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Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Announces Bid For White House

seven of five writes: According to Reuters, "Former Hewlett-Packard Co Chief Executive Carly Fiorina announced on Monday she is running for president, becoming the only woman in the pack of Republican candidates for the White House in 2016. ... Fiorina registers near the bottom of polls of the dozen or so Republican hopefuls and has never held public office. But she has already attracted warm receptions at events in the early voting state of Iowa where she is positioning herself as a conservative, pro-business Republican highly critical of Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. Fiorina was forced by HP to resign in 2005 as the tech company struggled to digest Compaq after a $19 billion merger."

As part of her announcement, she said, "I think I'm the best person for the job because I understand how the economy actually works. I understand the world, who's in it, how the world works." I'm sure we'll soon begin hearing from all the HP employees, current and former, who have nothing but love for Carly F.

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  1. "The Ego" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Carly "The Ego" Fiorina.

    Her ego covers a land mass the size of Maine.

    1. Re:"The Ego" by pla · · Score: 5, Funny

      Whoah whoah whoah there!

      We use standard units around here, none of that "furlongs per fortnight" crap.

      You'll need to rephrase that in multiples of Rhode Island, please.

    2. Re:"The Ego" by bkmoore · · Score: 5, Funny

      Whoah whoah whoah there! We use standard units around here, none of that "furlongs per fortnight" crap...

      How many British Thermal Units per hour is she capable of performing when at peak capacity?
      For extra credit: What is the BTU/h per stone, i.e. specific power?
      Please show all unit conversions and penmanship counts.

    3. Re:"The Ego" by David_Hart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Carly "The Ego" Fiorina.

      Her ego covers a land mass the size of Maine.

      They had a short piece on her this morning on NPR. She was attacking Hilary Clinton on not having enough experience in leadership, etc. I found it quite amusing. Like or hate Hilary, she has way more government experience (for better or worse) in her little pinky than Carly Fiorina.

    4. Re:"The Ego" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      [L]ike or hate Hilary, she has way more government experience (for better or worse) in her little pinky than Carly Fiorina.

      That's not Fiorina's target demographic. In fact, they're the polar opposite. While Clinton has experience, it's all government experience (most of which is as a first lady). No doubt Fiorina will talk about how "government is broken" as her platform. It will take a "business leader" willing to make the "hard decisions" to make government "work for the people."

      All B.S. Bernie Sanders 2016!

    5. Re:"The Ego" by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The 'muh sexism!' cry is unnecessary, especially in this case. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison(!!), and others have also (credibly) been accused of having monster-sized egos...

      Seriously, when it comes to big egos, Scott McNealy (dude who used to run Sun Microsystems) had an ego large enough to carry it's own gravitational pull.

      You can be a CEO without having an ego large enough to require its own zip code... tons of examples out there (even deep within the Fortune 500), but you don't hear about them as much because they tend to focus on their work, not their public image.

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    6. Re:"The Ego" by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      She's also always wrong.

      This is the key issue. Some of the other candidates have demonstrated competence in executive management, and others have a legislative record, but it is unclear if they have the skill and talent to make a good president. What sets Carly apart is an unambiguous record of failure and incompetence in everything she has ever done.

    7. Re:"The Ego" by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Funny

      How big is her ego exactly? Can you express it in Donald Trumps? (The standard measure of ego size.)

      Wrong. The standard unit of ego is the microtrump. A full trump is way too big for any practical use. That would be like expressing the power of your lawnmower motor as 1.2e-34 solar outputs.

    8. Re: "The Ego" by Calavar · · Score: 4, Informative

      She was also a U.S. Senator for New York for eight years (i.e. Elected twice). But of course, that was also a job that she only got for being Bill Clinton's wife and not because she holds a law degree from Yale University, not because she was a professor of Law at the University of Arkansas, not because she was she was on the congressional legal advisory staff in the Watergate impeachment process, and not because she played an important role in organizing the Carter presidential campaign. Facts.

    9. Re:"The Ego" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Once upon a time HP was known as a technology innovator, in the years that Carly was in charge they became a maker of ink jet cartridges

      When they bought Compaq they had managed to roll up two of the mini and personal computing powerhouses (DEC had just been taken over by Compaq) and effectively shit-canned the technology that came with them and just leveraged the customer base. Compaq computers went from being leading edge innovators to clones and DEC ALPHA chips were intentionally slow-sold in favor of Itanium (they even refused to release Alpha benchmarks because they beat the tar out of HP Itanium Superdome systems)

      So, there was a lot of MBA talk and attempts to score big in quarterly reports that effectively took the heart of of a tech leader (or really leaders) and stomped it to death in front of a horrified tech community

      That is why Carly is so beloved in /.

