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Researchers Make Spiders Produce Silk Strengthened With Graphene

An anonymous reader writes: Italian researchers in Trent have enabled 15 Pholcidae spiders to spin graphene-strengthened dragline silk just by spraying them with a solution containing carbon nanotubes and graphene flakes. The resulting fiber is as strong as Kevlar 49, and ranks among the most resilient and ductile in the world of manufacturing. But Emiliano Lepore's research has not succeeded in understanding by what process the spiders are able to incorporate the ambient materials into their webs. Since spider-farming is historically unproductive, the possibility of continuing the research on silk-worms has been presented.

59 comments

  1. Radiated perhaps? by fey000 · · Score: 0

    Did you get the spiders from Marvel?

    1. Re:Radiated perhaps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Peter Parker approves.

    2. Re:Radiated perhaps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, from Mars.

    3. Re:Radiated perhaps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ziggy Stardust, please call home.

    4. Re:Radiated perhaps? by Zeroko · · Score: 1

      Skitter would approve, too. Well, unless she thought someone was competing with her.

    5. Re:Radiated perhaps? by SpeedBump0619 · · Score: 1

      I don't know...This seems like some kind of alternate reality setup for the Venom creation story. *I'm* not wearing anything woven from this stuff is all I'm saying.

  2. Spider farming unproductive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have they tried incubating the spider eggs in childrens ears?

    1. Re:Spider farming unproductive? by LeadSongDog · · Score: 1

      Have they tried incubating the spider eggs in childrens ears?

      Couldn't, as they already had beans stored there.

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    2. Re:Spider farming unproductive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should try collecting quarters from behind children's ears.

  3. Hmm... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Aside from the overtly disconcerting possibilities of nanotechnology-augmented spiders; does it strike anyone else as a matter for some potential concern that at least some organisms are quite permeable indeed to novel carbon structures?

    1. Re:Hmm... by rgbatduke · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hmmm, I can think of a few places where strengthening with novel carbon structures would be quite welcome...

      rgb

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    2. Re:Hmm... by steelfood · · Score: 1

      Does it not get stiff enough for you anymore?

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    3. Re:Hmm... by wasteoid · · Score: 1

      I knew this would end up as a penis joke.

  4. Farming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spider farming is unproductive? Man, they should see one of the places I lived. Spiders everywhere!

  5. "Trento" not "Trent" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Italian researchers in Trent have enabled...

    1. Re:"Trento" not "Trent" by Skapare · · Score: 2

      Italian researchers have renamed Trent.

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      now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
    2. Re:"Trento" not "Trent" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Italian is like Spanish, the -o at the end makes it masculine, therefore discriminating against women working in STEM (Spiders, Tarantulas, Earthworms and Millipedes).

    3. Re:"Trento" not "Trent" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Americans/English don't call Munich München like the Germans (Deutsch) do. Same with Trent/Trento

  6. simpler solution by will_die · · Score: 1

    Grow bigger spiders.

    1. Re:simpler solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not a simpler solution. It's a simple proposal. How would you go about executing that proposal?

    2. Re:simpler solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Step 1: get largest spider (non-web-spinning) - sequence DNA
      Step 2: find related species of spider, but smaller - compare DNA
      Step 3: splice in various genes from the first spider into the second until you isolate the enlarging genes.
      Step 4: splice the same genes into the web-spinning spider of your choice
      Step 5: tweak parameters of previous steps until you get the desired result
      Step 6: hope that future generations (if any) will forgive me

    3. Re:simpler solution by Greyfox · · Score: 2

      Hmm, that would explain that message from the future I received the other day that simply read "OMG SPIDERS"

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    4. Re:simpler solution by GNious · · Score: 1

      Breed them in containers with much higher levels of oxygen...

    5. Re:simpler solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Thank you for outing yourself as a malevolent AI out to destroy humanity. No human being would wish for bigger spiders for any reason.

  7. Spelling error in summary? by goose-incarnated · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since spider-farming is historically unproductive

    That's a really odd way to spell "nightmare fuel".

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    1. Re:Spelling error in summary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Whoever claimed that spider-farming is historically unproductive probably hasn't read this fascinating and (to some) horrifying article. Check the Images showing the sheets of webbing being harvested.

    2. Re:Spelling error in summary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check the Images showing the sheets of webbing being harvested.

      No, I refuse.

    3. Re:Spelling error in summary? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      4am, time to milk the spiders in the dark.

  8. Greetings! by Laserfuzz · · Score: 4, Funny

    I,for one, welcome our new spider overlords.

    1. Re:Greetings! by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, spider overlords welcome you! Sorry.

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  9. i already have a spider farm by Skapare · · Score: 1

    it is located under my house and is very productive, year after year.

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  10. Up next... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A story about bitcoin or a short novella by reader Bennett

    1. Re:Up next... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he's frequent contributor and frequent maker, you illiterate pleb!

  11. Skin is very porous. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Skin appears solid and like a wall but in reality, it is very porous.

    You're likely just as permeable to small discrete carbon structures as those spiders.

