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Chrome 42 Launches With Push Notifications

An anonymous reader writes: Google today launched Chrome 42 for Windows, Mac, and Linux with new developer tools. Chrome 42 offers two new APIs (Push API and Notifications API) that together allow sites to send notifications to their users even after the given page is closed. While this can be quite an intrusive feature for a browser, Google promises the users have to first grant explicit permission before they receive such a message.

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  1. After all the problems with popups... by danomac · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So after all the problems with malware-ridden popups and other unwanted crap Google gives us this?

    Sure, there's no way it's going to get abused. Or cracked.

    1. Re:After all the problems with popups... by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2

      So after all the problems with malware-ridden popups and other unwanted crap Google gives us this?

      Does that really surprise you? How does Google make their money?

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  2. Why chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can't think of a single reason why I would use a browser with google's snooping technology baked right into it.

  3. Fuck No by sexconker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can we go back to the web being "Hey can I get your page at site.tld/page.ext ?" and "Sure, here is what you asked for, and not an entire cart of horseshit jammed in with it, alongside it, or after it! Thank you for visiting our website, valuable reader / customer!"?

    1. Re:Fuck No by KermodeBear · · Score: 2

      Can we also get rid of the fucking obnoxious TLDs? I learned that .today is a valid TLD. It's bullshit. There's so many TLDs that ICANN should just throw in the towel and say "Okay people, register whatever the hell you want." Either that or go back to a small set of TLDs that actually mean something as God intended.

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  4. Shades of Marimba by pthisis · · Score: 2

    Push technology was one of the hottest buzzwords going c. 1997-1998.

    http://news.cnet.com/Marimba-s...

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    1. Re:Shades of Marimba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Push technology was one of the hottest buzzwords going c. 1997-1998.

      http://news.cnet.com/Marimba-s...

      Remember the Pointcast network?

  5. A tale of woe for the poor user by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Funny

    Accidentally visit a pr0n site?
    Even after you leave
    And clear your browsing history
    Don't you be deceived

    You give your presentation
    On the conference room screen
    Up pops a message
    "More from the gay porn scene!!!"

    "You're into coprophagia"
    "Here's some more new sh*t!"
    "Wow, your wife gives you anal"
    "With her strap-on dick?"

    "We need some more nude photos"
    "Like you sent us the last time."
    "Need more bestiality?"
    "We've got it all on line"

    You claim your innocence
    And protest "It's not mine!"
    But you still end up
    In the unemployment line.

    Burma Shave "Come back to our

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  6. Re:Another? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What "crap" are we talking about here?

    Chrome didn't make Mozilla botch the switch to more frequent releases of Firefox. Mozilla did that on its own.

    Chrome didn't make Mozilla ruin Firefox's UI. Mozilla did that on its own.

    Chrome didn't prevent Mozilla from finally fixing Firefox's long-standing memory leaks and poor performance. Mozilla has avoided those fixes on their own.

    Chrome didn't even cause Firefox's market share to drop from around 35% to 10%. Mozilla caused that by itself, by shitting upon Firefox users over and over again.

    Chrome didn't cause Mozilla to spin its wheels with useless, unwanted shit like Firefox OS, Persona, asm.js, and all of their other failed projects. Mozilla did that on its own.

    Mozilla has royally fucked up time and time again. Chrome didn't cause them to fuck up like that. Mozilla did it on their own.

  7. I Closed the Frikkin' Page for a Reason! by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh great, so if I stumble on a page so full of crap that I decide to backtrack the hell away, the site can still shove notifications in my face, even though I clearly don't want that content? Yeah, I have to explicitly allow it, that's awfully nice of them. But how long will opting out last when the advertisers realize they can force a few more eyeballs? Is there another browser out there that hasn't been bloated to death with "features"? I jumped from Firefox to Chrome when they started churning versions, but Chrome just jumped the shark by doing the same thing.

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  8. Re:Another? by sd4f · · Score: 2

    And that's why I use neither firefox nor chrome (and definitely not IE). It's really annoying that selecting a browser is no longer getting one which is the best, but rather picking the one which is the least worst of the lot. For a long time I was a firefox user, but after Australis, that just did it for me, but what I replaced it with, has big problems too, but at least the UI is easy enough to use.