    10. Re:"The Ego" by happy_place · · Score: 5, Informative

      I worked for HP during the Carly experience. I've also always voted for the conservative candidate for President. If Carly gets the nomination I WILL change my vote to a different candidate. (Not a huge fan of Hillary either so maybe I'll just throw away my vote on 3rd party candidate... who knows).

      I never felt she dealt honestly with the employees of the company. During those times she orchestrated the destruction of the HP Way, never understanding or trusting it in the least. She had little to no understanding of the technological expertise in the company. She adored IBM's consulting firm which is why she pushed for the acquisition of such companies, and the touting of HP's "e-speak" technology. She simply didn't lead, she spouted buzzwords and followed popular trends, trying to glom onto anything that might be construed as cool/buzzworthy. Though no one in the company had ANY IDEA what it was or how to deploy it in any way. It was ridiculous, I once took a good week trying to figure that out and NO ONE understood what e-speak meant. She spouted the buzzwords ceaselessly. She got rid of company profit sharing and tried to push HP to follow a policy she admired from CISCO at the time of mandatory firing of the bottom 10% of employees in HP regardless of the group. The summer before the Compaq acquisition, she convinced HP employees to donate their bonuses and vacation days back to the company on a voluntary basis so that there wouldn't need to be a lay off, then right prior to 9/11 (She sometimes liked to hide behind the market crashes of 9/11 but that's not the case, the crash occurred before that) she orchestrated the first lay off in HP history EVER. At the time we were told it would be for the welfare of the company and hit areas of the company that would need to be let go, then she promptly acquired Compaq and butchered both companies.

      I see her as fundamentally disingenuous. A macchievellian at heart who will do and say anything to appease her shareholders while disregarding all human cost. So in a way she's ideal for politics, but not my kind anymore. SO no thanks... I'll be voting for the other guy.

      Likewise, I know few employees who didn't feel betrayed by her. Hence they removed her from the board with her millions of bonuses and such to get her to go...

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    11. Re:"The Ego" by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So, there was a lot of MBA talk and attempts to score big in quarterly reports

      And this is the crux of the matter, the focus of scoring big in quarterly reports. This is not hand-waving, purely ideological complaints. When MBA professors mentions *this* as the biggest problem in American corporate culture (can your sense of irony for a second), then this is not idle shit talking.

      Business executives are graded per their deliveries at the next immediate quarter, not in their capacity to create long-term value. That is what a shareholder's economy is all about. And Fiorina is a great example of it.

    12. Re:"The Ego" by 31415926535897 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, it's hard to tell, so I propose that we burn her and find out exactly how many BTUs she contains.

    13. Re:"The Ego" by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Interesting

      And when individual companies do this, like, oh, HP, they pay the price. So, it may be a widespread problem, but it is self-correcting.

      While Carly was CEO, HP lost 65% of its market value. But she walked away with more than $100 Million. So how is that going to self correct?

  2. Carly... by adary · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Carly was such an awesome CEO that I left HP after a 12 years successful career. At least I don't live in Murica so I won't have to leave if she gets elected by mistake

    1. Re:Carly... by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Remember back in the 70's & 80's when HP was one of the top 10 companies in the world (including the then invincible Japanese) to work for?

    2. Re:Carly... by chuckinator · · Score: 4, Informative

      They spun out Agilent for that role into its own company, so it wasn't a sell off to someone else. I can't speak to the quality of the equipment, but I know they're one of the big shops for that market.

  3. LOL LOL OMG.. HAHAHAHA by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I think I'm the best person for the job because I understand how the economy actually works. I understand the world, who's in it, how the world works."

    Oh Carly.. setting yourself up for a stand up career?

    1. Re:LOL LOL OMG.. HAHAHAHA by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Funny

      She can see the economy from her house!

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    2. Re:LOL LOL OMG.. HAHAHAHA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Many people understand how it works. What I want to know is how it will be fixed.

      The economy already is fixed. That's the problem.

    3. Re:LOL LOL OMG.. HAHAHAHA by tompaulco · · Score: 4, Informative

      The country is 18 trillion dollars in debt.