    To put it more blatantly, nicotine patches work because nicotine is absorbed through the layers of skin. Thus anything the size of a nicotine molecule can find its way into your body. Similarly if you laid in a bath of alcohol for long enough, you could get drunk by the body absorbing alcohol through your skin.

    1. Re:Skin is very porous. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'd get drunk from the fumes first.

    2. Re:Skin is very porous. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

      Similarly if you laid in a bath of alcohol for long enough, you could get drunk by the body absorbing alcohol through your skin.

      Come on. Stop giving the college kids fresh ideas on how to get drunk. Enough already.

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    3. Re:Skin is very porous. by joaosantos · · Score: 1

      FTFY&H: Similarly if you laid in a bath of alcohol, with a oxygen mask, for long enough, you could get drunk by the body absorbing alcohol through your skin.

  12. Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All hail our new graphene augmented spider overlords!!!

  13. Watch your cat by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

    and dog, they may very well end up caught in the spider web!

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  14. Uh Oh by rossdee · · Score: 2

    Theres a B horror movie in here somewhere.

  15. likely hocus pocus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The data is so scattered and the scientist try so hard to make a point. Some increase and some decrease in strength. Selecting that data which fits the hypothesis is an easy task. Maybe only a random observation if not worse.
    Why should spiders build the material into the fiber and why should it make the spider silk stronger?

  16. The Stars My Destination by in10se · · Score: 1

    Space elevator, here we come... in a few hundred more years

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    1. Re:The Stars My Destination by belthize · · Score: 2

      And none too soon. We won't be able to get off the planet fast enough once it's overrun with genetically engineered super spiders.

    2. Re:The Stars My Destination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Space elevator, here we come... in a few hundred more years

      Just strap a few of those spiders outside a rocket and send it off to space. I'm sure they would sh*t enough web for a space elevator.

  17. I, for one... by Gaxx · · Score: 0

    ... welcome our new spider overlords.

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    1. Re:I, for one... by fisted · · Score: 1

      You're doing it wrong.

  18. Maybe they should try using sewer plants by random+coward · · Score: 1

    It seems that if you use a sewer treatment plant as a spider farm you will get much better results.

    1. Re:Maybe they should try using sewer plants by turp182 · · Score: 1

      Having been bitten by a brown recluse as a child, I find your link to be utterly terrifying.

      I can handle bees and wasps, I've been teaching my kids to be still when they are around. But spiders is where I draw the line and declare war. And I win.

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  19. Space elevator yet? by GPS+Pilot · · Score: 1

    But is it strong enough to build a space elevator? That is the killer app for high-tensile-strength materials.

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    1. Re: Space elevator yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a fundamental question that I ask every time someone mentions space elevators that no one has ever answered. If the counterweight in orbit keeps the "cable" taut, and being attached to the ground keeps the counterweight from flying off into space, how do you build it? Screw not having proper materials, this seems a chicken or the egg problem. Do you build it from the ground up? 20 some thousand miles high? How does it stay up until the counterweight is attatched? Do you launch a giant spool of cable into orbit and un spool it? Just kinda hoping it doesn't start to swing and cut a miles long swath of destruction. I can't even imagine the lightning that would be discharged from that thing. After traversing the entire depth of the atmosphere, jet stream, van Allen belts, etc. Building up massive amounts of static electricity. Then being grounded. Anyone with an understanding of this "technology" care to fill me in? Cause currently I just roll my eyes when I hear the term space elevator. I lump it in the same category as unicorns, cold fusion, alien anal probing, etc.

      Oh yeah, also, just to stay on topic, fuck spiders. Creepiest damn things on earth.

    2. Re: Space elevator yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You start from the center of mass location, which would be geosynchronous, and unreel in both directions. Solutions to static discharge on industrial scales already exists and is in use in places like plastic factories, or even vacuum compatible solutions like used with electric based space propulsion.

    3. Re: Space elevator yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been asking that same question for, well, however long space elevators have been discussed on this site and I have never gotten an answer other than "because carbon nanotubes is strong. Brawndo's got what plants crave." I always assumed that more intelligent people than me had thought this through, but it seemed a glaring flaw. Thank you for giving an educated response. Or any response at all. Still doesn't solve the problem of wind blowing the thing around in a wild destructive fashion until it's attached to the ground, but definitely the most intelligent answer I have received so far. Thanks.

      Don

  20. spider farming by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 1

    Since spider-farming is historically unproductive

    I think the adjectives "creepy" and "disturbing" come to mind long before "unproductive" when hearing of "spider farming".

  21. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now imagine a Beowu-- err, braided length of that!

  22. Not if you're a dwarf by xvan · · Score: 2

    Since spider-farming is historically unproductive,

    Not if you're a dwarf living in a fortress that somehow managed to capture a giant cave spider.

  23. Minty Floss by marciot · · Score: 1

    Spray them with mint and you get floss.

  24. Just imagine Gary Larson's take on that. by lurking_giant · · Score: 1

    From the far side Spiders on the slide..."If we pull this off... we eat like kings" http://i48.photobucket.com/alb...

  25. Spider-Man's new Nemesis.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is Graphene Fiber-Spider-Man!