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George Lucas Building Low-Income Housing Next Door To Millionaires

BarbaraHudson writes His neighbors wouldn't let him build a film studio on his land, so George Lucas is retaliating in a way that only the cream of Hollywood could — by building the largest affordable housing development in the area — and footing the entire $200 million bill, no government subsidies or grants. The complex of affordable housing, funded and designed by Lucas, would sit on 52 acres of land and provide homes to 224 low-income families, and there's very little his fellow Bay Area residents can do about it, because the land is zoned residential.

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  1. Well done! by Frivas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well done George! if you have the money, and you can help other people, specially poor people, just do it!

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    1. Re:Well done! by SydShamino · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Poorer people have to live everywhere, because the jobs they fill are everywhere.

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    2. Re:Well done! by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not really just about annoying the neighbours. If you stick all the poor people in the same neighbourhood, then all the poor kids will go to schools with poor kids, and all the rich kids will go to school with rich kids. Since schools are funded by property taxes, the poor kid schools always end up having less money. If you mix poor and rich kids in the same areas, and they attend the same schools, and benefit from the same property taxes, then things end up much more even. Instead of one school having everything, and another having nothing, you'd have all the schools with similar amounts of resources.

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    3. Re:Well done! by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      <sarcasticly>But what about all those wealthy people, having low income houses will lower their property values and they will be less rich!</sarcasticly>

      Part of the problem that we have is the physical separation of the Rich and Poor.
      Poor people can learn a lot from rich people. As well rich people can learn some sympathy with the poor people and realize how much of their success was actually given to them, or by blind luck.

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    4. Re:Well done! by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's a nice idea, but the reality is usually that the rich people just move away when the poor people come in (especially the ones with families). No way are rich daddy and trophy wife letting their little girl go to school with that rabble!

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    5. Re:Well done! by toadlife · · Score: 5, Informative

      In CA, the disparity in property taxes is not why some public schools have more money than other public schools. While there are some problems with how it is implemented, in CA, school funding is mandated to be equal, regardless of the local property tax revenues.

      The inequity comes in when you factor in private fundraising.

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    6. Re:Well done! by sycodon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The real irony is that his neighbors would probably be the first ones to support a tax and confiscating someone's land for low income housing ...as long as it wasn't their land or built close to them.

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    7. Re:Well done! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      George Lucas. He could use it for low-income housing.

    8. Re:Well done! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Pretty sure that's what happened at Columbine.

      Nope, that had nothing to do with Columbine. That entire high school zone is pretty much middle/upper-middle class, and neither Harris nor Klebold were from particularly poor families. What they were is high IQ kids (with less than average common sense) in a school system (Jeffco) not known for dealing well with gifted/talented students, the prevailing attitude being "we'll help out the less-capable kids, the smart ones can deal on their own". (There was also a significant pro-jock, anti-nerd bias.)

      I lived in and had a kid going to school (not high school) in the area when Columbine happened. There's a fair bit that never made it to the national media, because it upset various applecarts or was "too complicated" for the nightly news.

    9. Re:Well done! by Moridineas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're right about what happens, of course, but vastly over simplifying.

      I live in Raleigh, NC. My wife and I have two kids, one of whom will be starting kindergarten next year.

      The public school we were zoned for is ~75% African American and Hispanic. I'm ok with this, I grew up in the area and went to a "majority minority" school (though there were not many Hispanics in the area back then) as well. This school also has over 50% of the students who score lowly on the English proficiency charts. 60% of the students are on free lunch. The end of grade test scores are...abysmal. When visiting the school, the teachers were just overwhelmed with having to deal with so many non-English and other remedial students.

      I want my kids to be happy at school and get something positive out of it. I just could not see sending my kids to that school. This was a very hard decision, but we moved from our 150k house to a 250k house 8 miles north. The new school is still very diverse--about 35% African American and Hispanic, but has much better test scores, an actual PTA with engaged parents, etc.

      It's easy to criticize those 1%%er fat cats and their slutty wives, but really, everybody wants the best for their kid. You can't blame parents for doing whatever they can--moving, paying an arm and a leg for private school, etc--to help their children out. It's really just human nature.