      Being in debt is not so bad if you are making more money from the borrowed money than your debt service is costing you. The reason debt became an evil word is because most Americans use debt to buy things that they can't afford to buy outright and that decrease in value. Debt used to buy a house is not evil debt (although it hasn't paid off well in the last 10 years or so.) Debt used to pay for a vacation because you can't afford the vacation without making payments on it, is bad debt. Debt used to buy a car is bad debt unless you already had the money to pay cash for it and chose to invest that money in something that earns you more than the car loan interest rate.

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  4. All aboard the FAIL train by davydagger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This cycle's slate of republican canidates is so packed with FAIL is unbelievable. Most tollerable in the pack is....Rand Paul, who at least gets a handful of things right. But put her next to Ted "Obamacare for the internet" Cruz, and of course yet another member of the Bush family. Yes Jeb is looking to run in 2016.

    1. Re:All aboard the FAIL train by TWX · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Fiorina's biggest fault is that the thing she's best known for, the thing which built her reputation, is a failure. Clinton is more of a mixed bag. Her tenure as a Senator and as Secretary of State have no glaring failures that define her time in those roles. She has some scandal building lately, but I'm not really sure how much of that is scandal, and how much of that is mudslinging now that the next political season is brewing.

      I tend to stop paying attention to the media regarding political candidates once the campaigning begins, short of comparing their statements pre-candidacy with their statements after they've announced. Typically this is just to look for hypocracy as if a candidate is changing their platform simply to get elected then perhaps they should be passed over.

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    2. Re:All aboard the FAIL train by jandrese · · Score: 5, Funny

      Certainly you have heard of a place called Bengahzi? The Republican attack machine already considers it the worst attack on America since the War of Independence and according to them she personally orchestrated the attacks with help from Khaleid Sheik Mohammad and George Soros. They'll eventually get that report out of Congress saying exactly this if they try enough times.

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    3. Re:All aboard the FAIL train by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And Obama, Clinton .... all get a pass on this, because they say things that are untrue, that you actually believe. Do I need to list them for you or will you find out when the news reports it?

      And when above did I EVER say anything that you allege? In fact, the main reason that the Lewinsky scandal exploded was because Clinton lied. It's not the crime; it's the coverup that draws the press.

      Someone complained that they sent many reporters to Wasilla because of the "liberal" media. That's a distorted viewpoint. She was unknown. There were things to report. You know how many people were sent to Arizona for McCain or Delaware for Biden? Few if any because both them had served in the Senate for decades and were known to the press. Maybe they both have scandalous hidden skeletons but they may be better at hiding them than Palin.

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    4. Re:All aboard the FAIL train by chilenexus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Is a high approval rating all that hard to accomplish in a state full of do-it-yourselfers that want not much more than to be left alone? People get paid to live there, so it's the biggest welfare state we have without it being called welfare, meaning she didn't have much to do in order to run things. She still managed to get embroiled in misuse-of-power scandals, and she abandoned her cushy post on top of all that.

      Being a business-person is not an analog for being a politician, so I don't know why people keep pushing the idea that because someone is good at one, they'll be good at the other. After all, a good businessman is all about getting the most for themselves and being sure to do what is profitable, not what is right. Politics should be about serving the country, while business is about taking all they can. Would you trust a government run by AT&T or Comcast?

    5. Re:All aboard the FAIL train by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Informative

      Are you serious? The World is going to shit and she oversaw four years of our foreign policy. Russia is annexing parts of her neighbors,

      Yes because her being in her post for 4 years can reverse the 12 years of Putin rule and the undo decades of Ukranian-Russian tensions in Crimea. Yes, totally her fault on that one.

      ISIS is on the march

      Because the US removal of Saddam Hussein under Bush leaving a power vacuum which fomented and led to the rise of ISIS is completely Clinton's fault.

      China is bullying her neighbors

      I agree with you 100% that Hillary should do something to undo China's tendencies that they have had for decades.

      North Korea still has nuclear weapons

      Yes because she should have parachuted in James Bond style and erased their program which they had been building for decades especially after their first successful test while Bush was in office.

      Iran may yet obtain them, and she was one of the biggest cheerleaders for regime change in Libya. That's just her list of "accomplishments" as SecState; wanna talk about her time in the Senate? Two words: Iraq AUMF.

      So far your biggest complaint about Hillary is her lack of a time machine to change things that have been decades in the making and happened before her time as secretary.

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  5. Her HP For America platform by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    She's going to take this country away from the engineers and give it to the clueless executives who care about nothing beyond next quarter's numbers.