  9. Re:and I promise by sd4f · · Score: 2

    Youtube is the only google product I use.

  10. Actually, it's worse than that. by Rob+from+RPI · · Score: 4, Informative

    Java is Broken in Chrome 42. Totally. There is no way to run Java in the browser, at all. In any way.

    Trying to run any Java app results in this: http://i.imgur.com/Imuxmay.png

    There's a ticket open here:
    https://code.google.com/p/chro...

    1. Re:Actually, it's worse than that. by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 5, Informative

      It was a design decision to improve browser security (NPAPI model is horribly outdated). Almost no one uses Java on the web any more so it was decided it was acceptable. Oracle is free to port Java to NaCl or PPAPI if they want to continue supporting Chrome.

      Yeah it sucks for the small % of users who still want to use it, but it's necessary to move security forward.

    2. Re:Actually, it's worse than that. by Rob+from+RPI · · Score: 2

      Hmm, according to Chrome's on stats, 10% of people use Java. That's not 'almost no-one'.

    3. Re:Actually, it's worse than that. by Billly+Gates · · Score: 3, Informative

      Agreed, I wish Java would die a very horrible and torturous death. (very slowly)

      But I'm forced basically by state law in our organization to have it ready to use on most of our machines to run state tests.

      So until Pearson's idiot developers pull their head out of their asses and stop using it in all their education products I'm stuck with this crap.

      Alright

      First thing first grab a thick Windows Server 2008 or 2012 book from Microsoft Inside OUT and walk over to your system administrator and wack him on the back side of the head with it!

      Then proceed to open the chapter on creating Group Policy Objects? disable java in internet zone under internet options in the control panel. Then create another one to enable java scripting in the intranet zone and add Pearson's to this. DONE.

      It is negligence to run this on the web and any system administrator worth his salt under has it enabled for trusted zone sites or intranet sites. Safe, secure, and works with old crud.

      IE has it's advantages at work over Chrome. One of them is managing ancient insecure crud and this is where is it useful over Chrome.

  11. Circa 1995 by dmaul99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Way back in the day when Microsoft was unleashing IE onto the world, everybody howled that they were introducing new IE specific things for websites to be able to provide, eg ActiveX. Now it seems that google is doing the same thing with Chrome. In both cases the idea is to take ownership of the web...

    1. Re:Circa 1995 by msobkow · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, but you're not allowed to complain about Google on anything other than "privacy" issues. 'Cause, like, "do no evil" and all that.

      See, if you give away your attempt to dominate the world, you're automatically a "good" guy because you're not using it for profit (pay no attention to the ad push on every single thing you do, nor the tracking of your every action.)

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    2. Re:Circa 1995 by Lennie · · Score: 5, Informative

      Chrome ?

      These APIs have been created by organisations working together at the W3C.

      It was actually the person from AT&T which did the most work on getting Push API adopted by the W3C.

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  12. San Francisco started this crap. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The web was perfectly fine until the mid-2000s, when the San Francisco crowd got their hands all over it. It has been all down hill since then.

    I'd like to quote from a famous song, "We Built This City", by artists Jefferson Starship. This song captures the essence of what is wrong with the web today.

    Say you don't know me
    Or recognize my face
    Say you don't care who goes
    To that kind of place

    Knee deep in the hoopla
    Sinking in your fight
    Too many runaways
    Eating up the night

    Marconi plays the mambo
    Listen to the radio
    Don't you remember
    We built this city
    We built this city on rock and roll

    That sums up exactly what's wrong with Chrome, Firefox, and the web of today. When I look at Firefox or Chrome, I don't recognize their UIs any longer. They are difficult to use for anyone who isn't a rotten hipster. When I use Firefox and Chrome, I don't "recognize their face".

    Like this submission shows perfectly, both Chrome and Firefox are "knee deep in the hoopla". They're all about buzzwords like "push notifications" these days.

    Firefox is very clearly "sinking in its fight", with the "too many runaways" referring to the victims who have had to flee it and the awful changes that Mozilla has victimized the Firefox user community with.

    It's getting to the point where I don't even want to use the web any more. I just want to do dances like the mambo, or even listen to the radio.