    10. Re:Well done! by I4ko · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, as a legal H1 Expat from EU who came here on request of my company, and having heavily invested my in education, and basically spending and paying more in taxes than my American neighbors, and having to through thousands of hoops to get a green card and be able to live like a normal person I fully object against (especially low qualified) illegals given a parole. I'm sorry, but I can live in uncertainty, refrain from establishing long term relationships and such, because I may have to pack up and leave, but these guys can come and stay disregarding all the laws of this country? I think I can't agree with that. Same goes to most of the legal H1 Indians who after spending 30 minutes with them leave me completely confused on how they can possible have all the qualification that they claim. So, even I as being a legal foreigner, am for a much tighter control on the border. No one should be allowed to illegally pass the border and get away with it, and leave in complete disregard with the law and the "native" inhabitants of the land. At least they can learn English. And I'm sorry - but if you can't afford to raise a child, simple don't make it. It's not like they happen on their own.

  2. Re:Should be rezoned agricultural by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bah, just screen every scene involving Jar Jar Binks on a continuous loop on a 50' tall screen.

    That'll really piss them off.

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  3. pretty funny by argStyopa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As "fuck you"s go, that's about as morally commendable as it gets.

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  4. Missing one detail ... by techstar25 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The linked article leaves out one important detail. This isn't about retaliation... Marin County Supervisor Steve Kinsey told the station: 'George Lucas said, "if I’m not going to do what I wanted to do there, what can I do that would be really beneficial to this community?"

  5. Don't divide 200m by 224 by Cederic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't forget the houses need support infrastructure - roads, sewerage, utilities, but also 224 homes will need a community hall, a couple of shops, a decent pub, a medical centre and/or dentist and (given this is America) at least seven churches.

    Only a portion of the spend will go on houses.

  6. Re:Define "affordable" by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Funny

    In the Bay area anyone making under $350,000 is considered low income.

    It's so bad they have bread lines at Panera Bread stores.

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  7. Re:$200M for 224 homes? by KeithJM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is a decent chance the cost of the land is included, since he's providing it to this project as well. If you're putting together a press release proclaiming your good work (and I don't mean that as a criticism -- he definitely deserves the right to take credit for his work) you might as well make the numbers as complete as you can.

  8. Sounds like upper middle class housing development by drnb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At $200M for 224 homes it sounds like he is building an upper middle class housing development. This does not sound like habitat for humanity-like helping the poor.

  9. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This guy....everything he touches turns to shit.

    No, while his is sticking it up to his peers, the outcome is that 224 low income families will have affordable housing.
    Sometimes you do the right thing for the wrong reason. Kudos to Mr Lucas.

  10. Re:Define "affordable" by steelfood · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1) Nobody says the tenants are buying the homes.

    2) Nobody says Lucas is trying to recoup the costs of construction.

    3) The total cost per unit is probably much higher if you factor in the value of the land.

    FYI, low income housing is usually rentals. Many low income people have trouble saving for a down payment, much less get a loan from a bank, no matter how small the amount borrowed is.

    The main problem with cheap rentals is the building's maintenance costs. Government subsidies are used to help with that usually. If Lucas isn't willing to bleed in the long term, at best, he's going to have to price the rentals for middle income, working class people. Which may still constitute "low income" in that part of California.

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  11. Re:Not a revenge plot by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lucas claims this is not a revenge plot.

    Look, we know it can't be a plot.

    Lucas has demonstrated with the prequels that he doesn't understand 'plot'. ;-)

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  12. Re: Should be rezoned agricultural by cfalcon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    He didn't do it for the wrong reasons. For YEARS he tried to put a studio there, but they wouldn't budge, and insisted on the residential tag on his land. Finally, he said, ok, fine.

    So he could have capitulated- which would frankly be ludicrous- or find a way to actually be smart with it, which is what he did.

    This, by the way, is like the third coolest thing he's done, with Star Wars at 2 and 2+ billion to charity at 1.

  13. Re: Wow by hack++slash · · Score: 5, Funny

    If I had his money I'd be quickly scrambling to work out how to evade all authories on the entire planet, because I assume he'd want it back by any means?

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  14. Re:Old Folks Homes by linearZ · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure the first building he builds will be pretty good, with hype to boot.

    The second building will be the best one he ever builds.

    The third building will have Ewoks.

    I'd really hate to be the poor baster that ends up in a building after the third.

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