    But wait - this already happened!

  6. I slept with her in college. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    She kept shouting "UNACCEPTABLE" during it, and then finished on her own with some sort of power drill. It was the worst night of my life.

  7. Re:Real reason by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    She did fuck all WHILE she was a corporate executive, too.

    Why does the media take people like this seriously? I think the corporate media automatically fawns over a CEO. It doesn't matter that the CEO is a failure.

    She is also the postergirl for "failing upwards" and the fact that we don't have any meritocracy in this country. She doesn't deserve to be a manger at Arby's at this point, and she doesn't deserve respect. But still the Corporate media fawns.

  8. Oh yeah, sign me up by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 4, Funny

    Carly would probably lay off Congress and ship all their jobs to India, spend 13 trazillion dollars to buy Somalia, end all federal highway and other infrastructure funds; and drive the dollar down to 1$ == 12 slices of bread.

    1. Re:Oh yeah, sign me up by Jethro · · Score: 4, Funny

      > Carly would probably lay off Congress

      See, that I could actually get behind.

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  9. How does any candidate in 2015 by wiredog · · Score: 5, Informative

    fail to register all the related internet domains. Like, for instance carlyfiorna.org?

    Bonus: Demon Sheep!

  10. Re:The Only by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Treating sexes equally means that when a hack comes our way we judge her just like a man.

    Carly deserves nothing extra because she is a woman. She has been piss poor at every job she has ever taken and she is showing exactly the OPPOSITE in attitudes we need when we are at a time in history when we need some real (that is anti-corporate) action in government.

  11. Actually, it makes sense by bledri · · Score: 4, Funny

    In general the GOP wants to reduce the size of government. She was very successful at reducing the size of HP. Clearly she is the perfect choice.

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  12. Re:Mitt Romney Deux? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What socialism is going on? Really... I don't see it. Obamacare? It is a boon to private insurance. Obama is a corporatist, just like every president since Reagan.

    They can blame socialism for whatever problems we have, but it is a hollow argument.

  13. Re:Viable 3rd Party Candidate?! by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are various reasons Stallman couldn't make it as politician, but the most relevant one right now is that in the US we can't have candidates that can't be packaged like a product. Stallman is loud. He has long hair. He has mistakes on his record because he actually DID things. Worst, he doesn't believe the corporation should win in all circumstances, and that is a must for any candidate because ALL candidates, D or R, are pre-approved by corporations because of our out-of-control, free for all campaign financing.

    You want someone good in government? You are not going to get anyone good in the government when they have to look like someone from a University’s stock photography collection. You aren't going to get a good person who hasn't smoked dope or maybe hasn't had a depressive episode or two. You need someone who has worked in some clothes other than suit or a business dress. You need someone real. And this is NOT happening in the US right now.

  14. Re:Degree in Medieval History and Philosophy? by jythie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since human behavior has not changed all that much over time, medieval history is actually a really good starting place for analyzing modern political structures. It is not unusual to take test cases from hundreds of years ago (where we know the factors and outcomes) and plug them into models to see if they produce the expected results.

    Though on the whole it is kinda sad how little respect we have for specialization that does not feed into consumer culture.

  15. Nothing wrong with Socialism. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's funny how socialism has such a bad reputation in 'merica. It's automatically equated to "evil" Commmunism.

    Of the top 10 most prosperous countries, half are socialist countries. Norway, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, and Netherlands. Of the top 10 most happiest countries, the majority are socialist countries.

    It's funny how much happier people are when they don't have worry about things such as primary and university education, housing, health care, insurance, transportation, etc. It's also interesting how that correlates to a more productive society, making the country in general more prosperous.

    Denmark often ranks in the top 5 year after year on both lists. While they have a 60% income tax, the people still manage to have more money in their pocket than the typical American. Why? The costs of their necessities are ridiculously low because it's distributed amongst the entire population. Their net income is higher than a typical American who has to eat the high costs of living (for the typical American, almost 50% of your income goes immediately into housing [rent, mortgage, etc.], then tack on health insurance, car insurance, loan debt, etc.) While Americans are racking up quarter million dollar debts just to go to school, Danes get paid to get a Master's Degree at University. Or rather, they're getting their collective investment returned to them when they go to school.

    ACA is a good step forward. If everyone pays for health insurance, the costs will come down. You'd think fiscal conservatives would be all over that. Well, they were when Romney did it, but then suddenly were against it "just because."

