autism spectrum you could say my case is a bit different, but from my experience I'd say the emotion is more or less the same for everyone. And that's what you don't seem to understand : being suicidal is an emotion and reason has nothing to do with it. It's like joy, sadness or love. You can't reason an emotion, no matter how hard you try. The best you can do is to manipulate... and that's not a nice thing to do.
we should also put camera's on computer programers to see if they are slacking off or picking their noses.
Camera camera camera. the benefits of surveilance are not a sufficient reason to overcome the pervasive invasiveness. pychologically were a private species.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Re-read your post and notice how you are hostile towards even the idea that others can attempt to help you (which has the unfortunate side effect of preventing you getting help). You think they don't understand and can't understand why you feel so low. At times you can't even explain it to yourself, you just know you wake up some days even struggling to find the will to do anything. On your worst days you can find yourself standing back at a railway station which you then realise is to give yourself long enough to talk yourself out of jumping to end it all. Even on your best days, you can sometimes find yourself wanting to make others laugh to try to cover up how your really feel and even use it to deny to even yourself you are so low and then you feel like you are being crushed by how low you feel inside.
... Its not, you just at the moment denying it to yourself.
You think I can't understand, you're wrong, I'm describing myself. I've lost count of the number of times I've thought about killing myself. Looking back I've now struggled with depression for over 35 years. The difference between us is less than you realise. Perhaps the only real difference that matters is that I've started to notice (and you need to notice) how we can deny it to even ourselves which has stopped us seeking enough help.
You're strong enough without ever realising it to not even really be afriad of even your own death, so is asking for help really beyond you?
The fact is the best psychologists have heard it all so many times before, nothing you say to them can really shock them any more and they can help you. At the very least they can give you an independent viewpoint to help you see and compare your thoughts with and so help you find a better way forward. And anyway, knowledge is power. The more you learn the more it can help you in all sorts of ways. You just have to take the next step to ask for help. The one's who deny its needed, (and will tell others that) are really trying to convince and deny it to themselves that its needed. Its all part of the denial. So many ways to deny it, but once you cut through the denial and realise you already have the strength to find help, it really can help you.
Plus as you say, as you are someone on the autism spectrum, (that's something else we have in common) that means you've got the capacity and interest to study subjects in great detail. That's a strength, not a weakness. Also being different from most (not all) but most other people isn't wrong, even though you're heard it is wrong, so many times you can't even count it how many times you've been put down for standing out from the crowd. We are pack animals, we want to fit in and the one's who want to be the pack leaders, don't like it when we don't follow what they want the pack to do. They also don't like it when we speak about our interests, because then they are not the centre of attention. Like I say, knowledge really is power because the more you learn about psychology the more you'll see all sorts of behaviours from others, some of which from others that have caused you great harm in your life. (For example, the one's who want attention, want to be different, so they can stand out and don't like you naturally standing out from the pack. The irony is they want what you've always had. Remember that the next time some tries to put you down for standing out through no fault of your own). This is just a small glimpse of what psychology can show you and many will try to deny it, because they fear, hide or simply deny it for so many reasons. Learn to see the reasons and its amazing what it'll show you over time. You can get help and it will really help you.
If it is a privacy issue, why not have the video footage be stored is a separate memory card that can be flushed from the cockpit of the plane once it lands. Flushing would be locked out until the plane is stationary. The exit checklist for the pilot would include entering a code that would flush the video of the flight cockpit after landing. Let it be two codes, one that locks out the flushing ability, and another that flushes it. In the case of a hijacking he can enter the former and the response to the console would be identical in either case.