    Someone always playing
    Corporation games
    Who cares they're always changing
    Corporation names

    We just want to dance here
    Someone stole the stage
    They call us irresponsible
    Write us off the page

    Marconi plays the mambo
    Listen to the radio
    Don't you remember
    We built this city
    We built this city on rock and roll

    That perfectly describes the games we see with Google, Mozilla, Opera and even Microsoft. The web today is all about corporate shenanigans. Just look at all of the talk recently about Microsoft and IE and Spartan and of that jazz. They're all playing "corporation games", indeed!

    While some of us just want to dance with the web like we used to, before it all went to hell, we have these browser vendors telling us that we need these push notifications and advertisements. They have written us off of the (web) page!

    It's just another Sunday
    In a tired old street
    Police have got the choke hold
    Oh, and we just lost the beat

    Who counts the money
    Underneath the bar
    Who rides the wrecking ball
    Into our guitars

    As normal people wanting to browse the web, we have lost the beat, thanks to the choke hold put on us by the browser vendors these days. It's all about the money, and anything having to do with the web that isn't about the money swiftly gets the wrecking ball.

    The web was once the greatest creation that humankind had ever managed to build. But as quickly as it arose, it was torn down by greed, avarice, and shitty browser user interfaces.

    And as those great musicians sang:

    Marconi plays the mambo
    Listen to the radio
    Don't you remember
    We built this city
    We built this city on rock and roll

    That's what we need to remember. We can't ever forget it.

    1. Re:San Francisco started this crap. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      "The web was once the greatest creation that humankind had ever managed to build."

      Wow, it's obvious you don't get out much.

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    2. Re:San Francisco started this crap. by Billly+Gates · · Score: 3, Funny

      The web is far from the most complex device ever built by humans. It's no more a single engineering project than the old landline telephone system was. Heck, if you're just looking for replicating the same thing over and over as THE measure of complexity, look at any large city. The space shuttle was far more complex.

      Apparently you haven't read the W3C on HTML5 and CSS 3 specs :-)

    3. Re:San Francisco started this crap. by circletimessquare · · Score: 3

      I'd like to quote from a famous song, "We Built This City", by artists Jefferson Starship.

      troll level:

      9000

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  13. Re:Grats, Google, you've violated Cdn Constitution by pla · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does your iPhone violate Canadian law as well? It too has push notifications.

    Make no mistake, I will disable or somehow block this "feature". But seriously - You can't really whine too loudly over your favorite free and not-default-on-any-platform program suddenly including a feature you don't like.

  14. Re:Grats, Google, you've violated Cdn Constitution by narcc · · Score: 2

    But they will. Look at all the impotent whining above over an insignificant change made to Firefox more than a year ago.

    People will cry, and cry loudly, over any stupid little thing.

  15. How about a working middle button? by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Lately the middle button in Chrome has been deprecated, and it doesn't do what it says on the tin. Sometimes I middle-click on something and the page just begins scrolling, for example Youtube videos (even when not yet loaded!) especially in G+, which is a place you especially don't want to scroll accidentally. Also, image galleries which are probably hosted by google are just coming up as a slideshow in the current tab instead of opening a new tab. Google reserves the right to change the behavior of Chrome only for their sites, and up yours.

    I wouldn't use Chrome at all, but some Google sites sometimes only work properly in it. Youtube is the primary example. Sometimes a given resolution will choke in Firefox, sometimes in Chrome, and there's no apparent rhyme or reason to it.

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  16. Re:Another? by jonwil · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I use SeaMonkey which is the descendent of the old Mozilla suite.
    Its got all the same web engine stuff as Firefox does but it doesn't have the crappy UI or some of the other "unwanted" crap from Firefox.

  17. Push technology is for phones, not computers by Akaihiryuu · · Score: 2

    Yes, push is great for mobile devices. Because you can close the application and put the device to sleep, and you can still get notifications. That said, even on my phone, the browser does not have this. Why would it? Push is for things like messaging programs, so you can get messages without keeping the device awake and using battery. For computers? Not a chance. There is ZERO reason to have this on desktop PC's even for things like IM programs.

  18. Re:Ooh yay, great! by dave420 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You are complaining that you have to turn something off which is disabled by default. You just told everyone you prefer being upset to being well-informed, and that is not very becoming.