  16. Depressing Shill by Carcass666 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    She was a regular on Meet the Press for a while, and she could always be counted on to parrot whatever talking points the American Enterprise Institute was distributing at the time. She always came across as an opportunist, trying to build her brand, with nary a thought of her own construction.

    People criticized Romney because he ran on his business record, and that record included the elimination of many American job. In fairness to Romney, though, his job at Bain was to save companies, not jobs, and in this he was successful. In Fiorina's case, she presided over a disastrous merger of Compaq, basically destroying that brand, as well as seriously damaging HP's; and in the process, opened the door for lesser players, like Dell, to successfully infiltrate the enterprise. Her utter failure as a business leader, coupled with a near lack of independent political philosophy, are easy pickings for her primary competitors. If she somehow does make it to a VP candidate, she will serve only to galvanize the liberal voting base to organize against a failed corporate wolf in false feminist sheep's clothing.

  17. Observations.... by erp_consultant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Carly has a specific role for the Republicans. Her job is to go after Hillary Clinton. If any of the male Republican candidates went after Hillary they would be accused of being "sexist" or some other form of "ist". Carly can get away with it because she is a woman. Sadly this is the world we live in.

    Fiorina is the official attack dog for the Presidential campaign. It matters not whether she makes it through the Republican primary. If she succeeds in weakening Clinton then her job is done.

    If Fiorina plays this right she might end up as the Vice Presidential nominee paired with whomever ends up winning the Republican nomination. These days, the VP ends up playing attack dog in the Presidential campaigns. The President is seen as being above the fray while his surrogates dish out all the dirty politics. Nobody will care about her failed HP ventures as a VP nominee. They will only see that she is a woman on the ticket and the Republicans will get points for that.

  18. Re:I do not get it. by dlleigh · · Score: 5, Informative

    She's not stupid at all. But she is a narcissist, which means that she actually believes that the world owes her admiration and greatness.

    Her brain works differently from yours, and the vast majority of the population. This is not an area of rational thought for her.

  19. Retracted by Event+Horizon · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's pretty disingenuous to post a link to a Slashdot story which in turn links to a retracted article and using it to suggest that HP employees thought poorly of her.

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  20. Actual facts about experience by sjbe · · Score: 4, Informative

    1) So did Palin (vs Obama) but that didn't stop the criticism there

    Kind of stupid to post things that are so easily refuted.

    Obama was a US Senator longer (3-Jan-2005 to 16-Nov-2008) that Palin was Governor of Alaska (4-Dec-2006 to 26-July-2009). Plus Obama was a member of the Illinois senate for 8 years. Palin was mayor of Wasilla (population 7,800) and served as Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Commission for less than a year. All other jobs held by either one were nothing on a national stage or significant enough to count as meaningful experience. So no, Palin did not at any time have more experience in public office than Obama.

    2) Most of Hilary's experience is being the wife of Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend

    You mean except for being a US Senator and Secretary of State?

    Given the choice between Hilary and Carly, I'd take Carly. Which isn't actually saying much. Personally, I can't stand either of them.

    Based on what? You clearly have your facts wrong so any opinions you might have based on your incorrect assertions are based on false premises.

    1. Re:Actual facts about experience by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Voting "present" if I recall was his biggest achievement in those years. Having no real accomplishments other than being elected is outstanding political work these days. It also is working for Hilary.

      Your penchant for posting factually untrue things is Palinesque. Obama's "present" votes represent 3% of his voting record.

      Of course, a lifetime of scandal should be enough to prevent her from running. At this point the DNC can't complain about anyone the GOP having "Scandals"

      Do I believe Hillary or Bill are the most trustworthy people? No. You, however, are willing to believe anything to justify your opinion. Even things that are not true.

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    2. Re:Actual facts about experience by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Informative

      it isn't the total, it is which legislation it involved. ;) Nice try though.

      First of all that is not what you posted in your other thread.

      Why didn't the reporters do the same thing with a Jr Senator from Illinois? Remember, he was just a couple years into his first term as Senator, voting "present" more often than anything else.

      Second, your complaint is that he voted "present" still implies that this was more important than the thousands of "yes" or "no" votes he cast. I would argue that was an important part of job was to cast votes.

      Having exposed your lie, now you want to switch it that so that he proposed no meaningful legislation. Seriously, can you use the internet?

      Washington Post says you're lying. The New York Times says it as well. Do you live in an alternate world where you just believe things which are not only untrue but easily verified to be untrue but believe them anyway?

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